One of the more persistent myths built up around Donald’s campaign to steal the nomination from Ted Cruz is that Don is heroically bearing up under a media onslaught meant to bring him down.
One can almost see the frescos and murals on buildings now of Donald and his faithful cadre of Donners beating back the likes of Sean Hannity, Rush, Fox news and the drudge report in their quest to wrest the nomination away from the ‘GOPe’ that Donald is allegedly entitled to.
For months now, the numbers have shown this to be a myth of almost epic proportions:
The media’s $2 billion gift to Trump
The Prime Time Primary: Trump vs. His Rivals on Fox News, CNN and MSNBC
Donald receives far more media coverage than anyone else – to which the Donners have the baseless and trite media onslaught rejoinder. One only needs to remind them that Donald can only seem to talk to certain media personalities while shunning others. The question of the occasion of Donald’s last challenging media interview aside from the Charlie Sykes Interview back at the end of March will leave them without a viable answer.
Hint: He hasn’t had one and he avoids like the plague interviewers who might offer any formidable questions
Further destroying this myth is the fact that -at least for a time -he was granted privileges not available to others such as phone interviews.
But at this point the Trannity affair has torn that all asunder, the afore mentioned Sean, Rush, Fox news and the drudge are so far in the Trump tank they get the bends on occasion.
Now, those people have a perfect right to support whomever they choose, but only if they do so in the open and give their audience a right to decide whether to listen to them or not. Maintaining their false pretense of ‘neutrality’ does a severe (if not fatal) disservice to their credibility.
This hidden media backing also highlights that Donald’s polling numbers are based on faulty perceptions ranging from media neutrality to outright hostility.
Were these media acolytes for Donald to come clean as it were his extra boast in polling would be seen for what is – a chimera that will evaporate into the ether in the fall sending his dreadful chances into the subbasement.
I go around the channels in the AM.
Fox and Friends is one show I catch in part.
How many times have they said, before or after a Trump telephone interview, that they approach the Cruz people and the Kasich people EVERY DAY for a bit of telephone time on the air for their candidates?
And what is the answer?
Thanks, but no thanks.
The Cruz and Kasich camps both claim their candidates are too busy to get on the phone in an AM to reach thousands of people.
How is that Donald Trump’s fault?
How does that put Fox ”in the tank” for Trump?
Seems they try to be fair and balanced abut are thwarted by the candidates’ camps.
Watch the show enough and you will see this, too.
Uh, I don’t think it’s Trump who’s attempting to steal the nomination. Trump appears to be the guy most republican voters would like to select as their candidate. They probably will, unless his effort can be successfully sabotaged by the party establishment.
Have people forgotten how far behind Cruz is in the current vote count? Trump isn’t trying to steal second place.
The media by and large do hate Donald Trump. But they rarely outright disparage him because there is something they love more than they hate Trump: they love ratings and Trump brings them. That’s the reason he gets free coverage. As for playing the “victim” card, I don’t like it any more than you do, but Americans right and left love their victims. I sincerely doubt he views himself as such – he just knows how to play his hand.
@Greg: Question: Has Donald attained an absolute majority in ALL of his primaries contests?
..The answer is no…
The vote has been split between several other candidates and most of the party doesn’t support him – he’s only attained only roughly 1/3 of the support from the GOP
In fact:
@Robert What?: It’s irrelevant WHY the media covers Donald, only that they do..
Now were Donald to somehow steal the nomination….. and come the General election, that coverage will change overnight, just has it has in the previous presidential contests..
@Greg:
That is not the case:
@Tor, #4:
The chart breaking out the results of this recent poll suggests Trump’s now got nearly twice the republican support Cruz has, and more than Cruz and Kasich have combined. He seems to be gaining momentum. I’m beginning to think a contested convention might not happen after all, and I’m certainly not saying that as a fan of Donald Trump.
Poll: Trump Reaches 50 Percent Support Nationally for the First Time
@Tor: Ah, Tor,
I keep hearing more and more of the once-called ”Never Trumps,” admitting they MUST vote for the Rep nominee no matter if it is Trump or anyone else.
Hillary is a gun grabber, fraught with scandals, doesn’t have an honest bone in her body and would probably ruin this entire country financially just to try to keep ObamaCare afloat.
Tonight, according to USNews, ”Trump captured far over 50 percent in each of the five states, topping the 60 percent marker in Rhode Island and Delaware.”
Ted Cruz, like John Kasich, has been mathematically eliminated from winning the nomination on a 1st ballot.
Trump is up by 27 points in CA.
Kasich came in 2nd tonight in all but one state where Cruz took 2nd instead of 3rd.
It was Feb when someone -other-than-Trump led a National Poll about who Republicans expect to get the nomination.
@Nanny G: #8
“I keep hearing more and more of the once-called ”Never Trumps,” admitting they MUST vote for the Rep nominee no matter if it is Trump or anyone else.”
As a Trump supporter, (I also support Cruz, but it’s just too much fun being branded online!) that is what I’ve said that I would all along. Even Kasich would be better than Ma Barker.
The Never Trumps are acting like spoiled children, threatening to take their toy vote and go home if they don’t get their way. Or poo-flinging monkeys, take your pick.
The adults in the room agree with you.
Trump did great job in the extremely liberal east, look at the total votes cast on the Dem side vs Republican side. I dont think a contested convention will bode well for Trump, so he must do nearly as well in Western States as he did in lib-land.
The deal Cruz has with Kasich, I m not sure thats a great strategy, if you dont woo a vote you may not deserve a vote I am sure Cruz already has talked to the delegates, The news shows seem to be nearly writing Trump off everywhere but California, I’m not so sure about that. he needs 247 for the lock.
@kitt: Each of the 6 states won by Trump will vote Dem. in the G.E.
If you back Trump you are electing HRC—Let’s see what happens in Indiana.
Trump ,if nominated, will need Kasich as V.P.–Is Trump smart enough to shut up?
@Tor: Using your logic, only half of the Dims will vote for Shrillary. She’s only getting half the vote. You think the Sanders voters won’t vote for her in the election? The Repubs will vote for the nom also.
@Tor: It’ kinda unusual for the person receiving most of the votes to be referred to as ‘stealing the vote’. When an underdog comes up and surprises the leader, that would be in that category, of ‘stealing the election’. Keep up your sense of humor, tho.
@Rich Wheeler: So now Bernie is going to run as an Indy, that should split the Dim votes very well.
@Tor: Tor, you need to use a little logic, Every point you make about Trump is even worse if you substitute Cruz in the sentence, for example:”Reminder: Most Republicans Have Voted against Trump”
“Reminder: Most(even more) Republicans Have Voted against Cruz”
Or
“If you cannot even get a majority of the delegates in your own party, how can you expect to win the November election for president?”If you cannot even get the largest number of the delegates in your own party, how can you expect to win the November election for president?
For any case you make for Trump, it is even worse for Cruz.
So why bother?
@kitt:
don’t know which networks you are watching, all the Fox shows are ready to call it for Trump on the Repub side.
@Greg: Has Donald attained an absolute majority in ALL of his primaries contests? Yes or No?
Was that a scientific poll? If not, then it is useless.
@Nanny G: So baseless anecdotal evidence somehow disproves hard data analysis?
Try Again please..
@Nanny G:Please dispense with the Strawman arguments.
Make no mistake, it will be the fault of Donners if ComradeClinton wins.
You could be made a measured analysis of the candidates in the race, had you done so would have seen that Donald is rife with faults and a mansion sized closet full of skeletons.
Did you look at all of those faults and dismiss them, or did you carefully reconsider your decision at each point along the way?
@Redteam:
Strawman argument. Please keep to what I have actually said.
It’s unusual for someone acting presidential to talk in those terms.
Did Donald complain about that issue when he won a primary?
Have you actually seen the polling data and analysis for the General election contests?
Question: What is the whole point of of the nomination process?
@Tor:
To select a candidate to run for office.
You’re the one talking in those terms and I don’t think you’re acting presidential. I haven’t heard Trump talk about Trump ‘stealing’ the election. And it’s not possible for Trump to steal it anyway as long as he is the leader in voting, by far. It would be ‘winning the nom’ not ‘stealing the nom’, that’s what the Cruz/Kasich pact is all about: How to steal the nom from Trump.
Your point is that Trump hasn’t gotten over 50% of the vote. You do remember the vote was initially split amongst 17 candidates, don’t you. When it’s down to only 3, Trump is wiping the floor, he got over 50% of the vote yesterday.
I’ve decided that Bernie is going indy and will split the Dim vote and the Repub nom will be a shoo-in. Footnote: Bernie actually has always been an Socialist, he’s just trying to upset the Dims by running on their ticket.
@Tor:
It would be interesting to see where you place Hillary in comparison to Trump. You think she might be rife with faults and a mansion sized closet full of skeletons? You think she’s dishonest? lies? steals? etc?
Footnote: Trump has made thousands of deals around the world and no one, not a single person, has come forward claiming that Trump is dishonest, lies, is unethical, etc? Have you heard of any? Even one?
@Redteam:
Just about all of the dems are socialists. He just happens to state so publicly instead of putting on a charade pretending he’s not.
@another vet: He’s a socialist–he’ll back HRC and DEFINATELY won’t make a 3rd Party run.
EXIT Q–Do you think it possible for a candidate to win POTUS with less than 40% of the female vote? Less than 25% of the Latino vote?
@Rich Wheeler:
What does that mean? Is it English?
@Rich Wheeler: EXIT Q–Do you think it possible for a candidate to win POTUS that is openly a criminal? That is guilty of treason? That abandoned her people in BenGhazi? That supplied arms to al qaeda in Libya? That covered up all crimes of her philandering husband? That had Vince Foster eliminated? Do you think Americans will openly support that person?
@Redteam:
Wrong, it’s to nominate a candidate who can WIN and unite the party around a common agenda.
Donald does neither.
Is he supported by the majority of the party? Yes or No?
ComradeClinton is a Socialist and liar amoungst other faults.
Seriously?
For you to say that means you are woefully uniformed…
Just ‘One’ recent item:
@Tor:
Show me a mission statement from any party’s platform that states it to be anything other than to nominate a candidate to seek the office of President.
You will note that if they state it as you ‘suppose’ then they fail in their mission on average, 50% of the time.
A story so unimportant that a major network didn’t feel worthy of mention.
Surely you can do better than that. Even the stories that I’ve seen written about these claims essentially admit that they got what was promised. Nothing will come of that civil case. Notice it won’t go to trial til ‘after’ the election. How would you compare Hillary’s antics to Trump?
You sure have an axe to grind, did he pee on your parade?
Trump is involved in 169 lawsuits just right now but he keeps his attorney well fed.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-bills-specialrepor-idUSKCN0T214Q20151113
https://www.publicintegrity.org/2011/05/05/4478/donald-trumps-lawsuits-cou
I guess paying the working guy is highly important to this guy.
Bring back businesses so he can rip them off.
@kitt: Sounds as if he takes offense at contractors trying to rip him off. I guess you would just ‘take it’?
Sounds like he is used to whining about stuff to get his way, in these cases not to pay as contracted. But its his way I am sure he will think those on SS are ripping off America next. Then the vets taking advantage of the system. Who knows how he will change his spots as his campaign manager said what he is today is a big act.
Someone asked for the information and I found what the Dems are going to pound him with during the general election.
@Redteam: A mission statement to put forth what should be bloody obvious?
You wanted an example, I provided one – at the same time showing press bias.
Where you aware of that allegation before I mentioned it Yes or No?
Such allegations will part of the campaign against Donald in the fall – and the reason he would LOSE.
@kitt:
So I’m guessing you’re seeing Hillary as getting a free ride? She has done nothing wrong? Ask Ambassador Stevens mother about that. Ask Vince Foster’s mother. Ask Juanita Brodderick and Monica Lewinsky.
But I guess no one cares about that
@Tor:
So you’re British, I should have known.
Are you saying that one objective of the Republican Party is ‘not’ to nominate a candidate to seek the office of President? I believe that is their primary objective.
While all the allegations against Hillary will work ‘for’ her? You have quite a sense of humor.
@Redteam:
That is irrelevant.
Again, the purpose is to nominate a candidate who can WIN and unite the party around a common agenda. (again, it should be bloody obvious that seek(ing) the office of President is Included in the process of winning)
Again:
Where you aware of that allegation before I mentioned it Yes or No?(You can expect me to repeat that question until you answer it)
@Redteam: I am still waiting for the DOJ to do their job and indict the witch, not holding my breath
@Tor:
No it’s not, you’re still PO’d that ya’ll lost the States and are still trying to undermine our government. As evidence, you want Hillary to win.
Again, I disagree. The purpose of the convention is to nominate the best candidate and hope they win. If the objective was to win, then they are setting themselves up for 50% performance.
Yes, allegations. And allegations are just that, allegations. Trump is not charged with any wrongdoing. Someone is suing him for fraud, but being sued is not akin to actually having done anything. For every person making that allegation, their are hundreds of satisfied customers. Some unethical lawyers entice free loaders to bring suit in hopes of a big payday. Come back when they actually get that payday.
@Redteam:
Where did you get that Strawman?
Where you aware of that allegation before I mentioned it Yes or No?
Then why did you say:
You are contradicting yourself.
BTW, More evidence the media is helping Donald:
@Tor:
Do you have a phobia about strawmen?
Absolutely not. When I answer questions, I use reasonableness. Someone making a half baked claim that they are unhappy with some course they took has to do more with their intelligence and abilities. I’ll bet you can find many complaining that they didn’t get their money’s worth from Harvard. There are many thousands of unemployed college graduates and it’s safe to say that they don’t feel as if they got their money’s worth. Are the colleges defrauding these people? Is it whining? is whining a legitimate claim that someone defrauded them. So I stand by my statement: ” Trump has made thousands of deals around the world and no one, not a single person, has come forward claiming that Trump is dishonest, lies, is unethical, etc?” A whining loser is hardly credible in making false claims.
I see nothing in your link that indicates that the media is interested in promoting Trump, all I see is their interest in helping themselves. Quit using doublespeak.
@Redteam:
Where did you get that Strawman?(You can expect me to repeat that question until you answer it)
You are contradicting yourself.
Denial isn’t an argument.
In one instance YOU stated:
Multiple persons have come forward saying that, and yet you claim to have known of this.
So which is it?
You can’t have it both ways.
Bonus question: Fill in the Blank Vera ____________
@Tor:
I got it at the strawman store. there, it’s answered. Do you have a strawman phobia? expect me to ask that question til you answer it.
Multiple?
that? what is ‘that’? Why would they say ‘that’?
Where did FA drag you in from? You must live in a liberal swamp somewhere?
is a good old girl.
@Rich Wheeler: It depends how bad the other candidate does with the remainder of the voters you are ignoring.
@Redteam: Clearly you have nothing on which to base that accusation.
Therefore you have LOST that part of the argument.
And clearly your previous claim:
Has been eviscerated. Again, you have LOST that argument.
Bonus question: Fill in the Blank Vera ____________
Having trouble with that question?
Are you in any way informed about Donald’s past you would know this name – and the fact that it once again eviscerate your previous asseveration.
@Tor:
I answered it. You deny that I gave an appropriate answer? If so tell me why what I said was not appropriate.
you trying to declare yourself king? You didn’t provide any names of anyone with a valid claim to proving Trump dishonest or crooked. Til you do, you lose. notice the words ‘valid claim’ in that sentence.
your above comments are clear evidence.
@another vet: Don’t care how well you do with other voters–if you are under 40% with women— who are 52%-53% of electorate— as Trump surely will be—you lose.
History will continue to repeat itself.
Bombastic Bobby Knight for Trump–perfect.
Add Schilling for the trifecta.
@Rich Wheeler:
Since you love political polls, this last one shows that you are ignoring other groups. Hillary has a 6 point lead with women and a lead with minorities. Trump leads men by the same margin as Hillary with women. He leads with indies by an 11 point margin. The result? They are tied 38-38. It also shows just how disliked they are.
One thing is certain, this election will give new definition to the phrase, “choosing between the lesser of two evils” given no other election has had candidates with unfavorability ratings as high as these two. One advantage Trump has over Hillary is that his primary process was far more grueling. Bernie went very easy on her. He left a lot of issues untouched, the biggest ones being her email scandal and honesty (Benghazi). The outcome of the email scandal will hurt her even if this politcally corrupt DOJ fails to indict her for breaking the law. Rest assured, at least one family of one of those slain in Benghazi will tell about the lies she told the families of the fallen. Then we also have the emails showing that she lied when she told the American public that the attack was about a video while she was telling her daughter and Saudi reps that it had nothing to do a video but was a terrorist attack. On women’s issues, can’t wait to see those old accusations against Bill’s ladies come out where she called them sluts, tramps, whores, and trailer trash. There are a lot of younger women voters who were too young or weren’t around back then to now about the real Hillary and her real attitudes toward women.
I don’t care about Knight or Schilling since, other than the Blackhawks, I don’t follow sports. I also realize you like PC. I don’t
Tor,
You keep accusing other posters of using a strawman fallacy.
I do not think that fallacy means what you think it does.
When Obama tells an audience that some imaginary opponents say a seriously stupid thing as if all his opponents agree with that imaginary and absurd position…..THAT is a strawman fallacy.
When I said some of the GOPe are coming around to Trump it is NOT a strawman.
It might be a ”hasty generalization,” IF I were to imply that ALL the GOPe will thus come around to support Trump.
I have no way of knowing what proportion of the old GOPe will come around.
Kitt:
So, what does that say about Donald Trump’s wins in
Florida,
Georgia,
Alabama,
Mississippi,
Louisiana,
Arkansas,
Tennessee,
Kentucky,
South Carolina,
North Carolina,
Virginia,
Maryland,
Missouri?
Are these also extremely liberal?
No, of course not.
Yet Trump won all of them.
@Rich Wheeler:
So Schilling is not for the libs? Gee, what a surprise.
@another vet: Forget Trump and HRC
Marine General James Mattis looking at 3rd Party run. This guy is top notch.
@Rich Wheeler: Link to that cause I read he was a no go he said he was not a politician.
Thats the guy I hoped Cruz would beg for veep.