If not for obama and hillary, ISIS would be about finished today

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He warned them. He said the Jihadis would take over if they took him out:

Muammar Gaddafi warned Tony Blair in two fraught phone conversations in 2011 that his removal from the Libyan leadership would open a space for al-Qaida to seize control of the country and even launch an invasion of Europe.

The transcripts of the conversations have been published with Blair’s agreement by the UK foreign affairs select committee, which is conducting an inquiry into the western air campaign that led to the ousting and killing of Gaddafi in October 2011.

In the two calls the former British prime minister pleaded with Gaddafi to stand aside or end the violence. The transcripts reveal the gulf in understanding between Gaddafi and the west over what was occurring in his country and the nature of the threat he was facing.

Muammar Gaddafi warned Tony Blair in two fraught phone conversations in 2011 that his removal from the Libyan leadership would open a space for al-Qaida to seize control of the country and even launch an invasion of Europe.

Gaddafi was in a box. He was under control. He was fighting the Islamists.

In the first call, at 11.15am on 25 February 2011, Gaddafi gave a warning in part borne out by future events: “They [jihadis] want to control the Mediterranean and then they will attack Europe.”

In the second call, at 3.25pm the same day, the Libyan leader said: “We are not fighting them, they are attacking us. I want to tell you the truth. It is not a difficult situation at all. The story is simply this: an organisation has laid down sleeping cells in north Africa. Called the al-Qaida organisation in north Africa … The sleeping cells in Libya are similar to dormant cells in America before 9/11.”

That wasn’t good enough.

barack obama, with hillary’s full support, toppled the Gaddafi regime. obama, ever the perennial liar, first claimed regime change was not the goal.

U.S. insists “we’re not hunting Qaddafi”

U.S.: Gaddafi not target of allied military action

Obama also said ISIS was about finished.

He also said the Taliban was decimated.

hillary clinton found the death of Moammar Gaddafi quite amusing:

Proving that they learned absolutely nothing from Iraq, they knocked over a regime and had no plans for the aftermath. obama admitted that was his biggest mistake, although he was one of the only two people on Earth who didn’t know it was a yuge mistake at the time.

As they say, actions have consequences. That colossal screw-up has created a safe place- for ISIS. Donald Trump is getting done something barack obama never could do- put us on path to wipe out ISIS. It would be done much sooner if not for obama and hillary clinton’s establishing a new playground for ISIS.

As the Islamic State terror network loses territory across Iraq and Syria, analysts and experts assert that the terrorist outfit is increasingly capitalizing on the chaos of Libya, positioning the country as its point of resurgence.

The black-clad jihadist outfit is believed to be regrouping and recruiting in the rural regions south of the main east-to-west coastal highway and in the far-west town of Sabratha, which is poised just 60 miles from the Tunisian border, since being run out of its Libyan “caliphate” capital of Sirte late last year.

“The majority of their fighting force comes from Tunisia, so Sabratha is also a growing center,” prominent terrorism analyst Robert Young Pelton told Fox News. “ISIS in Libya can regenerate quickly.”

Col. Ahmed Almesmari, spokesperson for the self-styled Libyan National Army (LNA), told Fox News that ISIS first appeared in Libya at the end of 2013, even before its dominance in Iraq, borne out of “Muslim Brotherhood-affiliated militias” and Al Qaeda dissidents in Libya’s eastern port city of Derna near the Egyptian border.

And those attacks in Europe? Guess where the attackers were trained?

Manchester attacker Salman Abedi returned from Libya just days before he killed 22 people in the deadliest attack in Britain since 7/7, friends have revealed.

Up to 6,000 ISIS fighters are currently thought to operate out of dozens of camps around the country, which has become a popular destination for foreign radicals because it is easier to get into than Syria or Iraq.

The African nation has been a hotbed of ISIS activity since at least 2014, and while it is not known if Abedi was trained there, Sousse beach attacker Seifeddine Rezgui did visit Libyan camps before carrying out his own massacre in 2015.

Anis Amri, the Berlin truck attacker, is also thought to have had contact with people in training camps in Libya before his killing spree, though it is not clear if he actually went to the country.

Libya’s coast, located just across the Mediterranean from Italy, also provides the ideal staging point for attackers to be sent into Europe to carry out atrocities.

Jihadis capable of training such attackers have been flooding to Libya from Iraq and Syria as their stronghold of Mosul in Iraq falls to government troops, and their de-facto capital of Raqqa comes under threat.

American security services have been warning of the threat since ISIS first emerged in Libya, back in 2014, saying there were ‘several hundreds’ fighters entering training camps there at the time.

Initially, obama had no strategy for ISIS. In the end, he and hillary clinton had a terrible one that has lengthened the life of of a horrific organization.

 

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Obama supported the Muslim Brotherhood throughout the region as they destabilized government after government. A long, drawn out war with the most vicious terrorists of all time is Obama’s legacy.

Obama and Hillary supported the disarming of all law abiding american gun owners Obama released convicts and crinimals and he rubbed elbows with ISIS and the Muslim Broterhood they both need to get life in prison or even longer

Remember the “Arab Spring”? Or as Mel Brooks might call it, “Springtime for ISIS”.

Still doing the smokescreen/juggling act to steer away from the disastrous freak show of groper in chief I see.

I can understand you guys still deranged over the black guy while ignoring the obstructive and sabotaging opposition party he dealt with but isn’t beating the dead Hillary horse kinda grasping? I mean, on this ISIS issue, wasn’t she sorta like, not President?

On a lighter note, so I heard this joke today. Stop me if you’ve heard it. So, the Boy Scout leaders call Trump to thank him……………..

Let’s all stay tuned to Fox News to catch their latest marching orders from Trump. Might be bigger than Seth Rich story. Who knows what they’ll create as truthful news?

In the meantime dr john, please continue to entertain us with that trained seal act you do so well at and we’ll watch the fish thown to your Bills and Spewing Plovers who ork in unison.

DrJohn,

Gaddafi was in a box. He was under control. He was fighting the Islamists.

IMHO, this was one of the most disastrous actions taken by the Obama Admin., perhaps only out-done by the deal guaranteeing a path to Nuclear armament to the Iranian fundamentalists – typical of incapable idiots kicking a toxic can down the road a few years.

Clinton was intended to be the “next” President. For that she needed a “show” of “look at me, I can be militarily tough.”

Libya seemed, to the simple-minded Clinton/Blair/Sarcozy/Obama bunch, to be a perfect, easy, weak target, and Qaddafi appeared the perfect lunatic that no one in America or Europe would shed tears over if he was assassinated.

These clueless twits launched a war to decapitate Libya. Then, as you point out, they thought it was funny. Yah, hilarious.

65,000,000 refugees fit the long-term Obama plan perfectly – on the way to weakening America and redistributing its cash to Africa and S.E. Asia via genius programs like Cap and Trade, or the so called “Paris Accord”, he handed Western Europe a time bomb.

He knew it, you knew it, I knew it, most here on FA knew it, but his trolls and sycophants continue the seal clapping.

@Ajay42302: Speaking lame distractions….

Actually, the story is about the gigantic and dangerous mess Obama and Hillary made and left. You should pay attention a bit more.

@Deplorable Me:
Flap your fins and catch.

@Ajay42302: Nothing intelligent to offer… again… as usual. Why don’t you move to Venezuela where you can truly enjoy socialism?

@Ajay42302:
Ajay is a troll. Like Greg, only less intelligent. He lives to get a response. I would try to ignore him. Your life will be better and happier for it. Trump is fixing the mess left by the leftists previously in charge. Just be glad for that.

The Smoke and Mirrors from the Fake News Network and the talking heads of NBC,ABC and CBS

Had we had Stormin’ Norman or one of his type, unfettered by Obamas ridiculous rules of engagement. Kick ass tip your hat and get out. No rebuilding, it was already too expensive to bomb the crap out of them.
The Clintons and Bush have already shown how they rebuild countries with the example of Haiti.
As with Lybia, I have no idea why we are messing with Syria, seems these countries pose no threat to the USA until a democrat arms them with nukes.

If not for obama and hillary, ISIS would be about finished today

Would that be the same Barack Obama who committed U.S. forces to Operation Inherent Resolve, a sustained international military action against ISIS, despite the republican-controlled House’s refusal to allow debate or take a vote on his request for authorization to do so? Those bozos spent the next 2 years criticizing Obama for doing nothing about ISIS, while pretending that Operation Inherent Resolve didn’t even exist. An unstated corollary that necessarily followed was that all efforts taken by the U.S. military against ISIS targets in support of coalition forces were totally irrelevant, accomplishing nothing. (Thank you for your service. Yeah, right.)

The Trump administration is now pitching a tale that the decimation of ISIS, which has only come after years of effort, is somehow the result of a few months of their own new and improved strategy—a thing which has somehow never once been clearly articulated. The Operation Inherent Resolve website documents a very different story—one that didn’t begin in January 2017.

Very impressive. The Trump Administration has also fixed the economy—which, in fact, was doing quite well already. The phony low unemployment figures have now become meaningful! And to think, this was accomplished without actually making any legislative changes!

@Greg: The AUOF was always there. But, of course, the main point remains… were it not for Obama and his monumental arrogance and stupidity, there would have BEEN no ISIS to beat down, would there?

To fix the economy, all that was needed was the exit of Obama and the elimination of his hundreds of growth-killing regulations. Just like all that was needed to cut illegal immigration by 70% was for Obama to be gone and replaced with someone that actually has respect for the law and our national security.

@Bill… Deplorable Me, #13:

The AUOF was always there. But, of course, the main point remains… were it not for Obama and his monumental arrogance and stupidity, there would have BEEN no ISIS to beat down, would there?

The main point is the same load of right wing horse manure that they’ve previously attempted to deliver.

ISIS moved into Iraq following its initial appearance in Syria because our unnecessary invasion of Iraq had created a power vacuum there. We dismantled Saddam’s military leadership structure, dispersed their experienced forces, and replaced the whole thing top to bottom with amateurs. We backed a sectarian Iraqi leader that further marginalized them, and they predictably took their training and skills to ISIS.

We should have left Iraq as a foil against Iran, and focused our full attention on al Qaeda, Afghanistan, and the Taliban. One could criticize that as Monday morning quarterbacking, had our intelligence community not noted the danger and predicted some similar outcome months before the invasion of Iraq had started.

To fix the economy, all that was needed was the exit of Obama and the elimination of his hundreds of growth-killing regulations.

Trump didn’t fix the economy because it wasn’t actually broken. The national economy as a whole recovered from recession, and has continued on the same slowly improving course that was well established by the time Obama began his second term. The problem isn’t the economy as a whole; it’s geographical regions and job categories that haven’t adjusted to fundamental economic changes that result from global industrialization and technological advancement.

@Greg:

ISIS moved into Iraq following its initial appearance in Syria because our unnecessary invasion of Iraq had created a power vacuum there.

Nope. WRONG. There was no power vacuum there… until Obama pulled all US troops out… against ALL advice and council. But, Obama always knows best, doesn’t he?

Intelligence showed Hussein was cooperating with and exporting terrorism and he had WMD’s. Though inaccurate, EVERYONE believed it… it was the best information we had. So, continued bellyaching about going into Iraq is an indictment on the Clinton’s and every other ranking Democrat as well as Bush.

But, Iraq was secured and, as long as we maintained security until the Iraqis were properly trained, stable. Obama, against all logic, upended all that and ISIS grew out of that. Obama; Obama and his arrogant disregard for any other advice. His primary concern was some headlines to bolster his faltering campaign.

Trump didn’t fix the economy because it wasn’t actually broken. The national economy as a whole recovered from recession, and has continued on the same slowly improving course that was well established by the time Obama began his second term.

True, it wasn’t broken. Everything was in place for a explosive recovery. Only, Obama wanted Obamacare. Obama wanted to kill the coal industry. Obama wanted to reward his green energy campaign contributors. Obama wanted to impede fracking and the energy industry. The only thing wrong with the economy was Obama was controlling it. Once he was gone and businesses saw the hope of capitalism returning, growth went from 1% to 2.6%. Not only is unemployment down, but labor participation is once again rising.

@Greg: I savor the moment when a liberal gives up on their weak propaganda and surrender. You’ve pleased me.

never forget that the slug ex pres was a radicalized muslin terrorist

Muslin is a type of plainly woven cotton cloth.

@Greg: You need to forgive Mos its a habit (changing a letter) that has been developed to prevent being banned on liberal run social media sites. 1 wrong word and poof your gone. Facebook, twitter, reddit, hell google is so twisted people who are aware dont use it. There are search engines that dont track your every movement and dont slant searches or spam you with ads based on a one off search.