If we are having a discussion with someone about Trump or conservatism, we have to learn to ask questions. For example, it dawned on me to ask, when the tangent of “election hacking” was ventured off on in order to excuse away the miserable showing by liberals, what exactly was accomplished by the “hacking”? What advantage was gained through this “Russian interference”? When this question is posed, the subject is changed. The response is that it is un-measurable. We don’t know… it just cost Hillary the election, that’s all. (That would also be a good time to ask why, if such release of damaging material is bad, why is the traitor Manning being released early from prison? Or, does it simply depend upon whose donkey is being gored?)
So, as we here the incessant droning on about Obama’s high approval rating and Trump’s approval rating, the thought occurs to me to ask, why, exactly, is Trump’s approval rating low? What is causing this?
Aside from, due the the mere fact of his election, convincing Carrier to stay in the US and save, without spending a nickel or saying a word, 2,000 jobs, what did he do? He’s done nothing, if you don’t count actually talking Ford into building new plants in the US and creating more jobs. What, except for negotiating lower costs for the F-35 and the new Air Force One, has he been doing to lower his approval ratings?
Trump’s big sin against humanity was to defeat the Heir Obvious and Entitled to the Liberal Throne, Hillary Clinton. What he did wrong was to win. His crime was to bring crashing down the dream of an ongoing liberal Utopia, powered indefinitely by Supreme Court appointments that would load the bench with activist liberals and assure that whatever was needed to suppress opposition to the liberal dream of dictating what freedoms we want and enjoy would be brushed aside. Like when Bush defeated Gore, ending the hopes of another eight years of the Clinton’s, so Trump wrecked a potential 8 years of Hillary, followed by whomever the Democrats could get the millions of illegal immigrants already here and the millions more they lured into the country to vote for. Poof… gone.
Trump was a brash candidate… a counter puncher that took no slight, attack or insult without response. I don’t particularly like it that way but, sadly, that was what it takes to defeat an ideology that gets away with employing the false personal attack, expecting the opposition to be too dignified to respond with heavy artillery. Instead of Romney, I wanted Gingrich to run against Obama, because he would have run just the sort of campaign that was needed. Romney, the nice guy, finished last in a two-man race. Trump took the fight to the Democrats and, when they got dirty, he got dirty. They could have learned and cleaned up their act, but they thought, with the media on their side, they could prevail, just as they always have. But, this time the People were paying attention.
Trump is criticized for responding to long-winded personal attack speeches, rife with lies and “fake news”, with 140 characters. Trump is criticized for being childish in response to childish attacks. Trump is criticized for not being able to be “above” such things by the people who start the conversation out way on down there.
In other words, Trump is attacked for no other reason than he is not the person that pleases liberals, which of course includes much of the media. He is not Obama who, along the same lines, is wildly popular for no particular reason other than he is Obama. His policies have failed, the world is more dangerous, the economy in much the same state as when it only began to climb out of recession and personal hatred among citizens is at a greater level than ever before. Obama, who releases terrorists from jail and pardons drug criminals, is popular among those who think Trump and his conservatism puts society at risk.
So, the questions need to be asked; WHY is Obama popular? What has Trump done to deserve his lack of approval (listen carefully to what is said he “says”, as it rarely matches his actual words)?
You might also ask, “Who cares?”
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“So, the questions need to be asked; WHY is Obama popular? What has Trump done to deserve his lack of approval (listen carefully to what is said he “says”, as it rarely matches his actual words)? ”
Exactly to the point! some years back, my wife and I were watching as Gingrich gave his speech after becoming the Speaker of the House. Unlike our liberal friend and being of sound mind, both my wife and I listened, comprehended and understood every word he said and in turn we felt we understood exactly what he meant.
Then we made the awful mistake of listening to the talking heads, Brokaw, Rather and the rest as they informed we stupid illiterates out in TV land what we “actually heard” and furthermore what Gingrich was “actually saying” I remember looking at my wife and commenting at that time what a line of horsecrap I had just been fed by the MSM scum as I was pretty sure what they were telling me was not what I had heard. And so it goes.
Even after being taken to the woodshed and caned for their idiocy and worse, the “controlled media” insists on feeding us the same lies and worse! America First Racist! It’s Hitler like! Blah Blah blah! Same crap, different day and all with one aim in mind. Destroy anyone who stands against the march to hard left Socialism and worse. Hypocrites all and worse in my mind, enemies of the people, as we who as Trump reminded us are in fact the controllers of the Government.
Well, the election is over and I have at least a sense of relief. I’m hoping Pres. Trump can in fact rein in the lost cause that is the Washington establishment and his scathing rebuke of the entrenched establishment was both refreshing and right on point. It’s not racist, it’s not hateful. It is fact!
Pres. Trump said something that should be branded in everyone’s minds, something that if one cannot understand or believe in then they should just leave. And as we know, any mention of it is an affront to Liberals, BLM, Muslims and far to many people who have lost touch of our basic ideals!
“When You Open Your Heart to Patriotism, There Is No Room for Prejudice,”
Let me add to that. There is no room for hate. There is no room for anarchy and open rioting and destruction as what is going on now!
How sad the very people who cry and moan about it are the ones that refuse to practice it.
By far Obama has been the #1 worst presidents in american history and the news media are pretty much a bunch of worshipers who thinks of him as a god of some kind just like what the anchent egptians though of their pharoh as a son of rhti god osirus
@joetote: So true Joe. Just today, on Fox News Sunday, Chris Wallace made the statement that what Trump said was not true. It dealt with the crowds at the inaug. In fact, what Trump said was not wrong. So, as popular as Trump is on the Fox network, he still has some liberals on Fox such as Wallace that just can’t stand the fact that Trump won.
Does Trump say some things that might be better left unsaid? Yes, but if he doesn’t say them, who would. Then we would be defenseless against the libs. NBC, CBS and ABC abandoned news long ago. Constant barrage of liberal propaganda. Should Trump continue to tweet? Absolutely, because when the libs come out with a lie, he can expose them immediately. Does it seem immature? No more so than for the Lame Stream Media to lie about everything they report on. EVERYTHING.
Obama has approval rating of 50-60%
Wrong Track # was as high as 70% during election
Trump approval @ 50%
Wrong track down to 55%
People “like” Obama, but they didn’t like the job he was doing.
@JSW: Yes, Obama did such a great job that his campaigning and bully pulpit for Hillary helped her lose.
@JSW:
I don’t know if that is true. I don’t personally know even one person that ‘likes’ Obama and certainly doesn’t like his politics. I can’t name one single thing he has done that helped the country. True unemployment is 56% 97 million out of a total workforce of 172 million. It certainly wasn’t that high when he took office. He has likely sent more jobs overseas than any other president. He bows to the Arabs. Why? How do I account for the polls that show him favorably. If you’re doing the polls, you make make them come out any way you want. And they do. I could poll only people I know and I’ll bet Trump would be above 90% and Obama down around 5%. Why does Fox polls show as badly as they do for Trump? Simple, Murdoch is a liberal. He wants the libs to be shown favorably. Fox News for him is a business deal and is one of his most profitable. The market in the US when he started Fox was for a conservative network. Simply a business decision. But they still help the libs every chance they get. For example, Bret Bair, Chris Wallace and Megan Kelly were charged with trying to sink Trump. The others were free to call it as they wanted to. Most are conservative.
Very little likelihood that the Obama approval numbers are anywhere near reality.
Cut them by 20+% and you might get closer to truth.
The reason the subject gets changed, is because what was gained was Hillary, Podesta and the DNC’s emails, which revealed the truth of how corrupt the whole DNC-MSM-Clinton machine was in their very own words. Collaboration between the MSM and the Democrats to cheat in their primaries and against Trump in the general election, that they all too confidentially counted on would be their little dirty secrets..Democrats were not horrified about what was in the emails, they were only horrified that they were exposed .
I just read that many of those anti trump rioters could be facing up to 10 years in prison and face 25K fines for their crimes I certianly hope they do get 10 years in prison watch the little snowflakes melt
@Spurwing Plover: They won’t be able to count on Trump pardoning them, either, as Obama did drug dealers by the hundreds.
Guess what? Polls teach us nothing.
Typical polls get about 5% response rate, according to the texts I use to teach Statistics.
How can you learn anything from 5%? A poll is only valid to the extent that the respondents are randomly selected. If 95% of the randomly selected participants decline to participate, there goes your information!
So the polls were (almost without exception) wrong about the recent election. D’Oh. One must find other means to identify public opinion. I don’t know that those means would be.
Obamas next place of residence should be a feceral prison for life and even longer
“Find the enemy that wants to end this experiment (in American democracy) and kill every one of them until they’re so sick of the killing that they leave us and our freedoms intact.”
guess the author of this quote
@kitt: That would be, I believe, our new Secretary of Defense, General Mattis.
@JSW: Well said. I think it’s very important to understand the dynamics of the polls as well. What is known is that these polls where completed by the same group that had hilldabeast winning the Presidential Election both by popular and electoral college vote in a landslide. More importantly only 24% of those polled identified themselves as Republican. During Christmas I would guess Santa Claus giving away free toys would be more popular than your dad telling you the truth and reality about live and economics!!
@joetote: Nicely spoken. The MSM so totally disgusts us that we cancelled all TV coverage and now only use the internet (Drudge, IJR, Breitbart among many) to reach our on conclusions. We deplorables knew who hildabeast and pervert were over 30 years ago.
Now we subscribe to who we want (Hulu, Netflix, …) where our entertainment $s only go to entertainment WE desire to watch and no part of our subscription $s go to the despicable programming that floods our airwaves.
Not hard to make the only intelligent decision: No MSM, no WaPo, No NYT, …..
@Bill- Deplorable Me: I hope obozo is happy about the pardoned guy in Michigan half-way house that was exterminated as the rest of the changelings watched.
@Mark Ette: The dropping of the MOAB? I say we now have a C in C that has turned the military actions back to the military.
I think you just answered your own question. The people who liked Obama’s approach to the presidency and strongly dislike Trump’s care, and care very much. With Obama, supporters knew who was in the White House, what he was likely to do, and why he was likely to do it.
Trump, on the other hand, is like a weather vane. He points whichever way a favorable political wind blows seems to be blowing at the moment. He reverses himself constantly and is best defined by that tendency itself, rather than by any firm and reliable position. Have you not noticed? Many of the statements he made that got him elected are the exact opposite of what he’s now saying. NATO? Vladimir Putin? The importance of repealing and replacing Obamacare? Syrian intervention? What core position has he remained consistent on?
He said he was going to make his tax returns available for inspection as soon as the audit was complete. That was a lie. He said he was going to prosecute Clinton, for all of the bullshit she was accused of the right by doing. That was also a lie. The stories and claims used to take her down were mostly fabrications. He said whatever he needed to say to get elected.
So, what he says now is suddenly the truth? Check back tomorrow, or a week or a month or a year from now. Maybe you’ll find a few positions or statements that can be categorized as reliable in retrospect.
@Greg:
You have it exactly backwards. Obama supported traditional marriage… until began losing support. Then he needed a wedge, so he supported gay “marriage”. He wanted to appear strong on illegal immigration, so he cooked the books to make it look like he was deporting everything in sight… as he brought in illegals by the train load.
You confuse negotiating from strength with changing positions. Trump takes strong, extreme positions (which people like yourself criticized) then negotiates away the extreme parts to get what he wants. As opposed to Obama who thought his magnificent aura, personality and charisma was enough to make great deals… which were all bad.
We knew what we had in Obama… a community organizer. A campaigner. A liar. We know what we have in Trump.
A leader. FINALLY.