Playtime for millionaires is over, someone close to “The Donald” (who he can’t fire for uttering a discouraging word ) has to approach him and let him know that it’s time to put his “abortive” experiment to bed and suspend his campaign. (or douse the dumpster fire, whichever analogy fits)
And while he had a good run and perhaps accomplished a few things like downing political correctness and selling red baseball caps the damage has been excessively conspicuous.
Let’s face it, while politicians aren’t the most sought after in terms of honesty and forthrightness, they do have their place in polite society. You hire a brain surgeon to do brain surgery, a property developer to develop property and a political personality to handle politics. We all have a place on God’s green earth with a purpose to fulfill and one must play to one’s strengths.
The past few weeks has shown that “The Donald” is way out of his element in terms of his innate abilities and weaknesses. A man who cannot hold his tongue (or Tweet as the case may be) shows himself to be particularly unsuitable for high office – especially the first time off the starting blocks. Such “non political” celebrities can be supremely entertaining in the reality show of life, but when it comes to matters of life and death the man (or woman) you want one who takes a considered approach to and thinks before speaking (or tweeting) out lest damage control becomes a repeated functionality in an ever tightening feedback loop.
Each new day brings forth embarrassing manifestations, the man can’t speak without putting his foot in his mouth (Too bad that expression isn’t related to his hands – they might fit with room to spare, but I digress) Instead of unified thought he flies off the handle with insults and gaffes that cost several precious news cycles off message to mitigate the damage.
Consider this enumeration of the succession of debacles that stand out as the most egregious in the past few weeks.
Instead of quickly apologizing to Michelle Fields the Trumpster choose to act like a leftist thug attacking and trying to denigrate her story. Trump fans taunted her with questions of why she didn’t file a police report and why there was no video of the event after which the whole thing blew up in their collectives faces.
The re-tweet attack on the wife of the Ted Cruz – along with his other chauvinistic calamities -should put him is good stead to lose100% of the female vote, which appears to be his sought-after goal.
Donald Trump has LOST several contests in a row, with his polling in a nosedive and his campaign in alert condition Orange.
All of this culminating in the Trumpster’s ignominious defeat in Wisconsin, his 4th in a row. And instead being magnanimous in that defeat Trump choose to be petty and vindictive, along with hurling a spurious accusation of the commission of a Federal crime. These are not the confident actions of a man on a winning streak but the contemptible misdeeds of a failure in a steep decline.
Part of the man’s appeal is his whining. Er.. winning.. but his polls are tanking and he’s losing primaries even with his friends in the media provide him with 5 times the coverage
Trump’s numerous gaffes, missteps and flip-flops makes it plain the man is not ready for prime time, he’s not even ready for late night infomercials for the “Trump network”.
This is not to mention that the man is destined to lose in the November election, an election the right should win with their eyes closed. Bear in mind this is not a candidate who made a few missteps and can recover, this is a man who’s been in the public eye for decades. Trumps is a very a polarizing figure, people either hate the man or have fallen for his scams and schemes. This time around is no different, Trumpfins seem not to care about each new revelation and colossal mistake and blithely go on supporting the man. This aside for the folks supporting Trump from the other side who are salivating at a landslide victory against him.
Side note: Shouldn’t “Republicans” who support Trump be abjectly horrified by all of his antics over the past few weeks? And yet they are not…… makes you contemplate if they are truly “Republicans”?
It’s assured that Trump has some temporary advantages, primarily a fawning media that lets him have full reign with his Trump Scam infomercial with nary a hard question asked. But were the Trumpster to get the nomination that advantage would quickly turn around with the left now out to get him at each turn. The same holds true for all the Temporary cross over voters from the left trying to choose the worst possible candidate for our side.
In summary, we are seeing a campaign fly apart before our very eyes, wrecking itself on the rocks of history. Shouldn’t we put it out of our misery while there is still time to save the country?
@kitt:
absolutely correct. And buying American won’t work, there’s not enough. Have to have more ‘Made in America”.
A good example, that Ford plant they’re about to start in Mexico that the US is spending 1.6 billion to build. Some state should build it free in their state with profits from it being forgiven in that state, taxes only paid on wages paid. That way would have to be cheaper for Ford to operate than in Mexico. There are ways.
@Melba Boffin: 98@
But I didn’t say I was from Canada or Russia. Most Americans equate Red with Conservatives, blue with Liberals. I’ll let you try to figure that out.
I have no problem being identified with conservatives.
I can’t imagine the views you get there in Russia.
And that from someone that clearly says she is Melba “Boffin” she doesn’t say who or what she is Boffin.
Would you translate it into English?
Absolutely, you need some glasses?
@Redteam: Buying American will help in a small measure. There are other solutions, yours is a good one. Significant reduction in paperwork required by the government.
Unionized companies should require the union to do much of the government paperwork required for each employee. That might start the lobbying effort against further mindless regulations.
@Redteam: Do you not understand that Red has been identified with the Left?
Do you not understand that Leftist WANT Trump to be the nominee?
Since you can’t seem to act like an adult here are some those issues one more time:
Are you denying the man’s very high Unfavorability?
Are you denying how free media they are providing?
@kitt: Let’s think about this for a few minutes. Who likely has the most or best knowledge of how to stimulate or create business in the US? A career politician or a career successful business man?
Most people never think about that but consider. Let’s pick on Ford, for example. Say they have a manufacturing plant in the US. Doesn’t matter how old it is or if it’s profitable, but if Ford wants to shut it down and build a new one in Mexico, the US government lets them write off all the losses associated with shutting it down, then gives them investment tax credits to build the new plant in Mexico. The definition of insanity.
Instead of letting them write off the old plant, let them write off the value of all the improvements they make in that plant and no credit for any investment in new plants in foreign countries. Everything in US tax laws encourage divestitures of US investments and investments in foreign countries. Insanity.
@Redteam: You are just as moronic as Greg you just are not going to get it. Doesn’t matter how its put to you, and I am finished wasting my time having a battle of wits with the unarmed.
@Melba Boffin:
When will you be coming back from Russia. Red is conservative in the USA, that’s where I’m located. Sorry you’re having to spend time over there.
and they also want Hillary or Bernie elected.
And you’re spending all your time Boffin and think that shows maturity?
Which man?
Now you’re whining, maybe you should go back to Boffin.
CNN,PMSNBC AND FOX cover the news 24 hours a day. One of the candidates is likely on at any time. If you were in that business, would you provide coverage that people want to watch, or coverage that no one wants to watch? I would suggest that if your channel were covering news that you don’t want to see, you would change to another channel.
Or, are you claiming that some of the channels cover one candidate more than 24 hours a day? Up to 24 is reasonable, over 24 is extra.
Oh, but we’re talking about news coverage in the Red countries. You’ll have to tell about those.
@kitt: So believing that a business man would likely be a better creator of business than a politician is moronic?
oh, you thought you were having a battle of wits? I didn’t know you were trying to be funny. I didn’t ask you to address any comments to me. It’s a free country.
Who’s Greg?
@Redteam: Are you denying the man’s very high Unfavorability?
Wow! You really said that! You went there just to avoid the question again.
Do you remember the subject of this discussion? His name starts with a ‘T’.
Are you denying how free media they are providing?
@Melba Boffin:
oh, Ted. got it.
Would you translate this into English?
@Melba Boffin: are you implying that CNN and MSNBC charges Cruz and Bernie and Hillary when they cover them but do not charge Trump when they cover him? I would think I would have heard about that and have those channels attempted to negotiate a higher rate for their coverage so they can increase their profit? Did Trump negotiate with those channels for free coverage or are they doing it to get viewers?
Fill us in on the details. How much do they charge Ted whenever they do a story on him vs the free coverage for Trump?
You’re the one claiming it’s true, give us the details.
@Redteam: It’s plain as the graffiti on a Dumpster: Time for Trump to get out of the race.
Now that you should be able to comprehend the question, why don’t you answer it instead of using childishly avoidance tactics.
Are you denying all the free media being provided to Trump?
@Redteam:
Do try and answer the question without the strawman distractions.
Malign Trump much as you want. We love him because he’s sincere and capable, and a patriot.
@JJ:
Yes, he’s those things, and you are free to love him for them.
Unfortunately for you, what he is doesn’t stop there.
He is a Democrat, sadly, and that reality should be profoundly disturbing to the people who are otherwise attempting to give him the Republican nomination for the presidential election. Why it is not is a mystery to me.
@Melba Boffin:
I do not believe that any of the politicians pay the news channel’s, CNN, MSNBC OR FOX NEWS to cover them.
I do not believe any of the guests on the shows get ‘appearance’ money, nor do they pay the network to have them on.
Are you under the perception that Bernie, Hillary and Cruz have to pay when they’re on the interview shows at night or on Sundays? I’ve never heard of that, but if you have evidence that everyone except Trump is having to pay to be invited to the news shows, please provide some evidence to us. You should be able to find ‘multiple’ links, I would think.
@George Wells: So George, what is the alternative for the country? Hillary, Bernie? maybe we should keep Obama 4 more years. (yes, I know that won’t happen) but just who do you see as someone that might actually have some answers as to what direction to take the country?
@JJ: he’s the only one with even a slight clue as to how to get the country headed in the right direction.
@Redteam #116:
Regrettably, Republican primary voters supported legitimately qualified candidates so poorly that they have all either dropped out of the race or are effectively stopped. What, indeed, IS the alternative? Once all good options are eliminated, only bad ones remain. When ANY choice will understandably result in a disaster, all that remains is to pick which disaster you prefer. Personally, I prefer one that will not include reversal of gay right gains that have recently been achieved. I will vote accordingly. I would expect you to vote differently, but I really don’t care which disaster you pick, or why. It’s none of my business.
@George Wells:
whether I do the picking of which disaster or you do the picking of the disaster, I think it’s not going to be good for either of us. I don’t see homosexuality going out of style for those of that persuasion.
@JJ: Patriot –he dodged Viet Nam service to chase skirts–some patriot.
Sincere–that’s funny
Capable–I’ll give you that
Kasich/Rubio if you wanna win and hold The Senate.
@Redteam #119:
“I don’t see homosexuality going out of style for those of that persuasion.”
I don’t think that “going out of style” has anything to do with it. Homosexuality in the human population has remained at roughly 3% over the entire span of time that even remotely reliable data on the subject have been kept, and it hasn’t made a significant difference whether the culture in question was hostile/violent toward it or accepting. This suggests that environment at best makes only a small difference in the incidence of homosexuality, and that its cause is something other than choice.
@George Wells: Yep, I agree.
I think you might agree that some percentage of homosexuality is choice but ‘born that way’ is the preponderance of the population.
Side note: I was just looking at ‘world counters’ and never realized how huge the numbers of abortions are relative to the other causes for deaths in the US and World. All the commotion is about guns and gun violence. Those numbers pale in comparison to the numbers killed by abortions. roughly 33,000 vs 1 million.
@Rich Wheeler:
RW, he was talking about Trump who had a medical deferment. You’re thinking of the felony draft dodger, that you voted for, Slick Willie.
Get your head out of your chapless ass.
no response needed.
@Redteam #22:
I agree with your breakdown of orientation determinants. I think that your ‘wiring” analogy might be a bit misleading, since there isn’t actually any wire involved in human anatomy. The REAL causes of homosexuality are yet to be FULLY understood, and may never be. But that doesn’t necessarily preclude compassion for a group that has been persecuted mercilessly for most of recorded history.
As for your comment on abortion, I take this consideration to heart:
Those million aborted fetuses you note would otherwise have been born to and raised by people who had no interest in them, likely leading to more or less one million additional poverty-stricken, mal-adjusted, emotionally abandoned, under-educated, economically marginalized social misfits added to our overburdened population for no better reason than to weigh on and victimize the rest of productive society.
The total cost of saving that fractional population of diminishing returns is prohibitive, even if life IS precious, and I don’t personally believe it is.
I will not have my heart broken by images of bloodied corpses, whether on a battlefield or in an abortion doctor’s waste bin. We squander life at every turn, and yet we are drowning in excesses of it. It is perhaps a cold and unsympathetic calculation that brings me to this conclusion, but I see no evidence that it is wrong.
@Melba Boffin: You’ll notice it’s easy to pick out the Trumpists at FA.– Enchanted, Petercat, RedTeam, Bill—Like DT, the object of their fawning adoration, they revel in sleazy grade school rhetoric. As the noose tightens around Trump’s failing run they’ll choose to blame others–Soros, the lame stream media. RNC ad nauseum. Trump the bullying narcissist will bellow and rant as the nomination is “stolen” from him.
He’ll do well in N.Y. and the northeast but loose in the West—finishing with a poor showing in Cal. –
After the first ballot in Cleveland his delegates will leave him like rats on a sinking ship.
The great “deal maker/ negotiator”, who couldn’t wrangle a single delegate out of Colorado, will head back to his reality show– mercifully-fired by the Republican Party before the American electorate could decimate him.
@Rich Wheeler #125:
Exactly as it will happen.
Don’t you find it a bit telling that while those Trumpists you mention fuss like dried-up old ladies over precisely who (besides THE DONALD) is to BLAME for Trump’s well-lubricated slide, not a one of them is willing to predict anything different from exactly what YOU predict.
If they genuinely believed that you were wrong, they’d tell us what THEY thought would happen, and why.
But they don’t.
Kind of makes you feel all warm and fuzzy, doesn’t it?
@George Wells:
I agree that there is no copper or other ‘wire’ in the human body, but most think of the nerves as being the ‘wiring’ of the body since it transmits signals throughout the body and to the central control system.
No problem with that statement.
As for your statements about abortion. The main point I was making was that while there is so much anguish and teeth gnashing because of ‘guns killing people’ when that is but a small fraction of the numbers killed by abortions.
You make a good point about the futures of those humans killed by abortions and the likely value of their lives. I would guess that most of the persons killed by the violence of handguns are most likely of the same class and had no value to humanity either. Perhaps they could just raise the age for legal abortions up to 18 years and it would stop a lot of the killing by handguns. But I make no judgments about those folks. As long as it’s legal to kill babies for any reason, people will do so.
@Rich Wheeler:
And you will note Old rainbow warrior, assless chaps Wheeler is trying to outdo the others with his whole new standards for sleazy.
So do you really think he will loose in the West?
Trump must really be giving you nightmares.
No response necessary.
@George Wells:
One reason I won’t respond is because, even though old assless chaps Wheeler, the rainbow warrior, lists me amongst the Trumpists (whatever that is), I have consistently told him and everyone on this blog that I’m not a Trump supporter. My only observations are the obvious: he’s the Republican front runner. I don’t have a clue who the Republican or Dimocrat candidates will be. I suspect that the more crooked the candidate is, the more his chances improve.
@Redteam #129:
Of COURSE you don’t KNOW what’s going to happen, and neither does Rich, and I don’t KNOW either. But WE have gaming spirit, and WE have fun speculating on what the future will bring, and that speculation includes making predictions about the up-coming election. You could loosen up and have some fun with it, too. Who knows? It might be YOUR guess that turns out to be right!
You must be TERRIBLY old to have lost so much of your sense of humor. Must be at LEAST 75…
@Redteam:
And once again you dodge the question with the standard type of strawman distractions employed by the left.
That wasn’t the issued being raised, so once again you need to actually provide an adult response that doesn’t play those games.
Are you denying all the free media being provided to Trump?
@George Wells: As you know I don’t waste time reading or responding to RT anymore. Humorless old man who seems to have actually gotten worse since he became a Trumpist.
Use to be he’d pick a baseball or football game for fun–no more. He’d rather bash folks and like Trump he’s become a real bore. For sure he’ll still be around after Trump leaves Cleveland in defeat. Maybe then he’ll get his sense of humor back..
@George Wells:
Well, I think maybe you have fun, Wheeler tries to be funny but he lost his humorous side when he started dating the Animal mercy guy and parading with him in his assless chaps under the rainbow flag. He does that by choice, he wasn’t born that way. For some reason he thinks it’s funny to insist that I’m a Trumpist even though I’ve never claimed to be. So, I’ll say he’s the one blowing a horn. Trump’s or not, I don’t know. Then he also thinks he’s cute with his; I’m not responding to RT, he’s lost his sense of humor. Well, I’m sure his sense of humor left him years ago, but we’ll see if he responds to this with a laugh.
Well, guess I’m a spring chicken if that’s a measure of humor retained. I still have a full load of humor left. Let’s all enjoy ourselves when Old Richie responds with a laugh.
As far as the election, I’ve speculated that it’s not going to be a good deal for the US in any way if Hillary or Sanders win. From a business point of view, Trump would be the best. Cruz’s wife is supporting the US, Mexico and Canada forming one country, I don’t know if Cruz supports her in that project or not.
Here’s waiting for Richie’s non response.
@Melba Boffin:
Is English a foreign language to you?
I deny that Trump pays any more for his media coverage than any of the other candidates. I also deny that he pays any less for that coverage. If you have evidence that he is getting media coverage free that others are paying for, I’d like to know.
You seem to be insisting that Trump is getting something free that others are paying for, but that’s not exactly what you’re saying. If you could write a coherent English grammar sentence with your actual position, it might clear things up.
What does this mean:
and if I try to interpret this sentence:
It seems to be asking if I (personally) am denying all the free media (I’m not denying any free media to anyone) that is being provided to Trump. If that is not what the sentence is asking, could you translate it into English.
@Redteam:
Then why this comment:
I do believe you have turned into Greggie Goebbles’ alter ego.
@retire05:
LOL
Just because he’s the only one I consider has the ability to get the country headed in the right direction economically has nothing to do with whether I am lending him any support toward getting elected.
I see that as no different than if I said that Bubba Watson was the only one with a particular ability to win the Masters. Doesn’t mean I support Bubba, I just acknowledge his abilities. Note: Bubba finished 39th in the Masters.
I think I’ve finally found out how to shut Richie up.
@Redteam:
Yes, I think that you DO have some fun with this. Sometimes your humor can be distressing, such as your propensity for returning to favorite themes as if they have brought the house down every time you have used them. Like the “Rich-in-a-gay-parade-wearing-ass-less-chaps” line that was funny only once. Don’t “jump the shark” so often – it’s a sign that you’ve run out of material.
You could be right that trump would be “best for business,” but I’d argue that that isn’t enough to recommend to the presidency of the most powerful nation on Earth a man who the vast majority of people – American and otherwise – find horrifying. He may have managed to enrich HIMSELF, but he’s mismanaged his politicalcampaign, alienated large demographics of our citizenry, and repeatedly displayed a profound ignorance of global issues. I wouldn’t trust him to sell me a used car.
I find it amusing that your VERY old buddy Retire05 seems to have abandoned you, believing you to have “turned into Greggie Goebbles’ alter ego.” I think that the turning point for her was when you started to agree with me on ANYTHING, failing to comprehend the impossibility of anyone ever being 100% wrong.
@retire05: Re RT If he waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck—He’s a Trumpeteer plain and simple.
George—I have marched in support of gay rights—Over the years I’ve done the same for women’s rights and civil rights–
The ARC of the MORAL UNIVERSE is long but it bends towards JUSTICE–MLK JR.
Semper Fi
@George Wells: ”
only partially, mainly because I don’t think Cruz is eligible to be president. He’s not a ‘natural born American” No court will rule on it though, too hot of an issue. If we have a liberal court and he were to get elected, they would rule, but that’s not the case. As you know, Cruz was born a triple citizen, ‘maybe’. His mother is American, his father Cuban and he was born in Canada, so he is a citizen of all 3 countries. You can hardly be natural born of only one. It has not been proven that his birth was ever registered in the US.
Ok, George, I will lay my line about Richie and his activities aside, until he shows his butt again. I agree that it was getting a little thin.
I think a lot of people are going to be surprised how popular Trump turns out to be when the voting begins. By then Hillary will be wearing her orange suit and Bernie’s agenda will be known and the choices of everything free for everyone will be a little hard to understand. (yes, I know Hillary will never wear orange, she’s too corrupt)
@Rich Wheeler:
RW are you enjoying blowing your Trump-it?
Chuckle.
You do realize when you give someone a right, you limit someone else’s right, don’t you? Oh, excuse me, you probably wouldn’t understand that. Never mind.
@Redteam:
I don’t believe that Trump is the only candidate on the GOP side that has the ability to reverse the disaster that has been the Obama administration. Hell, a first year economics major could do that. So, if you are putting all your eggs in the one (economic) basket, you really should reevaluate the support you have been lauding on lo! these many pages for Trump.
Trump claims he hires only the best of the best yet he can’t seem to get his ground game off the ground. He puts his daughter in charge of his GOTV but we learn that she can’t even vote Republican in the upcoming New York primaries. His incompetence in many areas are blatantly obvious to anyone who wants to open their eyes.
Trumps supporters remind me of the Paulbots who used threats and coercion to intimidate supporters of other candidates. Perhaps Trump should write another book called The Art of The
TemperTrumper Tantrum.@retire05:
unfortunately none of those are running. Trump is the closest thing to that we have in the race.
Any support for Trump is only the result of no better alternative.
I notice your entire comment was spent shooting at Trump and no effort put into telling about the attributes you want to assign to some other candidate.
As far as I know, we have a successful businessman running against 3 career politicians who have never accomplished anything other than living off the public dole and who’s sole intent seems to be to remain on that dole.
“Trumps supporters remind me of the Paulbots” I can’t judge that, I don’t personally know any Paulbots. Whatever that is.
@Redteam #140:
You DO realize that when you free a slave, you take away the slave-owner’s right to own him, don’t you?
You DO realize that when you give women the right to vote, you take away some of the political power of males, don’t you?
You DO realize that when you allow gays to marry each other, you take away heterosexuals’ right to marry each other, don’t you?
OOPS!
I guess that when you let gays marry, you’re just giving them a right that you already had, but selfishly wanted to keep to yourself.
You DO realize that the concept of “equal rights” works best when YOU get to decide WHICH people deserve them, and WHICH people DON’T deserve them… don’t you?.
There. That’s better.
Thanks for the good idea, Redteam!
@George Wells:
I can’t verify this one. I do not know any slaves that have been freed nor any slaveholder that has had his rights limited. Do you?
Who is it that ‘gives’ a woman the right to vote? Is someone controlling it? I do not know any woman that has been given the right to vote, all of them I know were born with that right. If you know a woman that now has the right to vote that did not formerly have that right, how did it change her life? Is she doing something differently now?
Not sure we’re ever going to know the answer to that question. Since only a man and a woman can marry, we’re not going to find out. If you’re talking about two people living in an arrangement, that has been going on since time began, don’t know of anything different going on there.
You do realize that the reverse is also true. As I pointed out, you said: “You DO realize that when you free a slave” that I have never owned a slave, so I can’t free one. And since no one in the US has ever been a slave, in the US, none (alive) have ever been freed.
And as I pointed out: you said: “You DO realize that when you give women the right to vote, ” that no woman in the US can be given that right because they already all have it. And who ‘owns’ the right that enables them to be able to ‘give’ it to someone?
I would give women the right (if it were mine to give)to have a public restroom that perverts can be kept out of, but apparently many do not think women are entitled to any special right to not have to use a restroom without perverts present. No, don’t deny any rights to perverts. Yet someone still denies felons the right to vote.
George, can you tell me if you’ve ever voted to give any right to any person? I have never had that option on any ballot that I’ve ever voted on. So your canard of ‘YOU get to decide WHICH people’ is just that as I have never encountered that particular opportunity. Have you?
@Redteam #144:
You are twisting yourself into a pretzel, squirming to find logic in your complaint that “giving some people rights take away other people’s rights” but then refusing to acknowledge that anyone is being “given” rights. That’s nonsense.
Actions of the courts give back to people rights that legislatures take away from them. I know that you want to argue that no right to same-sex marriage “exists,” but I contend that from YOUR perspective, no right to heterosexual marriage “exists” either. Marriage isn’t mentioned in the Constitution, and it isn’t mentioned in the Ten Commandments, the ONLY scrap of FICTION (do we actually HAVE those stone tablets?) that was CLAIMED to have been written by the hand of GOD. Every other so-called “right,” while CLAIMED to be “inalienable” or “God-given” or “fundamental” or “natural,” is nothing more than a legal promise not to persecute, granted BY PEOPLE who live more or less together. These PROMISES are WRITTEN into laws and constitutions and court decisions so that people can point to a WRITTEN promise of a right and CLAIM that it applies to them.
Same-sex marriage HAS been written into the LAW in some states, HAS been affirmed by the courts in battles against states who elected to OPPOSE the “right,” and HAS been accepted by the majority of Americans as real and legitimate. The arguments that same-sex marriage does NOT exist, is NOT a right or conflicts with some unwritten “natural” laws or God-given commands have not prevailed in the courts and therefore have no legal significance. In other words, you are wasting your breath making an insignificant argument.
And by the way, you cannot make a rational argument that because no former slaves still live, slaves weren’t ever given rights that they once did not have. Slavery did not simply die out. The slaves were FREED. They were GIVEN rights WHEN THEY WERE FREED. Geez, Red, don’t hurt yourself stretching so.
Haven’t you ever voted in a referendum? Didn’t YOUR state ask voters to say whether or not they wanted gay people to be given the right to marry? I think that we have ALL been called to answer which rights shall be given or denied one group or another at some point. You just forgot.
@George Wells: You got trolled 2 entire posts that do not mention why the Candidate with no platform and no clue how to obtain delegates should just go back to his mansion with his pretty wife and get back to what he does best screwing other people and getting tax breaks to get richer.
@kitt #146:
“You got trolled”
Sorry, Kitt. I don’t understand the term.
@George Wells: What pulled you soooo off topic?
@George Wells: George, you make some good points that I will respond to, but have to go to a baseball game in a few minutes and I’ll give it some thought. One point now,
So someone had this right locked up somewhere, holding it hostage and then was required to ‘give’ it to someone? Was the person that ‘owned’ this right paid for that right when it was taken from them and given to someone else? Maybe there’s a problem with the statement “someone was ‘given’ a right” . If I don’t own a ‘right’ I can’t give it away or sell it? In the case of slaves, did the people that sold the slaves rights then own those rights? Shouldn’t they have been the ones to return them?
@kitt:
Redteam.
He loves to rattle my cage by denying same-sex marriage “exists”, and I won’t let his get away with his nonsense.
Besides, Trump is pretty much finished. Even if he DOES get the nomination, he can’t win the election, and if he DOESN’T get the nom., he’ll screw it for who DOES. Pretty much open and shut, don’t you think?