Why it is a bad idea to accept Muslim refugees (Guest Post)

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Hundreds of thousands of Muslim refugees from the Middle East are pouring into western countries. Foolish western politicians are welcoming them with open arms, assuring us that Islam means peace. They have no inkling about the cultural compatibility of those they accept. President Barack Obama (whom I shall refer to as oBUMa from now on) even compared them to the Pilgrims on the Mayflower.

That is the most stupid thing oBUMa has said and he has said a lot of stupid things in his career. The Pilgrims brought Judeo Christian ethics which built America. These Muslims are bringing a set of ethics and cultural norms that are the causes of the social dysfunction in the Middle East today. They are totally incompatible with western values.

Democrats also have a hard time using the term ‘radical Islam’ to describe recent mass killings in San Bernadino and Paris. Some people like Ali Sina or Geert Wilders do not hesitate to blame Islam itself. So the term ‘radical Islam’ is already a softer term for it implies that the normal form of Islam is peaceful.

I think it is time to examine Islamic texts to see what role it plays in inspiring radical Islamists and the culture of Muslims. This is to see if it is a good idea to allow thousands of Muslim refugees into the country as what oBUMa wants.

Many of the refugees that oBUMa wants to accept are radical Islamists. While most of these radicals may not be violent, their beliefs make them incompatible as citizens of the west. .

What is radical Islam? My definition of radical Islam is the interpretation of Islamic scripture that engenders the following:

1) Hostility towards non-Muslims
2) Inequality between men and women
3) The killing of those Muslims who convert to other faiths
4) Slavery of non-Muslims captured in jihad
5) Waging jihad, or holy war, to spread Islam throughout the world.
6) Sex with young girls – as young as 9.

All these things have to change before the Muslim refugees can be accepted in large numbers. This would require Islam to be reformed. The problem is that all of the above are halal (permitted) in the Koran or hadiths. For those who do not know, the hadith refers to the words and deeds of the Holy Prophet Mohammad.

They were compiled by various scholars, the most important of whom were Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim. While the hadiths were written by men, Muslims believe that the Koran came from God himself and revealed to the Prophet. (In Christian terms, the Koran is equivalent to the Book of Revelations, while the hadiths are equivalent to the rest of the Bible. )

I will give you the references to verses in the Koran and Hadiths related to the above 6 points. This is to help you understand that Muslims who are steeped in their faith are incompatible with western values.

1) Hostility towards non-Muslims

This comes from verses such as this one:

Koran 4:144

“O ye who believe! Take not for friends (awliyaa) unbelievers rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer God an open proof against yourselves?”

According to Dr Tawfik Hamid, a Muslim reformer, many mosques in the Middle East would curse non-Muslims in the Friday prayers.

Koran 3:118

“O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks: They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin: Rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths: What their hearts conceal is far worse. We have made plain to you the Signs, if ye have wisdom. “

You can see from this verse in the Koran that unbelievers are described as people trying to corrupt Muslims and plotting their ruin. It surely will engender hatred in the hearts of Muslims towards unbelievers. No wonder, they curse unbelievers in their prayers, whom they believe are out to ruin them.

2) Inequality of the sexes which allows polygamy and wife-beating

In the west, men and women are considered equal. Wife beating is criminal in most western jurisdictions. But in Muslim cultures, women are usually considered inferior to men and polygamy is allowed. Wife beating is often tolerated.

Koran 4:3 allows a man to have up to four wives:

“And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].”

“Right hand possesses” refers to slave girls.

There is also a hadith where the Prophet Mohammed preached that women are inferior to men, in intelligence and in religion. He said that the majority of people in hell are women! Here is the hadith:

Sahih Bukhari Vol 1, Book 6 Number 301

Once Allah’s Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o ‘Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, “O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of hellfire where you (women).” They asked, “Why is it so, O Allah’s Apostle?” He replied, “You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.” The women asked, “O Allah’s Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?” He said, “Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?” They replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn’t it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?” The women replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her religion.”

Note that Mohammed thought women were deficient in religion because of her monthly periods! Since women are inferior, it follows that bad wives can be beaten. Here is the verse in the Koran that allows wife beating.

Koran 4:34

Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband’s] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear, arrogance – [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.

This is still taken seriously though many imams, even in the west. An Imam in Spain, Mohammed Kamal Mustafa was jailed for 15 months for instructing his flock on how to beat their wives. This is definitely not compatible with western values.

3) The killing of those Muslims who convert to other faiths

Here is one of the hadiths on the death penalty for apostasy ie leaving Islam for another religion:

Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57:

Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to ‘Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn ‘Abbas, who said, “If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah’s Apostle forbade it, saying, ‘Do not punish anybody with Allah’s punishment (fire).’ I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'”

One clever moderate Muslim theologian argued that the sentence can be carried out when the apostate is on his deathbed (when he is sick and old). This is to circumvent the law, but it does not repeal it. He dared not call for its repeal for that would mean he has overridden the Prophet.

4) Slavery of non-Muslims captured in jihad

There are many verses in the Koran, which refers to “right hand possesses” which means slaves. But here is a revealing hadith:

Sahih Muslim Book 008, Hadith Number 3371

“We went out with Allah’s Messenger (May peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi’l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing ‘azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah’s Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah’s Messenger (May peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.”

The men were afraid of impregnating the captured girls for that would depreciate their prices in the slave market. So they asked the Prophet whether withdrawal of the penis before ejaculation was allowed. This showed the Prophet allowed sex slaves.

See also Koran 4:24

“And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess. “

The idea that Muslims are allowed to capture non-Muslim women in a jihad for use as sex slaves is not uncommon in the Middle East though it is a minority view. That is why ISIS is doing it and so is Boko Haram. They feel it is justified by Prophet Mohammed’s (PBUH) own example. Here is a link to a Muslim web site where the imam said that sex slavery is allowed:

Even relatively modern Kuwait has its supporters of sex slavery. The following is a link about a Kuwaiti female politician calling or the legalization of sex slavery in Kuwait. To the credit of Kuwaitis, she did not win the elections.

5) Waging jihad, or holy war, to spread Islam and payment of the jizya for conquering non-Muslims

This idea comes from ayahs like this one:

Koran 8:12

“I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip.”

That is what ISIS is doing – chopping people’s heads off and spreading terror. They got their ideas from the Koran.

Koran 9:29

“Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.”

That is what ISIS is doing. Fighting the unbelievers till they accept Islam or pay the jizyah (protection money). Radical Muslims believe it is their duty to fight unbelievers till Islam dominates the world. For these radicals, Islam is not complete till the state practice sharia, a medieval law code that is based on the teachings and example of their Prophet.

6) Marriage and hence sex with young girls – as young as 9

Some Muslims believe that they can marry a girl and have sex with a girl as young as 9 That’s because their holy Prophet had sex with his favorite wife Aisha when she was 9. See Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65. Scroll down to number 65 quoted below:

“Narrated ‘Aisha:
That the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. ”

I know that in primitive societies, people marry early – sometimes soon after puberty is reached. But early marriage is not a good idea in modern societies because you need at least 12 years of schooling. If Muslim girls get married too early, they won’t be properly educated and they will have lots of children. This leads to poverty.

But this explains why the earliest age allowed for marriage in Iran and Saudi Arabia is 9 and 10 respectively according to the Independent. These two countries follow Sharia law which is based on the words and deeds of Prophet Mohammed. Their Prophet is the perfect role model for Muslims according to the Koran 33:21 which states:

“There has certainly been for you in the Messenger of Allah an excellent pattern for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and [who] remembers Allah often.”

It should be pointed out that most Muslims do not follow everything thing the Koran and hadiths teaches. Just as there are ‘cafeteria Christians’, there are also ‘cafeteria Muslims’, who pick and choose what teachings to practice. These are the moderates. Most Muslims you meet will never kill unbelievers or beat their wives or take a sex slave. Many are even nice people. But they won’t be able to refute the radicals because what the radicals are preaching and doing are so strongly grounded in the Koran and Hadiths.

As a result, they will be paralyzed to speak out against the radicals in their midst. It should be noted that not all radicals are violent. But they believe in the goals of ISIS and will try to further its goals in a non-violent way. A common tactic is to blame the actions of ISIS on America or Israel. They are saying, “If you guys do the right thing (ie what we want), the violence will stop.” But what ISIS wants is to conquer the world for Islam where a Caliph (successor to the Prophet Mohammed) rules all.

That is why you find few Muslims condemning what ISIS and Al Qaeda are doing as un-Islamic, even the moderates who do not agree with the goals of ISIS. The moderates cannot find the scriptural text to explain why world conquest by the Caliphate to spread Islam is a bad idea, when during his lifetime, Prophet Mohammed conquered the Arabian peninsula for Islam. In fact, he was preparing to conquer the Byzantine empire just before he died, after having sent a letter to Emperor Heraclius demanding his submission.

While the moderates can’t help you, the non-violent radicals will try to mislead you to help ISIS. Of course, the violent radicals will simply kill you. The fact that the most prestigious Al Azhar university has refused to call ISIS supporters apostates speaks volumes of the current state of Islam.

Yet Al Azhar did not hesitate to condemn moderate Muslims like Faraq Foda. Foda was murdered after being declared an apostate by Al Azhar. Faraq Foda’s sin was to call for separation of religion and politics, a basic principle we take for granted. A courageous Muslim cleric, Muhammad Nasr, blamed Al Azhar for giving ISIS its ideas. He said:

“The Islamic State is a byproduct of Al Azhar’s programs.  So can Al Azhar denounce itself as un-Islamic?  Al Azhar says there must be a caliphate and that it is an obligation for the Muslim world [to establish it].  Al Azhar teaches the law of apostasy and killing the apostate.  Al Azhar is hostile towards religious minorities, and teaches things like not building churches, etc.  Al Azhar upholds the institution of jizya [extracting tribute from religious minorities].  Al Azhar teaches stoning people.  So can Al Azhar denounce itself as un-Islamic?”

So western leaders rushing out to say ‘This is not Islam” whenever there is a terrorist attack are being presumptuous. They are not Muslim scholars and have no qualification to judge what is or is not Islam. If Osama bin Laden’s and Abu Bakr Bhaghdadi’s behavior do not represent Islam, let the Muslim clerics declare them apostates.

Given the current state of Islam, it would be unwise to accept Muslim immigrants till their religion is reformed. But it is a daunting task and only Muslims can do it.

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What Obama said would not be stupid for a Sunnite in position to influence American foreign and domestic policy.

Open letter to Shepard Smith, FoxNews runt:

Smith:

I think you are unfair and unbalanced. Suggesting that Donald Trump is the “darkest” in America. You are despicable. Your network, Fox News, is now, in my mind, as bad a the “main-stream-media”.

You are all announcing the part of Trump’s speech where he says that Muslims should not be allowed into the U.S. But what you fail to say is the second part of that comment: that he wants to hold off on more Muslims entering UNTIL THERE IS A VALID WAY TO VET THEM AND PREVENT MUSLIM RADICAL TERRORISTS FROM ENTERING THE U.S.A. This is temporary.

Fox News like the bunch of other trash, CBS, NBC, etc. are deceiving the public. I will make comments regarding this on the public blogs. When the public reads Trumps entire comments, they agree 100% with Trump and are, no doubt, disgusted with Fox News. Those who oppose Trump’s ideas are a danger to our national security and deserve scorn. Our guns and our safety for family and property are our highest concern.

I have the lowest opinion of you and Fox now. You are all TRASH. You lie. You obfuscate. You misinform. You are SCUM, Smith.

Many, many others agree that stopping the influx of Muslims at this time is a good idea until the U.S. and Europe have a plan for determining who the Muslims are and their movies. Trump is right!

I will NOT watch your unfair and unbalanced program any more. Besides, Fox News is not a news channel; it’s a comments channel where talking heads comment issues to death. And as far as letting people decide the issues, your Fox News does its best to influence the issues. Not fair at all. Cheat!

Besides, I spend more time now watching One America News Network than Fox. OAN on Verizon FIOS and other cable networks soon.

WHEN WILL YOU REALIZE DONAL J. TRUMP IS RIGHT?

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For any who doubt Muslim males may marry children, this verse defines how long before a divorce with such a child is finalized:

Al Talaq (The Divorce) 65:4 Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the Iddah, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy. (Yusuf Ali)

The waiting period of a girl who has not had her menstrual cycle is three months;

Rulings from Islamic scholars (fatwas): –
The waiting period (idda) for a female who does not experience menstruation due to childhood (saghira) will be three consecutive Islamic months. (Hanafi scholar, Mufti Muhammad ibn Adam, Darul Iftaa)

I grew up in MA and know a bit about the REAL history, not the myths,fables and legends that pass for school lessons about The Massachusetts Bay Colony The first Jew to arrive was expelled. Solomon Franco was the first Jew to arrive about 30 years after the Pilgrims. He was expelled, over a dispute over the payment of goods he brought After that welcome no more Jews dared come to MA for over 100 years. I guess this falls within Robert H Lee’s definition of the Judeo Christian values.
Nanny in your Christian Bible is there a minimum age given for marriage? I never saw it. In the USA up until 1880 the minimum age for marriage was 10-12
from wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent “”In the United States, as late as the 1880s most States set the minimum age at 10–12, (in Delaware it was 7 in 1895).[10]
We seem to have forgotten that what some christians now accept as christian values have only rather recently been accepted

and of course Mary mother of jesus got knocked up in early early teens 12-14http://www.truthortradition.com/articles/mary-a-teenage-bride-and-mother

Conservatives also never wanted to accept Jewish refugees from Hitler. They might be forced to become agents of the NAZIS

@AdrianS: I may be mistaken however fox was sold to the saudis. Since they are the puppet masters, it makes some sense as to their views. Balanced and fair? Maybe some time ago, but no longer. They protect barry at all cost.

@AdrianS: and Enchanted Fox is a liberal plant–Can’t trust em–they’re in the tank for BHO and HRC– Trump was planted by DNC to attract crazed right wingers–get the nom and assure HRC win next Nov—working to perfection.
HRC has promised The Donald Sec. of Defense so he can still blow the hell out of everyone including Muslims , Mexicans and anyone who bad mouths his hairdo.

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@john: Unfortunately, you don’t see that the Bible and Judeo-Christian values are at the heart of your own religion (yes, you are religious).

Anti-Christianity depends on the Bible every bit as much as other denominations. And that’s all atheism is: Anti-JudaoChristianity. It needs Jesus as much as any believer. Atheism is a parasitic belief system, devoid of it’s own ideals in favor of hate.

This isn’t about religion as much as it is about culture. Islam is a geo-political ideology…rooted in a level of social civilization that is “primitive” when compared to the West…to JudeoChristian Western Countries.

So proof-text away — Mary was a teen…seven years olds could get married in Delaware, so we’re worst than jihadists….blah, blah, blah — just like the charismatic preacher….just like the nut-job conservative you think you’re better than. Any theologian could chew your sixteen-year-old teen angst assertions to dust. It won’t stop you from hating your chosen “untermenschen” – Christians and Jews.

Welcome to the hate club, assh*le. You make the world a more ugly place when you spew hatred and ignorance as you do.

Your religion calls for zealots, and you’ve answered.

@Rich Wheeler: Number 1:
Carry your opponent’s proposition beyond its natural limits; exaggerate it. The more general your opponent’s statement becomes, the more objections you can find against it. The more restricted and narrow his or her propositions remain, the easier they are to defend by him or her.

@Nathan Blue: As to before menses marraige, John is way off.
Not only is he comparing apples to oranges, he is out of alignment with the legal systems of Islamic countries.
Apples vs oranges: What other people did CENTURIES ago is irrelevant to what is being done TODAY.
Ancient Jews and founding Americans might very well have had younger marriage ages, but they don’t practice that today.
Muslims DO.
Legal argument: Look up the age of concent for Islamic countries. It is at least 16, often 18. BUT, while on paper Muslims are supposed to wait until a marriage would be legal, they so often don’t that most Sharia-governed countries simply accept very early marriages of their female population. No punishment it meted out! That would not happen here or in any non-Sharia western country. We call that rape, child endangerment and sex slavery.
Men who do these things here are punished.

ISIS diesntvwant us to take in those people fleeing from them
Maybe Green thinks we should go what Isis wants?

@john: So, because the Pilgrims kicked a Jew out of the New World, we should accept the fact that radical Islamic terrorists are slaughtering and raping people by the thousands today?

Liberal logic.

@Nathan Blue: Zealots are the problem—Be they Muslim,Jewish,Christian.Hindu et al.
The zealots who’ve experienced the greatest “spike” from the Trump phenomena–White Supremacists —this according to David Duke “Trump is saying what we believe.”

@Rich Wheeler: So, if A Klansman says Trump states some simple common sense, everyone with common sense is a Klansman? Is that the purpose of your example? Both Obama and bin Laden believe (or did) the the 9/11 attacks were provoked. What does this tell us about Obama and every single one of his supporters?

France is accepting 30,000 Syrian refugees, idiots.

@Rich Wheeler: Do I need to point out the logical fallacies in your statement, or can you do that yourself?

The problem is the idea of zealots versus “normal”, adherants…

What if those white supremacists are the “peaceful” kind.

They’re cool then, right?

We’re a nation of laws, not opinions, religions, or sentiments. Islam is a geopolitical ideology with its own legal code. It’s not clear that the average “peac3ful” Muslim isn’t for sharia. If so, it’s illegal to supplant the Constitution with another form of law.

Black panthers were fans of Obama. Guess he wants to kill whitey….

;Bill I don’t know about you and N.B. but I’ve got no time for peaceful White Supremacists or church going KKK'ers.
Bill "Obama believes 9/11 attacks were provoked" You believe that? NUTS.

@Rich Wheeler:

Bill “Obama believes 9/11 attacks were provoked” You believe that? NUTS.

Did he not go out and apologize for US policies? Did he not have a minister that preached that the “chickens came home to roost” on 9/11? Did he leave that church? Did he not select the truther Van Jones as his green jobs czar (imagine… a communist as someone that is to grow jobs in a capitalistic system)?

Nuts is voting for Obama. Nuts is denying the evidence of where his loyalties lie.

See this article by Ali Sina:

Islam and sex with infants

Republicans are worse that useless when it comes to dealing with ISIS. House republicans talk tough, but they still haven’t bothered to discuss Obama’s request for authorization to use military force against them, let alone allowing a vote on the matter. They’re too politically chickenshit to vote for it, and also too politically chickenshit to vote it down.

Do you think the problem is only in the House? Consider this bit of politically motivated Senate obstructionism. It actually impedes effective action against ISIS funding sources.

What do these people do to earn their paychecks?

Fox news is still OK though some Saudi Prince has a big stake. See this interview:

Robert Spencer on Fox

@Greg:

Republicans are worse that useless when it comes to dealing with ISIS.

Kind of difficult to judge that since when Republicans led the nation, there WAS no ISIS. It wasn’t Republicans that cultivated them so they could grow, conquer and then launch attacks overseas.

House republicans talk tough, but they still haven’t bothered to discuss Obama’s request for authorization to use military force against them, let alone allowing a vote on the matter.

And Obama’s plan which they should authorize is…. what? How about Obama lay out for THEM what his plan of action is and THEN ask them to authorize it?

@Reem: Relevance much? Do pray tell, what consequences have yet been felt? How has their social structure been impacted by the influx of so many? How has their social welfare system been stretched by their acceptance of people who are unable to contribute to their general welfare? Do they have 50K homeless vets that their Government has declared they cannot attend to?

How does it make sense to you that we have people who VOLUNTEERED to serve us, sacrifice for us, and protect us, and are now dependent upon us; for us to take in refugees from elsewhere when we cannot or will not attend to our own is scandalous!

@Greg: Congratulations, Greggie Goebbels, you have divined the process for refining and weaponizing stupidity! I am certain that you parents, ( sleeping upstairs) are duly proud!

Swedish officials are in a state of panic after dozens of citizens received an ISIS threat to convert or die.

ISIS offered Swedish citizens to convert to Islam, pay the jizya or decapitation.

The citizens were told they had three days to make their decision.
Here is a copy of the letter…..
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/isis-threat-sweden.jpg

In 2015, 150,000 asylum seekers have been registered in Sweden.
As of now, fewer than 13% of Sweden’s population is Muslim. (Counting both foreign-born and 1st generation immigrants.)

That happened kind of quick, huh?