Damn it, will someone please ask the right questions???? UPDATED

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Retired Gen. David Petraeus is reportedly facing a possible retroactive demotion:

US Secretary of Defense Ash Carter is reportedly mulling personally demoting retired four-star general David Petraeus for disclosing classified data. The former US commander in Iraq and CIA Director would then be liable to return hundreds of thousands of dollars of his pension. The ongoing deliberations were confirmed to The Daily Beast by three senior Pentagon officials.

Petraeus, once considered a war hero for the successful US troop surge in Iraq in 2007 and 2008, and even a potential Republican presidential candidate, is currently on a two-year probation, and has paid a fine of $100,000 for unauthorized handling of classified information. Last year, he pleaded guilty to supplying eight notebooks chock-full of state secrets to Paula Broadwell, his biographer, with whom he had an affair.

Petraeus’ crime was sharing classified information with his biographer Paula Broadwell. The FBI found classified material on her computer.

No one has suggested that the classified information on Broadwell’s computer was top secret or of a higher level, such as a Special Access Program.

8-100 Policy

It is the policy of the Department of Defense to use the security classification categories and the applicable sections of E.O. 12958 and its implementing ISOO Directives to limit access to classified information on a “need-to-know” basis only to those personnel who have been determined to meet requisite personnel security requirements. Further, it is DoD policy to rigorously apply the need-to-know principle in the normal course of controlling collateral classified information so that Special Access Program (SAP) controls will be used only when exceptional security measures are required based on threat and/or vulnerability (e.g. sensitivity or value of the information) associated with the SAP. Need-to-know principles shall also be applied within SAPs. In this context, SAPs may be created or continued only on a specific finding that:

a. The vulnerability of, or threat to, the specific information to be protected is exceptional;
b. Normal criteria for determining access to the assigned level of classification are not sufficient to protect the information from unauthorized disclosure;
c. Careful consideration is given to: assessing the vulnerability, the sensitivity of the information to be protected, and the adequacy of needed safeguarding requirements; and/or
d. The establishment of the SAP is required by statute.

You know, like were on Hillary’s server.

In this, Hillary’s actions mimic both Petraeus and Broadwell. Hillary, like Broadwell, stored classified information on her computer. Not just classified, but above Top Secret. Broadwell lost a promotion and was stripped of her security clearance. Petraeus received two years’ probation, paid a $100,000 fine. And his career is toast.

Curiously, Broadwell remains under investigation.

In response to Observer questions about the Post account, U.S. Attorney Jill Westmoreland Rose described the Pentagon probe differently. She said Army officials involved in the case say no decision has been made about military punishment for Petraeus and Broadwell, and that the Army’s investigation of Broadwell, an Army reservist, continues.

I cannot help but wonder if a decision on Broadwell is being delayed because of the discovery of classified information on Hillary Clinton’s non-secure server. Both committed the same acts. Both the former Deputy Director of the CIA and a former Secretary of Defense agree that it’s highly likely Clinton’s server was compromised. Interestingly, a Huma Abedin email revealed that Clinton refused to use a secure government Blackberry because what passed through it would be subject to FOIA requests.

Clinton has once again resorted to her asinine defense:

“As the State Department has confirmed, I never sent or received any material marked classified, and that hasn’t changed in all of these months,” she maintained. “This, seems to me, to be, you know, another effort to inject this into the campaign. It’s another leak.”

Clinton has been consistently disingenuous about her email scandal. What I am finding exasperating is the absolute failure to ask the right question. Clinton keeps repeating:

“I’m just going to leave it up to the professionals at the Justice Department, because nothing that this says changes the fact that I never sent or received material marked classified.”

The Clinton’s are masters of the parse. The information on her server IS and WAS classified. The proper questions?

1. How did this material get onto her server?

As we’ve noted before, there is no direct line from either the DoD or State to Hillary’s server, or anywhere else outside of the government.

2. Someone had to take the classified information from the State intranet, copy it and then deliver it to Clinton’s server. Who?

Let’s not forget that Clinton sent a cable to State employees that said:

“avoid conducting official department business from your personal e-mail accounts.”

We know that Clinton has a history of instructing aides to alter classified documents and strip security headings. All of this leads me to wonder if she didn’t intentionally make the information vulnerable in return for speaking fees and contributions to the Clinton Foundation.

UPDATE: At Least One Hillary Email Contained Info From Clandestine Operations

According to Fox’s Catherine Herridge, two sources familiar with the investigation of Clinton’s private server say that at least one email contained what’s known as “HCS-O” information. That is an intelligence agency code for “HUMINT Control System Operations,” which refers to on-the-ground spy operations.

“The HSC-O compartment (Operations) is used to protect exceptionally fragile and unique IC (intelligence community) clandestine HUMINT operations and methods that are not intended for dissemination outside of the originating agency,” reads a memo released by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence in December 2013.

 

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Retired Gen. David Petraeus is reportedly facing a possible retroactive demotion under a threat of blackmail if he talks right now.
Fixed that for you.

Broadwell lost a promotion and was stripped of her security clearance. ….
Curiously, Broadwell remains under investigation. threat of blackmail if she talks right now.
Fixed that, too.

Ironic that Broadwell had security clearance (at the time) and the stuff on her computer were NOT at the Top Secret point (which she was probably able to see under her clearance) but only at a lower level of classification, which she surely could see with her clearance.
What might have been bad was if she had included classified information in a book, her biography about the General.
But that never happened.

To believe Clinton:

1. Thousands of classified, top secret, and SAP emails are routinely sent with no security markings.

2. She was able to conduct State Department business from a personal email account and server without ever having sent or received emails marked as classified, top secret, or SAP at the time – for FOUR years.

3. No emails she sent or received we classified until after she left office.

4. The U.S. Secretary of State never sends or receives classified materials via email.

Who vetted the security clearance of the people that decided which emails were to be turned over to state and which were private and could be deleted?

Sorry, I can not believe that a U.S. Secretary of State does not routinely communicate classified information via email – not a credible explanation.

Any chance of the General and Broadwell being subjected to death by stoning as the Bible says must be done?

Not to worry.
The chief adulterer will fix it.
Just like he fixed everything else.
Arkancide to the rescue.
Petraeus and Broadwell had best remember the lesson of Vice Foster.
Dead men (and women) tell no tales!
Linda Tripp had best watch her 6 as well!

At the crux of the matter is this fact: Hillary wanted a secret, private server on which to conduct official State Department business so she could easily dispose of hazards to her career. That’s nasty enough. To achieve this, she jeopardized national security. That is devastating.

The crime committed by Petraeus and Broadwell was not leaking information or possessing information they should not have; it was not following the rules for securing the information. At the bare minimum, this is exactly what Hillary has done, beyond any shadow of a doubt, irrefutably and absolutely confirmed. Impossible to honestly argue otherwise (though we will see them).

And she wants to be President of the United States. No one has EVER shown themselves to be less worthy of being President well before even campaigning for the office. Let that soak in for a moment.

@John:
Golly John, lucky this happened before Sharia law takes hold under Obama, eh?

Get a life, losers;

Fact-checking Benghazi: The rhetoric hasn’t matched up with reality:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2014/may/16/fact-checking-benghazi-our-most-recent-round-/

Officials: New Top Secret Clinton Emails ‘Innocuous’

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officials-new-top-secret-clinton-emails-innocuous-n500586

Translation:
in·noc·u·ous
iˈnäkyo͞oəs/
adjective
adjective: adjective
adjective: innocuous
1. not harmful or offensive

They figure they’ve got to take down Clinton any way possible, because it’s the only way the bozo they’re going to run for president stands a chance.

Unfortunately, in a pinch, the Democratic Party has at least two fully qualified, well-liked alternates, while all the GOP has got instead of Trump is another bozo. Their credible conservative candidates have already been marginalized by the far right.

I honestly thought Bush would be the nominee. Not that I like his views. He just struck me as being real.

The trolls will n ever get it that Clinton is a crook and has violated so many regulations and placed so many intel sources in jeopardy that even the most uninformed voters and the liberal media are running away. The arrogance of the left is unbelievable. Then their Kool-Aid drinking supporters blame everything on the right wingers. (No liberal can ever fess up. It would take morals and integrity for that!).

@Greg: Greggie Greggie Greggie, try to stay on topic if at all possible. This is about Hilldabeast not Republicans!! If you consider Hilldabeast and Bernie as the best demoncrats have to offer then your the one who needs REAL help!!

@Reem: Breaking the law and disclosure of human assets is the issue like it or not!!

@Reem: Too bad (for Hillary, anyway) but the Gov’t has no classification of ”INNOCUOUS.”
The gov’t has other designations.

Two government agencies flagged emails on Clinton’s server as containing classified information including some on “special access programs,” which are a subset of the highest “Top Secret” level of classification, but are under subject to more stringent control rules than even other Top Secret information.”

CNN
OOPS.

@Greg:

Unfortunately, in a pinch, the Democratic Party has at least two fully qualified, well-liked alternates,

Oooo… yeah, that’s right. That’s something to consider. If Hillary gets her just deserts and the Democrats are saddled with Bernie, they could always field the formidable Warren or Bid….BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA…. Sorry, I just couldn’t finish it with a straight face.

I believe that anyone aiding abiding the enemy is an enemy. She is currently running for president of the US. How long will the Kool-Aid drinkers support her. There are many people in Leavenworth for less.

@Randy. #10:

The trolls will n ever get it that Clinton is a crook and has violated so many regulations and placed so many intel sources in jeopardy that even the most uninformed voters and the liberal media are running away.

No evidence has been found to prove any such claims, despite the fact that elected republican officials have spent untold millions of taxpayer dollars and wasted who knows how many hours of official time attempting to find proof of a single accusation. This has gone on for years.

You claim the criminal acts are many and the evidence of wrongdoing is obvious. So, just how stupid and/or incompetent must the people you have elected be, to have come up with absolutely nothing?

@Greg:
You are nothing if not predictable. No matter what is found or will be found it’s always nothing. Not a chance of any wrong doing. Clearly you have blinders on.

The smoking gun?

Oh, OFFICIALS say they don’t matter!

Then you hit the link, and see: “The emails in question are not the same two emails from Clinton’s server that have long been reported as containing information deemed Top Secret.”

See, these emails don’t matter, because they’re not the ones that DO matter.

LOL You guys are pathetic.

@Greg:

No evidence has been found to prove any such claims, despite the fact that elected republican officials have spent untold millions of taxpayer dollars and wasted who knows how many hours of official time attempting to find proof of a single accusation. This has gone on for years.

Well, actually there is, Greg. Ample evidence.

First, it was an administration rule NOT to use private email for government business. Then, there is the long-standing rules about the unauthorized and improper storage of classified information. Note here that security and intelligence personnel have stated that it is almost a certainty that Hillary’s secret, private, unsecured server was hacked.

We now know she ordered aides to remove the classification markings from information to make it easier to break the law (that pretty much shreds the oft-cited excuse, “they weren’t MARKED classified). Once all that has been stated, we are then left with perjury.

Why has the investigation taken so long? Well, Hillary and the State Department are wholly to blame. Just yesterday, the State Department said that because of the government shut down for one day due to the blizzard (that damned global warming again) the next release of emails is delayed, not one day…. but one MONTH. As I said long ago, if Hillary was completely innocent and simply wanted her good name cleared (pause to deal with the little bit of vomit that came up in my mouth), she would have released everything she had and demanded rapid resolution, not ERASED everything she had, repeatedly lied about what she did, and demanding the investigations and hearings be stopped.

I’m a person who is working for your business, which uses company email for all business transactions.

One day, you learn I’ve NOT been using your company’s email server for company business, but my own, which is in my home. You ask to see all the emails, and I say, “Sure, here they, are. Oh, and I erased thousands of emails, but don’t worry, they only pertain to my personal stuff.”

You’d have no problem with any of this, right?

@Greg: Ah yes, idiot Greg. Accusation is proof if a Republican is the target, there is no amount of hard evidence that cannot be dismissed as mere hearsay if a Clinton is the target. What color is the sky in the ridiculous universe you inhabit?

@Greg: Greggie Greggie Greggie, you have spent a life time on this site accusing Bush of lying about intel prior to going to Iraq and yet he has never been charged of anything. You never have proven your accusation on that one. Obola lied to America about his healthcare plan and admitted it and you can’t even acknowledge this FACT!! You supported Slimy Harry’s accusation of Romney cheating on his 2010 taxes with NO proof. If Hilldabeast would have been a Republican with the same disgusting and illegal activity you and the MSM would be screaming about it as usual. Greggie you are slime and have less than ZERO credibility. You need to head back on to your mummy’s basement!!

@Mully, #17:

If hard evidence had been found, we would be watching the coverage of trials on the news, rather than a politically motivated three-ring media circus involving endless accusations and endless investigations that keep coming up empty. All on the taxpayers’ dime, I might add.

The GOP has become worse than useless. It has become a drag on effective governance, an impediment in the war on ISIS, a tool of the super-wealthy, an enemy of the working and middle class, and a cheerleader for economic failure. I deplore their lies and their negativity, not to mention their rudeness and hypocrisy.

Fix your damn party. It used to have real principles and serve a real purpose. It reached its zenith with Reagan and has steadily gone downhill ever since. It no longer serves as a counterbalance to Democratic views; it has become their reflexive antithesis, which translates to extremism. And look up the word “trumpery.”

@Bill: in addition, I believe she was using her foundation to launder money from deals with foreign nations. Remember when bill was president he sold secret deocuments to the Chinese.

@Reem: BS. she had highly classified SCI compartmented information on this unsecure server. Additionally she arbitrarily changed the classification of email documents. All of these are federal felonies. Obviously you have never served in the military or held a government job. Any other federal employee, either permanent or temporary ( hillary was a temporary employee) would have been arrested and tried for TREASON. if you support someone like this perhaps you need to re evaluate your values. Remember the information that was hacked by China, Russia, and Iran ( and God know what other country) affects. EVERY ONE, including you. If you don’t care about the security of our nation, I do.

There was nothing illegal about Hillary Clinton’s private server, and no one has yet cited evidence proving that there was even a single instance where Hillary Clinton knowingly mishandled classified information.

You’ve simply decided to believe what you want to believe, whether there’s evidence of not. Don’t expect people who don’t share the right’s delusions, biases, and transparent political motives to automatically follow suit.

Five myths about classified information

@Greg:
You assume too much. Very doubtful the Obama admin will file any charges no matter what. It is just the political nature of this admin. Just like the IRS is still destroying hard drives when they aren’t supposed to. If the justice department doesn’t do its job evidence does not matter. You seem to miss that altogether.

Recall the Valerie Plame mess? For a year the media led daily with that boondoggle. Yet on about day 1 Patrick Fitzgerald knew who the leaker was, but you’d never know it by media coverage. In the end Scooter Libby was the scapegoat and leaked NOTHING.

The onion on this HRC mess is still being peeled.

@Greg:

Fix your damn party. It used to have real principles and serve a real purpose.

Says he that emphatically supports the most dishonest, corrupt, lying individual EVER to run for President. Yeah, we will be holding your recommendations in very high regard.

We have already seen how Hillary Clinton has used an entertainment star for endorsement, and these People do not know anything regarding Economics, except perhaps for their own Bank Accounts.

This is because Hillary Clinton has to rely on Style rather than Substance, because she has no Economic Policies that are beneficial for America, and even if this Hardened and Compulsive Liar did, then who could believe that she intends to implement the supposedly beneficial Economic Policies.

Hillary Clinton is using Unethical campaign tactics, and these include using Blackmail on American Voters by Suggesting that anyone who does Not want a Corrupt, Incompetent, and Unethical Person to be the President of America, is either against women or is a racist.

We Know that the Election of Barack Obama was supposed to have an America where the Race Card was no longer used, because it is both Divisive and Deceptive, but the Unprincipled Hillary Clinton does use the Race Card to try to further her Own Interests, at the Expense of the Interests of America.

There are African Americans who Vote for the Democrats, and there are African Americans for Vote for the Republicans, and so which Political Party is best for African Americans is a matter for African Americans to Vote for on Election Day

However, for one Democrat like Hillary Clinton to say that she is better for African Americans than the another Democrat like Senator Sanders is Unethical and it is a Very Low grade of Politics, which some Democrat Voters do Not appreciate, and this is why they will Not vote for Hillary Clinton in the Primaries.

There are Americans who think that Policies should Not mention Race, and if there is a Policy to give Employment to Unemployed People, then it should apply to All Races, and Race should Not be mentioned.

This is why there are Democrat Voters who want Democrat Candidates to state their Policies, and then to leave it to Voters of any race to decide who to Vote for at the Election.

Hillary Clinton is saying that she is better for African Americans than what Senator Sanders is, and Hillary Clinton is saying that if Americans do not vote for her, then they are racists.

There would be African Americans who would believe that Hillary Clinton is better for African Americans than what Senator Sanders is, and this Could either be Correct, or it Could be because they believe too much of what they hear, and it Could be that some Racist Americans of several Races, who are Better Acquainted with some of the types of Election ‘Promises’, and who Know that Hillary Clinton is a Compulsive Liar who may be Lying on this also, and they would think that if they give their Vote to Hillary Clinton, then she will do nothing substantial for African Americans.

There are Americans who think that if Hillary Clinton becomes President, then the Only way to have African America Voters Vote for her again, is to give nothing substantial to the African Americans, and this will ensure that those Racist Americans will Vote to reelect Hillary Clinton as President in 2020.

If this is Hillary Clinton’s intentions, then How Cunning it is to Deceptively gain the Votes of African Americans, and to gain the Votes of the Racist Non African Americans, and the Brazen Hillary Clinton has the Cunning and the Lack of Principles for something like this, and this is why there are Democrat Voters who do Not agree with this Very Low type of Politics, and they want Anyone But Clinton to receive the nomination from the Democrats for Presidential Candidate, and they want All Democrats to have the same Policies for African Americans, and for All Democrats to say that they have the same Policies for African Americans, and that no Democrat is better than another Democrat in this regard.

This is again another one of Clinton’s Many Deceptions, and we will see if American Voters will allow themselves to be influenced by this Corrupt Unprincipled Manipulator.

It was Hillary Clinton during her Puppet Bill Secret Harem Clinton Administration that Deregulated the Banking System to favor her Donors, and this created a large Recession in America, and for which Hillary Clinton has been increasing Federal Government Debt during her Puppet Obama Administration.

Hillary Clinton is blaming Senator Sanders for this, because her other Unprincipled campaign tactic is that if she throws enough mud at those who would be Much Better than her as President of America, then Hillary Clinton hopes that some of that mud will stick, and that Voters will be Deceived to vote for her, rather than for an Honest, Principled, and Competent Candidate.

There could be some People who think that Leaders of these Democrats who want Anyone But Clinton, might write to the Delegates and Superdelegates of the Democrats, and to All State and Federal Democrat Politicians informing them of their Concern for America, and that they would Vote Republican if the Democrats nominate Hillary Clinton as Presidential Candidate.

These Democrat Voters, who are Americans first, Know that if Hillary Clinton becomes President, then she will be reelected in 2020, and so they would rather have a Republican President for 4 years and try again with an Principled Candidate, because they do not see anything American in Hillary Clinton, because Hillary Clinton is 0 % American, and 100 % Clinton, and they think that America Cannot afford such a Person for President.

This should Not be seen as blackmail, but it is the Free Exercise of the Consciences of the Anyone But Clinton Voters, and which is based on their Knowledge of how Hillary Clinton will Harm America’s Image and Interests in America and in the World.

There are People including some Journalists who will endorse Hillary Clinton, because they have either already Visited Bill Clinton’s Secret Harem on one or more occasions, or because they will Corruptly help Hillary Clinton become the Presidential Candidate for the Democrats.

It is Interesting how Barack Obama’s earnings as a Politician amount to that of a Senator’s salary of 175,000 Dollars a year for 4 years, and on the President’s salary of 400,000 Dollars a year for 7 years, and which is a little over 3 million Dollars before Tax and Expenses, but Somehow, Hillary Clinton’s Puppet Barack Obama, was able to buy a 35 Million Dollar Mansion in Hawaii at http://hillbuzz.org/why-arent-the-occupy-wall-street-kids-angry-about-the-obamas-getting-a-35-million-beachfront-mansion-in-hawaii-24333 .

There is much Proof that Hillary Clinton is a Schemer, a Hardened and Compulsive Liar, a Professional Excuse Maker, a Slanderer, an Unprincipled Blackmailing Manipulator, and a Criminal, and the Proof is the Numerous Clinton Scandals

Here they are: Hillary’s 22 biggest scandals ever

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Hillary Clinton is a female, but she is not a woman as Many People would define the word woman, because the Evidence Proves what Hillary Clinton is, and this is why there are Democrat Voters who think that it is Proper for Americans Voters to Vote for Anyone But Clinton, because Americans should Respect America.”

@Greg: really? What school did you go to? She signs a documents that states how she is to handle all types of documentation be it hard copy or email. I know for a fact because I have signed the same document. She committed a felony. I am wasting my breath because to you she could kill a member of your family and you would give some lame ass excuse why your family member deserved it

@Randy: Lol, and Cheney outing Valerie Plame wasn’t impeachable? Get real.

@Anonymous: Whoa, the tin foil hat is on tight, tonight.

@Reem:

Lol, and Cheney outing Valerie Plame wasn’t impeachable? Get real.

You just kinda only believe things you want to believe, don’t you?

@Reem: Was it?? I don’t recall him being impeached!! Did I miss something?? I do recall Slick being impeached!!

@Greg: Greggie, the GOP controls the legislature because the Demoncrats got booted!! Talk about the need to fix something moron!!

@Greg: If there is classified material on her private server then she has lied under oath for starters Greggie!! The reason it takes so long is because those in charge of our legal system are owned by Obola and the Demoncrats!! America should NOT have to wait as long as it has to get the emails on her server and she should NOT have erased anything from it before she turns them over!! Greggie your the moron accusing people with far lest fact that Hilldabeast!! See George Bush and Romney fabrications for starters Greggie!!

@Enchanted, #31:

Allow me to point out what is missing from your argument:

Really? What school did you go to? She signs a documents that states how she is to handle all types of documentation be it hard copy or email. I know for a fact because I have signed the same document. (Cite the specific laws she has broken and present the specific evidence proving that she has done so here.) She committed a felony.

Where I went to school, we were taught the fundamentals of logical argument. A is true because I say that A is true, and because other people are saying it too” was not one of them.

Another school I attended was at Fort Gordon, Georgia. I’m not entirely unfamiliar with the protocol governing the handling of classified material and equipment, though my experience dates from an era before anyone had heard of the internet.

@Mully, #28:

You assume too much. Very doubtful the Obama admin will file any charges no matter what.

The ability to file charges isn’t restricted to the Obama administration. Charges could be filed by any qualified attorney by submitting a petition to any District Federal Court. For the case to be found merit a court’s attention, however, there would have to be specific facts demonstrating that it does.

If Clinton’s enemies in Congress had any solid evidence supporting claims of criminal acts or intentional wrongdoing, they could act on them. They’ve investigated the hell out of Clinton. They’ve also got far more specific information regarding FBI and intelligence community investigations than has ever been made public.

They don’t file, because taking it to court would demonstrate that they’ve got absolutely nothing in fairly short order. All of the facts would be laid out and closely examined. That they have nothing would be clearly and publicly established ahead of the election.

Resolution is not what they want. They want the ongoing appearance of scandal. They think that can alter the outcome of the election.

So much leftist delusion on this thread, and so little time. But just a couple.things:

1. Richard Armitage outed Plame, as has been well documented.

2. Petreus lost his job with CIA, and is looking at the possibility of being demoted for improper handling of classified documents in manner far less egregious than Hillary’s outrageous violations with her private, unsecured server which the FBI is currently investigating.

The idea that Hillary has done nothing wrong/illegal because she hasn’t yet been indicted is laughable wishful thinking of the most partisian hackery. She is defined by utter dishonesty, and will never be elected.

@Pete: Pete says it all, succinctly. The idea that Hillary is an innocent flower being victimized by the eeeevil right is the only lie the left has left. I suspect she will be given a clean bill of health by the A.G. and become the nominee, and probably our next president, only because she is a woman and men (who created pretty much everything good the liberals love about this country) are evil, because the left only thinks in groups–women, non-white men, children good, white men bad, where do I vote “D” to show I’m pure?

The key word in every dem liar’s defense of the incompetent ass Hillary:

“knowingly”

As long as there are flunkies to blame, so the innocent housewife who wants to control the economy and the nukes can clutch her pearls and say, “Oh, dear, I don’t know how such things work, I only did as my underlings told me,” can pin the blame on SOMEone, they will support this tired zero.

“Plausible deniability,” the Nixonian Clintons’ motto.

Every military and civilian employee with a security clearance signs a document that requires them to keep all sensitive information secure. There are many laws regarding that. Keeping classified (TS SCI information for example) in an unsecure means is a violation of that oath. The penalty can be as high as execution if the act is ultimately considered treason. Keeping classified information on an unsecure computer/server is a major violation..

@JSW, #42:

That might be because the mishandling of classified information is a criminal act only when it has been done “knowingly and willfully.” Refer to 18 U.S. Code § 798 – Disclosure of classified information . It shouldn’t be hard to find the relevant part of the law. It’s clearly stated in the very first line.

Without deliberate intention, there has been no criminal act.

@Randy, #43:

Keeping classified information on an unsecure computer/server is a major violation.

Refer to the preceding comment. For a criminal violation to exist, a person would have to know that the information was classified.

You trolls are so ignorant. The briefings that are required at least annually provide the persons with the security clearance to know and determine what is and should be classified. They are responsible even if the documents are not labeled with the specific classification. I was briefed when I had a TS SCI clearance that all correspondence from the State Department was classified. Ignorance is not an excuse when there is a failure to secure classified information. I am not sure about stupidity. That may be an excuse. I guess Clinton’s supporters believe that a stupid president is ok with them!

It is Interesting that the Mayor of New York Michael Bloomberg said that if Senator Sanders received the Democratic Party’s nomination for Presidential Candidate, then he would become an Independent Presidential Candidate.

There are People saying that Bloomberg is a Clinton Ally, because both of them are Establishment Politicians, and the purpose is to give the Presidency to the Republican Candidate.

The Mayor of New York was once a Democrat, and then he was a Republican, and he is now an Independent, and he is certainly an Establishment Politician, and so he is Not really an Independent, because he wants to try to Manipulate Democrat Voters to vote for Hillary Clinton.

It is Obvious that Hillary Clinton Schemed this, and Democrat Voters are being Blackmailed by Hillary Clinton to say that if Hillary Clinton does not become the Democrat Presidential Candidate, then Bloomberg and Clinton will Slyly work to have a Republican as President.

There are Democrat Voters, who are for a mixed Economy of Regulated Free Enterprise and Socialism who think that having a Republican President would be Much Better for the cause of Social Democracy, than having Clinton as President, and it needs to be understood that every Country has much Socialism.

An example of Socialism is that Everyone pays their Fair Share of Taxes, and so we can see why some Capitalists do not like Socialism.

I define the term Regulated Free Enterprise with Free and Fair Competition, as Proper Business Practice, and it is different to Crony Capitalism.

They would think that the American Socialists should Vote Democrat in the Senate, and Vote Republican in the House of Representatives, and Vote Republican for the President if Senator Sanders does not receive the Democrat nomination for Presidential Candidate.

There are Many Socialist Parties in Europe, and European Countries have had Many Socialist Governments, and we know that it is possible that American Democratic Socialists will be called communists, but that is Slander.

The Senate Voting is only for a third of the Senate every 2 years, and that is why American Democratic Socialists would Vote for the Democrats in the Senate in order to block or amend some of the Republicans’ Legislation.

The entire House of Representative Election is every 2 years, and so Democrats or American Democratic Socialists can much quicker gain a Majority in the House of Representatives, even though these Republicans had a Temporary Overwhelming Majority in the House of Representatives.

There are People who think that American Socialists might consider this approach, which would be that, any of, or any combination of Bloomberg, Clinton, the Republicans should show Americans how Capitalism can create Full Employment, and if it cannot, then Socialism is there for the Economy.

There could be American Social Democrats who think that the Capitalists should be given an opportunity to prove their case for Capitalism, because if the Capitalism fail, then it is Socialism, and if Capitalism succeeds, then the Social Democrats will need a better Economy and a better Budget to introduce the Proper mix of Regulated Free Enterprise and Socialism if they are Elected to Government.

There are People who think that if the Establishment Mayor of New York runs as an Independent in the Presidential Election, then this could help Senator Sanders.

There are Democrat Voters who think that given All of these Circumstances, that Hillary Clinton should Not become the Democrat’s Presidential Candidate, and that they will Rather Vote Democrat for the Senate, and Republican for the House of Representatives, and Republican for the Presidency, and so they think that Donors should Not waste their Money on Hillary Clinton, and Voters should Not waste their Votes on Hillary Clinton at

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The Republicans may want to gain these American Social Democrat Voters in order to have a Republican President and a Republican Majority in the House of Representatives, even though the American Socialist Democrats will Vote for the Democrats in the Senate, and the Republicans can do this by offering at least one Substantial Socialist Economic Policy a few weeks before the next Federal Election.

It is Interesting how Hillary Clinton says voters should choose her experience over the wisdom of Senator Sanders, and we can see how Senator Sanders wisely Voted against a war in Iraq, and Hillary Clinton Voted for the war in Iraq, which has killed thousands of American soldiers, and cost 2 Trillion Dollars.

This is the value of Hillary Clinton’s experience, and there are People who think that Benghazi was an event that was Engineered to increase Obama’s popularity against Mitt Romney a few weeks before the 2012 Elections.

According to some People, that Scheme involved using Bribed Libyans to fake the kidnap of American Citizens, and where Obama would have it look like he rescued them, but things did not go according to plan, because some Terrorists in Libya learned of the incident and they used it for their own purpose.

These People say that Hillary Clinton had Invented All of the Lying Excuses in Advance, because these Lies and Excuses were Invented in case something went wrong, and that incident was used to help to reelect Barack Obama in the 2012 Election.

There is much Proof that Hillary Clinton is a Schemer, a Hardened and Compulsive Liar, a Professional Excuse Maker, a Slanderer, an Unprincipled Blackmailing Manipulator, and a Criminal, and the Proof is the Numerous Clinton Scandals

Here they are: Hillary’s 22 biggest scandals ever

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Hillary Clinton is a female, but she is not a woman as Many People would define the word woman, because the Evidence Proves what Hillary Clinton is, and this is why there are Democrat Voters who think that it is Proper for Americans Voters to Vote for Anyone But Clinton, because Americans should Respect America.

The histrionic “she didn’t KNOWINGLY” commit a crime/violation of mishandling national security documents is ridiculous, unless you believe that Hillary didn’t know that setting up her own private unsecured server to receive State Dept. documents was illegal. So either she is too stupid to ever be allowed to hold public office, or she is a deceiptful liar. This attitude is the same disingenuous claptrap Clinton defenders tried to spew over his lies under oath which resulted in a $900,000 settlement with Paula Jones, his impeachment, and his disbarment for lying under oath. These same false memes of “witchhunt” and “nothing has been PROVEN” kept coming from leftist propagandists right up until Clinton’s DNA was found in the semen stains he left on Lewinski’s dress.

What does it say about the character and judgmental capacity of someone who would ever believe anything uttered from the mouth of a Clinton about anything?

@Greg: Greggie, what evidence did anyone have to accuse Romney on the floor of the Senate of cheating on his 2010 tax return?? What evidence did you or any other moronic libturd have of accusing Bush of lying relevant to the Iraq intel?? He has never been charged but you keep crying the same song with NO proof. Obola lied about his healthcare plan, admitted it Greggie, and you still can’t admit he lied!!

@Greg: You do NOT practice what you spew Greggie!!

@Randy, #45:

Was it too much to follow the posted link to 18 U.S. Code § 798 – Disclosure of classified information, to see what it actually says? I’ll save everyone the trouble. This what it says, verbatim:

(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1) concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2) concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3) concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4) obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

For there to have been a criminal act, the exposure of classified information has to have been deliberate. That’s what “knowingly and willfully” come down to—that you knew full well what you were doing, and did it on purpose.

For example, knowingly and willfully handing notebooks over to your mistress/biographer containing “…classified information regarding the identities of covert intelligence officers, war strategy, intelligence capabilities, diplomatic discussions, quotes from and deliberative discussions with high-level National Security Council meetings…” with the President of the United States would, indeed, be a criminal violation. That’s what General David Petraeus has acknowledged that he was guilty of doing. All considered, he’s being treated with considerable leniency.

You’re never going to figure this out because you don’t want to figure it out.