How Did Cheap Airline Travel to Europe Set the US and the World on the Road to Ruin?

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How Did Cheap Airline Travel to Europe Set the US and the World on the Road to Ruin?

It’s not a trick question. The reality is, many progressives want to turn the United States into Finland or Germany or Sweden or France or some other western European “paradise”. A few more years of Democrats in the White House and the rest of the government octopus they might succeed. Europe will have conquered the US without having fired a shot. The crazy thing Europe won’t have exported socialism to America… They didn’t have to. Why? Because Americans visited Europe and tried to create it when they got back home. Of course not everyone is interested in going quietly into that good socialist, statist night. Which is why the country is so divided today and on the edge of a calamity. And it’s the fault of cheap airfares!

Let me explain why airline travel is the cause of the United States slipping down a path that may someday lead to revolution. Prior to the 1970s travel to Europe was largely limited to the wealthy and members of the military and their families. It was possible to go, but it was a relatively expensive proposition and therefore relatively few people actually did it. It was when flying to Europe became financially feasible for those other than the richest Americans that the beginning of the end set in.

Let me explain. When prices dropped such that middle and middle upper class Americans were easily able to afford to visit Europe (western, mostly) they jumped at the chance. They visited Paris, London, Berlin, Amsterdam and hundreds of other towns and cities across the continent. And what they experienced there was amazing. The food: French bread, Italian pasta, Greek seafood. The history: They saw castles everywhere, many of which seemed to come straight out of a fairy tale. The lifestyles: From spending an evening unmolested sipping coffee in a French café to a languid evening in a Venetian gondola to walking through one of London’s countless parks, it was, in a word, wonderful. It seemed nothing short of spectacular. And indeed it was.

The problem is, what American tourists were experiencing in Europe was not the life most Europeans themselves were experiencing. To hear Americans talk about Europe, it’s nirvana. One month of vacation every year. Months of parental leave for both parents, lots of paid holidays, and of course “free” healthcare. Those things all sound wonderful but they leave a lot out. And those are the things these progressive American wannabe Europeans usually fail to notice or mention… Most Europeans live in tiny apartments or homes, usually without air conditioning, regardless of where they live. And as a result, most of the stuff in the home is small, like refrigerators, washers, and even beds. Many Europeans pay 50% or more of their incomes in taxes. Gasoline in Europe is usually around $8 a gallon and most Europeans drive around in cars that look like they could fit into a shoebox. Unemployment in many, if not most places in Europe is twice or more of what it is in the United States.

And there’s more… Starting a business is not necessarily impossible in Europe, but in many places it’s darn near close. Youth unemployment in particular is staggeringly high as governments set ever higher standards for firing employees who don’t work out… and therefore employers don’t take the chance and hire in the first place. National, regional and industry strikes frequently snarl traffic and interrupt life, often with little warning. And what’s more, European birthrates barely hover around half what is necessary to sustain their population!

And then there’s the sainted “Universal healthcare” that Americans constantly hear about. It is anything but heavenly. One need only spend a few minutes on the Internet to find out how bad Britain’s NHS service really is. French doctors are overworked and many hospitals are simply dysfunctional.

Of course, as in most societies, the rich Europeans don’t really have to deal with these problems. A few million Euros will buy anyone a nice big apartment in Paris and a car to match, plus a first class flight to New York to visit the Mayo Clinic if any real serious health issues arise.

Over the last four decades as air travel became financially feasible for the not quite rich to travel internationally, they did. The people we know today as the opinion makers, those in the media, academia, essentially the bi-coastal intelligencia and all of their college friends earning their liberal arts degrees, traveled to Europe and had a wonderful time. They experienced the life of the European elite and mistook it for the life of the everyday European. As such, they decided that they wanted to replicate that experience here in the United States. It’s like they spent a week getting wined and dined in Vegas and came home and decided that their town should have strippers and slot machines and free drinks on every corner. These intellectuals didn’t bother to realize that the Europe they visited had very little to do with the Europe that most Europeans actually experience.

As a frequent traveler to Europe and France in particular, I love Europe. If I had the resources I’d spend months each year in Paris or Cassis on the French coast or Rome or Naples or a dozen other places in Europe. But what I wouldn’t do is confuse that experience as a visitor with the life of everyday Europeans. Increasingly, those everyday Europeans are suffering ever more at the hands of the leviathan of government regulation and taxation. From high unemployment, low economic growth, poor services of all sorts and increasing limits of freedom of all kinds, the quality of the lives of everyday Europeans are slowly eroding, and statism and socialism are fundamentally the cause… and more and more the source is the EU itself.

Freedom and prosperity are not givens. They are not the natural state of man. They are gifts from our Founding Fathers and tenacious entrepreneurs and innovators and inventors… not to mention hard working men and women across the country. The more America comes to resemble Europe, the less freedom we will have, the less prosperity we will enjoy and eventually the United States will cease to be the shining city on a hill that has inspired and helped much of the world for the last century. Compare the world before the United States became the dominant economic and military power on the planet and the last half of the 20th century. The world is far from perfect today, but since WWII the United States has led the world in creating more prosperity – and lifted more people out of poverty – than over any similar period of time in human history. (One can only wonder how different the world would look if the Soviet Union or Red China had taken the lead…) It wasn’t socialism that fueled the world’s prosperity, it was freedom and free markets, both of which the American progressives seek to undermine when they seek to turn the United States into Europe.  A great cup of coffee and a perfect loaf of bread are wonderful things to have, but they aren’t worth destroying the American fount of freedom and the greatest economic engine in human history over.

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I no longer want to tour Europe, years ago to take a river cruise and see the castles and quaint european towns was appealing, the EU has fallen, not because of socialism, its a suicide pact with muslim refugees, that a good share are not really refugees but north african and middle eastern men of fighting age coming for the freebies. The are trashing the joint. Even US news crews are not safe unless with a police escort.

@kitt: You were right—We’ve cruised The Danube–seen and visited the castles–stayed in the great cities and small villages of Europe—travelled through The Greek Isles and walked in the footsteps of Aristotle, Plato and Socrates,. Magnificent experiences shared with my wife. We are not through. We found Europe perfectly safe–Africa as well-travelled with Gate One most of the time.
Kitt—Go if you can–you will not regret it Richard.

Back to the returns–it looks close–either way the Dems win–I hope for Alabama’s sake that Jones wins

@kitt:
I agree with Rich – Go if you can.
Just read the advisories on where to not go while you’re there.
I spent eleven years there with my family while in the Army, living on the economy, and loved most of it. Traveled all over Europe, even East Berlin, in a car and on a motorcycle. Wonderful place and time (1970’s-1980’s)
But the average European didn’t live in anywhere the comfort we did, paid far too much in taxes, and the government was far too intrusive.
A good hint of the different societies is the traffic signage:
In America, street signs tell us what we cannot do – Only what the government specifically forbids us, can we not do.
In Europe, street signs tell them what they can do – Only what the government specifically allows them, can they do.
That attitude is pervasive in their society, everything is forbidden without government permission.
No, thanks. Don’t want that here.

10:10 EST This looks like a dead heat with both ending around 49.3%. 23% STILL TO BE COUNTED.

10:35 JONES WINS going away My opinion of Alabamans has risen dramatically.
What will DT say?

@Petercat: The 70s the 80s no more perhaps eastern Europe. My sister in law is from England she says no problems at all from the Pakis, but they were not running London or Paris then either.
There are wonderful places to see here in the States, I loved the Caribbean, there is always the far east, even Russia. I want a vacation to relax and not have my head on a swivel.
Moores done it was close but it looks like the Rinos won.

“The Arc Of The Moral Universe Is Long But It Bends Towards Justice.” MLK quoted by Doug Jones in victory speech.
Thank you Alabama

@rich wheeler: I think you are right eventually we will have a universal ID voter law. The AP called the race but still 25K votes to count there could yet be a surprise. Just another reason to repeal the 17th the Alabama legislature would not have chosen either of these guys.

@kitt: #5
You are absolutely right, my own world-traveling days are over. By Spring, I will have converted my Sportster into a Tourster and will embark on a backroad trip through the Appalachians and the Smoky Mountains. Should take a couple of weeks to a month, but then, I’m retired and have the time.
I’ll just have to accumulate a big buffer for my webcomic, photos of the trip will be posted there.
Lots of beauty in the USA that I haven’t seen yet, or haven’t seen enough of.
Just have to avoid cities and interstates, and states that won’t honor my weapons permit.
I refuse to be helpless.

@rich wheeler:

We found Europe perfectly safe–Africa as well-

You never told me if Africa still stinks as badly as it used to. When I was there, basically had to keep a fragrance handy to kill the smell. They didn’t try to export you as a slave, did they?

@kitt: Moore would have us without anything after the 10th—no votes by women or Blacks–this guy actually said life was better during slavery–he deserved to lose.

@rich wheeler: Hey Rich, it’s now after week 5, which team did Klapperdink sign with? I never did hear. Seats on the 50 yard line in some games going for $3. NFL is headed to death row.

@RedteamWelcome back : NFL doing fine but I’m a college fan.
ND VS LSU in Citrus should be good.

Africa was OUTSTANDING—

How bout Jones pulling the upset in Alabama.

@rich wheeler: Moores one seat wasn’t about to amend the constitution just as DTs election didnt and wont. All states rights were damaged by the 17th, those in rural areas have little to no representation, and a rogue Senator much harder to remove as people pay little attention to the damage to their State a vote in the senate can cause, many become stinking rich with insider investing. Its become mob rule by large cities, we can see how decayed many of our big cities are.

@Petercat: A drive around Lake Michigan start on the Michigan side and then through Wisconsin save best for last, hit our tourist trap the Dells, or up to lake Superior, wont run into anyone wanting to shoot you as a revenuer on our back roads lol, Hint Rustic road means exactly what it says, not for roadsters 🙂 no gas stations, and restroom may be shared with wildlife.
, BYO TP.

@kitt:

Moores one seat wasn’t about to amend the constitution

That’s true but why would one want to even consider allowing someone with that mindset to have a Senate seat? It must be something like, well, what’s 1 child molester anyway? Perhaps Charles Manson would have been acceptable because hell, what can just 1 murderer do? Electing just 1 Nazi surely wouldn’t bring the U.S. to another Holocaust but that reasoning should be disturbing to anyone.

It’s a good thing that even in ruby red Alabama a child molesting republican can’t beat a democrat who imprisons murderers of young toddlers- even if they were black.

For you travelers, might want to check those bag prices as Trump recently signed an EO saying airlines no longer had to disclose those hidden cost, making it hard or impossible to know what that actual ticket price is. I’m sure you missed that on Hannity just as you likely missed the EO about how it is no longer illegal for financial institutions to INTENTIONALLY con you with bad info or that individuals can no longer band together to hire a law firm to represent them should a bank steal their money.

Just wanted to toss a traveling tip that you may not of learned of from where you acquire your news.

@Ajay42302: You begin with a false premise, he did not have a child molestor mind set, he dated young women 40 years ago and not after he was married, not 1 said intercourse happened. While the libs want EU style government less than 40 years ago 14 was legal age of consent there. More than willing to allow a child of 12 an abortion without parental knowledge.
Dont give me your double standard bull.
I am sure you are a seasoned traveler, If I travel it will be in the States in my own vehicle hoping they pass universal CAC so I can protect myself everywhere legally.
As far as the banks go I deal with a Credit Union I am mortgage free and intend to stay that way. I pay my credit cards off every month and enjoy getting cash back rewards not paying any interest, I am known in the credit card industry as a dead beat, cause I use them.

@rich wheeler:

Welcome back : NFL doing fine but I’m a college fan.

Welcome back? you were gone so long I figured you got upset because you were so wrong about Klapperdink. And if you look at the crowd numbers, most are college fans, NFL crowds have kinda gone to pot.

Africa was OUTSTANDING—

some people don’t go for that ‘giant pottie’ smell. Camel dung and elephant dung prevailing everywhere. Take your fragrance with you if you’re not a dung smell lover.

While the Dims are all tore up over Moore supposedly dating 18-20 year old women, you’d think they would agree that the 18+ year old women have a right to date whomever they choose. Now Dougie Jones is okay with killing babies until after they’re delivered, as long as the umbilical cord hasn’t been cut yet. So seems as if the dems don’t want 18 yr old women to have rights or 10 minute old babies to have the right to life. It’s hard to find that kind of morality in most of the south, it’s hard to believe the Dims in Alabama were able to scare one up in time to run.

@kitt: In the first place, Kitt, HooJay was posting under the wrong name, it was Tuesday so he was supposed to use TueJay42302, it gets confused sometimes and can’t keep it’s correct name figured out. I can’t figure why the Dims suddenly think that it’s not ok for an 18 year old to have sex if they so desire. But, as you said in this case, not one single woman or ‘girl’ has said that any sex was involved. So with the Dims, it’s okay for two teenage boys or two teenage girls to have sex, but not a boy and girl. I just love these suddenly found standards of the Dims who thought it was all part of the game for Slick Willie to have raped several women, to play sex games in the oval office with his intern and stogies. And I don’t even think they have any problems with Slick taking his regular Epstein Lolita Flights. I strongly expect this sudden surge of morals will not continue now that they served their purpose. Franken is still in the Senate, isn’t he?

@Redteam: I really think Franken isn’t going anywhere.
Bill O’Riley says there is a tape offering a woman 200K to accuse Trump, we shall see.
AJ is typical they hate when you point out their twisted inane ideology.
I dont know how to deprogram the liberal mind, they never question their sources, the media flashing pictures and telling them what they see in patterns akin to frequencies, repeating every 15 to 30 minutes, a different announcer same crises same flashing.
If you think we are not treated the same way The CEO of fox used pretty girls, he is dead now and his liberal sons now in charge.
What can you do its the formula.

@kitt:

Bill O’Riley says there is a tape offering a woman 200K to accuse Trump, we shall see.
AJ is typical they hate when you point out their twisted inane ideology.

Yes, I read that about O’Reilly having the tape. I hope he keeps it under wrap until the Dims make their move then he unveils it to show their criminal collusion.
I think the Democrats should change their name to ‘Double standard’. I think you’re right about Franken, it was just a ploy to fool someone. I still have not heard that Moore actually had sex with anyone, much less a teen age girl, but that doesn’t seem to matter to the “I love Slick” crowd.

@Redteam: NFL attendance down 1% so far in 2017–College is up- much better game.

Moore accuser Beverly Nelson was 16—accuser Leigh Corfman was 14 .

Is groping kids OK in La.? Knuckle dragger Moore’s a Bible thumping homophobe who thinks we were better off under slavery and dislikes ALL amendments beyond the 10th–women and Blacks shouldn’t have voting rights.

Won’t concede–says God will straighten it out lol–real piece of work this character.

RE Africa—you musta missed The Serengetti—Clear air beautiful sunsets.

Kitt–you were right about RT

@rich wheeler:

Moore accuser Beverly Nelson was 16—accuser Leigh Corfman was 14 .

A Forger and a serial accuser I would love to see them hang in there and get questioned under cross examination.
The Forger needs a little jail time, her “story” doesnt hold water.
Until then the Judge is innocent.

@kitt: Did you listen to this guy? He would have lost even without the girls accusations.
Alabamians rejected him as they had done at least twice in the past–good for them–joining the 21st Century.

BTW Russia, like Europe, a great visit. You feel you gotta be armed driving around the U.S.A??-That’s safer than Europe?

@rich wheeler:

Is groping kids OK in La.?

In Alabama, they can get married at 14. When did ‘groping’ become a crime? If that’s a crime, every boy in the US would be in jail.

NFL attendance down 1% so far in 2017

Didn’t you say, just above, that you weren’t keeping up with NFL? Look, when a photo is taken in the middle of the 2nd quarter and about 2/3 of the seats are empty and the ‘reported attendance’ is 102%, it kinda makes you wonder if they went to Notre Dame for their math studies. One of my nieces went to a Jags game a couple weeks ago and said the stadium was almost empty and the reported attendance was over 100%. Wanna bet someone is lying or there are a lot more Notre Dame alumni out there than we thought. What they’re doing, of course, is counting sold tickets as attendance, when the tickets are season tickets bought by some company and given out to customers that don’t show up for the games. Fox Sports is offering people to be paid to attend games so their pregame shows have more credibility. Those thugs need to enjoy these big contracts because I suspect they will get fewer and further between. Look at the ticket resellers just before a game. You can buy tickets, lower level 50 yard line for 3 or 4 $. That sound like they’re over 100%?

RE Africa—you musta missed The Serengetti—Clear air beautiful sunsets.

Didn’t say it wasn’t ‘clear air’ or beautiful sunsets, said it smells like an outhouse for elephants with no ventilation. Maybe your smelling apparatus just wasn’t working while you were there.

Just listened to Doug Jones answering reporters questions. This guy is impressive–smart ,cordial. Easy to see how he beat Moore.

RT Actually you were the guy who said he had no interest in NFL–NOT ME.
I follow it—ChargerS and Lions fan–Much prefer watching ND vs LSU or Clemson vs Alabama.

Where I come from adult males not supposed to grope 14-16 year old girls–not so in La.?

Message to Moore—God says you lost–graciously concede and go home.

@Redteam:

In Alabama, they can get married at 14.

Maybe so but I think the intent was that folks just married young rather than those grade school goodies being at the disposal of older prominent attorneys prancing around in their whitie tighties.

When did ‘groping’ become a crime?

“Groping” is defined as touching or fondling of another person in a sexual way without his/hers permission. By definition, that constitutes sexual assault. Sexual assault is a crime in most all states that I’m aware of. One wouldn’t think that this was even arguable but considering the rather unhinged and delusional environment of FA, well, enough said.

I’m not all that knowledgeable on Alabama law or the dates of enactment so maybe there’s more to your question than the ignorance it implies.

@rich wheeler: Yes you cant carry at all in EU or UK who are hiding all the incidences, hate speech you know.
Moore was voted in by the people and unseated by federal pressure too bad we cant do the same to liberals that defy federal laws.
Message to Moore recount by hand Jill Stein would want it that way.
96% of dem voters and only 50% republican showing up sounds fishy.
Especially when forgery was revealed days before the vote.

@kitt: As Deplorable Bill—where is he–would say–stop whining and crying and making excuses. Your judge got beat–understandably–by a better candidate.

Why the hell would intelligent Repubs–yes there are some–vote for Moore??
BTW Exit polls showed majority of college educated Repub. women voted for Jones.

@rich wheeler:

-That’s safer than Europe?

Rich you don’t actually think Europe is safer than the US do you? Germans won’t go outside their homes. Londoners are afraid to go downtown. Muslims are pretty much running Europe now. Carrying a gun likely wouldn’t do any good over there unless it were a 50 round machine gun. The people no longer need to go out much anyhow.. The economy over there is atrocious. No one has any money for entertainment They mostly stay home in their dinky little old homes. The author of the story at the top of this thread has it just about right.

@rich wheeler:

Why the hell would intelligent Repubs–yes there are some–vote for Moore??

Would you put that question along in the same category as “why in the hell would ANYONE WITH A BRAIN vote for Bill or Hillary Clinton?” Hillary, alone, has had more people assassinated than Moore has groped. One more, just this week.

@rich wheeler:

RT Actually you were the guy who said he had no interest in NFL–NOT ME.

I realize your mind might have gone to hell, but in 12 above you said:

NFL doing fine but I’m a college fan.

Doug Jones answering reporters questions. This guy is impressive–smart ,cordial.

Oh my, and I guess you were really impressed when he said he was for murdering babies up until they’re placed in their mother’s arms. I can’t even imagine a human saying that and I sure can’t imagine someone admiring someone that says that. But, then, there are libs in the world.

Where I come from adult males not supposed to grope 14-16 year old girls–not so in La.?

Why don’t you check with Slick on that? That’s his forte’.. Only he goes much further than that. Surely you’re not as naive as Hillary, thinking Slick is only taking those Lolita Express flights just to go somewhere. I’ll bet it has something to do with those ‘very young’ girls that are on there for his pleasure. And I’ll bet you had absolutely no problem voting for him. Ole Double standard Rich.

@Wedjay42302:def of groping: “feel or fondle (someone) for sexual pleasure, especially against their will.” you said:

““Groping” is defined as touching or fondling of another person in a sexual way without his/hers permission.

see any difference? there is actually quite a difference. A girl certainly can be groped, even if she wants to be groped. Many women go in to get a massage so they can be groped, with their permission.

One wouldn’t think that this was even arguable

Now, Wedjay, I don’t know whether you a male or a female, but I’m going to say that if you have had sexual relations with another person, there was some groping going on. If there wasn’t, then it would have been a very benign sexual encounter and one or the other would have been looking somewhere else for some more sexual action. Nope, sexual assault is illegal, groping is not.

@rich wheeler:

BTW Exit polls showed majority of college educated Repub. women voted for Jones.

I am shocked lol they also think the 1st amendment should be repealed.
I hope they can payback thier student loans working for Krusty burger.

@Redteam:

Aside from whatever in the hell it is that you’re trying to articulate in your hair splitting definition of groping, let’s look back at your question that I responded to: “When did ‘groping’ become a crime?”

Obviously, it’s understood that “groping” for the stair handrail in the darkness is no crime. It’s also understood as you imply, that consensual sexual groping is not a crime.

But those scenarios simply don’y apply to that of your admitted vagina grabber in chief or the whitie tightie clad stalker of teenage babytsitters who went down in flames last night.

@Redteam: These girls claim they were groped against their will–by definition that’s sexual assault–add to that they were minors.

Kitt Educated Repub women “want 1st Amendment repealed.???explain

Realize you both believe in home schooling–Donald brags about his Ivy League education.

@Wedjay42302:

But those scenarios simply don’y apply to that of your admitted vagina grabber in chief

I will award you first prize if you can provide any proof that Trump is an ‘admitted vagina grabber in chief”. A link to an actual quote of him saying that he personally had done that.

or the whitie tightie clad stalker of teenage babytsitters

and, I will award you the Grand Prize for proof that Roy Moore ever was a ‘stalker of teenage babytsitters(sic)”

@Wedjay42302:

But those scenarios simply don’y apply to that of your admitted vagina grabber in chief

I will award you first prize if you can provide any proof that Trump is an ‘admitted vagina grabber in chief”. A link to an actual quote of him saying that he personally had done that.

or the whitie tightie clad stalker of teenage babytsitters

and, I will award you the Grand Prize for proof that Roy Moore ever was a ‘stalker of teenage babytsitters(sic)” Let me ask you the question: Why would Roy Moore ever admit to being a ‘stalker’ and exactly who, has ever accused him of being a stalker? WedJay, if you want to be taken seriously, I think you should ask honest questions and give ‘accurate’ quotes. Off the cuff, made up lies don’t cut it.

@Redteam: You Trumpeteers listen to that Access Hollywood tape and hear something different than what the large majority of listeners hear.
Now after admitting and apologizing for what he said Trump is claiming it wasn’t him lol.
Trump also claims he always thought Moore was gonna lose–he’s been on the losing side of his last 3 picks—Bannon also a loser.

Think everyone can agree Moore was a badly flawed candidate—hell you gotta be to lose to a Dem. in Alabama.

@rich wheeler:

These girls claim they were groped against their will–by definition that’s sexual assault–add to that they were minors.

Rich, read that sentence and analyze how dumb it is. Legally a ‘claim’ is not ‘by definition’ a sexual assault. A ‘sexual assault’ by definiton is a ‘sexual assault’. If anyone is claiming actual sexual assault, what proof of it are they saying they have. Do you suppose the statute of limitations might have expired. Is Roy Moore guilty of any crime that you are aware of? If so, provide your info on his conviction.

Realize you both believe in home schooling–Donald brags about his Ivy League education.

So? you have a problem with home schooling or Ivy League Education? I do realize you’ve asked for a complete refund of your tuition, but most people get something from it.

@Redteam: What kind of tap dance you doing RT??
What the girls claim is that he sexually assaulted them.—there is no statute of limitations on sexual assault in Alabama–he’s innocent till proven guilty.
Would appear majority of voters believed the girl’s claims.

Anyway Moore should concede and go home.—God ain’t gonna change the results Roy.

Kitt You weren’t kidding about RT’S return from hibernation—as ornery as ever-just like dt
How bout queing up a throwback Thurs.video

@rich wheeler: –

he’s been on the losing side of his last 3 picks

I realize you’re trying to be funny, but Trump hasn’t been on the losing side of any ‘picks’. He didn’t ‘pick’ Moore for his candidate? He didn’t pick either of the other 2 candidates. He was just pulling for the good side to win and unfortunately the devil prevailed. (I define a politician that supports killing babies until the umbilical cord is cut to be the devil).
Let me help you out, Rich, here is the quote from the bus:

“Trump, during the 2016 presidential campaign, owned up to his bragging, but dismissed it as mere “locker room banter.” His comments were captured on tape as he talked in 2005 with “Access Hollywood” host Billy Bush. “When you’re a star … you can do anything … grab them by the pussy,” Trump said.”

now, lift out the words in that quote where Trump said that he, Trump, had grabbed a woman by the pussy. I don’t see where he said that he is a ‘star’ and had done that. If you weren’t so anxious to attribute the worst scenario on someone just because his political beliefs are different from yours, then maybe it wouldn’t be so hard to tell the truth. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/access-hollywood-trump-tape_us_5a1cf253e4b0e2ddcbb23733

@rich wheeler:

What kind of tap dance you doing RT??
What the girls claim is that he sexually assaulted them

You’re at it again, asserting that a claim is a crime. A claim is a claim.
While there is no SOL on criminal charges for violent(which has not been alleged)sexual assault, there is a SOL of two years for civil claims. No prosecutor would ever attempt a criminal charge of violent sexual assault based solely on her word. She, in fact, has never claimed there was anything violent about anything that happened. I’m not the one tap dancing. He can’t be convicted based on a majority of voters. I was never in hibernation. You were gone for quite a while and just came back. Without you, not many comments are necessary.

@rich wheeler: You missed sparring with RT, I missed u 2 sparring lol. Rich do you even know what day this is, I have to look for a wayback Wednesday (shame on you RT for missing that one 😉
One 4 cheap travel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc-7SnMnX78

@Redteam: He backed Gillespie in Va-lost Strange in Alabama– lost Moore in Alabama– lost–3 in row more to follow.
You and Trump seem to have your own unique definition of Truth–good luck with that. The large majority of Americans believe DT is a serial liar as seen in his consistent mid 30″S approval rating.

They don’t know you well enough..

BTW Never said a claim is a crime. SAID innocent till proven guilty. also said majority believe the girls claims as evidenced in his defeat—though I personally believe he is so flawed he would have lost anyway.

Kitt I was giving you an advanced heads up for Tomorrow get one ready for much needed comic relief Thanks Thanks for PP&M GOOD MEMORIES

@Redteam:

Two points on your nonsense.

1) This so-called “award” you say you’ll grant me contingent I play your asinine game, how possibly would that be beneficial to me in any reasonable fashion?

2) Much like your serial lying con man/sexual assaulting egomaniac in chief, you too are no more than a goddamn liar as you have not only proven on multiple occasion but are guilty by the very association of the FA slime you advocate for.

So again with the understanding there’s no thread of honesty, decency, or even relevance in anything protruded from you, what precisely is it that you are trying to argue?

@rich wheeler: This one reminds me of coming into O’hare from PR during snowstorm

Only time I was startled when flying.

@rich wheeler:

He backed Gillespie in Va-lost Strange in Alabama– lost Moore in Alabama– lost–3 in row more to follow.

You forgot what you said: ” he’s been on the losing side of his last 3 picks” my point was, he didn’t make any of those picks, someone else did.

What the girls claim is that he sexually assaulted them

You weren’t talking about their ‘claim’? you couldn’t have been talking about a sexual assault because their has been no proof there was one. Figment of imagination? perhaps?

@Thujay42302:

1) This so-called “award” you say you’ll grant me contingent I play your asinine game, how possibly would that be beneficial to me in any reasonable fashion?

What? Perhaps I give you too much credit.

Much like your serial lying con man/sexual assaulting egomaniac in chief, you too are no more than a goddamn liar

Gee, ThuJay, if you keep up that language, your kiddiegarten teacher is not going to give you a passing grade. However, just to give you an opportunity to prove that you do deserve to graduate kiddiegarten, if you can come up with just ‘one’ lie that you could prove on me, I will try to get your kiddiegarten teacher to fudge a little and give you a passing grade. Just one.

what precisely is it that you are trying to argue?

Just as I was saying, you were lost before you started. It might take more effort to convince that kiddiegarten teacher than I was thinking. I might have to get Rich to put in a good word for you also.