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Fox is saying HRC won. I don’t think so. I give the nod to Trump.

ONE THING IS CERTAIN. This election will be VERY close and decided in Pa—I believe Trump momentum stopped tonight and he’ll be more aggressive in the final 40 days. The real DT will re-emerge–for better or worse.

Lester had a great night. I didn’t realize he was in the debate, until he started grilling Trump about all his supposed problems. Trump should have brought his own moderator to grill Hillary on her weaknesses.

If he did or did not support the war he should have answered I didn’t have the inside scoop like Hillary who voted for it, all I had was the Media to rely on for information.
Jullian was 2 days late with this, or it will mop up after the poor job Trump did tonight not hitting her with the coal miners jobs ect..
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/wikileaks-confirms-hillary-sold-weapons-isis-drops-another-bombshell-breaking-news/
This wont hit the media for days they will be either praising Hillary or Trump damage control.
Lying to congress is that against the law?

@Skookum: Good point.
I remember thinking that some of his ”questions” were based on faulty premises.
To even start to answer them Trump had to seem to buy the lies implied.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/09/26/polls-polls-polls-ok-who-won-the-debate/
Lots of polls there.

The media would have us believe Hillary won but these polls show something completely different.

Hillary’s main problem:
Rich donors only get ONE vote.
Foreigners don’t even get that.
Hillary’s globalist allies in and out of media are trying to force a card on the American voting public…..and we’re not falling for it.

@Skookum: Believe me, Trumps problems are as real as Hillary’s–I’m voting against both.

@Nanny G: Yes, when you buy into a BS question, you are defending yourself. Why wasn’t Hillary defending Benghazi and the Clinton Foundation and Libya and her Iranian squeeze from The MB who surely doesn’t have a security clearance? Why wasn’t she defending her Bimbo Eruption Squad? Her stellar accomplishments for the black community? Trump should have asked Lester when those questions were going to arise instead of defending his business and tax declarations. This was a bogus BS operation and the GOP walked into it once again. I could expect Romeny and McCain to be led into a a bogus BS deal, but I thought Trump was smarter and meaner.

Lester……

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The MOST significant development of the debate is tha Hillary STILL cannot conjure up a single solitary positive contribution she has made to this nation. All she touts is a lot of motion that accomplished nothing but bad results.

@DrJohn: It didn’t take long–This morning Trump opened up on former Ms. Universe AKA Ms Piggy by DT. HEEEE’S BACK

Take note RT Giuliani is advising TRUMP to not show up for the next 2 debates.

@Bill: Hillary tells us dems are now to be proud of the ghettos, why they have churches and Churches chicken, and the other businesses, title loans, pawn shops, hair and nail salons, liquor stores kwiki -marts, and windshield washing services, you know big businesses great employment opportunities. Jaw dropping ignorant of reality, she doesnt really care about the people who really live under sniper fire in democratic controlled areas.

@Richard Wheeler: Agree Richard. I still believe that Trump will release his tax returns and if they are clean it will make hilldabeast look the the liar she is. The things she said about them will be refuted. He set the trap and the rat took the bait.

@Skookum: #5
Skook, from the first words Holt uttered last night, lying about a mythical and glowing Obama economy, it was obvious that there would be no neutrality in the moderator.

Holt is an idiot and couldn’t help himself.

I actually found it a disgusting debate to watch, as Hillary mindlessly repeated her memorized insults prompted along by the moderating fool — made one feel noxious.

What came off the screen, and the most telling element for me was observing the sociopathic nature of Clinton bubbling to the surface. She’s one sick puppy.

Many of the old stories about her, including some I’d heard personally in the nineties from people who knew Slick Willy, and other anecdotes from guys like members of her security detail, about her character imbalance, emerged and were on full display yesterday.

And one more thing, . . .

Clinton actually stated that racism was systemic in police departments, then went on to double down on it claiming racism is systemic in America, . . .

“I think implicit bias is a problem for everyone not just police,”

How does this insanity get support from anyone? She wants to be President?

@Common Sense:

I still believe that Trump will release his tax returns and if they are clean it will make hilldabeast look the the liar she is.

Maybe he will not that he’s admitted to being proud to not paying taxes and that it’s good business to screw contractors and workers out of their wages.

Funny thing about releasing those taxes, he can’t do it because he’s under audit but yet, he can if Hillary releases her emails-as if the IRS or whoever will give him a pass to release them contingent on Hillary.

@DrJohn:

He was able for the most part to stay with Clinton and did not look like a madman

I thought that same thing. Well, for the 1st 15 minutes.@Skookum:

Why wasn’t Hillary defending Benghazi and the Clinton Foundation and Libya and her Iranian squeeze from The MB who surely doesn’t have a security clearance?

Hillary’s too seasoned to fall for that, despite Trump’s 34 to 51 (depending on who’s counting) interruptions.

@James Raider:

: #5
Skook, from the first words Holt uttered last night, lying about a mythical and glowing Obama economy, it was obvious that there would be no neutrality in the moderator.

The opening was scripted for the low information voters. Knowing a certain number of uninformed voters would be tuning in, the opening was designed to pave the way for Hillary to present her plan to increase taxes on the wealthy because they have not been paying their fair share…

Wonder why Lester ignored the fact that this post recession recovery is the longest in history.

@Common Sense: If they were clean he’d have released them already—He pays no taxes and is proud of it. Note where Trump is calling for a stock market crash–so he can load up like he did when housing cratered
THUMBS DOWN TO BOTH THESE SCAMMERS

Vote your conscience Semper Fi

@July 4th American, #20:

Wonder why Lester ignored the fact that this post recession recovery is the longest in history.

You might want to rephrase that. The longest post recession recovery in history doesn’t actually sound like a bad thing. People might begin thinking that a prolonged episode of economic recovery is somehow positive.

@Richard Wheeler: Do you pay more taxes than you owe?? Does the IRS audit you annually?? I still think hilldabeast will have egg on her face as she accused him of all kinds of stuff that are total lies!! The debates where totally rigged.

@Common Sense: Have you ever noticed how often Repubs claim things are rigged when they are losing? I FIND IT HILARIOUS.
He’s a Billionaire–do you think he should pay at least as much as his secretaries?

@Richard Wheeler: Al Sharpton owes over $6 million in taxes. He is invited to the White House repeatedly and courted by Democrat candidates for support. Warren Buffett’s business owes over a billion in taxes; he is their financial messiah. Hillary takes a huge deduction on the taxes she pays on her donation income by contributing to her own foundation… which pays her operating expenses.

Why is it you would worry about Trump’s taxes? The people YOU support have set the precedent for ignoring tax responsibilities; why can’t anyone else enjoy that benefit? Why can’t EVERYONE enjoy that benefit?

@Greg:

The longest post recession recovery in history doesn’t actually sound like a bad thing

No need to rephrase;

Even seven years after the recession ended, the current stretch of economic gains has yielded less growth than much shorter business cycles.

In terms of average annual growth, the pace of this expansion has been by far the weakest of any since 1949. (And for which we have quarterly data.) The economy has grown at a 2.1% annual rate since the U.S. recovery began in mid-2009, according to gross-domestic-product data the Commerce Department released Friday.

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/07/29/seven-years-later-recovery-remains-the-weakest-of-the-post-world-war-ii-era/

@Bill- Deplorable Me: Release them and we’ll see what we got and go from there–pretty simple–it’s what PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES DO.
This is hurting him–conclusion would be what he’s hiding is worse—common sense.
Obviously a candidate so seriously flawed is only even because HRC IS HIS OPPONANT

@Richard Wheeler: Hillarys transcripts from her very very expensive speeches to her Wall st donors sing to us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S9ecXWCBCc
The only ones that want to see Dons taxes are those who would never ever vote for him anyway so not hurting him but irritating the hell out of Hillary who is now using a porn star to tout how she is for women and Donald is so mean The poor girl just cant get away from being exploited. Something he said 20 years ago that she can remember but nothing about security in a job she recently held. The logic behind this doesnt pass the smell test at all.

@Richard Wheeler: Why should he? Why should only Republicans be open and transparent? He’ll get no points for releasing them and hammered for being rich… like Romney did. Meanwhile, Hillary donates $6 million to charity… HERSELF… and not a peep from the corrupt MSM.

Personally, I would like to see them, but I think he should stand his ground and tell everyone hypocritically demanding HIS openness to just shove it.

@Bill- Deplorable Me: Why should he? Because he’s running for POTUS AND THAT’S WHAT IS DONE. The MSM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
The continued refusal will cost him The Presidency

@Richard Wheeler: Simple question Rich, is it required to be President. Let me help you, NO!! He said he would produce them if hilldabeast produces health records, isn’t that a fair deal given her obvious health issues??

@Common Sense:She released her health records–think you mean E-Mails Name the last POTUS finalist that did not release his tax returns?

Trump’s biggest liability is that he’s classless. Doesn’t seem to bother his supporters. It bothers me.

@Richard Wheeler: Rumor has it Donald sent his entire return to Hillary long ago! He E-mailed it to her 😉

@Richard Wheeler: Sorry, but your liberals have changed the rules. It’s time EVERYONE got to play by them.

Trump is classless? Hillary is a classless, unsympathetic, crass, vulgar, evil liar. Trump is miles above her in class, character and honesty. She is a piece of trash.

@Richard Wheeler: Richard Nixon after elected he did his losing opponents released theirs, Gerald Ford kept his private. All presidential and vice presidential candidates were required to release certain financial documents as a result of the Ethics in Government Act of 1978, which mandates all candidates running for office of President of the United States to file a Public Financial Disclosure Report with the Federal Election Commission. So he isnt hiding how rich he is Another Hillary lie.

@kitt: He’s probably hiding the fact he paid less taxes than his secretaries.
Are you saying every major POTUS candidate in the last 44 years–since Ford– has released their tax returns?

RT Will Trump show up for the 2nd debate??

@Bill… Deplorable Me: You’re talking to the wrong guy. I’m voting for Clifton Roberts.
Badmouth HRC all you want—Trump is STILL classless and the majority of American voters concur.

NOTE For the first time in many election cycles the majority of college educated Whites Do Not support the Repub. nominee.

@Richard Wheeler: Rich, I would like to have her go through and independent health examination and of course her e-mails which we know she has lied about those for certain. Now let’s try a yes or no question. Is a Presidential Nominee required to provide his/her tax returns in order to be elected President?? Yes or no will do.

@Common Sense: @Common Sense: There are many things that are not required but are traditional—I believe all candidates for the last 40+ years have done so—what’s he hiding—voters want to know.
Trump is overweight–probably no healthier than the other 70 -actually 69 year old running.

@Richard Wheeler: Liberals are YOURS.

@Bill… Deplorable Me: And you own Trump.
He’s not gonna win and as sure as the sun comes up you’ll say the fix was in and blame the media.

@Richard Wheeler: He’s probably hiding the fact he paid less taxes than his secretaries. I hope he hasnt paid that much, he has hired the best tax attorneys. Maybe he got a Yuge refund!

@Richard Wheeler: Simple yes or no Rich. Do I really need to repeat the question? Your speculating about all of it. I asking an objective question without speculation.

@Richard Wheeler: The first debate the fix was in for sure. It is known that dead people voted for her in the primaries in Colorado. These are facts Rich. I fail to understand why there is NO voter ID requirement yet you must show an ID to by cross counter drugs.

@Richard Wheeler: @Common Sense: My answer is in #38–dead people voting a fact?you’re brainwashed–Obama won twice fair and square–Trump is gonna lose. Repubs will surely claim a fix. Very bad sports.

OFF TOPIC and working my 2nd glass of Riesling—Any American male that doesn’t think Megyn Kelly is smart and hot has a problem.

@Richard Wheeler: Do you think the media has treated Trump the same as they have treated Hillary, Obama and Bernie?

@Richard Wheeler: NO problem here.

@Bill- Deplorable Me: I think the media helped make Trump.

@Common Sense #43 –

“It is known that dead people voted for her in the primaries in Colorado.”

Wrong. The Dems in Colorado did not run a primary. They ran a caucus just like the Repubs. At their county and state conventions, the Sanders campaign outflanked the Clinton campaign and won the lion share of convention delegates.

As a whole, Colorado makes a very good effort at removing the deceased from the voter rolls. When my mom died earlier this year, her state ID card and voter registration were automatically voided. My dad, nor I, did not have to call an agency to notify them. The SoS office works closely with the counties in this regard. Are they 100% perfect? No. If you’re looking for a 100% perfect system, you won’t find one.

“… why there is NO voter ID requirement …”

In Colorado, you must provide proof of identity. While Colorado sends out mail ballots to every registered voter, if you use the ballot, you must provide your CO driver’s license number or state ID card number and expiration date. If you fail to do that, your ballot is invalidated. If you vote in person at a voting station, again, you need to provide your CO driver’s license number or state ID card number. A person can vote provisional, but will not count if the election offcials cannot establish/confirm your eligibility.