Today terrorists attacked Attacked airport in Istanbul, Turkey, at last count leaving 28 dead and at least 60 injured:
— At least 28 people have been killed and 60 others wounded in the attack on Istanbul Ataturk Airport in Turkey, Istanbul Gov. Vasip Sahin told Turkey’s state-run news agency TRT. It is unclear if the total includes the bombers. Another report, from semi-official news agency Anadolu, said six of the wounded are in critical condition. A total of 49 ambulances were sent to the site.
— Turkey’s Justice Minister Bekir Bozdag earlier said at least 10 people were killed and 20 others injured. The suicide bombers were also killed. Bozdag said one attacker “first opened fire with a Kalashnikov then detonated himself” at the airport entrance.
— In total three bombs exploded, the governor told TRT.
–One of them was located just outside a terminal on the pavement, while the other was at the security gate at the entrance to the airport, Bozdag told CNN.
— Authorities said no bombs exploded within airport buildings, according to the minister.
— A video posted to Twitter shows a view from a camera inside an airport terminal. A few dozen people are walking around when a bright flash and fireball erupt in the background.
— A Turkish official told CNN that police fired shots at suspects near the international terminal in an effort to neutralize them.
— Videos posted on social media show travelers sitting on the airport floor. A man shouts, “Get down! Get down!” Someone cries as a gunshot rings out.
As I write, the estimated death toll is now 50.
It remains to be seen how the Turkish government will respond but it’s pretty likely they won’t take the Obama route and blame “lone wolf” bad actors. They won’t likely blame their own people as did Obama. I’ll wager big money that they don’t say that the best response to the attack will be love and compassion as did our idiot Attorney General. It’s unlikely that Turkish President Erdogan will fight and thought of linking the attack to ISIS. But one thing from the Benghazi report positively leaps off the page- if we are attacked again while Obama is President, we are totally f**ked.
There was no rescue attempt for those under attack in Benghazi, but it wasn’t for lack of assets. The problem was that those assets were being utterly mismanaged. It’s hard to overestimate the stupidity:
“At the end of the day, no military assets were ever moving toward Benghazi,” she said. “But for the bravery of a few Americans and the unexpected response of Qaddafi’s underground militia … there would have been an even greater loss of life that night.”
The report, more broadly, described a disconnect between the “bureaucratic” response at upper levels and in Washington, and the urgent response on the ground that night.
The report said despite orders from President Obama and then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta to deploy, the first military force did not do so until more than 13 hours after the attack started.
The report said one anti-terrorism security team known as the FAST unit sat waiting for three hours in Rota, Spain, as Marines changed “in and out of their uniforms four times,” and even debated whether they should carry personal weapons, according to one witness. All together, the report said, “it would take nearly 18 hours” for that team to move.
In the end, U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans — foreign service officer Sean Smith and former Navy Seals Ty Woods and Glen Doherty — were killed in the attacks.
Political correctness trumped the safety and well being of US personnel:
The administration’s policy of no boots on the ground shaped the type of military assistance provided to State Department personnel in Libya. The Executive Secretariats for both the Defense Department and State Department exchanged communications outlining the diplomatic capacity in which the Defense Department SST security team members would serve, which included wearing civilian clothes so as not to offend the Libyans. [pg. 60]
The Obama regime spent two hours debating how to mount a rescue without offending Libya:
Brooks said, “I, and members of the committee are very concerned as to why the secretary and the State Department didn’t follow recommendations that have made — been made by previous ARBs or Accountability Review Boards. First and foremost, the secretary of state, whether it was Secretary Clinton at the time or Secretary Kerry now, is responsible for security of their people. Security should be a top priority. And in fact, in 2010, when Secretary Clinton ordered a review of processes, there was a strong recommendation made that changes should be made about how the State Department handled security. That was rejected by Under Secretary Kennedy, and they went with the status quo, or what they call regular order. So things should have changed before this incident ever happened. And once Ambassador Stevens…went to Libya, he went with no military assistance. He went and requested multiple times, he and other diplomatic security, to have more agents, to have more physical security, and quite frankly, it was rejected by the State Department.”
She added, “[I]t was really unbelievable to us, that in fact the Defense Department, had no assets, moving toward Benghazi at the time that the annex was attacked. So almost eight hours after the initial attack on the mission compound, and after our brave men had moved to the annex, there were still no military assets moving directly to Benghazi. We also learned that there was a White House secure video conference that took place, we did not know that previously. That Secretary Clinton participated in, and other White House officials, although Secretary Panetta did not, the president did not, and they had discussions for over two hours about how to go in without truly offending Libya, how to send people to Tripoli, never to Benghazi. And so there were some significant, I think, deficiencies and mistakes made, and decisions that were made about how to go rescue our people.”
Obama claimed to have made three directives:
I gave three very clear directives. Number one, make sure we are securing our personnel and that we are doing whatever we need to. Number two, we are going to investigate exactly what happened and make sure it doesn’t happen again. Number three, find out who did this so we can bring them to justice.
But there is no evidence of it whatsoever.
It makes you shudder to think what could happen in the event of another attack on the US. Obama would spend weeks dithering over the possibility of offending the attackers and their home countries.(Witness obama’s complete lack of reaction to Russia playing chicken with our military) He would probably blame the US and apologize to the attackers. Hillary Clinton would figure out how to profit from the attack, destroy some emails and assert “What difference at this point does it make?”
And Susan Rice would blame a video.
We’d be totally f**ked.
How many more of these attacks have to be endured before obama gets serious? Of course, that presumes he would ever get serious about ISIS.He’s not going to get seerious. I’ve said it before- this mess is being left for the next President. Obama cannot be gone soon enough.
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Except for liberals being foolish.
And while Obama the Fink bring in so called refugees disarms all law abiding americans releases crinimals and sells our nation out the ISIS He is a Traitor and his Peace Prize should be revoked
DrJohn:
Hillary said the State Department just did not have enough money to provide security for Ambassador Stevens in Lybia.
People spend their money of their favorite things……
What did Hillary’s State Dept., spend for?
7.9 billion dollars for Obama’s Global Health Initiative.
1 billion for global climate change.
2.2 billion to strengthen democratic institutions in Pakistan.
And of course… Mosque renovations……
In 2011 the State Department provided funds to restore the 15th century Gobarau Minaret in Katsina State in Nigeria’s predominantly Muslim north.
$4.5 million for Art in Embassies.
200 million dollars were wasted on Iraqi police training that never went anywhere.
$79,000 to spend on Obama’s books and $20,000 on a portrait of Obama.
$150,000 to spend on a book about the ambassador’s residence.
The US Embassy in Austria had $150,000+ for a Chevy Volt and its charging station.
State Department bought $415,000 worth of alcohol in fiscal 2012, which was 25 percent more than the $331,000 spent in 2011 and more than triple the $118,000 spent in 2008.
$5 million for 12,000 pieces of hand-blown crystal glassware.
State Department bought 2,500 Kindles from Amazon in a $16.5 million no-bid contract.
That works out to $6,600 per Kindle Touch — a lot more than the $189 retail price.
So, all that took precedence over SECURITY for Ambassadors in dangerous hell-holes.
This despite 1300 texts and emails from the Ambassador begging for better security:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/20/state-department-suddenly-discovers-1300-pages-amb-stevens-email/
Then, of course, there’s the GRAFT:
$6 billion to be used to pay contractors but just disappeared and documents that could help track it cannot be located. http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2014/04/6-bil-vanishes-from-state-dept-under-hillary-clinton/
@Nanny G: sad isn’t it? Four mens lives were not worth a chevy volt. The woman needs to go to jail without parole .
More than you think and we already are.
His approval rating hit 51% today despite all that has been going on recently- another successful terror attack on our soil, the deadliest since 9/11; the Benghazi report; a dismal jobs report; dismal GDP growth; taking the losing side with Breixt, and hints that Hillary will escape indictment when it is clear she broke the law. This problem won’t go away after he leaves when that many people approve of this crap. The issue runs much deeper than Obama. Hence, we are totally f**ked.
It’s the Obama administration that has been continuously conducting war against ISIL since September, 2014. That war is being waged against them on their own ground, which has diverted a great part of their energy, manpower, and resources away from any efforts to attack us on ours. If you don’t believe that they would have very much liked to do so, you’re totally clueless.
It’s the republican-majority in the House that has made a lot of angry quacking sounds, while refusing to discuss or allow a vote on Obama’s Request for Authorization to Use Military Force Against ISIL, and while declining to provide any constructive alternative approaches of their own.
If we’d had to rely on the republicans for any constructive response, we truly would have been screwed. They haven’t come up with a constructive response to anything since they took control of the House. They haven’t been able to come up with a constructive response to their own internal divisions. They can’t decide whether to support of oppose their own party’s presumptive nominee. This is hardly surprising. Consider Trump’s response to Istanbul.
@another vet #4 –
Much too true.
If you take today’s attack at the Istanbul airport, the terrorists are trying to inflict as many casualties as possible against soft targets. Unfortunately, it is a bit of “can you top this” mindset on their part, and they are doing it with impunity. To them, it is immaterial what our response will be regardless of who is president, or will be president. ISIS is operating at will in Europe and the UK. Their plan is to bring the bloodshed here.
This is a poor time to recommend the military as a career for young people. This administration would leave our troops in the field with no back up just like our Ambassador.
@Greg:
He has no intention of winning. He speaks of degrading them, not winning. Obama’s plan in 2014 was announced as a three year plan, putting the end beyond his tenure and that was no mistake. It gets him off the hook and leaves the bag of crap for his successor. His unwillingness to do what everyone knows has to be done is costing lives everywhere.
BTW, Trump is right
@another vet: Perhaps the reason Obama’s approval ratings continue to rise is because most people of rational mind don’t sift through rabid right wing conspiracy theorist inaccurate ramblings in hopes to find some glimmer to build their tin foil hat cases.
Rather, most of reasonable intellect understand that Benghazi was a political witch hunt, that we’ve seen 7 years of solid job growth of bebuiling from the abject failures of the Bush years (despite admitted obstruction and sabotage from the GOP), that Obama has taken out more terrorist big names than anyone in the world, that ACA has been more successful than not (no round up grandmas to plead their cases in front of a death squad, no mass job losses, no long lines at the Dr office, etc) and most sane and rational people agree with him on EU and even on gun background checks, MW increases, and on and on.
And I would say that most people who don’t live in an ideological hate bubble realize how fraudulent Donald and his lickers are.
Take your very own accusation of “another successful terror attack on our soil, the deadliest since 9/11”. You see, people who aren’t utterly stupid can smell the dishonesty in your rhetoric. You are blaming a sitting POTUS for the actions of a deranged American citizen and equating it with an attack from bin Ladin.
And now we’re presented with a raging bigoted egotistical con man that’s somehow to make everything great.
Could it possibly be that you guys are hanging yourself with your very own rope?
Hiliary has to be the most lying individual ever to enter politics. She was fired from her 1st job for falsifying evidence in the Nixon investigation, and she has been lying ever since. She is a morally corrupt individual, and to think she may be our next president.
God help us!
@Ajay42302:
Or perhaps the focus is no longer on his epic failures. Solid growth? That’s amusing. The only President in history not to have a year with at least 3% growth in GDP, 94 million out of the workforce and all of the jobs are lousy jobs replacing good jobs.
@Ajay42302:
I think not.
It’s not going to get better for the walking potato sack.
@DrJohn:
I’ll agree with you that Obama’s job growth is not on par with other admistrations but you ignore many varibles (which of course is a needed strategy in Obama bashing).
Never before has a president walked into an economy in freefall as did Obama. Never before did a President face such an obstructive opposition party hellbent on failure, even actually admitting economic sabatoge in order to deny Obama a second term. Never before did the GOP abandon their very own economic remedies of repairing a hemerging economy (refusing money for infratructure, fighting against unemployment benefit extensions, demanding money pulled from the public sector, refusing to nominate economic appointees- many of which eventually did get voted in unanimously, and the list goes on and on.
And yes, many are indeed “lousy” jobs but again, at the insistence and due to the obstruction of the GOP. Low wages is a policy of the GOP, not Dems. Hell, the R led House even voted to slice overtime pay. Obama raised the MW of Fed workers much against a defying GOP. So what precisely, other than obstruct, has the Rs done to restore “unlousy” jobs? Not a damn thing.
Well if you are all correct and Kvama isn’t going to solve the ISIS problem
that you seem to think is so imminent, who will ?
Don’t just sit. back and say we f*cked
Head on over !! Don’t rely on Obama if you think he is so worthless if you aren’t part of the solution you are part of the problem
Where are our self proclaimed patriots in your perceived national hour of distress?
Why aren’t we seeing any anti-ISIS volunteers?
Myself, I think we ought to hit him with our strengths our western values
Bomb them with our free porn, and Budweiser
If we had done that in Gitmo I am sure the results there would have been different
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“Benghazi shows that if we are ever attacked while obama is President, we are absolutely f**cked”
Really … another doom and gloom complaint made those who hate USA and President Obama. It is hard to stomach RepubliCan’T outrage regarding Benghazi when the RepubliCan’T congress voted to cut funds for embassy security and then they joyfully use the tragedy as a fundraising scheme.
Look the final RepubliCan’T report is out AND there is no there, there. The report is clear; no smoking gun. The events were a tragedy. But any and all hopes of using the incident for cheap expedient political gain is finished.
– Security at the consulate was inadequate — which is unsurprising given that Congress had cut funding for embassy security.
– President Obama and Secretary Clinton didn’t do anything wrong — though in retrospect Clinton could have done certain things better in the days leading to the attack, but then who doesn’t have 20/20 hindsight, right?
– The report reluctantly admits Clinton herself “never personally denied any requests for additional security in Benghazi” and she was “active and engaged” on the night of the attacks, she was actively working with the president, the CIA director, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and others in the hours following the attack.
– All the conspiracy theories were bullshit. No stand-down order was ever given.
So get over it. The Murdoch Media/Fox Networks/RepubliCan’Ts have played you for the fools you are.
“How many more of these attacks have to be endured before obama gets serious?”
Ask Bin Laden.
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@Ema Nymton:
You gotta get out more, Ema.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/barbara-boxers-claim-that-gop-budgets-hampered-benghazi-security/2013/05/15/d1e295cc-bdb0-11e2-97d4-a479289a31f9_blog.html
@Ajay42302:
What could they do? obama runs roughshod over the Constitution, rewrites laws on his own and vetoes everything coming from the right while miring businesses in a quagmire of regulation.
Hence, the worst recovery in history.
@Ajay42302:
Tell it to the families of the fallen. I know, they don’t deserve answers as they are mere peons. What matters is covering for Obama’s and Hillary’s lies and incompetence. But hey, the left is all for “the little guy”.
That’s why we have millions more collecting food stamps now than before he took office and after 7 years of “recovery”. There was a time when solid job growth equated to people being able to support themselves without government assistance. And let’s not forget about all those millions of people who gave up looking for work. It was all due to solid job growth, right?
Funny, I thought our military took them out. The onus is now on you to present evidence that Obama was down range “taking them out” Show us how ISIS controls less territory now than they did in 2009. Show us evidence that the number of deaths related to terrorism has decreased on his watch. Show us evidence that AQ is not stronger than at any time since 9/11.
Based on what evidence?
What exactly was it then? Name one terrorist attack that occurred on soil since 9/11 that was more deadly. Burden of proof is on you.
FDR, 1933? Ronald Reagan, 1981? I could go back to 19th century America as well. You really need to crack the history books before making statements like that.
@another vet: I believe Obama’s popularity continues to rise is that there are more people getting free stuff and the lies and deceit does not matter to them. There are also more ignorant people in the population since the 1-12 schools are dumbing down the young people.
@David: At some point you’d think some people in this country would figure that out. But hey, we were told that once Bush was out of there, we would be loved by everyone and all the terrorists would go home and live in peace because they REALLY did like us until he became POTUS. That is why we have seen such an astronomical decrease in the number of terrorist attacks in recent years. It has nothing to do with them but everything to do with the evil American, especially the swine who call them out for what they are. The fact that they would kill Obama just as fast as they would kill Bush or any other American means nothing.
@Randy: I agree 100%. No one ever disapproved of Santa Claus and the emphasis in schools these days seems to be on group hugs instead of actual skills like being able to think critically or being able to do basic math.
@DrJohn: I can’t help but wonder DJ, as you seem to possess adequate intelligence, if even you seriously believe your own babble.
Much of Obama’s EOs (which are exceptionally low compared to his predecessors) were a result of little to no action from a do nothing GOP Congress who very much like yourself, hate Obama because of, well, Obama.
I remind you again that many GOP legislators have actually admitted their unwillingness to work with the President because it was simply politically advantageous for them.
@another vet:
To be clear on your “tell it to the families” argument, even they have come out in support of Hillary.
The rest of your regurgitated talked points have already been debunked or are irrelevant or just flat wrong. Or I’ll be generous, poorly spun.
Example- yes, we all know that the President of the United States doesn’t don a military unifom and engage in battle on the field so I suppose you’re correct that the military took out ISIS leaders, bin Laden, etc etc rather than Obama himself.
But this shows that you, much like your cohorts, will go to no end to distract, spin, and derail any realities that conflicts with your Obama bashing party. You rely on intellectual laziness and intellectual dishonesty to sell your snake oil.
@Ajay42302: You sure are drinking the Kool aid! The families were on TV today and are still up set about the lies they were told and the lack of security provided.
@Ajay42302:
Did you hear or read Patricia Smith’s statements from yesterday? Do know who her son was?
Yet you provide no specifics. You certainly haven’t debunked squat. I guess we’ll just have to get with the program and take your word for it.
Yep. I’m no where near as intellectually honest as you are. As such, I will revise my statements: FDR and Reagan both walked into economies far rosier than Obama did. And Andrew Johnson had a lot easier time dealing with an economy where a sizable number of states had a currency that was no longer of value. ISIS controlled more territory prior to 2009 than it does now. AQ was not assessed by Obama’s own intel agencies to be stronger now than at any time since 9/11. The number of terror attacks have been greatly reduced since 2009. The number of people collecting food stamps is far lower now than it was prior to Obama taking office. The number of people not in the workforce has greatly declined.
Fixed. Now I am as intellectually honest as you are.
@another vet: Don’t you get tired of dealing with these bozos? I wonder how many of these intellectual giants would have returned from Iraq with us in 2004 if they had mobilized with us in 2003? We could have armed them with AR 15 assault weapons with a 7 round magazine. They could have derived their intelligence from Code Pink. The Senator from NY could have provided them with military back up. Harry Reid could have made sure they had the proper logistics. I wonder what their chances would have been?
I will stick with your intel and would return unscathed again.
@Randy: The late Chris Steven’s sister Anne stated yesterday that while there’s plenty to blame, Hillay was not to blame.
But this is still the right exploiting the tragic event solely for political gain. What about the 14 simular attacts under Bush and the 60 some people killed then? Nothing! Not a goddamn word! What about their families? Obviously no one here gives a flying rats add because that doesn’t compliment your hate fest or your Hillary bashing.
And one more time, even Republican lawmakers have openly admitted it was to hurt her chances of winning the WH. They robbed the tax payers of multi millions in investigations after denying funding that would have protected Stevens and others.
@another vet: It just isn’t realistic to compare what Obama walked into to any other time in history. To do so is just being either naive of economics or dishonest. And it’s likewise unrealistic to compare the hostile opposition party and their willingness to improve the economy to any other in history. In short, Bush and his GOP merrymen crashed the economy to the ground and then the GOP did everything in their power to keep it crashed- and even admitted to it.
And ISIS is another product brought to us by the Bush era.
You want to downplay the severity of these profound mistakes with historic consequences while chastising Obama for not correcting them expeditiously while up against and unwilling GOP.
Yes, you are indeed being dishonest.
@Randy: I definitely wouldn’t have wanted to deploy with any of them. Know-it-alls have a tendency to get you and themselves wounded or killed. In addition, given how they defend someone who failed to protect her subordinates, they definitely are not the type of people you’d want watching your back. Fortunately, most people like that don’t join the military.
As for Benghazi, I blame the deaths of the Americans on the terrorists who attacked the compound and did the killings. I blame Hillary for failing to provide the security that was requested. I blame Obama and Hillary for lying to the American people about the attack being about a video. I blame the people who believed their lie for defending them to this day. It kind of goes back to my comment in number 4 about how the problems plaguing this country run much deeper than Obama.
@Ajay42302: @<a
Which is exactly what you did:
Never before means a reference to the past, does it not? So are you naive or dishonest?
How exactly did they crash it into the ground? Specifics backed by facts.
@another vet @Randy –
The Benghazi report is a case study of a dereliction of duty at the highest levels. An order was given “to do everything possible”, yet there was no follow-up or basic question asking “how are we doing about everything possible”. Panetta who was SecDef at the time said we didn’t have time to assemble the necessary resources to provide even the basics or the intel was sketchy. He said that in his book and in his testimony to Congress. In SOF, we train day-in, day-out for precisely these kind of situations, and we’ve done missions with limited to no intel. It is our job. And, GEN Carter Ham, commander of AfriCom at the time, he had no idea what was going on – which is hard to believe. Sure Ham was in DC, but the purpose of his staff was to keep him situationally-aware about his AO. The other question is why we were so out of position on a day of importance to us and them?
Anyone who says this is much about nothing, they will rue day when it happens again.
@another vet:
Aside from that being a worn out argument and disregarding the reality that Bush was the guy that handed us the mess, kinda bouncing all over the place ain’t ya? I mean, you’ve gone from chastising Obama for a slow economic recovery to his inability to rapidly contain terrorism to the Bush economic meltdown being no more than a cycling hickup to Obama not deserving credit because he himself wasn’t on the battlefield to something about food stamp recipients and now all of a sudden, it’s important to know the specifics on what led up to the atrocious economic disaster that was dumped in Obama’s lap.
It’s kinda like arguing the fault of the Titanic sinking and when your talking points are challenged, all of a sudden you need to know the names and ages of the survivors. But I do understand the need to distract in order to validate your hate fest.
And you do this all while refusing to acknowledge the slightest inkling of fault that might just be of anyone other than Hillary or Obama.
Yet, I’m the dishonest one?
@Randy:
Typical slanderous bullshit. The more useless and screwed up the right gets, the more rabid their hatred seems to become for a President who has actually been pursuing a far-reaching military campaign against ISIL and related Islamic extremist groups for more than two years now—a campaign that the GOP has not only refused to support, but has even refused to acknowledge.
As I recall, it was your lot who thoroughly trashed President Obama for refusing to abandon a soldier on the field, even when there were serious unresolved questions concerning the circumstances that had led to his capture. He was brought home, and will be held accountable for his actions. This Commander in Chief has abandoned no one on the field, ever, even when some people argued that doing so would have been justified.
@Ajay42302:
Yes, Ajay, please tell us how Bush crashed the economy. It’s time to play “expose the liberal ignorati.” Tell us Bush was responsible for allowing Wall St to screw America. Please tell us how Bush failed to regulate derivatives and push Fannie to 51% subprimes and make predatory lending legal.
Please show us how Bush did that- else we think you an ignorant moron.
@Greg:
He’s killed four goddam Americans without due process. Other than that, no problemo!
BTW, obama’s ROE’s have let US troops die in the field.
@Greg:
Our asshole President, who has killed 200 children in drone attacks, allows US troops to die
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/5/increase-in-battlefield-deaths-linked-to-new-rules/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/26/rules-of-engagement-bind-us-troops-actions-in-afgh/
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/wh-navy-seal-was-killed-combat-not-combat-mission
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@DrJohn:
“He’s killed four goddam Americans without due process.”
Is it possible _YOU_ could give names, date(s), and time that you say “He’s killed four g@@@@m Americans? Else, others may think _YOU_ are a liar!
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@DrJohn, #8:
So far as the presidency is concerned, Trump is an empty suit. He has won support by playing emotions and by spouting slogans and one-liners. His rhetoric is on the level of a 10-year-old. When I listen to statements like this one, I can hardly believe what I’m hearing:
Seriously, what the hell is this guy babbling about? Is he telling us something we don’t already know? Is there some sort of policy or approach being articulated here? Or anywhere else? Because a President and Commander in Chief actually has to do very specific things in response to complex circumstances and threats in a very real world. You don’t put on a white hat, shoot down the Bad Guys when they pop up, blow smoke off your barrel and re-holster your trusty six-gun, keeping an eagle-eye open for the next villain until you get called home for dinner. Reality is operating on a far more complicated level.
@DrJohn, #33:
They had demonstrated themselves to be enemies of their own nation, actively supporting a foreign extremist organization that’s openly dedicated to conducting terrorist attacks and military operations against our civilian population, our military, and those of our allies. They were actively supporting a terrorist organization that murders innocent people wholesale. You’re damn right he had them killed. It was a deadly serious act of war, in response to deadly serious acts of war.
It would have been nice to properly send the police out to arrest them and haul them in for a trial, but sometimes that isn’t feasible, or even possible. Perhaps this should be considered a real-world example of “getting tough” when it’s needed. Trump flaps his lips. Obama takes specific actions having actual results.
Anwar al-Awlaki, once trusted, turned out to be a serious menace, responsible for the recruitment and radicalization of people who have committed terrorist acts inside his own homeland. They should have killed him twice. It’s currently rumored that a kill-list of some 8,000 U.S. citizens here and abroad is being circulated on extremists websites. If somebody specific is found to be behind that, and they can’t be dealt with in any other way, I’d condone killing them, too.
@David:
And how would you have felt knowing that you could have done something but weren’t allowed to go help out your fellow Americans? There are those with ZERO knowledge or experience making comments on this. We once had a QRF slapped together from scratch from multiple units and on the roll in the matter of an hour or two going into a situation with little to no intel. You don’t let your brothers-in-arms hang out to dry. Some just don’t get it and never will therefore it is useless trying to explain it to them.
It is about nothing when it causes embarrassment to the politicians you support. There are reasons for doing AAR’s when there is a major operational screw up like this, namely to see what went wrong and to prevent it from happening again. But there are those who know nothing about the process.
I know I am preaching to the choir on this.
@Greg:
No, it hasn’t. It has been screwing around. But, it is important to point out, once again, that we would not be fighting ISIS if it weren’t for Obama’s stupidity in handing them Iraq in the first place, not to mention making them a gift of Libya as well.
I guess it would be helpful to point out that when 9/11 happened, Bush decimated al Qaeda AND the Taliban in Afghanistan and defeated al Qaeda and the insurgency in Iraq. All the while, the Democrats tried repeatedly to defund the effort. It takes some nerve to accuse “obstruction” when the Democrats did everything they could to induce defeat (Hillary and Obama even admitted they did so for political reasons). Ultimately, Obama got elected President so he could completely destroy our foreign policy.
Actually, slander is something someone says that they know is false. In point of fact, Obama demonstrated this is exactly what he did. Furthermore, we know Obama has the ability to retrieve our soldiers out of harm’s way, because he went to the trouble to trade six hardened terrorists for a worthless deserter. But, live, fighting Americans, including an ambassador, are not worth his time. Or Hillary’s, for that matter.
@Ajay42302:
There was no “economic sabotage” other than Obama’s own policies. A trillion dollar “stimulus” that failed totally, Obamacare that kicked people off their insurance, drove up costs and turned full-time jobs into part-time, low paying jobs.
What jobs were actually created, most were part time jobs, a product of Obamacare… not Republicans. Tell us, why did Reid obstruct a vote on Obama’s stimulus, junior, his “pass this NOW” jobs bill? Hmmmm?
In case you weren’t aware, there is no article in the Constitution which states that if Congress doesn’t do what an ignorant President wants it to do, the ignorant President gets to write his own laws. Perhaps Mr. Obama could have been a bit more bipartisan from the very beginning instead of his “I won, you lost” approach. But, that would have mattered little… his agenda was basically anti-American and had no chance of getting through an American Congress.
@Ema Nymton:
Well, you are partially correct… they didn’t do ANYTHING. However, they COULD have strengthened security or pulled out of Benghazi altogether… like other countries did, due to the terror threat. They COULD have heeded warnings and shown just a little bit of attention to the date… September, 11. They COULD have followed up and made sure assets were actually on the way to try and save lives. Then, they COULD have not lied about the entire ordeal.
I’m not sure what you regard as wrong, but I think incompetence, ineptitude and dishonesty is kind of wrong.
@Ema Nymton:
Here ya go, sweetie
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/05/23/us/us-acknowledges-killing-4-americans-in-drone-strikes.html?referer=http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2014/mar/19/kesha-rogers/four-us-n-3-were/
@Ema Nymton: Yuck. Where did you crawl out from, and why do you feel you add anything else to the convo beyond lib hate?
Obama’s your football team. Got it. Just be glad you got 8 years and enjoy the “change” for the rest of your life. The adults are talking.
@Bill, #40:
Tell that to the U.S. military and coalition forces who have reclaimed a quarter of all formerly ISIL-controlled territory—and that’s 40 percent of all populated territory. U.S. airstrikes alone have killed more than 25,000 of their fighters over the past 2 years. The Obama administration has been attacking and neutralizing their leaders and critical organizational personnel at every opportunity, whenever they’re found. We’ve bombed their cash depositories, destroyed their transportation and supply infrastructure, and bombed their oil fields.
By what stretch of the severely information-deficient right-wing imagination does this level of focused, persistent, large-scale military activity constitute “screwing around?”
All that has been done and is being done in the real world, you want to totally ignore. And you want to fill the vacancy Obama will leave behind with Bozo the Clown, in whose estimation “something very baaad is happening.” The full details of his alternative approach seem to boil down to “getting tough.” We’ll waterboard somebody, folks. We’ll do worse than that. That should do the trick.
@Greg:
He knows that until ISIS is terminated, lives will continue to be lost. We can’t keep playing make believe war as the Jerk in Chief is doing now.
@Greg:
And we’re still losing. Further, Hillary has opened fertile ground in Libya for ISIS to grow.
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@Nathan Blue:
” The adults are talking. ”
Really? Where? Definitely not here…
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Dr John: #44
“He knows that until ISIS is terminated, lives will continue to be lost”
How does one terminate an idea?
Dr John: #45
Being the ultimate gloom and doom defeatist said, “And we’re still losing”
This will burst your bubble; USA is not losing. Militarily, USA has the initiative, the skills, and tools to degrade and destroy the enemy. And it is working.
Yes, the other side may score Pubic Relations (PR) points by getting their names in the media for acts of violence. But, this does not equate to a win. The attacks on 11 September 2001 made great PR headlines: but at _NO_ time was USA, the government of USA, the leaders of USA, the institutions of USA at risk.
Control yourself, stop snuffling, and realize USA under President Obama remains strong and capable.
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Drumpf: Making Amerika Grate Again.
50 State Sweep.
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Ema Nymton
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@Greg:
Well said!
Drumpf: Making Amerika Grate Again.
50 State Sweep.
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… Thanks Obama …
Ema Nymton
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@Ema Nymton:
This is what you left wingers amusing. ISIS is a real, tangible enemy. Obama says it’s an idea and you swallow. Well, that idea is killing people here and abroad.
How does one degrade and destroy an idea? LOL
BTW, obama does not want to destroy ISIS. He wants to defeat it. Again, how do you defeat an idea? With love and compassion?
obama said it’s going to take into 2017 to “defeat” ISIS. That’s after he’s outta here. He has no intention of doing what it takes to defeat ISIS. We have the might. What we don’t have in our idiot leaders is the will.
@Ema Nymton:
You know what’s really sad? Listening to that moron John Kerry say that all the deaths in the attacks means we’re winning.
@Nathan Blue: Truth be told, this happens every year around this time. College lets out and we get a huge influx of new left wing trolls spreading the gospel of their handlers, most likely as part of a summer internship. Along with “ajay”, there are now two more to add to the “don’t read/don’t feed the trolls” list just like their predecessors and Greg.