Why it’s so imperative that Trump be impeached and removed from office

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Oh my.

Adam Schiff gave an interview to The New Yorker in which he had some really nasty things to say about Donald Trump.  One stands out in particular:



“The President doesn’t give a shit about what’s good for our country, what’s good for Ukraine. It’s all about what’s in it for him personally and for his reëlection campaign.”

Doesn’t care about what’s good for our country? Seriously? The data says otherwise. Jim Geraghty:

Turning our attention to the American economy, you’ve heard about the low unemployment rate. What you may not have heard is that the workforce participation rate for those between 25 and 54 years old is up to 80.1 percent — the highest since early 2007.

If that’s eleven, then twelve would be the U.S. Census Bureau’s latest report on income and poverty, which came out in October. That report found real median family income up 1.2 percent from 2017 to 2018, real median earnings up 3.4 percent, the number of full-time, year-round workers increased by 2.3 million, and the poverty rate declined from 12.3 percent to 11.8 percent, with 1.4 million people leaving poverty.

Then there’s the new jobs report:

WASHINGTON (AP) — Hiring in the United States jumped last month to its highest level since January as U.S. employers shrugged off trade conflicts and a global slowdown and added 266,000 jobs.

The unemployment rate dipped to 3.5% from 3.6% in October, matching a half-century low, the Labor Department reported Friday. And wages rose a solid 3.1% in November compared with a year earlier.

Investors cheered the report, sending the Dow Jones industrial average up 325 points in mid-day trading.

November’s healthy job gain runs against a widespread view that many employers are either delaying hiring until a breakthrough in the U.S.-China trade war is reached or are struggling to find workers with unemployment so low. The pace of hiring points to the resilience of the job market and economy more than a decade into the U.S. economic expansion — the longest on record.

And if you want more, there are lengthy collections of Trump accomplishments to be seen here and here.

Black and Hispanic unemployment are at record lows, employment of women is up.

Trump got prison reform done.

We’re in a relative peace. The US isn’t knocking over another Libya for no reason.

He’d get a lot more done but for this impeachment nonsense.

And that’s why it’s happening.

It’s not to save the country from Trump. It’s to save democrats from Trump.

“I do hate what he is doing” says Schiff.

Without a doubt. The country is doing very well. democrats have lost hope for a recession. They want impeachment because they believe they will lose in the Courts.

They want to impeach Trump because they know they cannot beat him in a fair election now. Dem Rep. Al Green:

“I’m concerned if we don’t impeach this president, he will get re-elected. If we don’t impeach him, he will say he’s been vindicated. He will say the Democrats had an overwhelming majority in the House and didn’t take up impeachment. He will say we had a constitutional duty to do and we didn’t. He will say he’s been vindicated.”

Nancy Pelosi believes the next election is too important to be left to the people of the US.

Democrats want to save the country from Trump. They want to save the country this period of peace and prosperity.

They need to remove him before he can do more good for the country. It’s imperative.

Good luck with that platform. Impeaching Trump will allow focus on all the above to be emphasized. It will guarantee his reelection and it may well cost them the House.

 

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He doesn’t think Trump gives a schifft?

Democrats think no one has figured this out. They want to think other people are STUPID enough to believe Schiff after he declared he had EVIDENCE that proved Trump colluded with Russians to win in 2016. THEN all that “evidence” simply disappeared when Mueller’s report proved he was lying.

The media HIDES all this great news. They can’t allow the truth about Trump’s job performance to leak out. If they reported honestly, instead of 50% approval, Trump would have 70% and the Democrats can’t allow that. The left thinks people are too stupid to figure THAT out as well. MANY are aware the liberal media is nothing but the lying propaganda organ of the Democrat party.

If the Republicans in the Senate are as aggressive as the House Republicans, the Democrats are in for an ass-whoopin’ of Biblical proportions.

And when all this is over, a new Congressional rule needs to be put in place that at a hearing where people are sworn under oath, the Congresspersons should also be legally regarded as under oath as well and gigantic lies such as those Schiff and Nadler spewed in their statements would be considered perjury. As it is, they should ALL be censured and, if possible, removed from office. This kind of threat against our government should not be condoned, forgiven or allowed to ever happen again.

@Ariel Griffin: Fake, fraud

@kitt: Yup…I know it is. For now I have the comment archived but off the website. I have the IP information as well as the other pertinent information they used to comment saved and documented.

[DELETED OFFENSIVE COMMENT FROM SOMEONE ON A ANDROID PHONE IN JOPLIN MISSOURI]

@Cynthia Campbell: This one has been saved as well and forwarded to law enforcement. Just a FYI.

“The President doesn’t give a shit about what’s good for our country, what’s good for Ukraine. It’s all about what’s in it for him personally and for his reëlection campaign.”

Leftist projection from a buggy eyed Stalinist.

Then there’s the new jobs report:

Great news for average mainstream Americans. Bad news for demokrats. They’d rather have high unemployment rates and no wage growth that way people need government assistance (see Obamanomics). They are easier to control that way. BTW, where did all those new jobs come from? Obama said they weren’t coming back.

@another vet: That’s how totalitarians come to power, in the midst of social suffering. Democrats hate that Trump is doing so much good for the nation.

The Dems TALK a great game when it comes to “Income Inequality.”
But then we always seem to learn about their hypocrisy.
They treat their staff like crap.
They pay their men more than their women.
And, wherever they rule (like CA or NY) the income gap keeps widening between rich and poor, men and women.
BUT…..
Under President Trump the Income Gap has begun SHRINKING!
It took a while, as it was growing when he took office, but it is shrinking now, as of these most recent economic numbers.

So, of course Dems want Pres Trump removed from office now, before the masses of voters get wind of which party is really making things better for them.
(Too late!)

House Speaker @SpeakerPelosi initiated the House impeachment inquiry against @realDonaldTrump on Sept 24, 2019.

Since then, National Democratic Voter approval of the job @realDonaldTrump is doing has – risen slightly – from 23% to 25%.

Perhaps “do it now” is – prudent advice?

Another headline is five Dems will not vote for impeachment with another two waivering.

So now it appears Max Rose (NY) and Dan Kildee (MI) are joining Heff Van Dybe (NJ), Cindy Axnie (IA), & 1 other IA congresswoman in opposing impeachment.

Brindisi (NY) & Horn (OK) are under water. Are they going to support?

Looks like Botoxic akready down to a margin of 10

Both linked at

Pro Trump News

@Nan G: Imagine Pelosi putting her members in such a position. Either they cut their own throats and, if they happen to actually have ethics, vote against their sense of justice and support Nancy’s impeachment or the face exclusion from the party and the wrath of Nancy. She is such garbage. Weak, unethical, immoral, hateful garbage.

266 thousand jobs added, wages up 3.1 %
Trumps approval rating rises the Day Nancy announces articles to be written.
Democrats still imagining the true one and only “We got him” moment in their feast of nothing burgers.
I expect NOTHING from Horowitz, its his job to protect the deep-state and its “reputation”.
All we got last time was a Comey moment.
Yes they did bad things but we are going to make some more rules. pfffft.

DJ, assuming Trump is all that successful as you paint, that he’s an economic genus and saved us from the perils of the Obama economy, that he has a deep down love and respect for the country, that the average worker now has an abundance of cash in their pockets, that the prison reform was both all that and all him, that he sedated the world and finally brought world peace, eradicated racism and cancer, all these other exaggerated and fabricated accomplishment, does that exempt him of conduct outlined by impeachable offenses in our Constitution.

Yeah yeah, I get it that you (well, perhaps not you but your patrol of parroting cheer-leaders) want to argue that it wasn’t an impeachable offense and if it was he isn’t guilty and if he’s guilty it isn’t what the framers meant and if it’s what the framers meant well times have changed and it’s no longer all that’s bad and if it’s still all that bad well everybody does it.

But your kowtowing seems to be now going to that even if it is an impeachable offense and even if he is guilty and even if it is what the framers meant and even if it really is that bad and even if nobody else does it, it’s still wrong to impeach because Trump is such an awesome president and doing such an awesome job.

It’s much like I’ve said all along-it just does not matter. I could easily argue your points of him doing such a good job but regardless of the merits, it would just be something else.

@Ronald J. Ward: No matter what your mother is seeing all the help wanted signs, soon you will need to wash the cheetos from you cheeks and get out of the basement and get a job.
Numbers dont lie so math is racist.
You simply have no argument for the economic numbers or that Biden cant fill a classroom and Trump fills stadiums with overflow.
You cant provide evidence of Trump committing an impeachable offense, any more than Schiff can.
Why are you a democrat how is their platform going to improve voters lives?

@Ronald J. Ward:

While you could argue Trump has committed an impeachable offense based on the Constitution, I would have my doubts that you have the capacity to understand what the Constitution states or what is clearly outlined in the Federalist Papers.

What you can’t argue with is a) the economy b) the Trump campaign was spied on c) there is a Deep State that is out of control and d) the Democrats are scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for an impeachable offense and have been since the day Trump was inaugurated.

You seem to love putting words in other people’s mouths. Why is that? Do you feel the need to misrepresent the opinion of others to solidify your own?

@kitt:

Okay, it flew over your head didn’t it?

My argument argument has nothing to do with Trumps successes or lack of. It has nothing to do with his popularity or Biden’s lack of. It has nothing to do with the mathematical formula of racism.

What it has to do with is the constant movement of the goal post and the crackpot conspiracy theories of the GOP which is abetted by Fox News and folk like Dr John and/or you.

And it doesn’t matter if there’s evidence of Trump committing an impeachable offense because for 1, Trump enablers will never ever accept it and 2) even if it’s overwhelming, you/they’ll simply fall back to that it isn’t impeachable or it’s not all that bad or not what the framers intended or “but Obama” or in this case, that Trump is so great that he should get a pass.

If in fact as you say, there’s evidence of Trump committing an impeachable offense, then you’d have a valid argument to stand on rather than relying on the absurd.

It all boils down to this lone question:
1) Did
2) our President
3) call a foreign president
4) and requested information on a political opponent
5) in exchange for congressional appropriated funding
6) which is an impeachable offense.

Yes or no? It’s indeed binary and doesn’t matter if it was all that bad or if it’s what the constitution means or how fantastic Trump is or what Obama or Biden did or didn’t do.

If he did this he committed an impeachable offense which is much worse than lying about getting sexual relief from an intern. The problem is, Trump, the GOP, Fox and Friends, and you and other enablers are trying to spin from what appears to be the obvious.

@retire05:

What you can’t argue with is a) the economy b) the Trump campaign was spied on c) there is a Deep State that is out of control and d) the Democrats are scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for an impeachable offense and have been since the day Trump was inaugurated.

Why would I want to and what does it have to do with if Trump called Zelensky and demanded him to open an investigation on Biden for his own electoral advantage in order for Zelensky to receive congressional appropriated funding?

Or, did Trump threaten (directly or indirectly) to withhold congressional appropriated money to a foreign gov unless they assisted Trump in digging up dirt on a political opponent?

Yes or no?

If no, why all the crackpot conspiracy theories and side show distractions which at the end of the day, makes no difference anyway?

If yes, game over.

@Ronald J. Ward:

I believe Trump actually mentioned Crowd Strike (which deals with the 2016 election. Perhaps you think that election is still going on) to Zelensky. Perhaps you can read the transcript of the call without a jaded view?

Did Trump threaten to withhold aid? Well, if he did, Zelensky didn’t get the message, did he? And Zelensky said there was no quid pro quo. Is Zelensky a liar?

Now, here’s the thing; Joe Biden is on video admitting he threatened to withhold aid to the Ukraine if they did not give him his quid pro quo. How do you square wanting to impeach Trump for (maybe) doing something we know Biden did but suffers no repercussion from the Democrats?

Only a deranged mind would want to impeach Trump for a crime they want to ignore Biden actually admits to. To claim that Trump has no authority to investigate corruption in a nation that has an anti-corruption agreement with the U.S. because Biden is a potential opponent is poppycock. I guess if a Republican, other than Trump, was running for office but suspected of committing a crime, the Dems wouldn’t want that person investigated, right?

@Ronald J. Ward: NO he did not ask for dirt on his opponent, he asked for cooperation on an active investigation, as per a treaty we have with Ukraine and many other countries.
As your counterpart on this blog has pointed out the javelins were not deployed those weapons havent been used so the delaying giving them more weapons that they were not fully trained on made no difference in the security of Ukraine.
Bidens arrangement is connected with 1.8 billion dollars of missing aid.
We have to pay interest on that money borrowed from China.
You can paint selfish evil intent if you want but there is no proof the asswipes in the House carrying on with spying on the President manufacturing a scandal and trying to build a case with hearsay and gossip is beyond pathetic.
So why are you a democrat?
Why do you believe the Democrat pravda that has lied to you about Trump/Russia, and trying to back peddle on their own reporting on Ukraine?
In 2014 His Net Worth Was Estimated at -$900K, but Now It’s Much Higher
I have to get Joes financial advisor
His net worth now 9 million all that money earned while his son worked for Barisima is simply a coincidence.
He can accumulate all that while paying 20K a month for a huge mansion, his wife must clip coupons.
Maybe he can give a few bucks to his sons bastard child for formula and pampers. His Kid wants to be a dead beat dad for all his kids.
No Trump is watching our tax dollars so they are no longer used for kickbacks to crooked politicians and their family, that makes the old guard pissed. Pissed he is exposing all of it and ending the gravy train.
Get used to it it will be Trump 2020

Schiff is just another mindless little pencil neck hoping to score big time coverage from the M.S. Media and appear on TODAY,GMA,CBS SUNDAY MORNING,60 MINUTES or some other liberal leftists news shows

@Ronald J. Ward:

What it has to do with is the constant movement of the goal post and the crackpot conspiracy theories of the GOP which is abetted by Fox News and folk like Dr John and/or you.

Oh. Well maybe YOU can provide that impeachable offense backed up by the evidence that proves it? No, not “I think that’s what he meant” or “I presumed” or “that’s what I heard that guy say he heard from that woman who said she heard it from a guy her cousin knows”… but evidence.

Though you, Rich and Greg have all been asked before, maybe you’ll also reveal the secret hiding place of all that “evidence” you Democrats swore was readily available PROVING Trump colluded with Russians to win in 2016. Maybe… but I doubt it.

Like your “Trump could shoot someone” scenario you are so fond of, all your “impeachable offenses” are speculation. You imagine him doing it, then try to impeach him for it. I don’t know about you, but that sounds crazy to me.

It all boils down to this lone question:
1) Did
2) our President
3) call a foreign president
4) and requested information on a political opponent
5) in exchange for congressional appropriated funding
6) which is an impeachable offense.

It’s good that you’ve rendered it down to that, because that IS the essence of it all. The answer is, NO, he didn’t. He asked for a previous corruption investigation, which Biden had killed because it would have led directly to his son and, inevitably, to himself. Now, unless you think a criminal could suddenly declare himself a candidate (Democrat candidate; that’s the only way it works) for President shields the criminal from investigation or prosecution, it is not Trump’s fault that investigation would (based on Biden’s own braggadocio) right back to Biden (and other Obama administration members) and it would be a dereliction of his duty to ignore the facts based on the premise that one of those involved his connected to the Democrats.

Again, NO. Trump is not guilty of that. No, no, no, no, no. Perhaps that is clear enough so you won’t be tempted to lie about what I answered (or if I answered) and change my words. Again, nothing is guaranteed, though.

If he did this he committed an impeachable offense which is much worse than lying about getting sexual relief from an intern.

Oh, look. In the AJ world, Clinton could commit perjury before a Grand Jury (as well as lying before the entire country) and not be prosecuted. No, AJ, sorry… perjury is not qualified by what the perjury is about. It is lying under oath. If it was such a minor issue, why lie?

Again, for YOU, a Democrat could literally LIE UNDER OATH BEFORE A GRAND JURY and you wouldn’t care. You just wrote it. YOUR words.

Or, did Trump threaten (directly or indirectly) to withhold congressional appropriated money to a foreign gov unless they assisted Trump in digging up dirt on a political opponent?

Nope. But, I welcome your PROOF to the contrary, as requested above.

@retire05:

Only a deranged mind would want to impeach Trump for a crime they want to ignore Biden actually admits to.

Or a Democrat. Same thing, I guess.

@Ronald J. Ward: Trump wasn’t asking for information. He was asking for the new Ukrainian President Zelensky to investigate the improper actions of his countrymen in the interference they were involved in in the 2016 elections and the improper demands of American political actors in the firing of a Ukraine prosecutor who was investigating a company which was bribing Joe Biden by providing cash to his son. His son had nothing of value to offer the company in return other than his father’s political influence.

Biden claims that he was acting on behalf of some vague international coalition. No evidence of the existence of any such coalition exists.

The impropriety of the Bidens’ actions is self evident. Trump wanted proof that the new President was sincere in his professed anti-corruption stance so he wanted Zelensky to announce an investigation into the obvious corruption involved in the firing of his country’s prosecutor under the pressure from Joe Biden who threatened Ukraine with the withholding of promised funds.

Trump wanted action, not information.

@DaNang67: “WE” want a favor, not “I” want a favor. Indeed, I want to know the extent of the corruption and how deeply it extends into the US government as well.

@Ronald J. Ward:
have you read the Constitution and the merits of impeachment? obvious not-your listen to cnn. true socialist

@MOS # 8541: It is so important to them that during Hank Johnson’s questioning of the legal experts they gave him a script, this is why.

As much as I dislike this guy, I sometimes feel sorry for him. In a lot of ways he’s a tragic figure.

@Greg: pretty sure if I recorded everything you say in a day I’d be able to cherry pick some weird sh*t and use it as propaganda.

At least Trump didn’t say there are 47 states…

Aren’t you too busy feeling bad for Joe Biden, your front-runner, calling old people fat and “damn liars” to be worried about our vastly successful and highly competent president?

@Greg: You dont like changing the standards of low flow or multiple flush toilets and 15 minutes to rinse your hair shower heads?
Just remember we are not to use the M word for little people but we could put many more of them on Guam. Dont go to Hanks uncles house for dinner.

@MOS # 8541:
Considering how I’ve repeatedly argued Trump’s impeachment boils down to a binary question of if Trump committed bribery in his discussion with Zelensky, it’s puzzling how you conclude I’m ignorant of the Constitution. It actually raises the question of if you are.

@DaNang67: , @kitt: , You don’t think he’s guilty of bribery which is certainly your prerogative. A great deal of people think otherwise such as a long list of constitutional scholars and judges. Hell, even quite a few republican senators have said it was a crime but they would acquit Trump for numerous other reasons.

But to what I’ve said all along is that it really doesn’t matter if Trump is guilty, anymore than it would matter if he shot and killed the Pope in broad daylight, in front of live cameras, admitted to it, and promise to shoot and kill all Catholics on site if the opportunity arose. Trump enablers would still swear his innocence and even if not, they’d still support him-just as the GOP and you are doing here.

@Ronald J. Ward: You are too poorly informed of the conspiracy and coup attempts. So willing to accept what ever the boob tube tells you.
The President is privy to much more information, no Embassy member in Ukraine could be trusted, he had to send in those he trusted to investigate.
You keep with your fantasy of him actually committing a crime but demand no evidence.
1) The president is in charge of all foreign policy
2) The president is the boss of the executive branch, they all serve him at his pleasure and can be fired without cause.
3)Espionage against the President is treasonous, Schiff
4) The House has not presented 1 piece of solid evidence nor a statute the President has violated in the Ukraine call so sending in his attorneys to participate in a kangaroo event is senseless.
Write the Articles make the charges hand over the evidence.
TAKE THE ACTUAL IMPEACHMENT VOTE …DO IT JUMP NANCY

@Ronald J. Ward:

Trump enablers would still swear his innocence and even if not, they’d still support him-just as the GOP and you are doing here.

The repeated assertion of this highly illogical and irrational statement is mere projection. It’s a high sign of ignorance that you would continue to repeat that “you people WOULD do X IF Y happened.

The above logical fallacy of yours is what every group atrocity in the history of the human race has been built on… Getting dopes like you whipped up into a tisy over things that have never happened… So you’ll take first action and become the violent oppressors yourself.

No Trump supporters that I’ve ever heard have absolved Trump of any crimes in advance. what you fail to see is that you are absolving your own party of actual crimes being committed…which is the point of getting cheap and easy labor like you to do the heavy lifting.

Thank God stronger minds are in the majority within our United States of America… To keep idiots like you from hurting themselves or others.

@Nathan Blue:

Trump enablers would still swear his innocence and even if not, they’d still support him-just as the GOP and you are doing here.

Notice how AJ keeps repeating this meme yet in #16 above, he defends Clinton committing perjury, witness intimidation and obstruction? According to him, that was all nothing; certainly nothing impeachable.

@Nathan Blue:

You and your enablers have rendered Trump as infallible and have been at his defense regardless of how incompetent and hideous he can be.

From exploding the deficit to caging children to sinking farmers (and then being a socialist by confiscating my money to hand to them) to denying climate change to his flip flopping on guns (saying to take guns prior to due process) to being a laughing stock on the world stage to lying about controlling lobbyist to lying about jailing Hillary to lying about Mexico paying for a wall to lying about infrastructure to just being an uncontrollable lair to surrounding himself with pedophiles to seating a pro-rape judge to a life term seat to seating incompetent judges to being a rabid racist to spending untold hours on his own golf course at our expense going into his pocket to the list is endless, you and yours have saluted him in Heil Hitler fashion, why would you change now.

In your eyes, Trump can do no wrong. So of course he’s innocent!

@Deplorable Me: How did AJ get out of his white huggy myself coat?
Drywall, wet laundry, and Jeffry Epstien Clintons pimp, 3 things that wont hang themselves.

@Ronald J. Ward:

You and your enablers have rendered Trump as infallible and have been at his defense regardless of how incompetent and hideous he can be.

You’ve never provided that impeachable offense with the proof. Why is that?

@Ronald J. Ward:

No point in debating you, AJ. You hate Trump and any rational, logical dialog with you is simply an impossibility. Your mind is so closed that nothing can ever penetrate it.

You excuse William Jefferson Clinton stating that what he did was simply “lying about getting sexual relief.” FYI, when you lie about anything, no matter the subject, while under oath it is called perjury and that is a criminal offense. You whine about “children in cages” that were built by Obama. You just can’t seem to find anything good or worthwhile in what Trump does. And of course, when all else fails, reference Hitler.

How sad it is you have such hatred in your heart.

@retire05:

In the realm of reasonable debate, my point is that the arguments of servers and such are all non sequiturs. They have no rationale in the deciding factors of Trumps innocence or guilt of bribery.

Yes, perjury is indeed a criminal offense (or, was until GWB pardoned Libby Scooter for the exact same thing) but in the scheme of “witch hunts” that wasn’t even what republicans were after but rather something that finally stuck to the wall. Agree? No? Would you still be defending that “criminal offense” if someday down the road democrats prove Kavanagh (R) lied? Did you with Scooter Libby? I recall crickets fron Rs. And for what it’s worth, I did not “excuse” WJC.

Many parallels with Trump and Hitler my friend. Or, he certainly has energized the support of the neo-nazi and white supremacist crowd. Just a fact.

@Ronald J. Ward:

In the realm of reasonable debate, my point is that the arguments of servers and such are all non sequiturs. They have no rationale in the deciding factors of Trumps innocence or guilt of bribery.

You don’t reside in that realm.

@Ronald J. Ward: In

your eyes, Trump can do no wrong. So of course he’s innocent!

Uh…I just said he can do wrong, Mr. Goebbels…but his competence has been proven. Your rejection of that is just partisan rhetoric.

Do you have a point or are you just going to enable the Dems?

I bet Adam Schiff could kill a baby and you’d still find a way to justify it…

@Nathan Blue:

Uh…I just said he can do wrong, Mr. Goebbels…but his competence has been proven. Your rejection of that is just partisan rhetoric.

Uh… that’s why he’s a liberal. He will only believe what his bigoted prejudices will allow. If he can’t find the things he WANTS to believe in the real world, he will just make it up, THEN believe it. Sadly, that is the same mentality of the Democrats in government as well and all that impeachment is based on.

I bet Adam Schiff could kill a baby and you’d still find a way to justify it…

Absolutely. Obama could lie about a gun running scheme that got an American and hundreds of Mexicans killed, and AJ (aka Ronald J. Ward) would still support him. Biden could grope children and AJ would still support him. Hillary could get 4 Americans killed and provide all our adversaries with all of State Department’s classified information and AJ would still support her. And on and on and on.