To be posted the evening of November 8 2016 after Trump Loses… (Guest Post)

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As an eyewitness to history, I can see how things are currently trending and how the current path should be clear to all.. but isn’t…But no matter, I will just leave this here for you to carefully consider since I see no point in waiting for the inevitable to play out.

Donald J. Trump conceded the race to Hillary Clinton tonight

With almost an air of relief Donald thanked his supporters and begrudgingly congratulated Ms Clinton on her win. But in a final twist of fate, the erstwhile target of his wrath and persecution turned the tables on him in her victory speech. Donald had threatened to prosecute Clinton, now it was Hillary making the threats.. and now she has the power of the Federal government to carry them out.

In recent weeks indications of the resulting landslide result was shaping up in the polls, so despite rumblings and rumors of lawsuits over tonight’s return, it became obvious that the victory was so slanted as to make these actions seem superfluous at best.

While Trump’s style of bluster won him many acolytes in the primaries, these same mannerisms only served to drive most people away in the general contest. His once successful tactics of lawsuit threats and shutting down opponents with shouts of Liar had the opposite effect outside his cloistered rallies..

And while Hillary still has to clean up the lose ends of her legal troubles, it’s a fair bet that future supreme court justice Obama will serve to be the deciding factor in any legal case brought before the court.

Many are looking back wondered why they did not see the danger earlier, and still many more nodded their heads at the phrase ‘we told you so.’

While a formal postmortem on the failed Trump candidacy is still to be conducted, many have already began piecing together the early signs of his ultimate defeat tonight.

After the Convention.

The enthusiasm in the first few events after the Trump Convention were palpable as excitement ran high. His expected after convention bounce put him in the lead over Hillary Clinton and the recurring theme of Trumpmentum seemed to be manifest and expectations mounted that he would run away with the race.

But then the stories of his past began flooding the airwaves. The accusations of fraud many ignored in the spring bubbled to the surface, and Trump’s only passing flirtation with the truth started to plague him on the trail.

For many it was a very new experience enduring the phenomena for Trump of ever falling poll numbers. Still Many more were dumbfounded that Trump’s usual approach of bombastic bullying only made the numbers drop even faster.

The Debate debacle

Towards the end the series of presidential candidate debates sealed the fate of Trumpmentum. Tactics that has served him well in the spring began backfiring in a spectacular fashion.

Instead of seeing a candidate ‘standing up for himself’, the general electorate saw a bully trying to shout down his opponent. While in the past his vague policy proposals protected him, this time around they became a liability. It became painfully obvious to all but his most ardent supporters that he would lose and lose big.

Worse yet, he had nothing in his bag of tricks to stop the slide – they only served to accelerate it further. Trump’s attempts at intimation only served boost Hillary’s sympathy vote. His accusations that she is a liar redounded badly as she pointed out all of his lies and flip flops.

In a final twist of the rhetorical knife that brought down the house, Hillary ended her victory speech with ‘Donald J, Trump.. You’re Fired!’

One final note… Please dispense with wasting your time responding with any manner of strident invective that seems to becoming increasingly endemic to those who support the subject matter of this predictive exposition.

Suffice it to say that If you can reply with forthright and intellectual arguments they will be well received and responded to, but not if your mannerism are that of the 3rd grade schoolyard.

 

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@Ajay42302:

And that is my argument. Trump is an absolute con man out for no one than himself, a gun hating pro abortion snake oil con man and way too dangerous.

Why are you making this stuff up? What is your evidence he is a ‘con man’? He has clearly said he is for the 2nd amendment. He is for allowing abortions, most people are. If your wife got pregnant and the pregnancy would kill her, wouldn’t you support her getting an abortion? Once you say yes to that, it’s just a matter of guidelines. It’s no longer ‘pro’ or ‘con’ abortion, it’s just the limits. Have you ever seen him selling snake oil? Have you bought any from him? That is something you say when you don’t have anything real to say. Just make it up and label it as ‘snake oil’.
Next:

@Nanny G: And that has nothing to do with the discussion at hand – Try again please.

@Ditto: The presidency isn’t about intimidating others and acting childish, it’s about leadership and getting the support of the majority of the people, not a small segment of the population for a primary contest.

Has it occurred to you that the media and the left WANTED Trump to be the nominee?

‘Proof there is a God’? Jim Messina senses divine intervention in GOP race http://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2016/05/04/proof-there-is-a-god-jim-messina-senses-divine-intervention-in-gop-race/ via @twitchycom

Hoyer: Trump nomination would bring Dems ‘substantial’ gains

Hoyer: Trump nomination would bring Dems ‘substantial’ gains

Report: 46,000 Pa. Democrats Become Republicans Due To Trump
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/03/10/report-46000-pa-democrats-become-republicans-due-to-trump/

Trump doing better in ‘open’ primaries; Cruz sees success in GOP-only contests
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/07/trump-doing-better-in-open-primaries-cruz-sees-success-in-gop-only-contests.html?

AMAZING! 60,000 Democrats Voted in Virginia Republican Primary http://disq.us/9albit

20,000 Massachusetts Democrats switch parties before Super Tuesday http://washex.am/1oMiSTH via @DCExaminer>

Now, if you could be so kind, please answer my question with regard to your previous contention:

Actually, as of now, I kinda think Trump might win it going away.

Based on what assessment of the facts?

@another vet:

: This election should be a “change election” not a “maintain the status-quo election”. As such, this election should have been the Republicans to lose just like ’08 was the dems to lose. With Trump, it is now going to be a bigger fight than it needed to be. Paradoxically, with Trump as the nominee this should have become the dems’ election to lose.

Agreed, this should have been a relatively easy win, but with arguably the worst candidate possible being fielded by the GOP it could be a very tragic loss of what could very well be the nation’s LAST election.

With Hillary as the nominee, it is going to be a much bigger fight than it needed to be.

Yes, why the country had to pick two of the worst possible is beyond my comprehension.

In the end, I think it’s way too early to call the election for either candidate especially considering how negatively they are viewed by the American public. One is a big question mark and the other belongs in jail.

The intent of that piece was to use the lessons of history and see how events will play out, and from the perspective of what is taking place now it does not look good.

@another vet:

The 2008 ANES data showed McCain viewed favorably by 23% of Democrats and unfavorably by 58%. Recent polls by CNN, Fox News, CBS News/New York Times, and Public Policy Polling showed Trump viewing favorably 5% to 12% of Democratic voters and unfavorably by 82% to 89%.

And yeah, polls-smolls but according to a recent NBC News/Wall Street Journal national poll, Obama showed favorably by Democrats at 88% of Clinton supporter and 82% of Sanders supporters. And his popularity seems to be going up. He will be a much bigger player in the campaigns rather than Bush who was no one wanted to be seen with. So there could be considerable coming together of the party. Sanders has shown a commitment to defeat Trump so it’s expected he’ll rally behind Clinton, pulling his supporter that way. And love her or hate her-or hate her even more, Elizabeth Warren is extremely popular and is a powerful voice among Democrats.

What and who does Trump have? And roaming state to state insulting non-male/white governors isn’t cutting it either.

The bigger question will be how many seats from his own party on both state and fed level he takes down with him.

@Ajay42302:

I don’t believe your laughable pinball-style rhetoric could be any more irrational.

Anyone who knows the history of my posts here knows my antipathy towards Trump, as I have stated numerous times I do not know that he is trustworthy. I am sickened that the election has boiled down to a choice between Clinton and Trump. Having lived through the unabashed corruption of the first Clinton administration, I cannot act in a manner that would contribute to another evil, corrupt and contemptibly dishonorable Clinton administration. Refusing to vote for Trump – who has collected the required number of GOP delegates- or writing in a 3rd party candidate, will have the same effect as voting for Clinton.

You blather on senselessly about “partisanship”, as if opposition to the democrat platform is a bad thing. What does the democrat party stand for?

1. Nationalized government control of health care.

2. Unlimited government welfare spending.

3. Higher income taxes, in a system designed by Karl Marx for the specifically stated purpose of collapsing a capitalist economy.

4. Pointless, scientifically bogus AGW based regulatory destruction of the energy industry in favor of failed, inadequate “green” energy- all based on an unproven theory that human activity has increased armospheric CO2 concentrations, and thus caused alleged global warming.

5. The slaughter of the preborn for the convenience of those who have escaped rhe womb, and the use of taxpayer dollars to pay for abortion under obamacare.

6. Gun control – to include Hillary’s public comments in support of an Australian-style gun confiscation in the US.

7. Government enabling of the mental illness of gender identity confusion – and the coersion by the federal government to force states into compliance.

8. The insanity of bringing muslim “refugees” into the US.

9. The continuation of the “death tax”, as well as a lowering of the amount that is exempted, which is a second tax on money that has already been taxed once.

10. Allowing felons and non-citizens the ability to vote.

11. The arbitrarily defined $15/hr minimum wage.

12. Decreased border security.

This is what the democrat party wants to impose on the country. Of course my opposition to such insane leftist ideology is partisan, just as those who support the leftist platforms are themselves partisan.

What is so telling in your vituperative attacks against those of us who – while bemoaning the unpalatable nature of the situation – have decided to support Trump over Hillary is your viscious, disdainful, generalized condemnation of Trump versus your complete glossing over Hillary’s vile, corrupt and criminal behavior.

Trump is certainly no Reagan. Trump is boorish, flippant, and has questionable dedication to the principles most conservatives view as important. He donated money to the Clintons. He is even on video from 15-20 years ago saying, “I identify more as a democrat than a republican”, or words to that effect. Hell, he is even quoted as saying he thought that worthless PC schmuch De Blasio would be a good mayor of NYC. Those of us who were donating money to conservative candidates during the primary are well aware of Trump’s shortcomings.

Bottom line is that Clinton is an as yet unindicted criminal with absolutely no accomplishments other than avoiding conviction for accepting bribes (cattle future fiasco), real estate fraud (whitewater), reverse carpet-bagging a NY senate seat to prop her resume for her losing presidential run, an ingloriously incompetent term as SecState where she ran an illegal private server to hide her corrupt bribe-taking via the Clinton Foundation and lied egregiously to the US public in claiming an unseen video caused a ‘spontaneous attack’ on the US compound in Benghazi despite her emails to her daughter and the Egyption ambassador from the evening of the attack where she admitted it was a terrorist attack. She is a despicable, utterly contemptible hag, and is unworthy to be elected to any public office regardless of whichever party she belongs.

And though it is the DEMOCRAT party that continues to support this truly evil person – to include the hysterically funny Nevada primary convention shenanigans where the party apparatachiks so blatently stole delegates from Sanders – you bloviate your empty condemnation against MY partisanship? For holding my nose to vote for Trump against a partisan group that is so intrinsically dishonest, disreputable, and loathesome?

Oh, since you can’t acknowledge my straightforward answer to your ridiculous hypothetical, have it turned back on you, but with a much closer position to potential reality. Simple yes or no, Ajay.

Would you vote for Louis Fahrkerran (sp?) over Donald Trump?

Would you vote for Sanders over Trump?

Would you vote for David Duke over Trump?

Would you vote for the crazy leader of the nutjob Westboro Baptist Church over Trump?

Would you vote for the unconvicted Weather Underground leftist terrorist Bill Ayers over Trump?

@Pete: There is no Democrat Party and you are a babbling bigot. Benghazi is a proven and admitted partisan scam and you’re are a cherry picking lying coward. You like it up Trumps ass? Fine with me. Please stay there as I have no interest in your stench of incoherent hatred.

Ajay42302: I will nominate you for both a Pulitzer and a Nobel for the clarity, wisdom, patience, and perspicacity of your last post. You belong in a class with Shakespeare, Mark Twain, Lawrence Darrell, and Carl Sandburg. Come to think of it, perhaps you should read some of their works. It will help you overcome your deficits in English, but not your other deficits.

Disturber

@Ajay42302:

LOL….and you are nothing but an abominable SJW troll incapable of refuting anything critical of the criminal hag Hillary and the unseemly, despicable democrat political platform, so you resort to channeling a kindergardener chanting, “I know you are, but what am I?”

You should refund the money Soros paid you for such a poor caricaturization of Pee Wee Herman attempting political debate.

@Disturber: Ah, grammar police rebuttal. Nice, uh, “contribution” to the argument.

@Ajay42302: What is the going rate for Soro’s trolls now? Does it depend on your credentials? Does having a PhD behind your name get you more dollars? If so why don’t you add them? We now have at least two separate Soro’s trolls on the site and likely one other. They sure don’t have much for standards.

@Pete: It’s The Democratic Party Pete.
I’d vote for Donald Duck over The Donald—-a true phony as you astutely pointed out.

Semper Fi—-Hope your Memorial Day reflected on our Patriots both Repubs and Dems who sacrificed all for us.

@Redteam:

Hillary wins, same old, same old.

I’m not that optimistic. I think Hillary is a power hungry sociopath. We have to remember how she treats people who get in the way of her ambition.

@Tor:

The presidency isn’t about intimidating others and acting childish, it’s about leadership and getting the support of the majority of the people, not a small segment of the population for a primary contest.

Which is why neither Trump, sHrillary or Screaming Santa Bernie are good choices. But they are what we are left with. All the candidates we had to pick from were flawed. Every – single – one. Still, out of the three remaining choices, Trump at least is a patriot. He doesn’t want to transform this nation into a bankrupt fascist-socialist oligarchy. He is representing the demands of middle class US workers, whom no one else seems to want to represent. I think he sincerely wants to return the American Dream to this nation. He is promising to take action against the tidal wave of illegal Democrat-Voters immigrants. He has come up with an excellent list of conservative SCOTUS choices. And Trump is promoting most of the conservative issues that GOP has had on it’s “to do” list for years, of which the lying-ass RINO establishment bastards have been holding out for decades as promised carrots to get votes, (but never actually delivering). If Trump only keeps half of his promises, we will be in better shape that with the progressive RINO establishment backstabbers.

One thing should be clear to all Republicans, conservatives, and moderates. This nation can not survive either a Hillary Clinton Bernie Sanders presidency.

Has it occurred to you that the media and the left WANTED Trump to be the nominee?

Don’t be absurd. The press has tried to destroy his campaign at every turn. They have treated Trump worse than they have Al Queda and ISIS (ISIL). Pro-Trump coverage is few and far between.

@Richard Wheeler:

Hope your Memorial Day was good as well, Richard.

Quick point – members of the “Democratic” party are democrats. An individual who follows said party is a democrat. You can, like other leftists, waste time complaining about the persistence of my cell phone spell checker in making annoying changes (made doubly annoying when I fat-finger this tiny keyboard and the spell checker fails to catch it) or you can take things in context.

@Ditto:

Which is why neither Trump, sHrillary or Screaming Santa Bernie are good choices. But they are what we are left with.

Which is why the situation we find ourselves is so incredible frustrating.
We didn’t have to get down in the mud with the left, we could have won this with a much better candidate and we could have been on the road to recovery

Don’t be absurd. The press has tried to destroy his campaign at every turn.

Aside from the a few interviews here and there, when did that take place?

They have treated Trump worse than they have Al Queda and ISIS (ISIL). Pro-Trump coverage is few and far between.

Except the facts contradict that assertion:

Trump Gets A Whopping 5 Times More Airtime Than Cruz On Major Networks | RedState http://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2016/04/04/trump-gets-whopping-5-times-airtime-cruz-major-networks/

The Prime Time Primary: Trump vs. His Rivals on Cable News http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/rich-noyes/2016/04/18/prime-time-primary-trump-vs-his-rivals-fox-news-cnn-and-msnbc

TV News Touts Trump, Crushes Cruz and Gives Bernie a Shot at Hillary http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/rich-noyes/2016/05/03/tv-news-touts-trump-crushes-cruz-and-gives-bernie-shot-hillary

Hot Mic Captures Trump Asking ‘Morning Joe’ Hosts For No ‘Too Hard’ Questions (AUDIO)
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/morning-joe-hot-mic-trump-conversation

Former CNN Anchor: Yes, TV Networks Deserve Blame for the Rise of Trump

Former CNN Anchor: Yes, TV Networks Deserve Blame for the Rise of Trump

via @mediaite

The Prime Time Primary: Trump vs. His Rivals on Cable News http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/rich-noyes/2016/04/18/prime-time-primary-trump-vs-his-rivals-fox-news-cnn-and-msnbc

Why I Blame TV for Trump http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/2016-donald-trump-blame-tv-cable-news-media-campbell-brown-campaign-cnn-fox-msnbc-213839

Drudge goes all in for Trump http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/drudge-report-donald-trump-221857

Voicemails Appear to Reveal Donald Trump’s Cozy Relationship With the Liberal Media
http://gawker.com/voicemails-appear-to-reveal-donald-trumps-cozy-relation-1762690660

And that’s not even scratching the surface of the fawning coverage from Fox Trump news.
Actually, the question could be asked where was the coverage of Trump that examined and vetted his background?
Where was the ‘Anti-Trump’ coverage?
If it’s supposedly that prevalent, you should be able to list out many of these instances.

Here is your intellectual rebuttal:

Everything you’re saying about Trump has already been said, repeatedly, for over a year now. They were the reasons given to predict he’d never win a single primary. Then they were the reasons why he’d never actually knock anyone out of the race. Then they were the reasons he’d never get enough delegates to lock down the nomination. Then they were the reasons he’d never overtake Clinton in the polls.

And every single time the predictions have been wrong. When your predictions are so consistently wrong you really need to re-examine your underlying assumptions.

@Pete: LOL, blame “Democrat Party” on your spell checker. Do you even believe yourself?

@Tor:
There seems to be the forgotten reality that Clinton will pick up Sanders supporters. How many? Not sure but look how many nevertrump folks flew up his ass. And as pointed out earlier, many Ds absolutely hate Trump in comparison to McCain in 08 or even Romney in 2012.

So what happens if 70% of the Sanders folks go Hillary? A recent NBC/WSJ says that takes it to 51% to 43% Hillary. CBS News/New York Times poll says it goes 50%-41%.

We’ve seen these types of numbers before and history seems consistent. Which as an aside and looking back at Nazi Germany, is precisely why we should never ever let a racist and egotistical opportunist like Trump nowhere near the WH.

@Ajay42302:

There’s already a racist and egotistical opportunist in the WH.

Evidently the majority of voters don’t see things that way. Obama’s average job approval rating continues to rise.

Possibly appreciation for Obama is increasing because people now have a daily opportunity to consider what a genuinely incompetent president might look like.

@James Felix:

There’s already a racist and egotistical opportunist in the WH

and also a foreign Muslim. May as well tell all the truth.

@Greg:

because people now have a daily opportunity to consider what a genuinely incompetent president might look like.

because people now have a daily opportunity to see, up close what a genuinely incompetent president actually looks like.

There, fixed it for you.

@Tor: 64

we could have won this with a much better candidate

for example? Who you got in mind?
I don’t find it strange at all that all of your references for how good the press is for Trump comes from liberal lefty sites. Good work.

where was the coverage of Trump that examined and vetted his background?

every liberal rag in the country is looking as furiously as they can. They have published all they’ve found. Zip.

@Redteam: Didn’t you forget a non-American?

@Ajay42302:

Didn’t you forget a non-American?

no, I clearly said “foreign Muslim”

@Ajay42302:

Ajay, just because YOU arw a lying, disingenuous sack of rancid democrat talking points (trolling for the evil hag Hillary) does not mean anyone else is as fundamentally dishonest as you and your ilk.

Don’t think that anyonr here is fooled by your complete inability to engage in actual discourse. Honestly, the pathetic performance you are making while being paid by Soros calls into question his capacity as a manipulative evil genius…at least in hiring the lowly Internet trolls like you. Perhaps Soros is suffering from the onset of progressive dementia….

(No sarc tag needed…not intended..)

@Redteam:

and also a foreign Muslim. May as well tell all the truth.

So then why are you perpetuating this right-wing fantasy & fancy?

What makes him foreign?

What makes him Muslim?

@Tor:

(Ditto:) Don’t be absurd. The press has tried to destroy his campaign at every turn.

(Tor:) Aside from the a few interviews here and there, when did that take place?

You must never look at newspapers, must not have a television and/or never watch news or political commentary programs. Or perhaps you live in a cave. Reports favorable to Trump are rare, compared with the coverage against him. Not our fault if you wear blinders.

@Redteam, #70:

Time might be better spent fixing whatever has gone wrong with the GOP.

@Redteam: We could have won this with a much better candidate

for example? Who you got in mind?

Have you forgotten all the contenders for the nomination?
Did any of them have as many problems as Trump?
[Don’t bother with a denial argument, anyone who took the time to be informed knows the man has issues.. but of course if you want to affirm that you are uninformed.. be my guest]

I don’t find it strange at all that all of your references for how good the press is for Trump comes from liberal lefty sites. Good work.

Is News Busters a ‘liberal lefty site’ Yes or No?
So much for your credibility….
BTW, is that the best you can offer – ad hominem attacks against sources?
Can you actually address the issue raised by all of those items?

Where was the coverage of Trump that examined and vetted his background?

every liberal rag in the country is looking as furiously as they can. They have published all they’ve found. Zip.

Are you having trouble understanding the concept that they are going to wait until after the hook is set to go after him just as they have in the past with other Republican candidates?
And are you seriously denying that the man has items they can attack?

@Ditto:

You must never look at newspapers, must not have a television and/or never watch news or political commentary programs. Or perhaps you live in a cave. Reports favorable to Trump are rare, compared with the coverage against him. Not our fault if you wear blinders.

Then it should be EASY for you to find all of those reports and post excerpts of them..
Since YOU are making the claim, YOU are the one who will have to back it up with facts.
Don’t expect to task others to prove YOUR point for YOU.
And don’t expect to post bare links to places that may or may not prove your claim.
Now, time for you to tottle off and give it a go finding all of those alleged examples..

@Ajay42302:

We’ve seen these types of numbers before and history seems consistent. Which as an aside and looking back at Nazi Germany, is precisely why we should never ever let a racist and egotistical opportunist like Trump nowhere near the WH.

Hmm interesting that you should make that reference… If one studies the rise and fall of the Third Reich an interesting phenomena is seen.
While the Brownshirts held sway back in the Germany Just before WWII many supported Hitler… But afterward such supporters where nowhere to be seen… Such is the fate of a populist bereft of principles…

@Wordsmith

So then why are you perpetuating this right-wing fantasy & fancy?

right wing? are you implying that only the ‘right’ tells the truth?

What makes him foreign?

A person that is not a US citizen is foreign. I’d thought you knew that.

What makes him Muslim?

Birth, education, practices, habits and customs. Other than that………..

@Greg: That will only be a quickie job, the Dims are a total rebuild.

@Tor:

for example? Who you got in mind?

Have you forgotten all the contenders for the nomination?

Yet you can’t name one?

And are you seriously denying that the man has items they can attack?

If it’s there, they would have found it.
Strange how many reference having a ‘better’ candidate than Trump but everyone is reluctant to say who that is that can win. Most of those that come to mind got blown out of the water from the beginning.
I think that kinda sunk their ambitions.

@Tor:

Is News Busters a ‘liberal lefty site’ Yes or No?

since you mention them, they kinda destroy your argument. They say that Trump got 327 minutes, Cruz 278 and Kasich 290 That means that Cruz got 85% as much time as Trump and Kasich got 89%. Considering the people’s interests, that seems to be way too much coverage for Kasich. But it certainly is not overwhelmingly for Trump as your assertion was/is.

@Pete: It’s been known for a good while that you just cannot have an intelligent conversation with Trump lickers. They’re very angry people who cannot be reasoned with and we know will provide a violentl backlash to anything putting their hero in a bad light, facts be damned.

And that same is true with bigots and racist and birthers. They don’t care about reality or how proven the President’s birth place is. And the same is true with people with a binary mindset that over half of the nation that doesn’t march lockstep to a radical far right agenda must be absolutely evil, no exceptions.

And actually, that holds true with someone that lies even to himself that calling the Democratic Party the “democrat party” is a typo. Folks like these deflect any facts or reality that interferes with their hate fest spin. Their spin becomes so delusional yet they’ve built their bigoted case around it to the point they’re forced to believe it themselves, even as it becomes more outlandish and regardless to what lengths it’s been debunked.

That’s just who you are and I understand that. Why would I want to engage in such festered hatred, abject ignorance, and obvious denial? I mean, that just doesn’t make sense, not that I’d expect you to understand that.

Heil Trump!

@Redteam: Have you forgotten all the contenders for the nomination?
To refresh your memory, here is the list:
Jeb Bush
Ben Carson
Chris Christie
Ted Cruz
Carly Fiorina
Jim Gilmore
Lindsey Graham
Mike Huckabee
Bobby Jindal
John Kasich
George Pataki
Rand Paul
Rick Perry
Rick Santorum
Marco Rubio
Scott Walker
Now, Please answer my question:

Did any of them have as many problems as Trump?

Expect me to repeat that question UNTIL you answer it.
[Don’t bother with a denial argument, anyone who took the time to be informed knows the man has issues.. but of course if you want to affirm that you are uninformed.. be my guest]

Redteam I don’t find it strange at all that all of your references for how good the press is for Trump comes from liberal lefty sites. Good work.

Is News Busters a ‘liberal lefty site’ Yes or No?
So much for your credibility….
BTW, is that the best you can offer – ad hominem attacks against sources?
Can you actually address the point I made?
Where was the coverage of Trump that examined and vetted his background? Are you having trouble understanding the concept that they are going to wait until after the hook is set to go after him just as they have in the past with other Republican candidates?

Redteam every liberal rag in the country is looking as furiously as they can. They have published all they’ve found. Zip.

And are you seriously denying that the man has items they can attack? Yes or No?

@Redteam: Is News Busters a ‘liberal lefty site’ Yes or No?

Again, you need to actually answer the question – and you circular logic rationale is entirely worthless.
Where did you obtain those numbers?

@Tor:

we could have won this with a much better candidate

I see you still can’t name one.

Did any of them have as many problems as Trump?

Expect me to repeat that question UNTIL you answer it.

Easy, all of them had as many or more problems than Trump.
I have yet to see you list a problem that Trump has.

Redteam every liberal rag in the country is looking as furiously as they can. They have published all they’ve found. Zip.

And are you seriously denying that the man has items they can attack? Yes or No?

Yes, he does not have huge problems that they can attack. You think they’re sitting on a huge story?
I’ll ask that again until you answer it.
I’ll also ask you to name that super special candidate that was spectacularly better than Trump until you name him. A ‘list’ won’t do.

@Tor:

Where did you obtain those numbers?

Geez, from the article you linked to. So now you’re gonna tell us you didn’t read the links.

Is News Busters a ‘liberal lefty site’ Yes or No?

Again, you need to actually answer the question

No problem, right after you name your super special ideal candidate that you keep referring to.

@Ajay42302:

“democrat party”

Hey you Obama*ss licker, are you saying you don’t know who they are referring to when someone says Dimocrat Party? They are referring to the Dim bulbs that call themselves Dimocrats.

with bigots and racist

how and why did you become a bigot and/or racist? Were you born that way or just migrated to it?

Heil Trump!

I think that answers it for us. You were clearly born to some followers of Hitler. Makes sense.

@Redteam: I see you still can’t name one.

I named several – are you having trouble comprehending that?

Easy, all of them had as many or more problems than Trump.

Then please list them out.

Yes, he does not have huge problems that they can attack. You think they’re sitting on a huge story?

Did you miss the part where I stated: They are going to wait until after the hook is set to go after him just as they have in the past with other Republican candidates?

Do you even know of all of Trump’s issues? Yes or No?

Again, I’ve named several, so to use your terminology I’ve blown that question ‘blown out of the water’ your going to have to try some other red herring…

@Tor:

But afterward such supporters where nowhere to be seen… Such is the fate of a populist bereft of principles…

Are you claiming that no one that followed Hitler during the war would admit to it afterward? You clearly don’t know History.

@Tor:

I see you still can’t name one.

I named several – are you having trouble comprehending that?

I see you still can’t name ‘one’.

They are going to wait until after the hook is set to go after him

Oh, so you’re claiming that the Republicans still have not decided on a nominee. So if and when Trump gets the nom, then these liberal newshounds are going to start shaking the bushes to see what falls out. Sure, they are. I’d think there are many more establishment Repubs looking for something to disqualify Trump. Do you think they’re going to turn up a lost link to Hitler or Jeffrey Daumer or Lenin?

Do you even know of all of Trump’s issues? Yes or No?

Again, I’ve named several,

Really, I can’t find any, perhaps you could list the number of the comment where you did this.

@Redteam: Geez, from the article you linked to. So now you’re gonna tell us you didn’t read the links.

Which one?
Please post an excerpt of that data.

Is News Busters a ‘liberal lefty site’ Yes or No?

Again, you need to actually answer the question

No problem, right after you name your super special ideal candidate that you keep referring to.

Where did I specify That criteria?
Where did you get that strawman argument?

I stated: We could have won this with a much better candidate.
Meaning several of the candidates of the list would have done much better since they didn’t have the issues that plague Trump.
In other words, that was a generalized statement unconnected to a specific candidate.
[Expect me to repeat that assertion until you comprehend its meaning]

Again, I’ve already answered that question, Now YOU have to answer mine:
Did any of them have as many problems as Trump?
Please list them out.

Curt: It looks like my reply to Tor is in captcha limbo.

I’m not seeing it in the spam or pending folder Ditto.

@Pete: Doctor You’re too smart to make such a stupid excuse. Democratic Party in the future.

@Curt:

OK thanks for checking Curt. I guess it got lost somewhere in captcha land.

@Tor:

Meaning several of the candidates of the list would have done much better since they didn’t have the issues that plague Trump.

Yet you can’t name just one that is better than Trump.

And, so far, you haven’t been able to name a issue that plagues Trump.

Where did you get that strawman argument?
From the strawman supply store.

[Expect me to repeat that assertion until you comprehend its meaning]
Typical troll, demanding that I answer a question when you refuse to do so yourself.

Which one?
Please post an excerpt of that data.

You are one strange dude, you post a link, I quote from it, you ask where it’s from, I tell you the link that you provided and you still can’t find it. Well, it’s there, check it out.

Did any of them have as many problems as Trump?
Yet you can’t name one ‘problem’ that Trump has/had.

@Ajay42302:

No matter how many times you spout off about me being a “Trump licker”, it doesn’t make it true. Your posts merely cement the intrinsic dishonesty of your character.

I have repeatedly stated my concerns about Trump’s character, and how unfortunate it is that I must chose between him and the utterly contemptible Clinton. Your antipathy towards Trump would be considered honest wariness, were you not so synchophantically dismissive of the far greater loathesomeness of Hillary.

Of course, your Alinsky-ite tactic of trying to brand my opposition to leftist insanity as “extremist” reveals the pathetic failed emptiness of your position. After all, snivelly name calling is the only recourse left to the intellectually void when they cannot effectively debate.

@Pete: It’s almost funny, dealing with these trolls, isn’t it Pete?