The America you know will be dead in ten years

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America really is at a tipping point. Donald Trump is going to lose the coming election because he’s an idiot. In so doing, Trump’s failure will leave a legacy- the death of America as we know it. Sarah Palin would have run a better campaign. My Sheltie could have run a better campaign. This is real shame because people are dying to vote for someone out of the system. They are desperate for a fresh face- someone to represent them and not Wall St and billionaires. Trump blew it because he’s such as ass. America’s death spiral began with the election of barack obama. The corruption and lawlessness of the obama regime is nothing less than spectacular and the signs are everywhere. obama  immediately began to assure his re-election by using the IRS to target conservatives and limit their freedom of speech. This malfeasance was widespread:

Internal Revenue Service (IRS) officials orchestrated a complex scheme to dump conservative and Tea Party non-profit applicants into a bureaucratic “black hole,” according to FBI documents made public Monday by a government watchdog group.

The documents describe how the IRS targeted the groups applying for tax exemptions beginning in 2010 and continuing beyond the 2012 election in a scandal that culminated in top agency official Lois Lerner’s retirement following a series of investigations.

The IRS has even destroyed hard drives after they were subpoenaed.

Eight months after Congress requested emails from embattled IRS official Lois Lerner, tax agency employees “magnetically erased” hundreds of backup tapes.

“The IRS did not put forth an effort to locate and preserve the backup tapes,” said Timothy Camus, deputy inspector general for investigations with the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration. He said 422 backup tapes were destroyed.

These are violations of the law. Who has been held accountable for any of this? No one. In fact, the IRS boss John Koskinen, chooses to ignore Congressional subpoenas and the DOJ does nothing.

Obama routinely violates the Constitution:

President Obama has shown a penchant for ignoring the plain language of our laws. He unilaterally rewrote the employer mandate and several other provisions of the Affordable Care Act, failing to faithfully execute a law which declares, unambiguously, that these provisions “shall” apply beginning Jan. 1, 2014. Similarly, in suspending deportation for a class of young people who entered this country illegally, the president defied the Immigration and Nationality Act, which states that any alien who is “inadmissible at the time of entry” into the country “shall” be removed.

The only strength gained by unilateral presidential lawmaking is raw speed: policies can be implemented more swiftly by unilateral presidential action than by congressional deliberation and debate. But the dangers are many, and should counsel any American — of whatever political persuasion — that such dispatch comes at a high constitutional cost.

When the president fails to execute a law as written, he not only erodes the separation of powers, he breeds disrespect for the rule of law and increases political polarization. The president’s own party — for example, the current Democrat-controlled Senate — will face intense pressure to elevate short-term, partisan victory over defending constitutional principles. If partisan preferences prevail, Congress will be unable, as an institution, to check presidential ambition and defend its lawmaking prerogative.

Once such precedent is established, damage to the constitutional architecture is permanent. The next president of a different party will face similar pressures and undo all the previous actions. He will initiate a new round of unilateral lawmaking, satisfying his own political base. The law will fluctuate back and forth, and our legislature will become little more than a rubber stamp for a single elected individual, which is not how representative government is supposed to work.

It’s gotten so bad that this regime is openly advertising to illegals how to dodge the laws.

Just about any illegal alien can avoid arrest by following these simple rules, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) advertises in a post on its website’s homepage.

Providing a virtual “how-to” guide for illegal aliens in its“Sensitive Locations FAQs,” CBP explains that immigration laws are not to be enforced at any of a wide range of designated “sensitive locations” – so that illegal aliens may be “free” to live their lives “without fear or hesitation”

James Comey has shown us that the FBI is toothless and impotent, unless it’s the political persecution of a conservative.

obama has severely damaged this nation and a President Hillary Clinton will finish the job. Tucker Carlson also has noted this:

“This is a pivot point in American history,” Carlson said. “If Hillary is elected – everyone is focused on her deficits as a person. The truth is it’s her policies. She’s going to open the borders, pack the Supreme Court and you are not going to have the same country. Maybe you like that, maybe you don’t. But we’re not going back to the status quo, period. And so Republicans need to understand if Trump loses, it is a new America, OK? A lot is on the line, whether you like him or not. That is real.”

They’ve already given us a peek into the future of a Clinton Presidency.

Clinton promised to rewrite the First Amendment

Hillary Clinton wants to win over Bernie Sanders voters, and on Saturday she bid for them by reinforcing her promise to rewrite the First Amendment to limit political speech that she and they don’t like.

“Today, I’m announcing that in my first 30 days as President, I will propose a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United and give the American people—all of us—the chance to reclaim our democracy,” Mrs. Clinton said in a taped speech to the Netroots Nation conference of progressives. First 30 days? Who knew the 225-year-old First Amendment was in need of such urgent revision?

Snowflake liberals try to prevent conservatives from speaking at colleges Under a progressive Clinton they will be banned entirely.

Anyone in possession of a Confederate flag will be arrested and see his or her employment terminated.

Anyone engaging in anti-Muslim rhetoric will be prosecuted.

Genital mutilation will become acceptable as Islamic tradition.

Colleges will expand draconian restrictions of free speech.

Climate change deniers will be prosecuted.

Conservatives will routinely be assaulted in public.

Clinton will seize your guns:

“So I’m going to speak out. I’m going to do everything I can to rally people against this pernicious, corrupting influence of the NRA, and we’re going to do whatever we can. I’m proud when my husband took them on and we were able to ban assault weapons but he had to put a sunset on it so, 10 years later, of course, Bush wouldn’t agree to reinstate them. We’ve got to go after this. Here again, the Supreme Court is wrong on the Second Amendment and I am going to make that case every chance I get.”

And they’ve told us how it will go down:

If your goal is an outright gun ban, you need to use terms such as “common sense gun legislation” to fool the public, a Hillary Clinton campaign delegate admitted in a recent undercover sting video released exclusively to Infowars.

“Saying you want to ban guns altogether, that’s going to piss everybody off,” the Clinton alternate delegate, Mary Bayer, told a Project Veritas reporter.

Instead, Bayer revealed, Democrats use “moderate” language when it comes to guns to obscure their true purpose, a complete elimination of the Second Amendment.

“You have to take that sort of moderate… ‘We just wanna have common sense legislation so our children are safe!’” Bayer told the reporter, adding, “You say shit like that, and then people will buy into it.”

Bayer also admitted Hillary “for sure” would support banning guns, and said the only way to actualize that goal would be to “get Democrats in office.”

But before that a gun owner database will be established and all legal owners will be tracked. That’s actually happening now.

If it sounds over the top, remember- who’s going to stop her? Who has stopped obama? obama ignores Supreme Court decisions.  Clinton’s likely to be nominating several to SCOTUS and will be choosing from a Who’s Who of progressives. Nothing will be found unconstitutional. Illegals will be given the right to vote the second they cross the border. What are now progressive aspirations will become realities.

The GOP will disappear. America will be a one party country, just like Russia. This country will not be recognizable.

All thanks to Donald Trump.

 

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Ahh Kitt in case you haven’t noticed the young vote Dem
Your instruction was ignored by the younger and youngest generations

@john: So you ignore instructing your youth, I will continue to teach, Gardening, hunting, cooking, math, reading, civics, personal responsibility, tolerance ect…if a bit sinks in cool, no waste of my time I get to be with the grandkids a reward in itself.

@john

:in case you haven’t noticed the young vote Dem

Let’s see if I can interpret that for you. Young, inexperienced, uneducated, free loaders equal Dimocrat vs Older, more experienced, more educated, have money in the bank equal Conservative? That about right?

You spewed, “…most stolen from other candidates…”

Horseshit. Cruz entered the race 6 months before Trump and said nothing about building a wall or suspending moslim immigration. In fact his globalism so infected him, he went to the border with Batshit Crazy Beck to welcome 100s of incoming illegals with soccer balls & teddy bears.

Wait, you were for Jeb! and his Act of Love Immigration Plan, right?

Or was it Carly and her love of Islam?

Here’s the facts for you and this idiot writer-it’s either going to be Trump or Hillary. OOH you’ll get tax reductions, fair trade, secure borders and an immigration respite.

OTOH you can kiss 2A & 1A adios-from Hillary now on, the black robed bastards will be deciding everything with 3 or 4 more Sotomayors.

So quit your bitching and go to war with the army we have not the one in your Unicorn Dreams.

Lord, the stupid, it hurtz.

Are these posts meant to bring joy to the Dems?

@MM: tsk tsk tsk you cant spew crap to those that have any memory
But if we go back to May 9, 2013, we find that Ted Cruz was not only speaking in favor of a border fence, but pushing hard for it legislatively:

A Senate committee rejected an immigration-legislation amendment offered by Sen. Ted Cruz today that would have added significant security resources along the U.S.-Mexico border.

The amendment proposed tripling the number of Border Patrol agents stationed along the U.S.-Mexico border and quadrupling equipment, “including cameras, sensors, drones and helicopters,” within three years. And the 700 miles of border fence required by a 2006 law would need to be finished.

And what was Donald Trump talking about during this time? Not a border fence, that’s for sure. Instead, just a few months earlier, Trump was saying that Mitt Romney’s self-deportation program was “mean-spirited,”
Tell us how bad stupid hurtz are you taking your pain meds?

@kitt: Kitt I was talking to some young Bernie activists yesterday–believe DNC and HRC stole primary–won’t vote for her or Trump”two of a kind” Believe Bernie endorsement came only after Clinton threats.
Here’s the kicker. They’ve seen the history of Clinton Trump friendship. They believe Bill met with Donald, pushed him to get in as a plant to assure Hillary Prez.

From the mouths of babes—they truly believe it

@Richard Wheeler: well Bernie has millions of supporters I am sure that they have a wide range of opinions on such things
About 90% will support Clinton
When(?) Bill approached Don (???) to run I guess(?) only a master politician like Bill Could have seen how easily GOP primary voters could be suckered into supporting such a con man/grifter as the Donald
Was that your point ???that the Dems so easily suckers the GOP ??
Just how stupid are GOP primary voters ???

@kitt:

The most successful state economy in the nation — the world’s 5th or 6th largest economies — is TOTALLY run by Democrats. Considering all of our diversity and burdens — same debt to GDP ratio as TX; less than 10% uninsured compared to 25% uninsured. Ten times the venture capital investment — DESPITE having effectively ratified the Kyoto climate change treaty. Net contributor of $55 Billion per year to Fed treasury, compared to all those red state trough feeders.

Gimme a break. Yours gets the foolish comment if the day award.

@john: That is exactly the point.
Like you I believe 80-90% of Bernie supporters will support HRC.These Bernieites swear that won’t happen They’ll vote 3rd Party or not at all..
They believe the Clinton machine stole the Primary and is in bed with Trump to insure crooked Hillary’s election

@Richard Wheeler:

From the mouths of babes—they truly believe it

Lot of fruitcakes in the world.

@john:

Just how stupid are GOP primary voters ???

Not stupid enough to vote for Hillary or Bernie.

But apparently as was said here stupid enough to vote for the man, Trump, that Bill convinced to run opposite her for an easy victory

@Dr. John:

“Genital mutilation will become acceptable as Islamic tradition.”

Well, considering that genital mutilation is ALREADY acceptable Judeo-Christian tradition, what difference does it make if the Islamic version of the tradition is adhered to by members of THAT faith?

@Richard Wheeler: With Sanders endorsement his suicide has been posponed

@Larry Weusrnthal: I looked up on forbes site and its Utah , Utah is perhaps the most Republican state in the union, having voted Republican by at least 19 percentage points in every presidential election after 1964.
You seem to have left out the name of this Dem dreamland.
Maybe its one of those great dem run cities http://www.scragged.com/articles/democrat-disaster-cities

@George Wells: I suppose you’re talking about circumcism, I don’t agree that that procedure is something that should be ‘standard’. I think human bodies should be born as they are created. The owner decides what modifications to make.

@Redteam: I could find no health reasons or benefits for female circumcision but a few for male

A decreased risk of urinary tract infections.
A reduced risk of some sexually transmitted diseases in men.
Protection against penile cancer and a reduced risk of cervical cancer in female sex partners.
Prevention of balanitis (inflammation of the glans) and balanoposthitis (inflammation of the glans and foreskin).
Prevention of phimosis (the inability to retract the foreskin) and paraphimosis (the inability to return the foreskin to its original location).
Circumcision also makes it easier to keep the end of the penis clean.
I hear the debate rages on. I leave it to the guys.

@kitt:

That poorest cities trope is false causality. Spend five min on Google and read serious economists.

You are seriously comparing Lilly white little bitty teeny tiny non drinking non smoking 60% Mormon Utah to CA? The closest comparison is Texas. One state true blue and the other scarlet red. Another good comparable state comparison would be MN vs WI

BTW, female genital mutilation is NOT an Islamic thing. It’s a horrible ritual confined to relatively small regions of Africa and its cultural and not religious. Just Google it,

The medical benefits of male circumcision are well established. Men who had it defend it; men who haven’t attack it. There are excellent arguments to be made both pro and con. I’ve never heard of a “cut” guy ever express any remorse over the decision by his parents to have fond ahead with it — has anyone heard any such remorse?

@George Wells: George, Did you even click the link?
It is little girls (ages 4 through 9) who are being sliced up.
Almost 50,000 in the USA just last year……that we know of.
Of those badly wounded female survivors of the French Bataclan nightclub attack, ask them how they are coping with their FGMs.
Oh, wait, you can’t.
The media has blacked out that side of the story even relating to those dead females.

So you’ll be voting for Hillary by staying home and you’re wondering where the stupid iz???

You mean thanks to the GOPe who has been in bed with libs for decades, the soft headed lib voters, the idiots who give liberals the benefit of the doubt and also don’t educate their kids, and the Marxists who lead them all.

Do you have a liberal relative? Do they clearly understand the indictment against them? Or do you want to “get along”? How about spouses or spouses of friends? Do you play nice while liberals make war? Then I blame you too.

@Larry Weisenthal: CA is one of the least financially stable states oh if you are talking excessive taxes, people fleeing, over regulation and businesses leaving the state, they rank at the top in those catagories.
Who said female circumcision was an Islamic thing? Not me, I just tried to find a medical reason. There is none, seems to be carried out by the female traditionalists Northern Africa and the ME, I did look a bit before commenting.
Packer Colts 7pm kick off

@kitt:

Where the heck you you get that, Kitt???

I mean

You know nothing at all about CA — NOTHING!

I live on a 70 x 100 foot lot in a chicken wire and plaster house which is 1900 square feet with 3 BR and 2 baths that currently has a zillow valuation of $1,100,000.

THAT’s the only problem that CA has. Everyone wants to live here. Vastly more high income Texans move to CA than vice versa. So the problem is that people can’t afford to live here. Supply and demand. Too much demand; not enough supply. Victims of our own success.

Taxes are TRIVIAL! The median income Californian pays lower taxes than the median income Texan. High income Texans make out like bandits, compared to in CA — but still high income Texans move here at greater rates than vice versa.

The problem for businesses and middle class Californians is NOT “taxes and regulations,” it’s the high cost of housing (and related traffic congestion) BECAUSE EVERYONE WANTS TO LIVE HERE!!!

Everything I wrote was true. CA has the SAME debt to GDP ratio at Texas. So much for financial mismanagement. We have LESS than a 10% uninsured (health care) rate; Texas is at 25%. We get TEN TIMES the VC investment (which is the future business of America) and the VCs vote with their wallets. $55 billion surplus sent to DC — give us that $55B back, and we’d eliminate homelessness and give free four year college to everyone.

We have the most stringent environmental/CO2 emissions regulation in the nation. When I moved here, our air was brown; today it’s bright blue and getting better every day. Environmental regulations at work for the lungs of the common man (and woman and children).

The Democratic Party priorities are so popular that we are one of the bluest states in the nation — and we are the largest — as big as one of the biggest and most important countries in the world. And college educated white people get this. Overwhelming endorsement of Demcratic party candidates by college educated, white Californians. Just like the majority of college educated white people nationally are supporting Hillary over The Donald. (preemptive strike against snarky remarks about the 47% “takers).

Tea Party conservatism has NO FUTURE in America. It’s over.

The two greatest Presidents of my lifetime, in terms of lasting achievement, were Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon. One Democrat. One Republican. Both personally flawed, but both visionary, courageous, and effective.

Eisenhower was good; Ford was acceptable. Reagan was a disaster, because of the introduction of Voodoo economics which have been a curse on our economy for the past 35 years. GHW Bush was decent. G W Bush had his heart in the right place, but was in over his head.

Donald Trump is horrible, horrible, horrible. He is going to lose — badly.

I’m hoping that this will lead to a future resurgence of the traditional GOP of reasonable, rational, pragmatic conservatism.

– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach

@Larry Weisenthal: While FGM does not appear to be exclusively a Muslim thing, it is clearly a Muslim thing. Other countries/nationalities seem to have been heavily influenced by Muslims.

@MM: Exactly! Dr. John start practicing saying this, “Madam President”, cause that’s what you seem to be shooting for.

@Poppa_T:

“Madam President”

But Poppa, that’s English, isn’t it? How would John say it in his language?

@Larry Weisenthal: You are seriously comparing Lilly white little bitty teeny tiny non drinking non smoking 60% Mormon Utah to CA?

Larry, Utah is a scant 50% LDS, Mormon.
Scant.
Those who are not Mormon smoke and drink like everywhere else in the country.
One difference, Utahans buy alcohol at State Liquor Stores.
And another, you cannot go into a restaurant and order a drink.
You must FIRST order your food!

Coffee houses abound.
Smoke shops abound, too.
Utah has plenty of minorities, too.
The main difference between Utah’s minorities and CA’s is that there is no sense of entitlement among those minorities in Utah as they mostly came here from foreign lands married to their Mormon missionary. There are Siberians, Mongolians, Tibetans, Nepalese, every country in Africa has people here, every country in Central and South America has, too.

To go from idea to open doors in Utah is 3 months.
To go from idea to open doors in CA is YEARS.
That is a major difference.

@ Redteam #67:

“I suppose you’re talking about circumcism, I don’t agree that that procedure is something that should be ‘standard’. I think human bodies should be born as they are created. The owner decides what modifications to make.”

Ideally, that would be how it works, but that’s not what happens. If it was done, your parents will have it done to you when you are a wee lad with no idea at all about what’s being done, or why. All that crap that Kitt threw up had nothing to do with why ancient Jews jumped on the male circumcision bandwagon, or why the custom of clipping dicks has been popular in many Western cultures.

It certainly makes a lot of sense that female circumcision is a more difficult and risky undertaking than the male version, considering the greater accessibility of the male gonads, and it is for this reason that a vasectomy costs much less than a hysterectomy. (To your irrelevant point, Nanny G.)
And to Nanny G’s other point – that girls 4-9 YEARS old are being sliced up – why isn’t she alarmed that boys 4-9 WEEKS old are being so sliced?

Note that I am not a proponent of EITHER custom, male OR female. ALL of the so-called benefits of male circumcision would be effectively eliminated by proper hygienic habits, and in places where such habits are NOT in place, other risk factors overwhelm the slight benefits attributable to male circumcision. The TRUELY essential point is that BOTH customs are primitive, barbaric excuses to mutilate defenseless children, and as such BOTH will someday become extinct.

@George Wells: boys 4-9 WEEKS old are being so sliced…

Boys are snipped either shortly after birth or within the first two weeks.
In some cultures in 3rd world countries, some males are cut at puberty as one part of their manhood rites.

Circumcision can provide the following benefits:

Prevention of urinary tract infections in infants
Prevention of penile cancer in adult men
A reduction in the risk of sexually transmitted diseases

But, the rate of complications/infections ranges from 0.1%-3.5%.

OTOH, Female Genital Mutilation has NO benefits.
And is designed to destroy sexual pleasure on the part of the female.
Complications are more common.
Death is one.
Becoming a cripple is another.
Urinary incontinence is common.
Infections including tetanus from filthy conditions is most common.
Continuing infection of the bladder due to sewing the area shut until marriage is another.

It is apples VS oranges, this comparison of circumcision between men and women.

@Larry Weisenthal: I considered Forbes a serious source, perhaps better, a MSNBC financial person to tell you that the large cities Democratic run are doing great. I dont consider heavy unfunded liabilities, running up the old credit card for short term comfort, to be fiscally sound.
What is the source you recommend?
http://www.newyorker.com/business/currency/the-california-comeback-myth
http://www.newsmax.com/Finance/StreetTalk/California-Economic-Collapse-Pension/2015/05/05/id/64269
http://mercatus.org/statefiscalrankings
I know these are like “Teen Beat” mag right?

@George Wells: We agree on this subject George.

#81:

Good.

Note that Nanny G is still supporting male genital mutilation. She has evidently been brainwashed by the same forces that RATIONALLY support female genital mutilation. (I acknowledge that eliminating a female’s ability to enjoy sex has an understandably chilling effect on that female’s interest in fooling around – the practice is rooted in a rational interest and is thus NOT insane.) The practice is consistent with the archaic perspective that women are inferior to men and also are the property OF the father until he marries her off to a prospective husband in exchange for OTHER property. Interesting that this archaic perspective is not entirely absent in this modern time and is even present on the fringes of our own culture.

Actually, Third party candidate Gary Johnson Leads in the 18-24 demographic over both Clinton and Trump. According to the Marist Poll when asked which of the four candidates they would choose Johnson came in with 35% Clinton with 30% Jill stein of the Green Party 14% and Trump brings up the hind tit with 12%. Further, 48% said they identify as neither Republican or Democrat. When it comes to it there trans-political.

@Naomi Stan:

According to the Marist Poll

What the marist polls show is that the average 18-24 year old is stupid as to politics. I know lot’s of young people in that age group and they are totally clueless politically. 99 out of a 100 don’t even know who the candidates are. None of them have any idea what Hillary or Trumps positions on any issues are. They only read what is ‘snapped’ or ‘tweeted’ or ‘texted’ to them by some bozo. Many of them think Karl Marx is on the ticket with Hillary. Many of them think Alinsky is a teacher in high school. I mean, we’re talking bright, educated young people here.

@Larry Weisenthal: I live on a 70 x 100 foot lot in a chicken wire and plaster house which is 1900 square feet with 3 BR and 2 baths that currently has a zillow valuation of $1,100,000.
So you live in an over-priced chicken coop, and that makes California fiscally sound, you went off Larry, down a rabbit hole. I am glad for you but my 100 bucks will go so much further than your 100 bucks, lots of water here, no smog, few liberal freaks that call hazmat for a spilled diet coke. Hardly anyone here gets their panties in a wad at the sight of a gun.
Free college will be exactly worth what the kids pay for it. Years back HighSchool grad used to be a big deal…look it up you are too young or poorly educated to know that.
You know what the Valley girls say, whatever…

You spewed, “THAT’s the only problem that CA has. Everyone wants to live here. ”

Wow, delusional they name is Larry.

Millions of illegals, government caused drought, taxes & regulations that have driven over 9,000 businesses out of state since Brown was reelected, no go gang zones, unemployment through the roof in central CA, high speed trains to no where, total disregard for 2A, state universities turning out millions of functioning literate maroons…

Every western state east of CA has experienced some level of “Californication” as even your REgressive inhabitants can’t take the taxes and regulations anymore and abandon ship. CO, where I lived until recently has seen such a large influx of rabid REgressive, CA idiots, it has virtually turned the state from a solid conservative to one that is more blue then purple.

Personally I stopped visiting in the mid 70s and I certainly DO NOT want to live there.

And you think a real estate bubble is the ONLY problem??? Dude, you’re just supposed to the drink cool-aid not bury your head in the pitcher.

@MM:
Of course you are entitled to your own opinion,but you aen’t entitled to your own “facts” Since Brown was elected CA has lost a bit more than 1000 businesses each year. WOW 1000 IS a big number ! But is it significant ?
In the USA each year about 500000 new businesses are opened each year. About 10% of those are in CA which has slightly more than 10% of the population of the USA
That means each year 50000 NEW businesses are opened in CA
1000 (a bit more) leave CA each year.
Which number is bigger MM 50000 or 1000????
As for no longer visiting CA, well I am sure they deeply mourn that loss.
CO is rapidly turning from purple to blue, either accept it or move
http://www.gallup.com/businessjournal/180431/american-entrepreneurship-dead-alive.aspx
You can also see (painful as it may be) that under Obama the rate of newly opening businesses has gone up from 2009
http://www.bls.gov/bdm/entrepreneurship/entrepreneurship.htm

@john: A dot gov site realllly????try this https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-californialand-startupsis-least-friendly-small-business-lieber
Not darn likely the government website would admit it is not helping start-ups with taxes and regulation, ease of starting a business ect ect ect.
Next Hillary will admit she is too ill to take office and she knew the classified emails were illegal.

Gee the picture you paint sure is rosy. I guess having a cardboard box assessed at $1.1M might do that. You’ll end up doing what too many of your REgressive buds have done, sell out and take your money & idiotic ideas to some poor place like CO and pollute them.

9000 businesses leaving the state might not seem like a big deal but I guarantee you these businesses were employing 10s of 1,000s of people and were paying property taxes and are now doing that some where else vs your 50,000(?) garage start ups. -snicksnick-

From IBD 4/16
The American Legislative Exchange Council says that California has the fourth-highest tax burden in the country. The state’s top marginal income tax rate ranks dead last in the country, says ALEC, and its top marginal corporate rate is not much better (40th). Its personal income tax progressivity is last.

ALEC also reports that California’s civil court system is among the worst and ranks 44th in economic outlook. Both of these facts are demoralizing for businesses.

ALEC further noted that only New York had a higher net domestic out-migration than California from 2004 to 2013, when 1,394,911 abandoned the Left Coast’s flagship state.

Last year, business location consultant Joseph Vranich wrote in a study of what he calls “divestment events” that “in California, costs to run a business are higher than in other states and nations — largely due to the state’s tax and regulatory policies — and the business climate shows little chance of improving,”

Vranich counted more than 1,500 divestment events in California from 2008 to 2014 but believes that number probably undercounts the actual sum by a factor of 5 to 1. So the real level of disinvestment is likely much higher.

Apparently, California lawmakers haven’t been paying attention. Vranich reported Wednesday that the state legislature is still considering “more business-bashing, job-killing bills.”

“We need only look at the newest summary of legislation that the California Chamber of Commerce issued yesterday,” Vranich wrote in his blog. “Seeing some of the shocking language in the bills . . . makes me wonder what planet Sacramento legislators came from, or perhaps I should say what solar system California voters came from.”

Vranich makes a valid point. The California voters who keep putting the same always-erring politicians in office are from some odd corner of the universe. But they’re not the ones leaving, and their continued presence is only going to keep the California exit ramp jammed with refugees.

Yeah, great palace, over run with millions of illegals, an out of control 1 party legislature, high speed trains to no where, enforced drought on the hapless communities in central CA, high taxes, needless environmental regulations costing 10s of billions, a stock market bubble feeding billions in fairy dust money to keep the welfare masses placated…

Wow, wouldn’t touch it with a 10 foot pole.

I left CO years ago because scummy REgressives overflowing Denver & Boulder turned the state into a political shithole. You’d probably feel right at home with them. Many from CA too who left the nightmare there and brought their idiocy with them.

@MM:
Companies are interested in 2 things,
Profits and shareholder value
Ever wonder why the largest and most valuable companies are located in CA and not Colorado Springs?
When there are 50000 new companies being formed in CA each year the 1000 companies that leave each year are not really significant are they?
There are many reasons why CA represents 10% of the entire USA economy, one is that CA attacks the best and brightest
Who moves out? Mostly those who can no longer afford it, the poor and retirees where is the economy of CO the strongest ? In the newly liberated Democratic zones
And yes we are happy that they are spreading their tolerant liberal values to other states
CO is already a deep purple state, next on our super secret SOROS master plan is Texas which now has dropped to 54% GOP in the last POTUS election
In 2016 it may go to 51%
Then ……………?????

How’d this work out for you, DONKEY!

@kitt:
This “idiot” as you have deemed him, is now our president, will America as we know it still be dead in 10 years?
His promises to “clean the swamp” are quite a joke after seeing his nominations and appointees.

@Erin: we will wait and watch give him a chance cant be worse than the last 8

Guess he wasn’t “an idiot” after all, and maybe your “Sheltie” couldn’t have run a better campaign after all. Who’s the idiot now?

@kitt, #94:

can’t be worse than the last 8

It most certainly can be. It always amazes me when people say such totally nonsensical things.

@Greg: really 94% of all the employment numbers provided were part time, even at 15 bucks an hour you cant live on a part time job, that was directly caused by his unaffordable nonhealthcare , making more burdens to society was all he was good at. Honestly I did not want to have to vote for trump but Hillary only ran on I will be the first female president, she would have only accelerated the current policies that are draining the country. Who screwed off the top of your head and crapped inside it?

@kitt

:Who screwed off the top of your head and crapped inside it?

He was created that way. Unemployment is the worst it’s been since the great depression. Greg’s definition: 95 men want and need a job. they have been looking for two years. 5 more lose their jobs and are put on unemployment. Now there are 100 out of work. the ‘Greg and Obama’ unemployment rate is 5% because only 5 of them are eligible for unemployment benefits. The other 95 are ‘out of the work force’ so they don’t count, even though they still want and need a job. :That about it greg?

@kitt, #101:

Who screwed off the top of your head and crapped inside it?

I’m not the one around here whose head is full of sh-t:

Not only is the unemployment rate historically low; the labor force participation rate isn’t at all bad either, by historical standards:

US unemployment rate fell to 4.6 percent in November 2016 from 4.9 percent in the previous month and well below market expectations of 4.9 percent. It was the lowest jobless rate since August 2007, as the number of unemployed persons declined by 387 thousand to 7.4 million while the labor force participation rate decreased by 0.1 percentage point to 62.7 percent. Unemployment Rate in the United States averaged 5.81 percent from 1948 until 2016, reaching an all time high of 10.80 percent in November of 1982 and a record low of 2.50 percent in May of 1953.

Here’s a chart plotting the U.S. labor force participation rate from 1950 through present. As with the unemployment rate, the computations are done pretty much the same way they have been for years.

You’re living in a right-wing propaganda induced fantasy world. The numbers simply don’t correspond to the story you’re telling. That’s not to say there aren’t communities all across America where unemployment is very high and opportunities are few. That’s most certainly an entirely real situation. It doesn’t however, mean that it’s the general situation, fixable by way of some obvious general solution that Obama has ignored.

As much as anything, the problem is because of a changing global economy featuring extensive 2nd and 3rd world industrialization, and rapidly advancing technology that has automated many of the semi-skilled jobs of an earlier era out of existence. Many politicians don’t like to admit that because they don’t have any simple solutions to offer. They find it more beneficial to claim the numbers are a deception, and to harness the anger to pull their political wagon.

Talk about drinking kool-aid.

If unemployment was measured the same way it was in 1980, true unemployment would be close to 20%. The labor participation rate is the lowest it has been since the 70s. I bet you believe inflation is 2% and Obama/Jarrett have managed the best recovery in history too.

You’re spouting REgressive talking points. Our government has regulated millions of jobs off shore.

Lord, wake up and smell the coffee.