The Continued Deterioration of our Universities

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This is the state of our academia today. If you’re conservative then you must be shouted down, not allowed to speak, rush the stage or throw pies in your face.

Former top Bush aide Karl Rove didn’t get the friendliest of receptions at the University of Iowa Sunday, CNN affiliate KCRG reports.

Rove, who was paid $40,000 to speak at the University, was confronted with an at-times hostile crowd of 1,000, and was interrupted on several occasions.

At one point during the speech, Rove reportedly lashed out at some of the students, saying, “You got a chance to ask your questions later and make your stupid statements, let me make mine.”

Police also were forced to remove two people after they tried to perform a citizen’s arrest on Rove for what they said were his crimes while a member of the Bush Administration.

At one point, a person asked Rove if he has ever shed a tear over the war in Iraq.

“I shed a lot of tears and I have been inspired by many of the people who feel their son or daughter should not have to die in vain,” he replied.

Toward the end of the speech a member of the crowd yelled, “Can we have our $40,000 back?”

Rove replied, “No, you can’t.”

Radio Iowa also reports one audience member told Rove that MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann named him the “worst person ever.”

“Ever?” Rove joked. “Yea, worse than Hitler, worse than Stalin, worse than Mao and worse than the person who introduced aluminum baseball bats.”

Cameras were only allowed to film the beginning of the speech.

And the libs loved it judging from the comments on the article:

I love that smart student asked for $40,000 reimbursement! good job

Love you Iowa. Right on!

Way to go Iowa State!!!! Awesome. This guy is the worst of the worst. He helped Bush steal 2 elections and was the brain child for one of the worst military campaigns in modern history. Maybe the Clinton campaign has a position for him, eh?

Obama 2008

based on overwhelming evidence, rove should be in prison for treason. if you don’t agree, then you must hate america and should leave.

It would have been nice if the police had grabbed Rove, and hauled him out of the building as well. This man is being payed 40k to corrupt the minds of young college students. Boy, those republicans will stop at nothing with their agenda, will they? (ed. the kids were forced to attend?)

Go Iowa University students! I am so pleased to read that you are active in politics, know what a slimey murderous egotistical criminal Karl Rove is ….I pray that he gets what he deserves one day.

He and Hitler would have been good friends. He’d have managed Adolf’s election campaign with pretty much the same rhetoric of despite that he used so well against the Democrats and moderates in this once-free country.

The part about the citizens arrest becuase of his crimes while on the Bush administration is just too funny! Way to go University of Iowa? He deserved this after his remarks about Barack.

I have never been more proud of those Hawkeyes. Way to go! That’s the biggest waste of $40,000!

There were a few who stuck up for a honest intelligent discourse. You may not agree but give both sides the opportunity to speak their minds. But my favorite comment:

Leave it to Academia that they would welcome Iranian’s President and think Rove is too controversial. What a JOKE!

and:

The University of Iowa has never been known for producing Einstein’s.

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More evidence that liberalism is a mental disorder. They are incapable of reasoned, civilized debate.

They probably blame their own Neanderthal behavior on Rove.

It is also my experience that my liberal friends get angry when I start to produce facts and references that dispute their positioins… They just get mad and start shouting you down. They won’t let you speak of finish speaking.

“Based on overwhelming evidence, rove should be in prison for treason. if you don’t agree, then you must hate america and should leave.”

Once again, the left reveals that their plan is to criminalize political speech they find offensive. And note who it is that would run a police state on the basis of beliefs and speech.

Great post, Ace. These twits are going to be running the world one day. Don’t worry. Our Founding Fathers had the good sense to make sure you had to be of the age 35 to become president. God bless us! This way, they will at least have had time to get a job and meet reality. 😉

What a disgrace — to shout and swear at an 84 year old man? This is exactly how these types treat others, from the innocent unborn to the elderly. The left is a pathetic sham!

It is always interesting to see all the “enlightned people” that are in academia that believe so strongly on certain issues. When you look back after you have a little bit of life experience under your belt how intemperant you were. You manage to try to arrest Karl Rove and yell out obsurd things. The problem is you will never be taken seriously until you learn to behave like adults. Regardless if you have viable points to talk about.

Great post, Ace. These twits are going to be running the world one day. Don’t worry. Our Founding Fathers had the good sense to make sure you had to be of the age 35 to become president. God bless us! This way, they will at least have had time to get a job and meet reality.

Rosemary, the sad part is that this has been the pathetic excuse of our educational system that indoctrinates these poor defenseless children from an early age. Far too many of this generation of “students” believe that corporations are the biggest threat to our planets health while not understanding where the majority of the tax base comes from that maintains the infrastructure of our economy. The very teachers and professors that benefit from a free market system that includes one of the most powerful unions in the world teach a socialist-government-dependency ideology that absolves them of any personal responsibility. The idea that the hard work their grandparents (and some of their parents) put forth to provide a respectable living conflicts with the very structure of our educational system that has an 85% liberal mentality. I believe it is this very conflict that has our youth reaching out to Obama who offers “hope and change” in the guise of a nanny-state culture of government dependence. Until our educational system is overhauled and the power structure that controls the “system” is changed, these children are doomed to failure.

(Curt, not to be picky, but in the second sentence of this post: “If your conservative then you must be shouted down, not allowed to speak, rush the stage or throw pies in your face.” ——- shouldn’t it be “you’re”?)

Rosemary, hopefully they’ll just stay on the farm in Iowa or be Iowa politicians. Let ’em screw up the great Hawkeye State rather than the entire country.
Rovin, I agree. My University was pretty well balanced with insight from both sides of the political spectrum. O

The fact that those in the audience did not like Karl Rove is not an indication of their stupidity. Blind loyalty to The Party, while a virtue among the Party Faithful, is not the sole measure of one’s worth in general life. Independent and critical thinking is, despite Conservative efforts to stamp it out.

I love humanity.

But I really, really hate people.

I wonder what the annual tuition is at Iowa State.
Maybe that skull full of mush should ask for his tuition back.

“Independent and critical thinking is, despite Conservative efforts to stamp it out.”

Apparently they’ve succeeded in doing that with you steve. I’ve yet to seen anything close to critical thinking from you.

Steve,

Look in a mirror when you say “Blind loyalty to The Party, while a virtue among the Party Faithful, is not the sole measure of one’s worth in general life.” You are projecting again.

Unfortunately, the fact that the current “conservatives” rule by deception, fraud and ramrod politics leaves rudeness and public abuse as the only possible venue for the voice of dissent. If conservatives (by which I mean neocons specifically) played fairly, they would not encounter such suppressed rage on parade. But if they did play fairly, they would not be voted into office, either…. What percentage of American voters would elect into office people who were truthful about their positions, who would tell the voters plainly of their obeisance to multinational corporate piracy, which results in a devastated and weakened America (jobs shipped overseas, torture, wars of aggression, suspension of habeas corpus, environmental degradation, et al)?

Mike’s America — regarding your painfully twisted interpretation:
The comment you quote, “Based on overwhelming evidence, rove should be in prison for treason. if you don’t agree, then you must hate america and should leave”, is but a tongue-in-cheek “back-at-you” reiteration of what the Right has been throwing at anyone who doesn’t toe the right-wing line. This is very plain to anyone who doesn’t “resemble that remark”, and is apparently most offensive to those who dish out such lines.
Besides, the only reason there is this great outpouring of emotion against Rove is that the will of the people has been effectively silenced in all other fora. The man refuses to appear before a judge and swear to tell the truth, even! What else can people who feel defiled by his ploys do but verbally assault him in public, I ask you? What would you do if it were a left-wing dictator abusing all the prior laws of your land, and refusing accountability?

Mike’s America — oh yes, I forgot to point out the extremely obvious fact that these “lefties” were exercising their free speech rights, but ARRESTED for it by Rove’s guards, for God’s sake. Who is criminalizing free speech? What has happened to America, indeed! Wake up and smell the sewage they poured in your coffee mug.

“True Conservative” would prefer a shitter out back of the house and an unpaved road to a majestic utopia while ignoring the reality of a world economy that agressively struggles to maintain a “fairly” level playing field.

What percentage of American voters would elect into office people who were truthful about their positions……

Like the daily deceptions of Barak and Hillary who have promised more government hand-outs with their “trick or treat” mentality? Pass the candy, (vote for me), and I’ll hide your tax bill long enough for your children to inherit the burden. Damn those pesky neocons that spead such lies.

Re: “Like the daily deceptions of Barak and Hillary who have promised more government hand-outs with their “trick or treat” mentality?”

Conservatives controlled the White House and Congress from 2002 through 2006. I did not notice that the Candy Store was closed any of those years. did you?

Curt: yes, I overlooked that arrest detail; thanks for the correction.
Still, a “citizen’s arrest” is not simply political theatrics (which would still fall under our protected “free speech” rights in cases). A citizen’s arrest is perhaps one of the most courageous acts a person can perform in a civil society. (Have you ever tried arresting – or even contemplated doing so – anyone you know to be a criminal?)
After an arrest, the matter is not for you or me to decide the validity of the accusation, but is to be weighed in a court of law. If the “arrest” is shown to simply a harassment with no basis in broken law, then prosecute the arrestors! Absolutely and without leniency.
Call people abusive names if you feel that’s your best weapon against their reason, but level-headed people should investigate the validity of these criminal accusations before the arrestors are dismissed as “idiots”, along with “all”.

Conservatives controlled the White House and Congress from 2002 through 2006. I did not notice that the Candy Store was closed any of those years. did you?

This is where you and I would be in total agreement Steve. I would submit that it was the “drunken sailor” spending of the conservative party that actually played the biggest part in their removal from being a majority. BUT, does the “you did it first” make it some how allowable for a democratic party that would bankrupt this already fragile economy with their entitlement expansion plans?

Steve’s right, but goes for the half truth misleading edge again: Republicans did hold Congress for 4years, and did spend like drunken sailors, but this is where Steve’s truth stops, and the real truth continues; the real truth is that conservatives and Americans in general held those drunken sailors to account and removed many from office. Such an introspective demand for accountability is not only unheard of on the left side of the spectrum, but if one speaks out against the loudest voices in the Coalition that is the DNC, then they’re labeled neocons, forced to wear a scarlet A on their chest, a yellow star of david on their arms and booted from people’s party of open arms.

Republicans were held to account.
Democrats…not so much. They’ll defend anything.

“Democrats…not so much. They’ll defend anything.”

Well, anything except America…..