The left learns nothing…and the losing continues

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Yup. You read that right. The guy, who doesn’t even live in the district he wanted to represent, spends tens of millions of dollars (and lots of money from the abortion factory known as Planned Parenthood) and then complains about outside money coming in.

Hypocrisy. I especially enjoy the fact that the Democrats made this election into a referendum on Trump, until they lost once again. But David Harsanyi asks “What If Donald Trump Doesn’t Sink The Republican Party?”

What if Republican voters who don’t particularly like Donald Trump are also able to compartmentalize their votes? What if they dislike Democrats more than they do the president? What if, rather than being punished for Trump’s unpopularity, local candidates are rewarded for their moderation? This, of course, would be a disaster for Democrats. And Tuesday’s run-off election in Georgia’s sixth district shows that it might be possible.

Now, had Jon Ossoff pulled it out against Karen Handel, the coverage would have painted this as a game-changing moment, a referendum on conservatism itself, a harbinger of a coming liberal wave, and a rejection of Trump’s disastrous presidency. It would have illustrated that Democrats had figured out how to flip those suburban and affluent Republicans who weren’t crazy about the president.

…You can try and grasp at moral victories, of course, as I saw a number of liberal pundits on cable television trying to do yesterday. You can tell yourself that Ossoff had come closer than any Democrat ever in the sixth district. But there are numerous problems with this optimism. For one, there won’t be many red districts were the president is less popular. Democrats are going to have to flip some of these seats to win back a majority. Second, it’s difficult to imagine how the environment could be any worse for the GOP (though, of course, that too is possible.) Moreover, Ossoff spent a record $25 million on a House race, yet Handel still outran not only him but Trump, as well.

This last point is mentioned as often as the others, yet it’s probably the most important. Trump’s approval rating in the sixth district is at the national average of 35 percent, which is to say exceptionally low for a Republican area. Trump had won the district by less than two percentage points back in November. According to a recent Atlanta Journal Constitution poll, the majority of Republicans surveyed (55 percent) said “expressing their opinion on Trump wasn’t a factor in their decision-making.”

…As high as Trump’s unpopular ratings remain, and its constant theme in the media, elections are still a choice. For instance, Congress’s low ratings as an institution are a mirage. Despite what you may have heard, it is actually one of the most popular institutions in America. Everyone loves his or her member of Congress. They just hate yours. Handel will likely be in her position as long as she pleases, because incumbents win more than 95 percent of races.

If the average Republican is willing to look past Trump’s sins (and obviously many GOPers like him outright) they can start weighing many other factors. They may, for instance, understand that voting for Ossoff is not only a vote against Trump but a vote for progressive liberals like House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, who holds a 91 percent disapproval rating with the sixth district. This is the choice.

If we’re being honest this wasn’t so much a referendum on Trump as it was on Pelosi and the far-left wack-jobs. The far-left might get themselves off with all the noise black lives matter, antifa, the resistance and pussy hats make but they only repel ordinary Americans. But please, dear lefties, continue on. Us conservatives enjoy winning.

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@Greg:

The average Trump voter doesn’t seem to be able to figure out who the losers really are.

Who the losers are? Ask those over 1000 ex politicians who are not now in office since Obozo came to power. And 5 elections since Trump, all Repubs.

You do know who the LOSERS are, if not, look for the D after their name.

@Greg: Greggie Greggie Greggie, we know that if you supported hilldabeast you ARE a loser!!

@Greg:

The average Trump voter doesn’t seem to be able to figure out who the losers really are. It will likely become clearer to them with the passage of time.

I was a ‘Not Hillary’ voter more than a Trump voter per se, but, not to put too fine of a point on it, it was actually quite obvious the evening of the election who won and who lost.

Perhaps someday it might even become clear enough that a Democrat will be able to figure it out. Hint – Hillary Clinton is *NOT* getting her mail (email or snail mail) at a White House address.

@Jay: I totally understand your voting position and I believe many Americans arrived at the same decision in the same way. Hilldabeast would have been a total disaster for our country for certain. I also made a similar choice with the Supreme Court Justice appointment as a high priority. I must say that sense the election it is even more clear that my choice was the correct one. To watch how the hateful demoncraps have behaved is disgusting.

News Flash. I’ve heard that they are now investigating the Russians for fixing the Georgia House race. I’m using ‘fixing’ rather loosely here because they were ‘supporting’ Ossoff, that’s why so many voted for Handel.

“All we do is win, win, win.”

Indeed, that is all you do. At some point people are going to notice.

In the immortal words of Stan Laurel, “I’m not as dumb as you look.”

@Greg:
Agreed, your much dumber than that!! Or as they say, “ignorance is bliss”!!

@Greg: You need a few of your girl Hilda posted? or Obozo? They’re both cute.

@Rich Wheeler: So Rich, did you or did you not EVER take ANY medicine?

@Redteam: i’ll clarify. As an adult I have never taken a prescribed medication. On rare occasions i’ll take over the counter cough or cold medications.
I don’t believe in Drs.—-think their goal is to keep you coming back—big pharmas goal is to hook you on meds any way they can–criminal and the reason for America’s burgeoning opiad addiction problem. Obviously many Drs collude with them.
Also consider the consumption of meat very unhealthy.

@Common SenseDoc : Please check yourself before accusing others. Thanks

@Rich Wheeler:

I don’t believe in Drs.—-think their goal is to keep you coming back

If you have never gone to Dr’s, how have they attempted to keep you coming back? I’ve had a heart atttack and have had stents installed. I’ve never thought, for one second, that what the Drs did to/for me were to keep me coming back so they would make more money or addict me to any drug. I take some prescription medicines, but haven’t taken or been prescribed any opioids. I’m certainly not addicted to any drug. I have atrial fibrillation so I have to take a blood thinner to lessen the chance of stroke. I see my GP once every six months, the blood thinner costs $0 and I can’t see how the Dr can be making money off that. (let me clarify so you won’t say I’m dishonest) I pay $15 month for Humana Part D drug plan which covers all my drugs. I get the blood thinner by mail order pharmacy for $0 co pay. I take a couple other prescription drugs, all $0 co pay. So tell me who is getting ‘rich’ off of my prescription drugs? One day you will likely need a Dr and then you will be happy to find one that has your interests in mind. My GP has 4 children and is the Coach of a Dixie Youth 9-10 year old team and is 42 years old. Give most doctors a break, they are hard working folks. I sure wouldn’t like to work their hours.

@Redteam: Good For You==probably more info than I need to know.

@another vet: Thanks for the reminder.
Today DT says Russians hacked the elections–he’d previously called it fake news. My guess is much of Trump’s fake news will prove to be real and true news.
I think he’s a classic BSer and flim flam man. I’m honestly surprised you see him otherwise. I understand why Bill, RT Nan like him–but not you.
Semper Fi

@Rich Wheeler: Who do you think lied to us- Obama or those who testified under under oath that the hacking continued after he said it stopped?

@another vet: Obviously BHO What’s that got to do with all the BS coming out of this WH? Trump is not trusted by the American people and it’s his own fault.
He’s digging a hole he’ll never get out of. Bragging about wins in deep red states? Who does he think he’s kidding? Only his 35% Trumpeteers—People are fed up with his schtick.

@Redteam: You got it just right. And may I add to the writer, who assumes “educated” or “more affluent” Repubs don’t like Trump…As long as political writers make that mistake, they completely misunderstand what’s going on. It’s not GOP vs. Dims exc according to the Left. To the rest of us, it’s the people for America against globalist elitists

I’m not going to drag out my degrees, but trust me — educated voters who can’t stand what the left has become LOVE Trump. He’s a fighter. So go on with the subtle hints in articles about only the “uneducated” (read: hicks, “deplorables,” etc.) being pro-Trump. We know what’s going on and are lovin’ it.

@Rich Wheeler:

What’s that got to do with all the BS coming out of this WH?

It shows you have no problem with BS as long it comes from Obama or any other dem.

Only his 35% Trumpeteers—People are fed up with his schtick.

Like Clinton was at this point in his first term?

My guess is much of Trump’s fake news will prove to be real and true news.

Innocent until proven guilty unless it’s painstakingly obvious like Hillary’s felonious handling of classified material.

I think he’s a classic BSer and flim flam man. I’m honestly surprised you see him otherwise.

He’s doing everything he promised unlike most pols. This country has been going down the tubes for at least the last eight years and it will probably continue given we are in the banana republic mode. May as well get some entertainment while we’re at it.

How can any educated voter listen closely to Trump, and not realize that the guy is bouncing off random domestic and international developments like a loose cannon on a rocking ship?

He’s operating exactly as he would if his primary job as President were keeping up the ratings of a reality TV program. He’s functioning as a distraction, deflecting the media’s focus and keeping public attention off serious issues, giving cover to the efforts of republicans in Congress—who still can’t seem to get it together to do anything, even with controlling majorities in both houses. The only thing they all can agree on is to blame their own legislative paralysis on democrats.

@Ajay42302:

Uh, I’m from Kentucky and had no vote whatsoever in GA, you incredibly ignorant mouthpeice for Trump ass.

You are a liberal; you are a LOSER who lost your opportunity for a liberal utopia like Venezuela. A loser Obama apologist excuse maker. Also, remember… “I before E except after C.”

@-Rich Wheeler:

@Bill… Deplorable Me: “Trump is popular–Trump is leading”—-with about I/3 of Americans–which leaves 2/3 –not so much.
Succeeding??
DT “I’m popular, I’m succeeding, I’m leading.” It’s O.K. daddy. Mom and I believe you.

Even with the corrupt liberal media carrying on a constant campaign to ruin him, Trump is now getting 50% approval. You also seem to forget the liberal media telling us Obamacare was succeeding, the 1% growth economy was booming, the laughing out loud world was respecting and Obama was succeeding. You leftists don’t even know what success is; you think a lie believed is success.

@another vet: How bout the wackos who say Russian hacking didn’t happen–nothing there–fake news–witch hunt??

Who says it didn’t happen? The question is, what was the effect? What did it change? And WHY did the DNC refuse help from the FBI and Homeland Security to prevent the hacking everyone in the Obama administration seem to know was coming? Afraid what kind of dirty crap might get seen?

Here’s what is denied; proven not to have happened, in fact, by the absence of proof; any Trump administration or campaign collusion. THIS was your big hope, what you pinned all your dreams on, and it was nothing but a huge lie.

I don’t believe in Drs.—-think their goal is to keep you coming back—big pharmas goal is to hook you on meds any way they can–criminal and the reason for America’s burgeoning opiad addiction problem.

So, you think Obamacare is enabling crime? WHY, then, do you support it?

@another vet:

The dems spent millions of dollars on an election they weren’t going to win for a seat which would have done nothing to alter the power in Congress.

They did it all for nothing but THEIR opportunity to gloat. It was a “referendum on Trump” and, like with Hillary, they thought they had it cinched. They lost… THAT is gloat-worthy.

@Greg:

The average Trump voter doesn’t seem to be able to figure out who the losers really are. It will likely become clearer to them with the passage of time.

No, it’s pretty clear who the losers are. The losers are those who cannot accept a lawful, legal election simply because it did not go the way they were told it was going to go… how it was SCHEMED to go. THOSE are the losers and we see them in the media, in Hollywood, protesting and, yes, even posting here.

You have become so accustomed to believing being told the opposite of what the facts are, you now think winning is losing and losing is winning. Perhaps your liberals are fighting a rear-guard action, giving up lives and territory to find a better fighting position?

Liberals are the real losers because they have CHOSEN to lose.

How can any educated voter listen closely to Trump, and not realize that the guy is bouncing off random domestic and international developments like a loose cannon on a rocking ship?

Why did supposedly intelligent people keep believing Obama after he LIED to them on every one of his promises? Trump is fulfilling his promises.

@another vet: Entertainment is right–did you see him driving his golf cart onto a green–do you play golf? It’s a microcosm of him as a human being–boorish.
DT’S CURRENT 60% disapproval substantially Higher than Clinton EVER hit.

Bill I never heard back from you on why you called Senator Harris a slut–You’re a typical Trumpeteer-aren’t you? “50% approval” are you nuts Repub pollster Ras has him at 47% everyone else under 40%. He’s sinking and has ONLY himself to blame.

@Rich Wheeler: I have never played golf. As George Carlin said (paraphrasing), “Why would I want to hit a little white ball, find it, put it back down, hit it, and then have to go find it again? I’d be happy that I just found the f*****g thing!”

It’s a microcosm of him as a human being–boorish.

Ditto for Obama, but then again he gets a free pass on everything.

@another vet: Neither Clinton or Obama ever put up anything close to Trump’s current 60% disapproval–I expect it will get worse as truth seeker Mueller continues his probe.
Trump fired Comey and got Mueller—-If he cans Mueller 60% disapproval will look like the good old days.
BTW Have you noticed how this admin has gone into full duck and cover mode?

Carlin–loved him

@Rich Wheeler: Maybe, but I shared it just to show you that you don’t really have a lot to fear from MD’s. Most of them will bust their ass to do the best they can for you if and when you need it. Do they deserve a ‘living wage’ ? Sure.

Neither Clinton or Obama ever put up anything close to Trump’s current 60% disapproval

That may be true but neither of them had 99% of the news people foaming out their mouths trying to nail their asses. All of the news people I see on tv remind me of children that just had their toys taken away from them. I have never seen so many people that seem to be ready to overthrow the government just because they lost. Let mommy kiss it and make it all better.

@Rich Wheeler:

He’s digging a hole he’ll never get out of.

but he’s digging from a position you and most other socialists never thought he would be in. I’m sure your predictions did not include Trump winning.

@MAGA: Right MAGA, I’m certainly not an uneducated turnip. I have plenty of education, enough to know we need more people like Trump in our government. That’s the problem with Dumbocraps, they appoint all those people to jobs that they’ve never had any experience for (other than stealing money).

@Greg:

if his primary job as President were keeping up the ratings of a reality TV program.

Don’t you think if his objective was to get his ratings up that he would put a possum in every pot? He would have more hidden doors and giveaways trying to make people happy. instead, his attitude is ‘damn the torpedos, full speed ahead.” Do what’s best for the country and to hell with what the liberal press is apoplectic about.

@Rich Wheeler:

are you nuts Repub pollster Ras has him at 47%

as you well know, Ras had him at 50 within the last week.

@Redteam: Thank you RT. I truly appreciate your input and advice. Be well.

@Rich Wheeler:

ntertainment is right–did you see him driving his golf cart onto a green–do you play golf? It’s a microcosm of him as a human being–boorish.

OMG!!! Is that ANOTHER impeachable offense?!? Should there be ANOTHER special prosecutor?

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/18/donald-trump-poll-numbers-approval-50-percent-rasmussen-ap-64-disapproval

Bill I never heard back from you on why you called Senator Harris a slut

Because she’s a slut that slept her way into important positions (besides the most advantageous ones).

http://gotnews.com/busted-u-s-senate-candidate-kamala-harris-got-political-start-connected-boyfriend/

Neither Clinton or Obama ever put up anything close to Trump’s current 60% disapproval–I expect it will get worse as truth seeker Mueller continues his probe.

I guess it helps to have the media lying away your failures. Obama spied on citizens and used the IRS as a political weapon, failed the nation and stirred up racial tensions. Clinton committed perjury and was impeached. Liberals don’t care about laws or violations… they just want the promises of free stuff. You LIKE being lied to.

@Bill… Deplorable Me:You don’t play golf. How long do you plan to post last weeks Ras poll when there are 10 others that have Trump in the tank–desperation setting in ?
Fake news–alternative facts–fire Mueller–blame Obama
What’s next?
re Harris–should we go into Trump’s many affairs WHILE MARRIED? How bout when Ivana accused him of raping her?

@Rich Wheeler: OMG Trump slept with those women to get to the Presidency.(we know by his own admission hes a Tramp or was) Yes mansplain how that made him powerful or got him wealth. Why isnt the media paying closer attention to our beautiful first lady? She is always dressed so well, graceful and picking up new her role with class, the media has pounded her for being a thoughtful mum keeping Baron in his school to end the term.
I could find no liberal sources, maybe if she wore frumpy 20K pantsuits.
http://www.townandcountrymag.com/style/fashion-trends/a10197068/melania-trumps-casual-looks/

@kitt: Trophy–she won’t even hold hands with the rotunda orange man.

@Rich Wheeler: @Rich Wheeler:

re Harris–should we go into Trump’s many affairs WHILE MARRIED? How bout when Ivana accused him of raping her?

Oh, that is so last week, Rich. She recanted that and said it wasn’t true. Remember?

Ohhh…. that’s right…. your liberal propaganda only informs you on what THEY want you to think.

@Bill… Deplorable Me: Yeah she recanted the rape charge–What did that cost Donald?–then she divorced him. Smart woman.
Talk about propaganda–you buyin all the B.S this W.H. is putting out? Lately they’ve been trying to go silent–can’t happen as long as DT has twitter. That man has no discipline–dangerous.

@Rich Wheeler:

BTW Have you noticed how this admin has gone into full duck and cover mode?

What are they ducking and covering from? Provide facts to support the assertion. To summarize the last three weeks:

Week 1: Testimonies from Comey, heads, and former heads of intel agencies, under oath, that they have seen ZERO evidence of Trump-Russia collusion to steal the election (this has been going on for eleven months) grossly undercut that conspiracy. Their testimonies also led to MSM “news” outlets having to issue retractions to stories they reported on as “fact”, i.e. fake news. Their testimonies about Russian interference outed Obama as a liar for claiming the hacking stopped after he talked to Putin. Their testimonies were also supported by members of Congress, including high ranking dems, who said they have seen ZERO evidence of collusion (after eleven months). Comey testified that he has never known anyone being convicted of a crime for saying “I hope” greatly undercut the obstruction “charge”. Comey outed himself as a leaker with an agenda and has now cast a shadow on Mueller’s impartialness. Lynch was outed for interfering in Hillary’s email investigation. Considering this week was hyped as the week that would finish Trump, it proved to be a HUGE failure for the left.

Week 2: The AG’s testimony reinforced what was revealed in Week 1. The dems and the MSM went into full duck and cover mode to cover for and make excuses for one their minions who shot up a ballfield in an attempt to kill as many Republicans as possible. The reaction from the left ranged from excuses to applause and further encouragement of violence thus inching the country ever closer to a place we don’t need to go. More dems came out this week saying it was a good thing. A lawsuit was filed against Comey (and others) for obstruction (and other abuses) because of how he buried evidence showing Obama and company spied on millions of Americans for no good reason with some of those spying incidents being politically motivated. More evidence of a cover up with regards to the Seth Rich murder case emerged. Considering this was supposed to be another week of gloom and doom for Trump, it was another failure for the left, especially considering their reaction to the D.C. shootings. It showed just how far they’re willing to go to achieve their objectives.

Week 3: The dems turned what should have been a relatively unnoticed and inconsequential election into a huge defeat by promoting it as a referendum on Trump thus turning it into a huge victory for him when it shouldn’t have been. Now the dems and their MSM allies are in full duck and cover mode trying to downplay their loss. In a week that was supposed to see a HUGE rebuke to Trump in a “referendum” election, his “victory” made it another HUGE failure for the left.

Speaking of week 2, I noticed that it has been over a week now since one of the dem street minions opened fire on Republicans and I don’t recall you expressing any outrage like you did after the Gifford’s shooting. I will take that as a silent endorsement on your part.

@Rich Wheeler: Perhaps its the way she keeps him guessing, maybe the carpet wasnt wide enough for her to comfortably walk next to him in heels, they were holding hands when disembarking the plane. Look closer at Melania no protocol errors, which the left is drooling for.

@another vet: Let’s see what Mueller uncovers–Trump should stop trying to get Intel chiefs to “clear him” Don’t go dark on press briefings.
Endorsement of the shooting–are you nuts?
What did I say about Gifford shooting?

Kitt”–off the plane”–are you suggesting a mile high club membership?

@Rich Wheeler:

What did I say about Gifford shooting?

One of your quotes, which was actually quite refreshing at the time considering the crap posted by fellow lefties like Greg, B-Rob, liberal 1 etc. who were blaming Palin etc.:

As we can all read Michelle was talking about arming people with information.We agree that the language of Palin,Obama et. al. in all likelihood had no influence on the shooter. Let’s pause to mourn those so senselessly lost and pray for the full recovery of the wounded.

You didn’t dispute the Palin charge until Dr J went after Michelle and were quite outraged. No such statement was issued this time.

Let’s see what Mueller uncovers

That’s what you are preaching but not what you are practicing. You have Trump tried and convicted with zero evidence. If Mueller produces evidence of collusion and/or obstruction, something no one else has seen despite 11 months of investigations, then people like Comey, Clapper, Coats, Brennan, and McCabe either perjured themselves or were excluded from seeing the “evidence” by their subordinates.

As I said before, if there is credible evidence (not ginned up as this investigation is becoming like the Valerie Plame one whereby there is an investigation when there was no crime committed in the first place) of high crimes and misdemeanors, then he should be impeached. If not, then this will be a failed coup attempt rather than a successful coup attempt and I will accuse all involved of sedition and subversion.

@Rich Wheeler: So, in essence, you have nothing to base any of your accusations on, right? Oh, you DO love to whip up suspicions and accusations in your little mind, but in the end, they are baseless. However, even when PROVEN baseless, you just keep right on with your biased prejudices… because liberals have been so honest and straight forward with you.

Sheesh.

Trump just signed a law to protect VA whistle-blowers, fire incompetent administrators and revoke bonuses paid to those who have let veterans die. All Obama did was talk and reward the liars who put bonuses before veterans’ lives. Trump accomplishes, Obama just talked. Trump protects veterans, Obama despised them. This is what you hate; someone that actually fulfills promises to veterans.

What the Hell? How is the discovery of 3 women in drums on property owned by the Clinton’s related to the Clinton’s. :They are from Arkansas and disappeared in 1974. It CAN’T just be a coincidence?

How does a US Navy ship, with some of the most sophisticated radar systems in existence, not detect and track and warn the Officer of the Deck of the impending collision with a 750 foot container ship? That is just not possible. Who is covering up what?
And the container ship did not even have a person on the bridge which means they were depending entirely on their navigation system which contains sophisticated tracking and collision avoidance systems. All this in NOT possible. What went wrong and who is covering up what?

How is the discovery of 3 women in drums on property owned by the Clinton’s related to the Clinton’s.

The story about bodies found in barrels on Clinton-owned property is a total fabrication, top to bottom, right to left, which was originally concocted and put online by Freedom Crossroads, a political satire website.

Click on their About Us link, and you’ll find the information:

“Freedom Crossroads is a magical place where patriots and God-fearing, Trump-loving Americans can go to find like-minded friends, read all about the buzz in the conservative community and be a part of the revolution to make America great again.

“Freedom Crossroads uses facts that don’t exist and relies more on imagination than the truth. In fact, there is likely no truth at all in what you will read here. All of our articles are basically a crock of doody and should be considered satirical whimsies for today’s aging conservative. All people, places, names and images should be considered fictitious or fictitious representations.”

The joke, unfortunately, is on Freedom Crossroads, because they don’t seem to realize that the people they’re poking fun at often don’t get the joke. They don’t realize the stories are bogus, any more than they realize that Donald Trump is a barrel full of malarkey. The phony stories often wind up being circulated on conservative social media or as mass emails. Once they’re outside the context of the website they’re taken for real, and actually influence how some people vote.

@Bill… Deplorable Me: I’m a Marine Corps Vet who fought in V.N You didn’t serve. Trump skipped out and bashed Mac.
You got no cred when it comes to Vets.

Suspicions and accusations and phony stories-see above–that’s what reactionaries like yourself specialize in deplorable.

Let this play out–to me it’s obvious the Russians wanted DT to beat HRC—what’s not YET clear is why—-and to what extent Trump’s “little helpers” were involved.

I think Director Mueller will provide the answers—if allowed.

@Rich Wheeler:

@Bill… Deplorable Me: I’m a Marine Corps Vet who fought in V.N You didn’t serve. Trump skipped out and bashed Mac.
You got no cred when it comes to Vets.

RW, you’re not saying a person has to be a vet to have credibility, are you? What service was Slick in? Which one was Obozo in? I don’t recall you slandering them for not serving when, in fact, Slick was a felony draft dodger that had to be pardoned to run for president.

Didn’t you serve to preserve the right of Americans to have a say on whatever they want to have a say on? Call it ‘Freedom of Speech’? Otherwise, did you waste your time in defending those freedoms?
Why don’t you bash Mac for being the Hanoi Songbird?

to me it’s obvious the Russians wanted DT to beat HRC—what’s not YET clear is why

Obvious? So if that is ‘obvious’ then I guess they didn’t do anything to make that happen, or it would also have been ‘obvious’ to you. But, if I were guessing, I’d say that the Russians knew that Hilda was a known ‘untrustable’ person. That she was totally unreliable and ‘stupid’. Besides that they didn’t want to have to look at her scraggly ass drag around in North Korean jumpsuits for the next 4 years. Other than that……..

@Rich Wheeler: As a Veteran then I will say that the VA under Obama put bureaucrats at the VA over the Veterans they were supposed to be serving. Waiting lists. Denial of benefits. Veterans dying from lack of care. Etc. Those are all proven facts, not made up stories. I saw a definite attitude change at my VA to “screw you, we are protected now”.

to me it’s obvious the Russians wanted DT to beat HRC

I’m sure they wanted Obama over McCain and Romney. Does that mean Obama colluded with Russia?

A buddy of mine was an SFODA Team Sergeant in Afghanistan in ’06. He said the Taliban and AQ celebrated when the dems took Congress. Does that mean the dems colluded with the Taliban and AQ? After all, they were the anti-war party who chastised Bush for taking the fight to them.

@Rich Wheeler:

@Bill… Deplorable Me: I’m a Marine Corps Vet who fought in V.N You didn’t serve. Trump skipped out and bashed Mac. You got no cred when it comes to Vets.

YOU’VE supported candidates and a party that DESPISES not only veterans but also the active serving. YOU have forfeited your “cred”. I, at least, care for the well-being of our veterans. But, if you have “cred”, how do you view Trump’s support of veterans as compared to Obama’s? Do you actually care that veterans get good treatment at the VA?

Suspicions and accusations and phony stories-see above–that’s what reactionaries like yourself specialize in deplorable.

Sorry, no, wrong again. All the phony stories, accusations and lies come from your quarter. This is because it is all you have. You had to support the attorney for cows (or so you claim) instead of supporting the confirmed liar and criminal your party foisted upon you. Now they make excuses for her loss and you help perpetuate the lies.

Let this play out–to me it’s obvious the Russians wanted DT to beat HRC—what’s not YET clear is why—-and to what extent Trump’s “little helpers” were involved.

First, it is quite clear the extent Trump’s team were involved. Nada. Zero. Zilch. None. Of course, you could pay out of your own pocket for a perpetual investigation with the forlorn hope of FINALLY finding something you can actually complain about. I think further beating that dead horse a complete waste of resources.

However, if they wanted Trump over Hillary, the reason is quite clear; she and Obama interfered in THEIR elections, as well as the elections in numerous other countries. However, one thing the Russians could be safely assured of… Hillary could be bought.

@Redteam:

RW, you’re not saying a person has to be a vet to have credibility, are you? What service was Slick in?

Slick wrote he “loathed the military” yet liberals like Rich still worship him and his harpie wife.