An open letter to those who support Trump…And we all you know who you are. (Guest Post)

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Those of you who support Trump and still consider yourselves to be patriotic have a duty to carefully consider the evidence at hand on what is going on in the party.

First, of all, you need to carefully think about why up to 12 Million Democrats temporarily crossed over to support Trump during the primaries. And you have to consider why a hostile press supported Trump with free airtime during this time period.

Note that similar events took place in previous elections with disastrous results.

Second, you also have a duty to thoughtfully reflect on the fact that most polls and analysis shown Trump losing in an electoral bloodbath.

Again, in recent presidential elections the polls and analysis indicated a certain result and that was borne out in the election.

Third, There is also the very strange case of a presidential candidate taking action against his own interests, making unforced errors such as the attacks on the judge in the Trump U fraud case or espousing policy positions directly opposite to Conservative principles e.g. raising taxes and denigrating the 2nd amendment.

These events should be bothersome to all of those who support Trump and yet many do not care.
One can debate certain parts of these events, but it is reckless to dismiss them in their entirety.

These are very dangerous aspects that should serve as a big flashing WARNING sign to Trump supporters – if they were interested in winning. And yet some supporters dismiss these items without a second thought – Why?

Ask yourself these questions:

Why would the Democrats desperately want Trump to be the nominee?

Why are some Trump supporters not bothered the polling and analysis that shows him losing in an electoral disaster of epic proportions?

Why are some Trump supporters not alarmed by his actions that sabotage his own campaign?

The purpose of this open letter is to plead with those who support Trump to consider the evidence at hand and help avoid setting a temporary mistake in stone that very well could be the grave marker for the party.. and the nation as constituted.

This is specifically directed at those who in the past have championed the Conservative cause: Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham, Matt Drudge… Like many others, I had been a loyal fan and listener to your programs and books over the years. So you people above all others need to consider the evidence in front of you and make the right decision.

The evidence I have presented should be the impetus for you to reconsider your support for Trump.

To be blunt about it: There is no rational point to supporting a candidate who will lose and take down the rest of the party with him. As previously stated, there are some in the Trump movement who are immune to facts and reality. Thus, there is only one logical conclusion for their actions and that is to have him lose and help Comrade Clinton win.

But those of you who can process this evidence with a clear mind should be able to make this determination on your own.

Those of you in the formerly Conservative media can find redemption in what you do now. You along with every other true patriots in the Trump camp should be taking the following steps:

1. Seriously consider the evidence at hand and reconsider your support for Trump.

2. Be mindful of the distinct possibility of a down ballot apocalypse IF Trumps remains on the ticket.

[And no, it does not matter that this means we will lose – at least with Trump OFF the ticket we have a chance to win and a good chance to keep control of Congress]

4. Implore Trump to drop out of this farce and let someone qualified take over in his stead.

5. At a minimum you have to encourage and support those who want to #FreetheDelegates and #DumpTrump and let the people decide with the current facts as they stand.

Bottom line: You have to do everything in your power to reverse the horrendous circumstance of Trump nomination and lose in the general election.

I cannot make any guarantees as to how history will judge you, but I can assure that you will not be lauded if you stay on your current path.

You are at a crossroads, stay with Trump down the dark path and you will be marching off to oblivion. Turn against this destination of doom and help save the party and the country and you may be able to continue as you have in the past. Because if he is nominated your fate will be tied to his and those who cannot dwell in reality or worse yet, those who want a Trump disaster.

It is your choice.

It will not be easy, but doing the right thing never is.

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And “we all you know who you are” too, Tor. A terrible writer and a leftist. Only a leftist would try to convince conservatives to elect Hillary. Will you vote for a pro-second amendment, pro law enforcement capitalist, or let an anti-gun, pro BLM, pro-criminal alien socialist win? That is the only choice available.

By the way, polls are showing a tight race, with Trump gaining momentum and Hillary losing it. Rasmussen (one of the most reliable polls) has Trump up by +2 percent. A new Bravo TV (left leaning) call-in poll has Trump 65% Hillary 35%. It is far from over, no matter how much you wish it so.

A new poll released from JMC Analytics in Florida (full pdf) shows Donald Trump leading Hillary Clinton 47% to 42%, and leading with Hispanic voters 49% to 36%.

Rasmussen National Poll of Independents: Trump 44%, Clinton 24%, Undecided 33%

Hillary Clinton’s lead over presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump narrowed to three points. The poll was conducted online with 7,869 registered voters nationwide from July 4 to July 10. It has a plus or minus 1.4 percent margin of error.

Anecdotally, after Orlando’s Pulse nightclub attack, gays have begun rallying around Donald Trump. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gays-rally-around-trump-after-orlando-attacks/article/2593742

And anyone who has been touched by the death of a friend or relative by an illegal is for Trump.

The basic problem with this election has to do with the givens for the Dems in Electoral College votes.
They have the odds-on chances of beating ANY Republican.
((f you add up all of the states that are either “safe” for the eventual Democratic nominee or “favor” that nominee, you get 217 electoral votes. (A candidate needs to win 270 to be elected president.) Do the same for states safe or favoring the Republican standard-bearer, per Gonzales’s rankings, and you get just 191 electoral votes.)) http://rothenberggonzales.com/
See also:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-2016-race-an-electoral-college-edge-for-democrats/2015/03/15/855f2792-cb3c-11e4-a2a7-9517a3a70506_story.html
Doesn’t matter if it is Donald Trump, Ted Cruz or even Jeb Bush.
Ted Cruz cannot garner the GOPe vote.
Possibly fewer GOPe’rs would vote Cruz than Trump!
And Bush?
Why bother voting for him?
He wouldn’t stop illegal immigration.
He’s a globalist.
He is Uniparty-on-the-right while Hillary is Uniparty-on-the-Left, nearly no daylight between them.

So, bottom line question for all those who want to replace Trump.
Who do you think could do better?
I notice a reluctance to name names and add proofs.

My state has an open primary I voted for Trump but of course he didn’t need it. He won easily.

I say Go Trump and Full Throttle !!

Open letter to the GOP establishment:

You have the BALLS to lecture us about electing conservatives????
– We gave you Congress several times in a row, and you did jack shit with those majorities.
– GOP leadership fretted and wrung their hands that “Obama would simply veto our bills so we did not bother”. Congress should have passed bill after bill and sent them to the White House, forcing Obama to have to veto bills every damned week if he really wanted to. If the GOP had done that, the Democrats’ “Party of No” attacks could have been shoved right back in their faces.
– The GOP has been bought out by special interests like the Chamber of Commerce, who are only too happy to have an uncontrolled border – it gives their members cheap labor. GOP talks about border control, but they don’t actually have any intention to do something about it.
– Every election, establishment GOP candidates talk about being conservative, but once in office, they seem perfectly happy with big government. They just want to be able to control it to satisfy their crony buddies, as opposed to the Democrats’ crony buddies.

The GOP establishment is just as bad as the Democrats. I stopped sending money to the GOP after 2011 after it became clear that they were gutless and without principles. The only good thing about the GOP is that at least they aren’t as blatantly anti-american as the modern Democratic Party.

So when the GOP establishment and their minions gets their panties all in a twist when the people vote through the primaries for a non-establishment candidate who promises to shake things up (even if he’s not a total conservative), I say, “GOOD”.

And when the GOP establishment and their minions plot to overthrow the will of the people and subvert the convention to nominate a guy who barely registered in the primaries, I say, “KISS MY ASS”.

Tor, next to being piss poor journalist and and true socialist, why not tell the world of the lesbian, terrorist, intentional broker of American military secrets, a lover and supporter of isis and and the muslin gangs. recall that Mohammad was a cult leader, came a long time after the establishment of Christianity.
Tor, did you buy your degree?
Dreadnought very nicely done

Tor,

You say 12 million Reagan Democrats voted for Trump like it’s a bad thing. In fact, every bad thing you say about Trump was said about Reagan.

Great letter! It’s good to see it has shaken up the Drumpf cultists. They have to be in a panic now.

@Angel Artiste:

Only a leftist would try to convince conservatives to elect Hillary.

Perhaps a reading comprehension course would serve you well. The author of this thread said not one damn thing about electing Shillary. Quite the contrary; he/she encouraged support for the delegation to select another candidate, not the orange-faced carnival barker posing as a Republican.

If you knew your history, which I doubt, you would look to the 1976 Republican convention for a foreboding of the future the 2016 elections of Trump vs. Clinton hold in store.

Frankly, I’m sick of you so-called Republicans that stomp your feet and scream that a non-vote for Trump is a vote for Hillary. Or that those of us who are not willing to forfeit our personal values in order to vote for Trump are somehow “leftists.”

Trump will lose to Hillary and when he does, we will have no one to blame except the Kool-Aid drinkers like yourself who seem to think that shiny objects a candidate makes.

I ridiculed those who were mesmerized by the Greek columns, I am not going to give a pass to those who are now taken in by a carnival barker.

#FreetheDelegates

@Nanny G: A tube sock could do better.

@Angel Artiste: And once again there is the false narrative that someone who opposes both Trump AND Comrade Clinton is somehow a leftist.

Please cite the Facts that Undergirds that false conclusion.

And note, repeating the same accusation will not suffice.

@Angel Artiste: Trump has lead Hillary in only 8 of 70 polls since 1/1 and 4 of those were Rasmussen polls which of course favor T.

@boxty: As in past elections, there were crossover voters who wanted to chose the worst possible candidate for the GOP.

Given the polling and analysis, it very likely that has occurred this time around.

Let’s see. I should support a woman that knowingly used an unsecured server (stored in a bathroom no less) that held highly SCI compartmented information that was hacked by enemy and friendly countries. Included in those emails was the location of Ambassador Stevens. Makes me wonder if it was a calculated maneuver since Stevens had been gun running to a group now called ISIS and that couldn’t get out before the 2012 election. Since two people in the last month have mysteriously died just before testifying against her, I wouldn’t put it past her. Then there is the Benghazi tragedy where she left men to die for the sake of politics. She is a NWO proponent and a socialist. I firmly believe one of the first things she would do was to destroy the Constitution (finish obama’s job) and take away all of our freedoms. It has been proven that the elite, the powerful and the filthy rich get away with criminal acts. Only a fool that doesn’t care about their children’s future or their children’s children’s future would vote for another four years of the destruction of our country. She just like obama talks about themselves. They don’t talk about making our country great nor do they talk about making American citizens the priority. Trump does. I will vote for a man that loves this country and wants to correct or do his best to correct years of abuse and misuse of the American people. Do I like all of his platforms? Of course not. Only a fool would believe they have to agree with 100%.

I want my country back. I want my country to be great again and most of all I want American citizens to be the priority.

Of course it occurred
But
I can’t see where it was ever a significant number

@retire05: Frankly, I am sick to death of you high-and-mighty “I’ve got my principles” idiots. You and your principles are going down like rats in a sinking ship. If Trump loses, and I’m betting he will win, it will be because of establishment GOP elitists and purist conservatives such as yourself. If he loses, you lose too. We will never be able to pick up the pieces of a shattered conservative base after eight years of Hillary. The courts will be packed, as well as all public functions, with even more radical leftists, all driven with an agenda to destroy the remnants of conservatism and a moral and Constitutional America by all legal and illegal means necessary. There is no perfect candidate who will meet all of your highly rigorous requirements. Trump is the closest-to-perfect choice for these times exactly because he is not a polished politician and not recognized as a true conservative. He will get the votes from many minorities and Democrats that a Cruz, Bush, or Rubio would not. Yeah, I don’t agree with him on many issues, but I do on several of the most important: Second amendment support, halting the flood of Muslim refugees, fighting ISIS and Islamic terror, building a wall on our southern border and deporting illegal aliens, support of the US military and police, and support of capitalism over socialism.

In ridiculing and bashing Trump and a near-majority of American voters who support him against Hillary, you are facilitating the death of your own high-regarded “principles”, and dragging the rest of your fellow conservatives down the drain with you.

Tor, you’re trying to rationalize with Trump lickers. Can’t happen my friend.

If I were one of today’s so-called conservatives, I too would be concerned. You guys let ole Mitch paint your sorry asses in a corner. You’re so screwed. You are correct that you’ll have to concede the WH. Ain’t much way out of that. Thing is, as goes the WH, so goes the SCOTUS, especially with pretty much a Dem lock on the upper chamber. Damn the bad luck.

As a Democrat, I’m all for Trump. With Trump, we have a real shot at the House as well as countless down ballet seats.

In the end, Trump lickers will ultimately be the best thing Dems and the working man has seen for years.

@Angel Artiste: you are betting on Trump to win? well good for you
Current odds are 4 1/2 to one Hope you got the odds you deserve. PaddyPower is always giving good odds on Trump trying to attract money on him

@Tor: Not only is your writing suspect, so is your logic. How could I possibly show you “facts” when you have already determined that my conclusion is false? However, let’s look at it this way: After next week’s Republican Convention, it will all be decided. If Trump wins the nomination, your choice will be to vote for Trump or support Hillary’s election by either active or inactive participation. No other choice is possible. If by some miracle the establishment GOP manages to steal the nomination from Trump despite an overwhelmingly popular vote, the Republican party implodes and the GOP candidate loses to Hillary. Do you think subverting the will of the majority of Republican voters will be a popular move? Either way it goes, your publishing of discontent and dissension toward our presumptive candidate is going down a path that leads to our mutual destruction. And that’s a fact.

@Ajay42302: I’m just glad you’re not a “Hillary licker”, and will vote for Trump. You aren’t as ignorant as you sound.

@John: Those odds are bound to change. Trump is closer to Hillary in the pre-convention polls than Reagan was to Carter. Reagan won in a landslide, and I expect the same of Trump.

I will support practically anyone to defeat Hillary. Hillary is a liar, corrupt, and now shown to be a criminal. Since the left wing cabal of the media, DNC and the Obama administration is more interested in a liberal getting elected than honesty, justice and the rule of law, it is of paramount importance that Hillary be defeated at the polls. Hillary elected President would be an insult to every American, alive now or an ancestor. A more disgusting insult to the Constitution cannot be imagined.

Is Trump the best choice for America today? Well, probably not, but of the choices we have, he is the BETTER choice. He is not the consummate politician, but he DOES have promise; the possibility of someone with the correct capabilities and experience to address many of the problems this nation faces, many newly created in the past 8 years.

It very well could be that Trump is not capable of correcting these problems; the race issue that Obama has personally exacerbated to a near flash point itself will require super-human skills to quell. But, what we know for CERTAIN is that Hillary will take what Obama has commenced and make it far worse.

Like Obama, Hillary has followed up the deaths of Castile and Sterling with more race baiting and instigation. She, like Obama, has been using the tragedy in Dallas for political benefit. If based only on Hillary’s reputation of handling national security, there is no possible argument that she is clearly disqualified from ANY public service, much less President of the United States.

You want that? You want at least 4 terrible years of Hillary to follow up the 8 disastrous years of Obama?

Provide a steel-clad plan to defeat Hillary with someone else. Otherwise, hold your noses and vote for Trump.

@retire05: Thank you for your kind words.

Your are entirely correct – part of the whole point of the piece is that those items pose a great danger in that Trump is destined to lose and take the rest of the party down with him.

Thus it would be far better to at least have someone who can win and NOT cause a down ballot apocalypse.

@Angel Artiste: Did you present any ‘Facts’ to bolster your assertion?

Perhaps you could argue based on what I wrote instead of launching ad hominem attacks.

What is your response to the questions I posed?

For those Trump supporters that are gleeful that Trump is up by 5 points or in a dead heat with Clinton, open your eyes! A Republican candidate should be up by 20 points – at least – given the opposition is Hillary. She’s a criminal, a leftist loon, liar and easy to take down with words. But, alas, there is Trump. The buffoon who cannot articulate anything beyond a few words: crooked, rigged, lyin’. You Trumpers should be ashamed and embarrassed. You’re not. Pathetic.

@Tor: I presented as many facts as you have. How are you so confident that Trump is “destined” to lose? The majority of Republicans voted for him, and he is running neck-and neck with Hillary, and gaining momentum. How is that a sure loser? Do you think Cruz or Bush or Rubio would fare any better? They would wither under Hillary’s poison rhetoric. Trump has taken the Dems and leftist media’s best shots and hasn’t suffered a scratch. Who else in the GOP could do that?

What I see is that you and many others with TDS have swallowed the media’s propaganda.comment image

@Tor: I see the the same problem whether Trump is the GOP nominee or not.
If the nomination is somehow finagled away from him will all those who voted for him in the primary vote in Nov for the man who usurped the nomination ? 13 million voted for Trump in the primaries if their man is deposed will they vote for another?
If they decide not to show up at all Clinton wins easily against anyone

@Angel Artiste: I’ll vote for neither Hillary or Trump.

On another note, I think Paul Ryan is auditioning for the position on CNN as we speak. I won’t vote for him either and don’t think he can win but could possibly save some House and state seats.

@KAH: I doubt anybody has ever been 20 points ahead on average polling data in a presidential election. And none of the other GOP candidates would do it either. Each had their own baggage, and would be mercilessly attacked by Dems and media. I like Cruz, but it’s doubtful he could withstand the attacks from the left. He certainly didn’t survive Trump’s attacks.

So your logic is that you won’t vote for him because he is not ahead enough in the polls to your liking? Pathetic.

Angel, Trump never debated. He would not nor could not survive a debate. It will be interesting to hear what you and other Trump supporters have to say after a debate with Hillary. Trump never talked beyond a minute (or if he did, it was Don telling others they were little, lyin or boring. Whatever. Trump is not conservative and he’s a dismal candidate. I don’t understand how anyone can be excited he’s the nominee. Trump is not only vulgar, he’s dumb.

@Angel Artiste:

Over and over again Donald Trump’s supporters proved to be like those ”Shy Tories,” of a few years ago in UK.
Then, oops! Where did all those votes come from?
As a retiree I get a lot of calls from pollsters.
I can attest to the fact that shaming of people who disagree with the pollster is pretty common.

@KAH:”Angel, Trump never debated. He would not nor could not survive a debate.”

And yet he won the nomination and crushed his 14 opponents. What does that say about him and the strength of his opponents? Where is your stronger candidate who could beat Hillary more effectively than Trump?

Let’s also dispel a few conspiracy theories. Trump is not a Dem “plant”. He does want to win the election. He will not “sell America down the river” or destroy conservatism. The people who promote these fantasies are either media hacks or ignorant conservatives who believe them. Sarah Palin, Rudy Guiliani, Dr. Ben Carson, and many other conservative politicians and pundits (who know Trump much better than the conspiracy theorists) are behind him. The main resistance comes from the traitorous elitist GOPe and writers for NRO and Weekly Standard, i.e., George Will and Bill Kristol (both who initially supported Obama after his election). Hardly a bastion of reliability I would stake my vote on.

@Angel Artiste: While Trump defeated those 14 contenders hands down, they were the sorriest of the sorriest contenders. Trump was simply the horse of a different color yet the sorriest of that sorry clown car lot.

@Ajay42302: They were the best the Republicans had to offer. Hillary is the best the Dems have. I’m sorry, but politicians are mostly slimy and/or ineffectual. What are you going to do, leave the country like Whoopie says she’ll do if Trump is elected?

@Angel Artiste:

Frankly, I am sick to death of you high-and-mighty “I’ve got my principles” idiots.

Well, it is clear that you have compromised yours. Or perhaps you never held any to begin with.

You and your principles are going down like rats in a sinking ship.

And Trump will bring nothing but disaster to the GOP. But perhaps that is what you want.

@Angel Artiste:

The main resistance comes from the traitorous elitist GOPe

I have been involved in Republican politics for almost 40 years. I am NOT an elitist but one of the foot soldiers who helped turn my state from blue to red and to be criticized by the likes of you is a joke. And for you Trumpeteers to label any of us who sees what a disaster Trump is as “elitist” is simply showing your ignorance. You’re not one bit different than the Obama worshippers were. You’re nothing more than a groupie.

#FreetheDelegates

@retire05: My principles are as sound as yours, sir. Trump may turn out to be a disaster or not, but we know that a Hillary presidency will be one for sure. As far as destroying the GOP, see my comment above about conspiracy theories. The GOP needs reform, and they need to grow a spine and fight for conservative principles. Which they are not doing now.

I’m by no means a Trump fan, but I support him as a realist, understanding that the alternative is much more unacceptable. You have a serious case of TDS, sir, and you sound shrill and irrational. Is Hillary more in line with your vaunted principles?

@retire05: What state would that be? Moreover, speaking about demography, given the current trends, the rate of legal and illegal immigration into this Republic will make moot any dreams of retaining Republican power at a state and/or National level. The idea that Texas could be Blue in 10 years is not some crank pipe dream given the unabated stream during President 44 terms.

The problem is who still standing can limit this trend so that only one uni -party will emerge,Democrats,as the future political party. Since you have a history of hard work to Change one state Red from blue , who gives you the best chance at demography, Trump or Clinton?

Just reading yesterday’s comments. Interesting that some comments refer to me and others as ‘high and mighty’ or that Trump crushed the other candidates. I am not high nor mighty and a lot of you assume too much in a short comment. I don’t like Trump: he’s not smart, loyal nor conservative. What’s so infuriating is that the Republicans had 2-3 good candidates that could crush Hilllary but with 17 competing it was easy for Trump to win the nomination. When it comes to voting in November, I will choose Trump but I’m not happy about it. For all those who feel compelled to tell other non-Trump supporters that they are leftists, you should be focusing your angst on Trump. Most supporters don’t expect Trump to do much except wear his red cap and drool out ‘rigged’, ‘crooked’ and ‘lyin’. He stands for what – the wall? Oh, yeah, there’s his website. good one. You Trump supporters adore while conservatives want a leader and don’t want to have him nor the government in our lives.

Retire05 – spot on!

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What is your speculation as to what is going on? The only thing I can say about predictions about Trump is that so far they have all been wrong.

@Angel Artiste: So, like the leftists, anybody who disagrees with them is a “Leftist” This is a common slur, an attempt to make dissenters shut up. It is most commonly used against the conservatives because you know that the truth is otherwise.
Donald Trump is no conservative and he did not win the nomination with a landslide of republican voters. They say that he won with 14 million votes altogether. Well, if statistics are correct, then those upwards of 12 million democrats voted him in. The usual pattern that prevents republicans from chosing a conservative, I might add. So, why would the democrats want to choose DT as our candidate? He’s been on full display for your observation, but out of the hardness of your own heart, you refuse to see that he is one of them, and even though they crossed over to vote for him in OUR primaries, they are not polling for him now. Rasmussen? He was off the last two elections by miles. You cannot cherry-pick polls that show your guy winning and ignore the ones that have been very accurate.
Trump is not running to win. He throws a bone or two occasionally for his supporters to stay on board, but if they were really serious and real conservatives, they’d have abandoned him long ago. He’s made himself out for a fool so many times as to be irredeemable. His supporters are being played for fools. It’s time to wake up and shake yourselves out of the drugs in the Koolaid, and face reality. He wants Hillary to be the winner and he is doing just what is needed. People have not listened any longer to what he’s been saying. After he has backed out of EVERY ONE of his initial campaign pledges the excuses just keep on flying for him. It is embarrassing as well as frustrating. But, there is one other thing that is coming out of this as well, and I think this was DT’s real purpose in running…to destroy the republican party. Trump’s values and ideology matches the democrats. He has admitted it on several occasions. For the conservative media and leaders (Christian ones, especially) to have thrown their lot in with him is very telling. We are showing ourselves to be sold out for a pack of lies from a big-mouth fool. I just wish someone would start from the beginning of his campaign and put every public statement thereafter for people to see. Of course, many of his supporters would insist that they were lies, but that is the problem. They are unwilling to face the truth and realize they’ve been sham-whammed. If he is the nominee, and he loses all 50 states to Hillary, the only comparison to Reagan will be that instead of winning them all, he’ll have lost them. He is no Reaganite. He’s not even close. Reagan, if alive would have NOTHING to do with him because he’d state publicly what DT really is, instead. Andrew Breitbart, before his untimely death, said that a Trump nomination would be a disaster for republicans, and that his presidency would be a bad thing for America.

@S. Hancock: I denounce you! You are a leftist probably live in the east coast and drive a Volvo
Provocateur!!

@Angel Artiste:

My principles are as sound as yours, sir.

Not according to what you have posted on this blog.

Trump may turn out to be a disaster or not, but we know that a Hillary presidency will be one for sure.

Oh, Trump will be a disaster. Of that there is not doubt. And to assume that he will be less of a disaster than Hillary is just wishful thinking since you have no benchmark by which to make that assumption. Hillary being a disaster will not destroy the Republican Party. The disaster that Trump will be will. Death, by any means, leaves you just as dead.

The GOP needs reform, and they need to grow a spine and fight for conservative principles. Which they are not doing now.

You speak of the GOP as if it was some foreign organization to you when you refer to it as “they”. Well, I AM THE GOP and I have the history to prove it. The GOP is not just a bunch of spineless Senators and Congressmen that were, by the way, elected by their constituencies, but it is the millions of us who are out here in the trenches doing the heavy lifting to get true conservatives, like Mike Lee and Louis Gohmert, elected.

I’m by no means a Trump fan, but I support him as a realist, understanding that the alternative is much more unacceptable.

And you know that Trump will be any different than Hillary how? By his past track record? A track record of supporting the Kelo decision or being pro-choice until it was inconvenient for him to run as a Republican, or his pro-Second Amendment stances through the years?

You have a serious case of TDS, sir, and you sound shrill and irrational.

Insult me all you will, but it doesn’t eliminate the fact that those of us who have been in this political game for decades know that Donald Trump will a) probably lose the general election b) will cost the Republican Party down ticket races and c) will not be able to keep even one of the lofty promises he has made that people like you swallow hook, line and sinker.

Is Hillary more in line with your vaunted principles?

Is that the best you’ve got? Tacitly accusing me of being a Hillary supporter? I would suggest she is more in line with your principles, the truth be known.

@mike191:

What state would that be? Moreover, speaking about demography, given the current trends, the rate of legal and illegal immigration into this Republic will make moot any dreams of retaining Republican power at a state and/or National level. The idea that Texas could be Blue in 10 years is not some crank pipe dream given the unabated stream during President 44 terms.

Texas. I am Texan.

And I can tell you that we have not been red all that long in the history of politics. But we are getting redder and not because of some keyboard warriors who come here and stump for Trump. We are getting redder because we run our state using conservative principals and everyone benefits from that.

As to your “unabated stream”, I can only assume you mean the illegal alien problem. Odd, we Texans screamed about that for decades, but now that it has affected the Eastern seaboard and Mid-America, it has become a “federal” issue and not just the problem of the border states. Well, it always was a federal issue but no one in the other states seemed to care until it affected them.

Since you have a history of hard work to Change one state Red from blue , who gives you the best chance at demography, Trump or Clinton?

Neither one. Unless Trump decides to rule by Executive Order fiat just the way that Obama has done, ignoring the limits placed on the Executive Office by the Constitution. Everything he claims he will do does not fall under the purview of the Office of President but rather the Congress. But his minions are just to blind to understand, or accept, that.

#FreetheDelegates

Sorry but Americans are not going to elect as POTUS anyone who is a conservative as you woukd like
Extremist views will ensure that the GOP loses in national elections
So keep your deeply held principles never compromise see how far that gets you
Oh by the way Louis Gohmert is considered a Buffon of the 1st degree by most Americans

@Angel Artiste:

@Ajay42302: They were the best the Republicans had to offer. Hillary is the best the Dems have. I’m sorry, but politicians are mostly slimy and/or ineffectual. What are you going to do, leave the country like Whoopie says she’ll do if Trump is elected?

I’ll agree that the 2016 line up was somewhat of a sick joke for both parties.

If I let the likes of Donald Trump run me from my very home, that would be a double defeat. I’m at the other end of the financial spectrum so he isn’t apt to bother me one way or the other. I survived the Bush/GOP crash and burn so I’m sure I’ll personally be just fine. And if not, I’m no stranger to throwing another log on the fire and another cup of water in the soup while we wait for another Dem to take office.

But being a Democrat means I’m not as much of the “I got mine” mindset so it will be disturbing watching the con man slaughter the village milk cow and steal the prime rib (but again, we overcame pretty much the same scenario from the GWB era thanks to, come to think about it, Democrats). He doesn’t seem to be much on things like due process or the Constitution (something that seems to be more dear to Democrats) but then I don’t drive around with broken tail lights nor do I sell CDs or cigarettes outside of stores nor do I keep Skittles in my pockets or wear a hoodie so I don’t see him as a threat to me personally.

But I do suspect we’ll see a much more divided country with him in office than we would with Hillary (although I just can’t hold my nose and vote for her either). Granted they both lie profusely but when The D says he “loves Hispanics, loves women, loves minorities, loves the uneducated, etc etc etc and we both know that everything he says is a lie, well, it’s not going to bring us together when all he caters to is the KKK and Neo-Nazis..

But again, ole Ajay will be just fine.

@retire05:
Red or blue Texas has been conservative
But it has been getting more liberal and will continue to do so
The total population of undocumented aliens has decreased under Obama I would assume that would include Texas since as you noted those people are no longer clustered at our southern border
Demographics will turn the state blue the older white people are no longer breeding

Neither Trump nor Hillary can run on honesty or moral high ground, can we boil down America and only come up with these 2 for Leader of the free world. Yes a better candidate to debate and run on reputation would have been Cruz, or Rubio, Cruz would have so crushed Hillary in the Debates.
What did America Vote for? Maury Povich episodes, so much of this crap on TV people actually think its like normal life. Basically its the horrible accident on the side of the road that everyone slows down for to gawk at.
The other Candidates were actually talking about issues…turn the channel, whats this lol this guy says the other candidates dad was in on the Kennedy assassination turn up the volume. OOooh he just called the black guy a pedophile, and the Black guy is endorsing him dont turn the channel whats next?
I just cant fathom who would ever take he marker and fill in the oval next to this guys name. But thats just me, ignore those Nasty polls ya Donalds backers are shy lol they never come out to attack anyone on social media that may ask a critical question of them like why does this guy change his mind all the time.

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