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		<title>Harvard Medical School Dean: ObamaCare Will &#8220;Accelerate&#8221; Spending &amp; &#8220;Do Little To Improve Quality&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Dean, Jeffrey S. Flier, decimates the the fairytale from the Obama camp: (h/t Roger L. Simon)
Our health-care system suffers from problems of cost, access and quality, and needs major reform. Tax policy drives employment-based insurance; this begets overinsurance and drives costs upward while creating inequities for the unemployed and self-employed. A regulatory morass limits [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dean, Jeffrey S. Flier, <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704431804574539581994054014.html">decimates the</a> the fairytale from the Obama camp: (h/t <a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/11/18/the-dean-of-harvard-medical-school-destroys-obamacare-lets-hope/">Roger L. Simon</a>)</p>
<blockquote><p>Our health-care system suffers from problems of cost, access and quality, and needs major reform. Tax policy drives employment-based insurance; this begets overinsurance and drives costs upward while creating inequities for the unemployed and self-employed. A regulatory morass limits innovation. And deep flaws in Medicare and Medicaid drive spending without optimizing care.</p>
<p>Speeches and news reports can lead you to believe that proposed congressional legislation would tackle the problems of cost, access and quality. But that&#8217;s not true. The various bills do deal with access by expanding Medicaid and mandating subsidized insurance at substantial cost—and thus addresses an important social goal. However, there are no provisions to substantively control the growth of costs or raise the quality of care. So the overall effort will fail to qualify as reform. </p>
<p>In discussions with dozens of health-care leaders and economists, I find near unanimity of opinion that, whatever its shape, the final legislation that will emerge from Congress will markedly accelerate national health-care spending rather than restrain it. Likewise, nearly all agree that the legislation would do little or nothing to improve quality or change health-care’s dysfunctional delivery system. </p>
<div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:180%;">~~~</span></div>
<p>Ultimately, our capacity to innovate and develop new therapies would suffer most of all.</p></blockquote>
<p>Meanwhile, another <a href="http://townhall.com/columnists/DickMorrisandEileenMcGann/2009/11/18/obamas_health_care_plan_not_out_of_the_woods_yet">Harvard alumni weighs in</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Joseph Stubbs, President of the American College of Physicians &#8212; the second largest doctors&#8217; group in the country &#8212; confirms that &#8220;the supply of doctors just won&#8217;t be there&#8221; for the 30 million new patients Barack Obama wants to cover. Noting that the doctor shortage is &#8220;already a catastrophic crisis,&#8221; Stubbs said that underserved areas in the U.S. currently need almost 17,000 new primary care physicians even before Obama&#8217;s proposals are enacted.</p>
<p>In the meantime, according to Bloomberg News, a 2009 survey by Merritt Hawkins and Associates, a recruiting and research firm in Irving, Texas, found that &#8220;the average waiting time to see a family-medicine doctor in Boston &#8230; is 63 days, the most among the 15 cities&#8221; surveyed. By comparison, in Miami, it was only seven days.</p>
<p>The study noted that Boston&#8217;s longer wait was &#8220;driven in part by the health-care reform initiative&#8221; passed in 2006 in Massachusetts upon which the Obama program is modeled. Bloomberg reported that &#8220;as many as half of doctors in the state have closed their practices to new patients, forcing many of the newly insured to turn to emergency rooms for care.&#8221;  <span id="more-30670"></span></p>
<p>Alan Goroll, a professor at Harvard Medical School said that &#8220;the primary lesson of health-care reform in Massachusetts is that you can&#8217;t increase the number of insured unless you have a strong primary-care base in place to receive them. Without that foundation &#8230; Massachusetts has ended up with higher costs and people going to emergency rooms when they can&#8217;t find a doctor.&#8221;</p>
<p>And, a study by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid, part of the federal government&#8217;s Health and Human Services Department, found that expanding insurance coverage to an estimated 32 million people who now lack it would create a demand for medical services that &#8220;could be difficult to meet initially &#8230; and could lead to price-increases, cost-shifting, and-or changes in providers&#8217; willingness to treat patients with low-reimbursement health coverage.&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed, the report found that the Medicare cuts contained in the House-passed bill are likely to &#8220;prove so costly to hospitals and nursing homes that they could stop taking Medicare altogether.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Inconvenient Polls On Health Care and The War On Terror</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Couple inconvenient polls out that the Democrats will ignore and, in one case, the MSM ignores.  First, on the retarded decision by Obama and company to give our deadliest enemy the same constitutional protections afforded American citizens:
Two-thirds of Americans disagree with the Obama administration&#8217;s decision to try Khalid Sheik Mohammed in a civilian court [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple inconvenient polls out that the Democrats will ignore and, in one case, the MSM ignores.  First, on the retarded decision by Obama and company to give our deadliest enemy the same constitutional protections <a href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/16/cnn-poll-americans-want-ksm-tried-in-military-court/">afforded American citizens</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Two-thirds of Americans disagree with the Obama administration&#8217;s decision to try Khalid Sheik Mohammed in a civilian court rather than a military court, according to a new national poll.</p>
<p>But six in 10 people questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Monday say that the alleged mastermind of the 9/11 attacks should be tried in the United States, as the administration plans to do, rather than at a U.S. facility in another country.</p>
<p>The poll indicates that 64 percent believe Mohammed should be tried in military court, with 34 percent suggesting that he face trial in civilian court. Six in 10 people questioned say Mohammed should be tried stateside, with 37 percent calling for the trial to take place at a U.S. facility in another country.</p>
<p>&#8220;The decision to bring Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in front of a civilian court is universally unpopular &#8211; even a majority of Democrats and liberals say that he should be tried by military authorities,&#8221; says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. &#8220;Despite that, most Americans say that he will get a fair trial in the U.S.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Not sure what Holland&#8217;s point is here.  Of course he would get a fair trial, but the majority of respondents, in a CNN poll for gods sake, understand that giving this scumbag a <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704431804574537370665832850.html">civilian trial is ludicrous</a>:<span id="more-30645"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>Trying KSM in civilian court will be an intelligence bonanza for al Qaeda and the hostile nations that will view the U.S. intelligence methods and sources that such a trial will reveal. The proceedings will tie up judges for years on issues best left to the president and Congress.</p>
<p>Whether a jury ultimately convicts KSM and his fellows, or sentences them to death, is beside the point. The treatment of the 9/11 attacks as a criminal matter rather than as an act of war will cripple American efforts to fight terrorism. It is in effect a declaration that this nation is no longer at war.</p>
<div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:180%;">~~~</span></div>
<p>Prosecutors will be forced to reveal U.S. intelligence on KSM, the methods and sources for acquiring its information, and his relationships to fellow al Qaeda operatives. The information will enable al Qaeda to drop plans and personnel whose cover is blown. It will enable it to detect our means of intelligence-gathering, and to push forward into areas we know nothing about.</p>
<p>This is not hypothetical, as former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy has explained. During the 1993 World Trade Center bombing trial of Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman (aka the &#8220;blind Sheikh&#8221;), standard criminal trial rules required the government to turn over to the defendants a list of 200 possible co-conspirators.</p>
<p>In essence, this list was a sketch of American intelligence on al Qaeda. According to Mr. McCarthy, who tried the case, it was delivered to bin Laden in Sudan on a silver platter within days of its production as a court exhibit.</p>
<p>Bin Laden, who was on the list, could immediately see who was compromised. He also could start figuring out how American intelligence had learned its information and anticipate what our future moves were likely to be.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s crazy.  Simply crazy. </p>
<blockquote><p>Even more harmful to our national security will be the effect a civilian trial of KSM will have on the future conduct of intelligence officers and military personnel. Will they have to read al Qaeda terrorists their Miranda rights? Will they have to secure the &#8220;crime scene&#8221; under battlefield conditions? Will they have to take statements from nearby &#8220;witnesses&#8221;? Will they have to gather evidence and secure its chain of custody for transport all the way back to New York? All of this while intelligence officers and soldiers operate in a war zone, trying to stay alive, and working to complete their mission and get out without casualties.</p></blockquote>
<p>And the other poll is about ObamaCare.  Notice how the AP tries to <a href="http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2009/11/ap-buries-inconvenient-results-of.html">hide some inconvenient numbers</a> with a article entitled &#8220;AP POLL: Tax the rich to pay for health bill&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;what the Associated Press does not even mention in their story is probably the most relevant part:</p>
<blockquote><p>In general, do you support, oppose or neither support nor oppose the health care reform plans being discussed in Congress? (IF SUPPORT/OPPOSE Is that strongly support/oppose or somewhat support/oppose?</p></blockquote>
<p>To no surprise that&#8217;s opposed by 43-41%. Eleven percent neither support or oppose and 4% &#8220;don&#8217;t know.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also conveniently left out of their story is the response to whether people should be penalized if they do not buy the government-run health care: Sixty-four percent oppose. Why do you suppose that was left out?</p>
<p>Also left out was of the respondents, 37% are unemployed or retired. No wonder they want someone to pick up the tab.</p>
<p>Forty-two percent think they economy will get worse if this scam is shoved down our throats, while 28% think it will improve. Again, this is left out of the story.</p>
<p>Also, over the past five years, 86% of respondents said the care they received from physician or hospital was excellent or good, only 2% said it was poor. This was left out of the AP story. So why do we have to blow up the entire system?</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s a couple different polls on the two hot button issues of the day which Obama and company should take heed&#8230;.but won&#8217;t.  Now granted, the opinions of a thousand people cannot tell us accurately the sentiments of the entire country but when two liberal rags take a poll and the numbers go against the liberal position&#8230;.the liberals should take notice.</p>
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		<title>The Real Gitmo</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
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		<title>When Fear Takes Control [Reader Post]</title>
		<link>http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/11/12/when-fear-takes-control-reader-post/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Skookum</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Irrational fear is one of our most dangerous enemies. H1N1 is an irrational fear, every year the seasonal flu kills 40,000 people with challenged immune systems and H1N1 is a more benign flu than the seasonal flu; yet because of the Obama administration’s irresponsible hype over this flu, an unrealistic fear has become a form [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src='http://www.floppingaces.net/wp-content/gallery/reader-pictures/626-guidedhunts.jpg' alt='626-guidedhunts' class='ngg-singlepic ngg-none' Align="left" width="300" />Irrational fear is one of our most dangerous enemies. H1N1 is an irrational fear, every year the seasonal flu kills 40,000 people with challenged immune systems and H1N1 is a more benign flu than the seasonal flu; yet because of the Obama administration’s irresponsible hype over this flu, an unrealistic fear has become a form of national hysteria.</p>
<p>I saw irrational fear years ago with a friend, his name was Johnny or Barb Wire Johnny. He was one of the best horsemen, I’ve ever known. Johnny lived in the bush country of Northern British Columbia, he was an outfitter, trapper, and horse trainer. A small man with long black flowing hair that the most beautiful women in the world can only dream about. </p>
<p>With a gentle heart and calm steady hands he could make the best ranch horses, mountain horses, pack horses, and driving horses I have ever seen. For all his abilities, Johnny had his personal demons; like many in the North he was part native and possessed a weakness for alcohol, a common affliction in the North. He also had a taste for high venison, most of us ate moose and moose hardly ever spoils, but Johnny liked to hang his venison until it started to spoil. It caused him to have a permanent case of dysentery and Johnny never quite made the connection. Like many of the old timers, Johnny wore moose hide moccasins and leggins, in the winter he also wore a union suit beneath his moose hide clothes. That’s a pair of woolen long johns with a flap in the back for life’s necessaries. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, Johnny might be overtaken by his dietary problems at any moment, so he liked to stuff straw or hay in the back door of his union suit, just in case. Moose hide stretches and Johnny was always stretching his leather leggins from riding horses and stuffing the hind end with straw. It was funny to watch a little man with an oversized and sagging butt walking away, but I never said anything.</p>
<p>I was Johnny’s connection to the outside world, I would bring the whiskey, horses for training, and cash paying hunters. I lived on a ranch with a phone, a real advantage for a business man. There was usually at least a dozen people listening to every conversation, but it was a phone none the less. I helped him with the hooves, shoes, and teeth and he taught me of the mystical world of man and horse or the science of turning two critters into one, many of these lessons I use in my business to this day.  <span id="more-30448"></span></p>
<p>Johnny struggled for a long time trying to make spurs out of barb wire that would work with moccasins, no matter what he did he couldn’t get them to stay in place. I finally made a pair of spurs in the forge that would work for tiny moccasin’ed feet, he was so grateful it was touching. Little did he know, I would use his knowledge and techniques to build a business that would take me all over the world. </p>
<p>On a cold October day, I was bringing in a couple of hunters from the States along with several green colts for Johnny to train, when darkness overtook us. Traveling in the dark is risky business, it’s easy to lose an eye or run a snag through yourself or your horse, so we made camp about twelve miles from Johnny’s cabin. The temperature dropped to 30 below, and the hunters suffered from the cold; but I didn’t want the hunters to ride in the dark, there are just too many accidents waiting to happen. </p>
<p>We rode into the yard in the grey light of a snowy morning and heard screaming like someone was torturing Johnny in the cabin. I drew my rifle from the scabbard and jumped off my horse and hit the ground on the run. The cabin door was latched from the inside, I kicked it open while listening to Johnny screaming in agony. I stepped into Johnny’s cabin expecting to put rounds through one or more bad guys.</p>
<p>Johnny saw me and yelled, “shoot him Skook! Shoot him!”</p>
<p>I surveyed the scene in front of me, propped my rifle against the cabin wall, drew my knife and walked towards Johnny‘s bunk. </p>
<p>During the night the fire had gone out and Johnny’s moisture laden breath froze his beautiful black locks to the iron bedstead. While trapped by his own hair, Johnny let his imagination run away with him, he dreamed or envisioned the devil holding him down by the hair; consequently, he promised to give up drinking when he saw his departed mother praying for him over the tongue of the wagon.</p>
<p>I drew my knife through Johnny’s hair next to the iron rail, he jumped up and ran outside to collapse on the ice and snow in front of the two hunters who probably thought they had entered into an asylum. </p>
<p>I walked outside, knelt down and consoled Johnny, who was in his sweat soaked union suit and barefoot. “Skook, Skook you are the bravest man in the world. You threw down your rifle and took on the devil with your knife. There has never been a braver man than you.”</p>
<p>I smiled, all I had to do is let Johnny carry on with his delusion and I would be a legend in the Omineca Peace Region for hundreds of years. “No Johnny, the devil wasn’t in the cabin. Your hair was frozen to the iron rail on your bed.”</p>
<p>Johnny looked at me as if I were crazy. “I, I saw my mother on the tongue of the wagon praying for me.”</p>
<p>I shook my head, “No Johnny, it’s impossible to see your mother on the tongue of the wagon from your bed, that was your imagination.”</p>
<p>Johnny was slowly regaining his grasp of reality. “I swore if I could get loose from the devil, I would give up whiskey, but the devil didn’t really have me.”</p>
<p>“No Johnny, the devil wasn’t there,” I told him.</p>
<p>“Then I don’t have to give up drinking!”</p>
<p>I could see an advantage disappearing, I tried another direction, “it depends on how you look at it Johnny.”</p>
<p>Suddenly with an inner calm, Johnny asked, “did you bring the whiskey?”</p>
<p>I couldn’t lie, “yes, I have whiskey.”</p>
<p>“Good, I need a drink, you talk to those hunters while I get ready and then we will take them out for a hunt.”</p>
<p>Johnny’s hysteria is not much different from the hysteria over H1N1 or the Global Warming Hoax; Johnny was duped by his own imagination and was on the verge of believing anything during his delusion, especially if I had taken sadistic pleasure in perpetuating the delusion. </p>
<p>Americans are proving to be a gullible people, following the pied piper-like images of Al Gore and Obama. Their delusion and vivid imagination is being used to ensnare them into the belief that the government will save them from destruction and death, if only they will trust the good intentions of the Socialist State. Thus our lemming like public is being duped by the Obama administration. </p>
<p>A basic difference between me and the Obama administration is that I didn’t want to use a delusion to advance my own agenda.</p>
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		<title>US Beating Europe&#8230;..In Numbers Unemployed</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The left got what they wanted&#8230;.we&#8217;re like Europe now:
Unemployment is now higher in the U.S. than in Europe,  reports the Washington Post.  “The official U.S. unemployment rate, reported last Friday, now stands at 10.2 percent,” compared to “9.7 percent” in Europe.   This is the highest rate in more than 26 years, and marks a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The left got what they wanted&#8230;.we&#8217;re <a href="http://www.openmarket.org/2009/11/10/unemployment-skyrockets-us-now-beating-european-unemployment-rates/">like Europe now</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Unemployment is now <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/economy-watch/2009/11/us_now_beating_european_unempl.html">higher in the U.S. than in Europe</a>,  reports the <em>Washington Post</em>.  “The official U.S. unemployment rate, reported last Friday, now stands at 10.2 percent,” compared to “9.7 percent” in Europe.   This is the highest rate in <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-7812-DC-SCOTUS-Examiner%7Ey2009m10d2-Unemployment-rises-to-98-percent-a-26year-high-Obama-policies-worsen-unemployment-credit-crunch">more than</a> 26 years, and marks a huge change from the recent past, in which unemployment was double the American rate in much of Europe.</p>
<p>Unemployment is at 10 percent in France, which <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-7812-DC-SCOTUS-Examiner%7Ey2009m8d14-Recession-ends-in-France-without-massive-and-costly-USstyle-stimulus-package">refused to adopt a U.S.-style</a> stimulus package, and only 7.6 percent in Germany, which adopted a stimulus package that was smaller relative to its economy than ours was.  (Countries that <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-7812-DC-SCOTUS-Examiner%7Ey2009m8d14-Recession-ends-in-France-without-massive-and-costly-USstyle-stimulus-package">refused</a> to adopt big stimulus packages have <a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/83869/">fared better than</a> those that imitated President Obama. And the biggest-spending countries have <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203863204574347000967657192.html">suffered worst</a> in the recession.)</p>
<p>A “broader measure of U.S. unemployment,” including discouraged workers, puts U.S. <a href="http://www.infowars.com/broader-measure-of-u-s-unemployment-stands-at-17-5/">unemployment at 17.5 percent</a>, reports the <em>New York Times</em>. <span id="more-30373"></span></p>
<p>As the<em> Post</em> notes, “For many on the left, the lament for years has been: Why can’t America be more like Europe? Why can’t rustic Americans be more like sophisticated Europeans? The sentiment has resurfaced in recent months as the health-care debate has raged on — why can’t the American health-care system be more like Europe’s?”</p>
<p>Well, America is now more like Europe when it comes to unemployment.  But not when it comes to social benefits and protections.  The American Left knows how to import Europe’s failures, but not its successes.</p></blockquote>
<p>And the left is just pining for some more failure:</p>
<blockquote><p>The massive health-care bill <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-7812-DC-SCOTUS-Examiner%7Ey2009m11d8-House-passes-massive-healthcare-bill-Fort-Hood-shooter-prayed-with-911-hijackers-backed-terrorism">passed by the House</a> on Saturday is a classic example.  It would expand health care coverage somewhat, but not to European levels, and it would vastly <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-7812-DC-SCOTUS-Examiner%7Ey2009m8d31-Obama-healthcare-plan-shrinks-economy-drives-up-inflation-and-costs-and-reinforces-bad-status-quo">increase</a> the costs of our health care system, rather than reducing it to European levels.   It would also <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-7812-DC-SCOTUS-Examiner%7Ey2009m7d28-Obama-HealthCare-Plan-Will-Harm-People-With-Insurance-and-Raise-Taxes-Obama-Adviser-Says">increase</a> taxes to “<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703399204574505423751140690.html">European levels of taxation</a>.”  The health care bill contains politically-correct provisions that Europeans would never put up with, like pork for <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-7812-DC-SCOTUS-Examiner%7Ey2009m11d8-House-passes-massive-healthcare-bill-Fort-Hood-shooter-prayed-with-911-hijackers-backed-terrorism">trial lawyers</a> and <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-7812-DC-SCOTUS-Examiner%7Ey2009m8d18-Legal-experts-and-Civil-Rights-Commission-attack-Obama-healthcare-plan-as-unconstitutional">racial preferences</a>.  And restrictions on national competition in health insurance, which <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-7812-DC-SCOTUS-Examiner%7Ey2009m8d15-Obama-backs-costly-healthcare-status-quo-and-limits-on-choice-and-competition">do not exist</a> in Europe.</p>
<p>In France, doctors don’t need to be paid as much, because competing professions, like lawyers, are paid less.  French law is much more conservative than American law when it comes to lawsuits, including lawsuits against doctors.  There are <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-7812-DC-SCOTUS-Examiner%7Ey2009m10d15-New-Obama-healthcare-plan-relies-on-imaginary-savings-costs-2-trillion-explodes-budget-deficits">NO punitive damages</a>, and France discourages lawsuits by making unsuccessful plaintiffs pay the other side’s legal bills.  (Other European countries have <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-7812-DC-SCOTUS-Examiner%7Ey2009m10d15-New-Obama-healthcare-plan-relies-on-imaginary-savings-costs-2-trillion-explodes-budget-deficits">specialized health courts</a>, rather than American-style jury trials, to cut lawyers’ bills, speedily compensate the injured, and prevent American-style baseless lawsuits against doctors.)</p></blockquote>
<p>Come on lefties&#8230;..cheer away!</p>
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		<title>Pages, Costs, and Agencies Added To The Obama/Pelosi Health Care Behemoth</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom Blumer from BizzyBlog has updated his map of the ObamaCare/PelosiCare behemoth and what it creates.  Namely 111 agencies, regulators, committees, boards and offices: (click on picture to enlarge)

Meanwhile Senator Gregg reacts to the new CBO estimate:
Senator Judd Gregg (R-NH), ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee today commented on the Congressional Budget Office’s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Blumer from <a href="http://www.bizzyblog.com/2009/11/07/how-to-go-from-1200-to-2000-pages/">BizzyBlog</a> has updated his map of the ObamaCare/PelosiCare behemoth and what it creates.  Namely 111 agencies, regulators, committees, boards and offices: (click on picture to enlarge)</p>
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<p>Meanwhile Senator Gregg <a href="http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/07/cbo-new-house-health-bill-spending-estimate-3-trillion-over-10-years/">reacts to the new CBO estimate</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Senator Judd Gregg (R-NH), ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee today commented on the Congressional Budget Office’s (CBO) more detailed cost estimate of the manager’s amendment to the House health reform bill.</p>
<p>Senator Gregg stated, “The CBO estimate released last night finally sheds light on the smoke and mirrors game the majority has been playing with the cost of their health care reform proposal. Over the first 10 years, this legislation builds in gross new spending of $1.7 trillion – and most of the new spending doesn’t even start until 2014. Once that spending is fully phased in, the House Democratic bill rings up at more than $3 trillion over ten years.</p>
<p>“Additionally, this bill cuts critical Medicare and Medicaid funding by $628 billion, accounts for nearly $1.2 trillion in tax and fee increases and will explode the scope of government by putting the nation’s health care system in the hands of Washington bureaucrats. The $3 trillion price tag defies common sense – we simply cannot add all this new spending to the government rolls and claim to control the deficit. <span id="more-30261"></span></p>
<p>“If we continue to pile more and more debt on the next generation, they will never be able to get out from under it. The health care system needs reform, but this massive expansion of government, financed by our children and grandchildren, is the wrong way to proceed.”</p></blockquote>
<p>And listen&#8230;this is what our government believes will be the cost.  But look at programs our government has run historically and you find decades of added costs and overruns that our forced onto the taxpayer. </p>
<p>Insanity</p>
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		<title>New Poll: 53% Oppose ObamaCare</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Think the bluedog&#8217;s will be feeling some heat?
This from a CNN poll of all places:

Of course CNN spins away with this headline:
CNN Poll: Public wants Congress to keep working on health care
Puhlease&#8230;.
&#8230;only a quarter say those bills should be passed pretty much as is, with a third suggesting that Congress should make major changes. The [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think the bluedog&#8217;s will be feeling some heat?</p>
<p>This from a <a href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/06/cnn-poll-public-wants-congress-to-keep-working-on-health-care/">CNN poll of all places</a>:</p>
<p><center><img src='http://www.floppingaces.net/wp-content/gallery/curts-pictures/o-cnn.jpg' alt='o-cnn' class='ngg-singlepic ngg-none' /></center></p>
<p>Of course CNN spins away with this headline:</p>
<blockquote><p>CNN Poll: Public wants Congress to keep working on health care</p></blockquote>
<p>Puhlease&#8230;.<span id="more-30255"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;only a quarter say those bills should be passed pretty much as is, with a third suggesting that Congress should make major changes. The poll also indicates that one in four say lawmakers should start from scratch and 15 percent want Congress to stop all work on health care reform.</p>
<p>The survey&#8217;s release Friday morning comes one day before the full House of Representatives is expected to hold a floor vote on the Democrats health care reform bill.</p>
<p>&#8220;Most of the Democrats interviewed support some form of heath care reform, but the divisions within congressional Democrats are reflected in the party nationwide,&#8221; says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. &#8220;Forty percent of the Democratic rank and file want Congress to approve the proposals that have passed through committee with only minor changes. But an equal number of Democrats nationwide want Congress to make major changes to those proposals before approving them.&#8221;</p>
<div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:180%;">~~~</span></div>
<p>&#8220;Six in ten independents say they oppose Obama&#8217;s health care proposals,&#8221; says Holland. &#8220;That&#8217;s a nine point increase since October.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The Obama shine is fading fast and it won&#8217;t save his vision of a socialist utopia.  What a difference a year makes eh?  <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/05/AR2009110504334.html?hpid=opinionsbox1">Charles Krauthammer</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Sure, Election Day 2009 will scare moderate Democrats and make passage of Obamacare more difficult. Sure, it makes it easier for resurgent Republicans to raise money and recruit candidates for 2010. But the most important effect of Tuesday&#8217;s elections is historical. It demolishes the great realignment myth of 2008.</p>
<p>In the aftermath of last year&#8217;s Obama sweep, we heard endlessly about its fundamental, revolutionary, transformational nature. How it was ushering in an FDR-like realignment for the 21st century in which new demographics &#8212; most prominently, rising minorities and the young &#8212; would bury the GOP far into the future. One book proclaimed &#8220;The Death of Conservatism,&#8221; while the more modest merely predicted the terminal decline of the Republican Party into a regional party of the Deep South or a rump party of marginalized angry white men.</p>
<p>This was all ridiculous from the beginning. The &#8216;08 election was a historical anomaly. A uniquely charismatic candidate was running at a time of deep war weariness, with an intensely unpopular Republican president, against a politically incompetent opponent, amid the greatest financial collapse since the Great Depression. And still he won by only seven points.</p>
<p>Exactly a year later comes the empirical validation of that skepticism. Virginia &#8212; presumed harbinger of the new realignment, having gone Democratic in &#8216;08 for the first time in 44 years &#8212; went red again. With a vengeance. Barack Obama had carried it by six points. The Republican gubernatorial candidate won by 17 &#8212; a 23-point swing. New Jersey went from plus-15 Democratic in 2008 to minus-four in 2009. A 19-point swing.</p>
<div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:180%;">~~~</span></div>
<p>November &#8216;08 was one shot, one time, never to be replicated. Nor was November &#8216;09 a realignment. It was a return to the norm &#8212; and definitive confirmation that 2008 was one of the great flukes in American political history.</p>
<p>The irony of 2009 is that the anti-Democratic tide overshot the norm &#8212; deeply blue New Jersey, for example, elected a Republican governor for the first time in 12 years &#8212; because Democrats so thoroughly misread 2008 and the mandate they assumed it bestowed. Obama saw himself as anointed by a watershed victory to remake American life. Not letting the cup pass from his lips, he declared to Congress only five weeks after his swearing-in his &#8220;New Foundation&#8221; for America &#8212; from remaking the one-sixth of the American economy that is health care to massive government regulation of the economic lifeblood that is energy.</p>
<div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:180%;">~~~</span></div>
<p>&#8230;Just last month Gallup found that conservatives outnumber liberals by 2 to 1 (40 percent to 20 percent) and even outnumber moderates (at 36 percent). So on Tuesday, the &#8220;rump&#8221; rebelled. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>Socialist ObamaCare Getting No Where In The Senate Or The House</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man, the lefties must really be hating Liebeman nowadays:
“We’re trying to do too much at once,” Lieberman said. “To put this government-created insurance company on top of everything else is just asking for trouble for the taxpayers, for the premium payers and for the national debt. I don’t think we need it now.”…
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, the lefties must really be <a href="http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=971414C0-18FE-70B2-A8936672B3DDCB8E">hating Liebeman nowadays</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>“We’re trying to do too much at once,” Lieberman said. “To put this government-created insurance company on top of everything else is just asking for trouble for the taxpayers, for the premium payers and for the national debt. I don’t think we need it now.”…</p>
<p>Lieberman did say he’s “strongly inclined” to vote to proceed to the debate, but that he’ll ultimately vote to block a floor vote on the bill if it isn’t changed first…</p>
<p>“I can’t see a way in which I could vote for cloture on any bill that contained a creation of a government-operated-run insurance company,” Lieberman added. “It’s just asking for trouble – in the end, the taxpayers are going to pay and probably all people will have health insurance are going to see their premiums go up because there’s going to be cost shifting as there has been for Medicare and Medicaid.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Since that statement came out earlier today the Reid camp&#8230;or cheerleaders&#8230;.<a href="http://www.openleft.com/diary/15716/reid-brushes-off-liebermans-threat">have tried to spin it</a> so it doesn&#8217;t sound as bad as it really is.  I mean how can it be bad if Joe will vote to open floor debate on Reid&#8217;s bill?  Of course they are leaving out the other vote&#8230;the one that closes debate and moves the bill to a vote.  Joe says he will NOT vote for that if the public option is there.</p>
<p>Good for him.</p>
<p>RINO Snowe says she <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-10-27-snowe-healthcare_N.htm?csp=34">won&#8217;t vote for the public option either</a>&#8230;.at least today she is saying it: <span id="more-29842"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>Maine Sen. Olympia Snowe says she would vote with fellow Republicans to block the Democratic health care overhaul if changes are not made to the version Majority Leader Harry Reid outlined this week.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/10/27/obamacare-reids-public-option-gamble/">Karl at Hot Air</a> thinks all this is leading to is Reid being able to say &#8220;I tried&#8230;but the evil empire struck me down&#8221; to his leftist loons.</p>
<blockquote><p>Reid apparently does not have 60 votes lined up for the public option, though Reid thinks he will have them after the CBO scores it. This move was supposedly forced by the hardcore liberals in the Senate, though this could still be the kabuki by which Reid sheds responsibility for a later failure to include the public option. Either way, the ball is now in the moderates’ court.</p></blockquote>
<p>But there is <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=8927255">more trouble looming for Reid</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>U.S. Sen. Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark., said Tuesday she still can&#8217;t support a government-funded insurance option, a day after legislation was unveiled that would give states the choice of whether to participate in the program.</p>
<p>&#8220;Creating another government-funded option is not where we&#8217;re going. We don&#8217;t need to go there,&#8221; Lincoln told members of the Arkansas Farm Bureau during a video conference. &#8220;A government-funded option is something that I think is not the way to go.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>And Robert Laszewski at <a href="http://healthpolicyandmarket.blogspot.com/2009/10/public-option-is-back-in-playthat.html">Health Care Policy and Marketplace Review</a> doesn&#8217;t see 60 votes coming anytime soon and does a good job of describing why:</p>
<blockquote><p>Reid is reportedly going to include a robust Medicare-like public option with a state opt-out. That means there would be a federal Medicare-like public plan but that a state could opt out. Opting out would mean that both houses of a state&#8217;s legislature and its governor would have to agree to opt out. That’s a pretty high hurdle and it is not going to appease the moderate Democrats in the Senate, or any Republicans including Snowe, who oppose a robust public option.</p>
<p>We could have a public option only if a “trigger” occurs. That is Senator Snowe’s general idea. OK, define that trigger. Do you think for one moment a liberal’s definition of a trigger will come close to a moderate’s definition of a trigger? It is the last week in October and we’ve been hearing about a trigger for months. Have you seen a definition of it yet?</p>
<p>Then there is the possible course in the House—a public option that has to negotiate with providers just like a private health plan does—“arms’ length negotiations.” For liberals, how is that different than a co-op and its inability to gain any real kind of traction? For moderate Democrats, it will likely be seen as the “wolf in sheep’s clothes.” Maybe a place to compromise but hardly the robust government plan its proponents are looking for and there is no evidence that this idea will attract those moderate Senate Democrats that don’t like the public option.</p>
<p>Then there is the state opt-in. The idea is that both the state’s legislative branches and the governor would have to agree to opt-in. This could well win moderate Democratic support because very few states would do it and it is attractive to states&#8217; rights moderates who would like to see state experimentation. This is a possible place for compromise but hardly a robust public option.</p>
<p>As I have said many times before, there will not be a robust Medicare-like public option or any form of a thinly veiled Medicare-like public option.</p></blockquote>
<p>And the GOP has <a href="http://www.ajc.com/business/dem-moderates-challenge-reid-175099.html">found some a backbone</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>But before that issue can be joined on the Senate floor, Reid&#8217;s first challenge is to gain 60 votes — the number needed to overcome a filibuster by Republicans — just to bring the bill up, a parliamentary maneuver so routine that a vote is rarely required.</p>
<p>Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, announced that in this case, members of his party will treat it as though it were &#8220;a vote on the merits&#8221; of a bill he said would &#8220;cut Medicare, raise taxes and increase health insurance premiums.&#8221; <strong>He suggested Democrats could expect campaign commercials next year on the basis of the vote</strong>, and recalled that Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., was ridiculed in his 2004 presidential campaign for having once said he voted for a bill before he voted against it.</p></blockquote>
<p>For those leftist Democrats the threat means nothing because they were elected in strong leftist strongholds&#8230;.but the moderates?  I think this threat will be taken seriously and some idiot <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/10/27/public-option-by-any-other-name/">trying to change the name of &#8220;public option&#8221;</a> won&#8217;t help one iota.</p>
<p>All in all, its good news today.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is it with Democrats always denying who they are and what they&#8217;re peddling?  Liberalism has a negative stigma attached to it in conservative America; so Democrats now prefer you call them &#8220;progressives&#8221;.  The word &#8220;socialist&#8221; is the new &#8220;N&#8221; word, but it describes President Obama&#8217;s instinctual gravitations and political inclinations.  Why [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is it with Democrats always denying who they are and what they&#8217;re peddling?  Liberalism has a negative stigma attached to it <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/10/26/poll-more-americans-identify-themselves-as-conservative/">in conservative America</a>; so Democrats now prefer you call them &#8220;progressives&#8221;.  The word <a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/08/10/msnbc-anchor-socialist-becoming-new-n-word">&#8220;socialist&#8221; is the new &#8220;N&#8221; word</a>, but it describes President Obama&#8217;s instinctual gravitations and political inclinations.  Why deny it?  Why hide from the description?  Democrats who revel in communist/Marxist/socialist doctrine should come out of the closet and bask in the transparency of who they are.  Be proud!  Don&#8217;t hide!  Don&#8217;t obfuscate.  </p>
<p>Yet the reason they have an aversion to such &#8220;labels&#8221;, no matter how descriptively accurate, is because in order to sell any of their bill of goods to the American public, they have to engage in deception.  Can you say &#8220;stealth socialism&#8221;?</p>
<p>&#8220;Public option&#8221; is now politically damaged goods; so let&#8217;s give it a makeover, says Nancy Pelosi, even though <a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9BIUUF02&#038;show_article=1#">poop by any other name still smells like poop</a>:</p>
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<blockquote><p>A government-sponsored &#8220;public option&#8221; for health care lives, though it may be more attractive to skeptics if it goes by a different moniker, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Monday.</p>
<p>In an appearance at a Florida senior center, the Democratic leader referred to the so-called public option as &#8220;<strong>the consumer option</strong>.&#8221; Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., appeared by Pelosi&#8217;s side and used the term &#8220;<strong>competitive option</strong>.&#8221;</p>
<p>Both suggested new terminology might get them past any lingering doubts among the public—or consumers or competitors.</p>
<p>&#8220;You&#8217;ll hear everyone say, &#8216;There&#8217;s got to be a better name for this,&#8217;&#8221; Pelosi said. <strong>&#8220;When people think of the public option, public is being misrepresented, that this is being paid for with their public dollars.&#8221;</strong> </p></blockquote>
<p>?&#8230;..?&#8230;&#8230;?!</p>
<p>Ah yes, the <a href="http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell111705.asp">lure of the free lunch</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p> The speaker said the &#8220;competitive option&#8221; idea emerged during her closed-door roundtable at the Sunrise Senior Center with advocates of seniors and others who work with older populations. Wasserman Schultz suggested the term might be here to stay.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think she&#8217;s going to go up and test-drive it when she goes back to Washington,&#8221; Wasserman Schultz said. &#8220;It might stick.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for having the votes to pass such a measure, both women said a public option would survive. They wouldn&#8217;t get into numbers of congressional supporters, but said it was simply a matter of picking which type of public option to pursue. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>Another Study That Shows ObamaCare Will Ensure Cost Spiral Upward</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shocking!&#8230;.not:
The nation&#8217;s medical costs will keep spiraling upward even faster than they are now under Democratic legislation pending in the House, a report from government economic experts concluded Wednesday.
Republicans said the report is a warning sign that health care legislation is likely to fall short of President Barack Obama&#8217;s goal of &#8220;bending the cost curve&#8221; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091021/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_health_care_overhaul_costs">Shocking!</a>&#8230;.not:</p>
<blockquote><p>The nation&#8217;s medical costs will keep spiraling upward even faster than they are now under Democratic legislation pending in the House, a report from government economic experts concluded Wednesday.</p>
<p>Republicans said the report is a warning sign that health care legislation is likely to fall short of President Barack Obama&#8217;s goal of &#8220;bending the cost curve&#8221; by slowing torrid rates of medical inflation.</p>
<div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:180%;">~~~</span></div>
<p>Unlike previous estimates that have focused mainly on the legislation&#8217;s impact on the federal deficit, the actuaries&#8217; report looked at total costs, public and private, over the next 10 years. It found that the nation&#8217;s health care tab would increase somewhat more rapidly with the legislation than if nothing is done. The main reason: Newly insured people will seek medical care.</p>
<p>The nation&#8217;s health care tab, now at about $2.5 trillion annually, is projected to approach $4.7 trillion in 2019 without the legislation. <span id="more-29543"></span></p>
<p>With the legislation, national health care spending would be nearly $4.8 trillion in 2019.</p>
<p>Health care would account for 21.3 percent of the U.S. economy in 2019, slightly more than an estimated share of 20.8 percent of the economy if no bill passes. Economists have warned such increases are unsustainable.</p>
<p>&#8220;With the exception of the proposed reductions in Medicare &#8230; (the legislation) would not have a significant impact on future health care cost growth rates,&#8221; the report said. Moreover, it&#8217;s &#8220;doubtful&#8221; that proposed Medicare cuts will stay in place, the analysts concluded.</p>
<div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:180%;">~~~</span></div>
<p>It also cautioned that tens of millions of newly insured people could put a strain on the health care system.</p>
<p>&#8220;The additional demand for health services could be difficult to meet initially with existing health provider resources and could lead to price increases, cost-shifting and/or changes in providers&#8217; willingness to treat patients with low-reimbursement health coverage,&#8221; the analysts concluded.</p></blockquote>
<p>We all knew this to be the true months ago&#8230;well, those with common sense understood this.  This study is just <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/10/12/that-health-care-reform-will-actually-force-us-to-pay-more-for-insurance/">one more that shows</a> the exact same thing, that ObamaCare will in no way reduce the amount of money spent on health care and in fact will worsen the system, worsen the health care product, worsen the service, and worsen our economy.</p>
<p>The public understands this now so Obama and company actually <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/21/department-of-propaganda/">break the law to get it passed</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Senate Finance ranking member Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) is raising concerns that a Department of Health and Human Services Web site that urges visitors to send an e-mail to President Barack Obama praising his health care reform plan may violate rules against government-funded propaganda.</p>
<p>The Web page is accessed through a “state your support” button featured prominently on the HHS Web site and carries a disclaimer that the Web site is maintained by HHS.</p>
<p>In a letter sent to HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius Tuesday, Grassley warned that “any possible misuse of appropriated funds by the executive branch to engage in publicity or propaganda in support of an Administration priority is a matter that must be investigated and taken seriously,” noting that in 2005 <strong>Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) argued that “the use of official funds for similar activities were ‘underhanded tactics’ and that these tactics ‘are not worthy of our great democracy.’”</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s propaganda plain and simple.</p>
<p>But now Pelosi and the left think nothing of it.</p>
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		<title>The Obama Lie: ObamaCare Will Be Deficit Neutral&#8230;Dems Look To Pass 2nd Bill That Raises Medicare Fees</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Remember this?

Yeeeeeah:
Maneuvering to boost prospects for sweeping health care legislation, Senate Democrats hope first to win quick approval for a bill that grants doctors a $247 billion increase in Medicare fees over a decade but raises federal deficits in the process, officials said Wednesday.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember this?</p>
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<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091014/ap_on_go_co/us_doctor_dollars">Yeeeeeah</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Maneuvering to boost prospects for sweeping health care legislation, Senate Democrats hope first to win quick approval for a bill that grants doctors a $247 billion increase in Medicare fees over a decade but raises federal deficits in the process, officials said Wednesday.</p>
<p>By creating a two-bill approach, Democrats intend to claim the more comprehensive health care measure meets President Barack Obama’s conditions — that it will neither add to deficits nor exceed $900 billion in costs over 10 years.</p>
<p>If approved and signed into law, the legislation would avert a 21 percent reduction in Medicare fees paid to doctors that is scheduled to take effect in January as well as additional cuts in future years. <span id="more-29273"></span></p>
<div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:180%;">~~~</span></div>
<p>The bill to restore planned Medicare cuts for doctors was introduced without fanfare in the Senate on Tuesday and set aside for swift floor action next week, rather than sent to the Senate Finance Committee for hearings as would normally be the case.</p>
<div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:180%;">~~~</span></div>
<p>&#8230;the decision to move quickly and apart from the health care bill was made in consultation with the White House. House Democratic leaders were also involved in the discussions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Transparency my ass.</p>
<p>This is a blatant lie to the American citizen about the cost of ObamaCare because once you add this to the costs the pricetag moves up to 1.1 trillion, increasng the deficit.</p>
<p><a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/15/shell-games-in-the-senate-for-obamacare/">Ed Morrissey</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Interestingly and hardly coincidentally, this only came to light after the Finance Committee asked for CBO scoring on Baucus’ summary.</p>
<div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:180%;">~~~</span></div>
<p>There simply is no other interpretation possible.  Baucus submitted a summary with reimbursement rates he knew would be false to gain favorable CBO scoring, while his colleagues changed the reimbursement rates via legislative sleight-of-hand.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll say it again, transparency my ass.  Lying to the American public to get support for a bill is something the left would of went apes&#038;*t over if Bush had done it but with Obama in office Reid and company are helping him commit this lie.</p>
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		<title>The Huge Middle Class Tax Increase Coming Our Way With ObamaCare</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The former CBO director, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, warns today on the effect ObamaCare will have on our economy and health care.  These facts should be painfully obvious to those with even one iota of common sense.  This bill will lead to a huge middle class tax increase:
Remember when health-care reform was supposed to make [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The former CBO director, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704107204574471292249934348.html">warns today on the effect ObamaCare</a> will have on our economy and health care.  These facts should be painfully obvious to those with even one iota of common sense.  This bill will lead to a huge middle class tax increase:</p>
<blockquote><p>Remember when health-care reform was supposed to make life better for the middle class? That dream began to unravel this past summer when Congress proposed a bill that failed to include any competition-based reforms that would actually bend the curve of health-care costs. It fell apart completely when Democrats began papering over the gaping holes their plan would rip in the federal budget.</p>
<p>As it now stands, the plan proposed by Democrats and the Obama administration would not only fail to reduce the cost burden on middle-class families, it would make that burden significantly worse.  </p>
<div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:180%;">~~~</span></div>
<p>The bill creates a new health entitlement program that the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates will grow over the longer term at a rate of 8% annually, which is much faster than the growth rate of the economy or tax revenues. This is the same growth rate as the House bill that Sen. Kent Conrad (D., N.D.) deep-sixed by asking the CBO to tell the truth about its impact on health-care costs.</p>
<p>To avoid the fate of the House bill and achieve a veneer of fiscal sensibility, the Senate did three things: It omitted inconvenient truths, it promised that future Congresses will make tough choices to slow entitlement spending, and it dropped the hammer on the middle class. <span id="more-29266"></span></p>
<p>One inconvenient truth is the fact that Congress will not allow doctors to suffer a 24% cut in their Medicare reimbursements. Senate Democrats chose to ignore this reality and rely on the promise of a cut to make their bill add up. Taking note of this fact pushes the total cost of the bill well over $1 trillion and destroys any pretense of budget balance.</p>
<p>It is beyond fantastic to promise that future Congresses, for 10 straight years, will allow planned cuts in reimbursements to hospitals, other providers, and Medicare Advantage (thereby reducing the benefits of 25% of seniors in Medicare). The 1997 Balanced Budget Act pursued this strategy and successive Congresses steadily unwound its provisions. The very fact that this Congress is pursuing an expensive new entitlement belies the notion that members would be willing to cut existing ones. </p>
<p>Most astounding of all is what this Congress is willing to do to struggling middle-class families. The bill would impose nearly $400 billion in new taxes and fees. Nearly 90% of that burden will be shouldered by those making $200,000 or less.</p>
<p>It might not appear that way at first, because the dollars are collected via a 40% tax on sales by insurers of &#8220;Cadillac&#8221; policies, fees on health insurers, drug companies and device manufacturers, and an assortment of odds and ends.</p>
<p>But the economics are clear. These costs will be passed on to consumers by either directly raising insurance premiums, or by fueling higher health-care costs that inevitably lead to higher premiums. Consumers will pay the excise tax on high-cost plans. The Joint Committee on Taxation indicates that 87% of the burden would fall on Americans making less than $200,000, and more than half on those earning under $100,000.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s just incredible that anyone would believe the garbage coming out of Congress and Obama on this bill.  That somehow, someway, the cost of doing business by the health industry will increase by leaps and bounds but those added costs will not be passed on to the consumer.  Sure, the subsidies will help the lower income levels, but those subsidies will come from all the extra taxes the industry has to pay who will then tack on those extra costs to the consumer&#8230;.if not then the government will help pay, and where will that money come from?  Taxes?  Higher deficit?</p>
<p>And still the gullible fall for <a href="http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/the_senate_reform_fraud_PVp3TSIkA1O5pB9mY4W2aJ">&#8220;the free stuff&#8221;</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>As the CBO notes, his bill would cut Medicare payments to doctors by 25 percent in 2011, then hold them at that level perpetually. In other words, given inflation, Baucus proposes endless cuts in what the program pays physicians and others.</p>
<p>Assuming 3 percent annual inflation, by 2014 doctors’ real incomes from Medicare payments would be cut by a third from 2010. By 2025, they’d be cut in half.</p>
<p>If Baucus’ cuts actually go through, physicians’ willingness to see Medicare patients would dwindle alongside their pay. But if the cuts don’t actually get made, Baucus’ plan would explode the federal deficit.</p>
<p>Without the savings from Medicare and related programs, the CBO projects that the bill would raise our deficits by $1.3 trillion over the next 20 years — and rising.</p></blockquote>
<p>Common sense.  ObamaCare will raise taxes immensely and on top of that will lower our standard of health care.</p>
<p>Yippee!&#8230;&#8221;free&#8221; health care!</p>
<p>Sigh&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>One RINO Caves To Obama &amp; The Socialist Health Bill Is Now Called &#8220;Bipartisan&#8221; By The WH</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know the Obama administration is living in the ozone when they claim the Baucus bill is &#8220;bipartisan&#8221; because of one&#8230;.ONE&#8230;.Republican vote:
“Today we reached a critical milestone in our efforts to reform our health care system, the president said this afternoon,” speaking from the White House Rose Garden.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know the Obama administration is living in the ozone when they <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/HealthCare/health-care-senate-finance-committee-approves-baucus-bill/story?id=8817603">claim the Baucus bill is &#8220;bipartisan&#8221;</a> because of one&#8230;.ONE&#8230;.Republican vote:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Today we reached a critical milestone in our efforts to reform our health care system, the president said this afternoon,” speaking from the White House Rose Garden.</p>
<p>Although the bill drew an “aye” vote from one Republican senator, President Obama touted the bill as a proposal having both “Democratic and Republican support.”</p>
<p>“After the consideration of hundreds of amendments, it includes ideas from both Democrats and Republicans, which is why it enjoys the support of people from both parties,” he said.</p>
<p>The president thanked in particular the senator who cast the lone Republican vote, Sen. Olympia Snowe from Maine.</p></blockquote>
<p>Democrat&#8230;.er, &#8220;Republican&#8221; Senator Snowe caving to the Democrats is not surprising.  Just look at her scorecard at <a href="http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2009/10/olympia_snowes_voting_record.php">Club For Growth</a>:</p>
<p><strong>Year                   Score                 Rank</strong><br />
2008                     12%                     63<br />
2007                     12%                     66<br />
2006                       9%                      62<br />
2005                     18%          56</p>
<p>No&#8230;not surprising in the least and I suppose the ignorant claim that her defection is proof that the bill is bipartisan should not surprise us either coming from this administration. <span id="more-29244"></span></p>
<p>Worried?</p>
<p>You should be and this is not a time to let up on the pressure.</p>
<p>But there are still some optimists out there like CATO&#8217;s <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/10/12/why-the-democrats-health-care-overhaul-may-die/">Michael Cannon</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>But universal coverage is so expensive that Congress can’t get there without taxing <em>Democrats</em>.</p>
<ul>
<li>Sen.      Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) is the biggest <a href="http://rockefeller.senate.gov/press/record.cfm?id=318601" target="_blank">opponent</a> of Sen. Max Baucus’ (D-MT) tax on expensive health plans because that tax      would hit West Virginia      coal miners.</li>
<li>Unions      vigorously <a href="http://www.examiner.com/p-403712%7ETeamsters_Oppose_Baucus_Plan_to_Tax_Health_Insurance_Companies.html" target="_blank">oppose</a> that tax because it would hit their members.</li>
<li>Moderate      Democrats in the House <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25034.html" target="_blank">oppose</a> Rep. Charlie Rangel’s (D-NY) supposed “millionaires surtax” because they know it would hit small businesses in their districts.</li>
</ul>
<p>And on and on…</p>
<p>But if congressional leaders pare back those taxes, they lose the support of the health care industry, which wants its subsidies.</p>
<ul>
<li>That’s      why the health insurance lobby funded <a href="http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/pwc_report_on_Costs_final_101109.pdf" target="_blank">this      PriceWaterhouseCoopers study</a> saying that premiums would rise under the      Baucus bill: the $500 billion bailout they would receive <em>isn’t enough</em>.  They also want –      they <em>demand </em>–  steep taxes on Americans who don’t buy      their products.</li>
<li>The drug companies, the hospitals, and the physician groups are likewise demanding big subsidies, and will run ads to kill the whole effort if those subsidies aren’t big enough.</li>
</ul>
<div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:180%;">~~~</span></div>
<p>Can President Obama and the congressional leadership satisfy both groups?  My guess is, probably not, and this misguided effort at “reform” will therefore die.  Again.</p></blockquote>
<p>Since this bill is now out of committee it now has to be merged with the Senate HELP Committee&#8217;s even more socialist version then it needs to pass the Senate.  Then the House needs to merge the three bills they have and that version needs to pass the House.  If they both pass then they need to be merged into one gigantic bill and then must pass both chambers to get signed by the President.</p>
<p>Ya think it&#8217;s bipartisan enough with that one vote?</p>
<p>Myself, I don&#8217;t want to rely on hope.</p>
<p>Keep the pressure on folks.</p>
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		<title>That Health Care &#8220;Reform&#8221; Will Actually Force Us To Pay More For Insurance</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[America&#8217;s Health Insurance Plans commissioned a study from PriceWaterhouseCoopers recently on the Baucus health bill and it shows many things that we all expected and feared would happen.  The cost of insurance will go waaaaay up&#8230;.by about 18% on average ON TOP of the expected inflation.

﻿Key Findings

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America&#8217;s Health Insurance Plans commissioned a study from PriceWaterhouseCoopers recently on the Baucus health bill and it shows many things that we all expected and feared would happen.  The cost of insurance will go waaaaay up&#8230;.by about 18% on average ON TOP of the expected inflation.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">﻿Key Findings</p>
<ul>
<li>Health reform could have a significant impact on the cost of private health insurance coverage.</li>
<li>There are four provisions included in the Senate Finance Committee proposal that could increase private health insurance premiums above the levels projected under current law:
<ol>
<li>A new tax on high-cost health care plans,</li>
<li>Insurance market reforms coupled with a weak coverage requirement,</li>
<li>Cost-shifting as a result of cuts to Medicare</li>
<li>and New taxes on several health care sectors.</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>The overall impact of these provisions will be to increase the cost of private insurance coverage for individuals, families, and businesses above what these costs would be in the absence of reform.</li>
<li>On average, the cost of private health insurance coverage will increase:
<ol>
<li>26 percent between 2009 and 2013 under the current system and by 40 percent during this same period if these four provisions are implemented.</li>
<li>50 percent between 2009 and 2016 under the current system and by 73 percent during this same period if these four provisions are implemented.</li>
<li>79 percent between 2009 and 2019 under the current system and by 111 percent during this same period if these four provisions are implemented.</li>
</ol>
</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<p>America&#8217;s Health Insurance Plans asked PricewaterhouseCoopers to check out the impact of four components in the Baucus bill: <span id="more-29220"></span></p>
<blockquote>
<ul>
<li>Insurance market reforms and consumer protections that would raise health insurance premiums for individuals and families if the reforms are not coupled with an effective coverage requirement.</li>
<li>An excise tax on employer-sponsored high value health plans (or &#8220;Cadillac plans&#8221;) that in a few years could also raise premiums for some moderate value plans.</li>
<li>Cuts in payment rates in public programs that could increase cost shifting to private sector businesses and consumers. These changes are expected to more than offset the potential reduction in cost shifting resulting from providing coverage to the uninsured.</li>
<li>New taxes on health sector entities that are likely to be passed through to consumers.</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<p>And found the following:</p>
<blockquote><p>This analysis shows that the cost of the average family coverage is approximately $12,300 today and could be expected to increase to approximately:</p>
<ul>
<li>$15,500 in 2013 under current law and to $17,200 if these provisions are implemented.</li>
<li>$18,400 in 2016 under current law and to $21,300 if these provisions are implemented.</li>
<li>$21,900 in 2019 under current law and to $25,900 if these provisions are implemented.</li>
</ul>
<p>This analysis shows that the cost of the average single coverage is $4,600 today and could be expected to increase to:</p>
<ul>
<li>$5,800 in 2013 under current law and to $6,400 if these provisions are implemented.</li>
<li>$6,900 in 2016 under current law and to $7,900 if these provisions are implemented.</li>
<li>$8,200 in 2019 under current law and to $9,700 if these provisions are implemented.</li>
</ul>
<p>&#8230;by 2019 the cost of single coverage is expected to increase by $1,500 more than it would under the current system and the cost of family coverage is expected to increase by $4,000 more than it would under the current system. This amounts to an additional 18 percent increase in premiums by 2019. The overall 18 percent increase is a composite of increases by market segment as follows:</p>
<ul>
<li>49% increase for the non-group (individual) market;</li>
<li>28% increase for small employers (those firms with fewer than 50 employees);</li>
<li>11% increase for large employers with insured coverage; and,</li>
<li>9% increase for self-insured employers.</li>
</ul>
<p>The overall impact of these provisions will be to increase the cost of private health insurance coverage for individuals, families, and businesses. The net impact of these increases on households would include the impact of these increases and the new subsidies provided under the bill.</p></blockquote>
<p>You can check out the whole report <a href="http://www.politico.com/static/PPM116_pwc2.html">here</a>.</p>
<p>Senator Barrasso visited Fox News this morning and discussed the findings:</p>
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<p>Liberal sites are crying about the study <a href="http://www.tnr.com/blog/the-treatment/breaking-the-insurance-industry-declares-war">complaining</a> that the study doesn&#8217;t take into consideration the subsidies:</p>
<blockquote><p>But this accounting leaves out some pretty big things, starting with the subsidies that would help people buy insurance.</p>
<div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:180%;">~~~</span></div>
<p>Now, the subsidies are not available to everybody, since they phase out with income and are only available through the insurance exchanges. As a result, people with higher incomes really would face higher premiums.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/12/video-gop-reacts-to-pwc-audit-on-baucus-plan/">Ed Morrissey</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;PWC wanted to take a look at the actual cost of premiums, not the impact on subsidies, which is a political rather than economic question. The subsidies will still be in place, but they will apply to policies that cost a lot more than Baucus projected.</p>
<p>How much more? Take a look at this analysis from page 6 of the report:</p>
<blockquote><p>PwC also examined the impact of the excise tax on the mandated plans expected to be offered under the state health insurance exchanges detailed in the Senate Finance Committee Bill.   We estimate that in many metropolitan areas, which tend to have higher than average medical costs, the lowest option plan (Bronze Plan) would be considered a “Cadillac plan” as early as 2016. By 2016 at least one of the mandated plans will be considered a “Cadillac plan” and be subject to the 40 percent excise tax in 17 of 50 states. By 2019 at least one of the mandated plans will be considered a “Cadillac plan” and be subject to the 40 percent excise tax in 24 of 50 states.</p></blockquote>
<p>Barasso didn’t get fooled by the subsidy red herring, either. He notes that the subsidies don’t start until 2013, but the taxes and fees kick in immediately. That will start the price pressure on premiums next year, not in 2013, and it will actually make the problem of uninsured worse in the short run.</p>
<p>Besides, what was the rationale for the excise tax on Cadillac plans in the first place? It intended to discourage plans that allowed for overuse of the system. By the end of its first decade, the Baucus plan makes most plans subject to that tax, which means that there is no real penalty for offering them or buying them. It transforms quickly into another general industry tax and does nothing to encourage rational use of the system.</p></blockquote>
<p>They want people to think that these taxes will only affect the rich, but by the time this is all through anyone making 25 grand will be considered rich by the Obama government.   But sure, there will be people who benefit from the plan.  Those who meet the standards for subsidies or those who get the government plan will see prices reduced at the cost of all the rest of us paying more.  And still they estimate that 25 million will remain uninsured by this Baucus plan.  </p>
<p>Just fantastic.</p>
<p>And remember, Obama said if we dig the plan we have currently we can keep it&#8230;he leaves <a href="http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Health-care-tab-to-be-paid-by-taxpayers_-businesses_-seniors-8361542-63800742.html">out a key point tho</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The government would also levy more payroll taxes. Included in a footnote in the CBO report is the revelation that the government expects to raise an extra $83 billion in payroll taxes in the next 10 years thanks to the higher taxable wages they predict employers will offer in place of non-taxable health care benefits.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wonderful.</p>
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		<title>Health-Care Industry Surprised To Find Out Costs Of ObamaCare</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was months ago that Obama vilified doctors and basically called them greedy:
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was months ago that <a href="http://www.healthleadersmedia.com/content/237492/page/2/topic/WS_HLM2_PHY/Obama-Missteps-on-Foot-Amputation-Pay-to-Surgeons.html">Obama vilified doctors</a> and basically called them greedy:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Right now, doctors, a lot of times, are forced to make decisions based on the fee payment schedule that’s out there. So if you come in and you’ve got a bad sore throat, or your child has a bad sore throat, or has repeated sore throats, the doctor may look at the reimbursement system and say to himself, ‘You know what? I make a lot more money if I take this kid’s tonsils out.’ Now, that may be the right thing to do, but I’d rather have that doctor making those decisions just based on whether you really need your kid’s tonsils out or whether it might make more sense just to change, maybe they have allergies, maybe they have something else that would make a difference.”</p>
<div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:180%;">~~~</span></div>
<p>“All I’m saying is let’s take an example of something like diabetes, one of, a disease that’s skyrocketing, partly because of obesity, partly because it’s not treated as effectively as it could be. Right now, if we paid a family, if a family care physician works with his or her patients to help them lose weight, modify diet, monitors whether they’re taking their medications in a timely fashion, they might get reimbursed a pittance. But if that same diabetic ends up getting their foot amputated, that’s $30,000, $40,000, $50,000, immediately the surgeon is reimbursed. Well, why not make sure that we’re also reimbursing the care that prevents the amputation, right? That will save us money.”</p></blockquote>
<p>But still the AMA and the insurance industry backed his disastrous socialism.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/08/AR2009100801732.html?hpid=topnews">Are they starting to wake up?</a>: <span id="more-28995"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>The industry heavyweights President Obama neutralized through the summer are agitating that the health-care bills in Congress violate agreements they made with the White House, leave 25 million Americans uninsured and have the potential to increase medical costs.</p>
<p>One day after Democrats celebrated the news that a bill drafted in the Senate Finance Committee would not increase the deficit, the prospects for speedy enactment of landmark reform grew murkier. Industry leaders, who have held their tongues for months, spoke in increasingly dire tones Thursday about the impact of the Democratic proposals, raising the specter of an eleventh-hour lobbying campaign to defeat Obama’s centerpiece domestic policy goal.</p>
<p>Many lobbyists and independent analysts underlined what they called major flaws in the Finance Committee’s bill, saying it probably would draw the sickest, most expensive patients into the health coverage system without balancing the insurance risk with more young, healthy people. The result, they predicted, would be ever-rising premiums for the people, businesses and governments that pay for medical care. </p>
<p>&#8220;The consequences of this would be an upward spiral; rate shock to everyone who stays in,&#8221; said Karen Ignagni, president of the industry group America&#8217;s Health Insurance Plans. &#8220;This legislation will fail the test of affordability for individuals.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>They&#8217;re worried about the device tax which is estimated to be about <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,562580,00.html">$38 billion over 10 years</a> which most of us regular folk don&#8217;t understand&#8230;<a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/09/pawlenty-slams-baucus-plan/">but physicians do</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>As a pathologist, there are numerous things that are being overlooked, probably because the general public doesn’t understand. If you look at the 49 page list of medical devices, there are a bunch of laboratory items. If you look at the codes, HE is hematology, CH is chemistry, IM is immunology, TX is toxicology, AN is analyzer…The analyzers or laboratory instruments are taxed. The calibrators to calibrate the analyzers are taxed. The controls which are known samples that are run 3 times a day to ensure that the analyzer is working are taxed. Numerous testing assays which include the reagents to run the test are taxed. So you could be looking at one lab test having a tax on the analyzer (granted most analyzers run more than one test, but not always), calibrators taxed, controls taxed and reagents taxed. Hell, they even tax the rack to hold the tube for a hematocrit. See hematocrit, tube, rack, sealer, holder. Costs will go up across the board for lab work. CBC, chemistries, blood typing, viral testing, coagulation studies, immunoassay for troponin to see if someone is having a heart attack and on and on. It is truly amazing.</p></blockquote>
<p>They&#8217;re worried about the fact that would&#8230;.gasp!&#8230;.actually <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/08/AR2009100801732_2.html?hpid=topnews&#038;sid=ST2009100801837">cost them more</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Without the addition of the millions of young and healthy Americans who now choose to forgo coverage . . . the requirement that insurers insure all comers . . . would actually backfire &#8212; resulting in higher premiums and more instability for the middle class,&#8221; wrote researchers at the Third Way, a centrist Democratic group. </p></blockquote>
<p>But I think what they are most worried about is that they can&#8217;t trust Obama.  </p>
<p>We all saw this early on, but they were duped, as was 52% of the country.</p>
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