Echoes of Benghazi.
This was different right from the start. Sandy Hook, Aurora, Tucson- lone wolf attacks. This time multiple gunmen were involved. Mass shootings involving more than one gunman are rare. The shooting took place at ironically, at a center for the “developmentally disabled.” The shooters were identified as Syed Farook and his wife Tashfeen Malik. They were apparently a couple, but the extent of their relationship is not entirely clear. Farook is described as being a “devout Muslim.”
Farook was reportedly in attendance at social services center, got into an argument with someone and left. He apparently went home, where he just happened to have handguns, AR-15-like rifles, lots of ammunition, ski masks and tactical gear (people noticed that Faroook had been receiving deliveries of lots of packages but chose not to report anything for fear of being labeled racist). Farook’s house was described as an “IED facility.”
There is no situation so bad that the left can’t make it worse. Conservatives waited for information. Liberals took advantage of the carnage to score cheap political points. Reince Preibus asked for prayers and the loathsome Markos Moulitsas shot out this tweet:
Hillary Clinton, of course, joined in the crass party 
The New York Daily News wanted in on the fun 
(images via Weasel Zippers)
There is no plumbing the bottom of liberal depravity. This was clear Islamic terrorism. All that remains to be seen is Obama’s whitewashing of the event. I can see it now: It was a spontaneous protest. It was workplace violence (Despite Farook not working at the center).
It’s a “bump in the road” to Islamization of America.
It’s just another “setback.”
It was caused by a video (likely Charlie Brown’s Christmas).
Susan Rice will take to the Sunday morning shows to push the video talking points. Obama will head to the UN and point his finger at the Charlie Brown Christmas video. Hillary will promise the families of the victims that she will bring Charles Schultz to justice. Pelosi and democrats will call for end to the broadcasting of A Charlie Brown Christmas to the US doesn’t radicalize more Muslims. (I’m also waiting for the call to end all Christmas parties and displays lest they offend and radicalize Muslims and incite them to violence.)
Bureau of Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives spokeswoman Meredith Davis said “…this was well-planned out and it was to be violent in nature.” Indeed it was. You can bet your life that Obama, who chided us about those gun owner types who cling bitterly to their guns and religion, will dodge any possible reference to religion in this case. Today CBS This Morning could not prod itself to say the “M” word.
Farook’s house has been described as an “IED factory.” The couple was loaded for bear. Tactical gear, long weapons, handguns, lots of magazines (no word on whether they were high capacity). The San Bernardino police chief says “We have not ruled out terrorism.”
I know we ought not jump to conclusions, but
DUH
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DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed.
Except for liberals being foolish.
@Redteam: Not a Trumpist? You’ve done every thing but kiss his ass RT..
Are you being facetious when you say BHO will call it workplace violence? Or you just enjoy being wrong?
@Rich Wheeler:
No, you didn’t. You just pointed to it and then do what you do best; obfuscate and run from your own mouth.
And what year was that, RW? Who was President in 2010 when those officers were released from prison? Why it was President Stompy Foot, better known as President Sh!t For Brains.
How so? Have you forgotten your original statement? Here, let me remind you:
How was that Bush’s mistake when Obama was in office when those Iraqi officers were still in prison until 2010?
You have jumped the shark, RW, blaming Bush for an event that happened under Obama. You are not even honest enough to admit that Obama has been a foreign policy/military disaster and we Americans will pay for that with our blood.
Depending on how you define ”mentally ill,” Rich, I would agree with you.
For instance, if a veteran has had an operation and is weak so as to need a caregiver to handle his money affairs (even temporarily) Obama wanted to take away all of his guns.
BUT mentally ill has nothing to do with physical weakness.
A person should have to have been ADJUDICATED as mentally ill by a strict definition of the term before he could have guns confiscated.
And, certainly he should lose the right to buy more guns.
Now, the so-called ”watch list,” or “no-fly list,” is FILLED with errors.
Not only that, but there is no legal standard for ”proof” that these people ever did (or will do) anything wrong.
Take the example of James O’Keef. He pretended to be Osama bin Laden while crossing our southern border in order to, through hyperbola, show that Obama has stood our Border Patrol down. Since then he has been detained every time he’s crossed back into this country. Should his guns be taken away?
Want more examples?
http://www.bustle.com/articles/15044-fbi-checks-wrong-box-places-student-on-no-fly-list
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/05/am-i-on-the-no-fly-list-0151-and-other-faqs-to-the-fbi/257316/
TSA data shows there were 19,500 applications for redress in the last fiscal year to resolve issues pertaining to air travel, border crossings and visas, and more.
It takes MORE than 7 years to get off that list after wrongfully being put on it. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/03/after-seven-years-exactly-one-person-gets-off-the-govt-no-fly-list/
44,000 are most likely on the classified list.
That number includes TODDLERS!
http://thefw.com/toddler-on-no-fly-list/
So, no, I disagree.
Being put on a secret list for no provable reason and kept there by a Kafka-eske system is no way to winnow who ought to be able to exercise his/her 2nd Amendment rights.
@Rich Wheeler:
You can not, in any way, show where I have said I’m for Trump for president. Has not happened.
Just finished watching the Mo Ron make his speech. He thinks there is a group named ISIL over there somewhere. He refuses to name the enemy. He won’t say muslim terrorist, Islamic terrorist, ISIS, Dimocrats, etc.
He wants to usurp more ‘rights’. Take away your right to buy a gun just because some fruitcake puts someone on a ‘no fly’ list. He thinks someone used ‘high powered assault rifles’ in San Bernardino. He is truly delusional. He thinks we should keep the door open to the terrorists, no visa, no passport, just open doors. Where did I get that wrong Rainbow?
@retire05: Baathist Officers “fired/dismissed ” summarily by Bush Admin shortly after 2003 invasion became ISIS leaders– That’s what I’m saying –was a mistake—in hindsight—As AV said they are now ISIS leaders.
RT —Spend some time reviewing your comments about Trump over the last 45 days–nothing but praise—Nothing even close on other candidates. .
In fact I’d say your love of Donald almost as strong as your hate of Barack.
Norway has lowered violent crime by 31% in 1 year
they deported 7100 muslims, with another 20,000 or so they could nearly eliminate all spontaneous protests.
@Rich Wheeler: One thing the fact that most of the leaders of ISIS being former Iraqi Ba’athists proves is that Saddam and company weren’t the innocent secularists that they were portrayed as being. That may have been true during the Gulf War, but that changed. There were strong indications that both he and his upper ranks were becoming more radicalized in their religious beliefs. Robison did an excellent job of documenting that fact in Both in One Trench which was based on captured Iraqi intel documents as opposed to armchair generals giving their opinions based on preconceived biases and outdated facts such as there wasn’t any WMD in Iraq. There were three reasons Saddam reached out to AQ for. The first was obviously self preservation. The second was the old adage that enemy of my enemy is my friend, in this case the good old U.S. Lastly, him and his ilk were beginning to embrace radical Islam.
As for the mistakes made regarding post invasion Iraq, there were more than one just like any military operation. The first person who was to be in charge of post invasion Iraq was Jay Garner, who was well qualified for the role. Bush replaced him with Paul Bremer. A mistake. He was in over his head and was the one who advocated dismantling the entire Iraqi military (as opposed to just the Republican Guard) which could have been used to help secure the country.
Bottom line is the biggest mistake of Iraq was blowing off the advice of our generals who recommended leaving troops there. The second biggest mistake was not taking ISIS seriously from the get go despite repeated warnings from our own intel, the Kurds, and the Iraqis. Neither of those mistakes were Bush’s fault.
@Rich Wheeler:
So you made the statement and you want me to prove it for you? Wouldn’t be there because I have specifically been non committal on who I would support. I have said all along I will vote for the Republican unless it is Jindal, Cruz or Rubio. So this is just another example of you making a statement you can’t back up.
I certainly don’t ‘hate’ Obozo. I just think he’s a Mo Ron and a Muslim and is a traitor to ‘his’ country. Do you think it is actually possible for him to be more wrong on his statement tonight?
Hey Richie, what do you think of latest polling showing that Trump could win all 50 states? I’ll bet you don’t believe that. He’s even leading in your state, who woulda thunk?
@Redteam: I accept you’ve got an active imagination.
CNN poll released yesterday Clinton 49% – Trump 46%
Trump leads Repub nom–He’ll come back to earth and Rubio will get nom and give HRC a fight—you still pretending/predicting she won’t be the nom?
@Rich Wheeler:
You said:
Then when I called you on it, after much dodging, you said:
So AV did respond with this:
BAM!
@retire05: I never said those mistakes were Bush’s fault. I said disbanding the Army in 2003-4 was Bush’s fault Those Field Grade Officers became and remain ISIS leaders.
Bam yourself
@Rich Wheeler:
Wrong. What you said is this:
You clearly indicated that disbanding Saddam’s army outright led to turning high ranking officers joining ISIS, a major Bush mistake. Now you’re (once again) running from your own mouth.
Those “high ranking” officers were in prison under Bush. They were let out under Obama.
You continue to prove your dishonesty.
As to those officers of Saddam’s army, who remembers Turkey’s role in helping them?
If you have good memories, you know Bush’s plan included a lightening fast pincer attack on Saddam’s forces; 1/2 from the south, the other half from the north (through Turkey.)
But, at the last moment, after we had over 50,000 troops inside Turkey waiting for the order to enter Iraq, Turkey reneged.
Pincer movement was thwarted by fellow Muslims.
The part of Saddam’s army that our southern forces missed melted into the civilian population to later become leaders of ISIS.
Don’t blame Bush.
Muslims stood together despite Turkey wanting to join NATO so bad.
Talk about a Trojan Horse!
@retire05: You are the dishonest one or you just can’t comprehend what I wrote–last time KISS
Bush “fired” the Baathist Army Field Grades in 03-04 rather than incorporate them into new Iraq Army –MISTAKE To be more specific Paul Brenner appointed by Bush, made the Baathist Party illegal and disbanded the Army
Many Field Grades joined ISIS and many were radicalized in Canp Baca prison by CURRENT ISIS leader AL Bakr AL Bagdadi. These Bush fired Saddham Generals are the leaders of ISIS today .Bush could have kept them to lead the new Democratic Iraq’s Army. Pretty simple.
Again o5 If you promise to stop telling lies about me I’ll promise to stop telling the truth about you
@Rich Wheeler:
Oh well……the CNN poll? CNN is certainly not biased, right? Why don’t you look at some of the neutral polls, you won’t see your fair lady doing so well. Bet she’ll look orange in orange.
@Rich Wheeler: I think you want someone to keep telling lies about you, it sounds so much better than the truth.
I don’t believe even you can follow your ‘logic’ that Bush put them in jail, there were a bunch of criminals there, (who woulda thought) they learned some new tricks there, and that’s Bush’s fault. The fact that Obozo let them out to utilize those new skills, of course, is NOT Obozo’s fault. You must have learned that logic at some Ivy league school or something. Were you an affirmative action grad? Sounds as if you’re using the same logic as that other famous Affirm Act grad.
@Redteam:
Good and fair point, Rich.
Here are the national match-up polls:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html#polls
BUT there is something skewed about all these polls.
While Hillary is a runaway leader (30 points above) with a couple of pathetic competitors, Trump has 13 opponents, some of whom pull numbers in the double digits.
When this field clears and we have our nominee (whoever it is) Hillary will lose to that nominee.
@Rich Wheeler:
Rich are you saying that Army Field Grades 03-04 were Saddam Generals? I believe our 07 level is the lowest flag rank.
@Redteam:0/3-0/4 is reference to year not rank–lol
Bush/Brenner did not put these men in jail when they disbanded the Army in o3/o4. They were unemployed—the whole Army was. Many “signed up” with A.Q. and ISIS to fight against new Shiite led American backed govt. Later many imprisoned at Camp Baca–now ISIS leaders—-capiche
O5 and RT To be clear I am referring to General Officers primarily and Field Grade Officers secondarily
@Nanny G: Thank You.
Your point well taken. I believe if Trump the nominee many Repubs. and most indies will not vote for him. Rubio/Kasich ticket will enjoy broad support from almost all Repubs, majority of Indies and a substantial number of Dems like myself.
MUCH easier path to victory for Rubio than Trump.
@Rich Wheeler: You are sure doing a lot of double talk to try to avoid the fact that these people WERE in prison and were let out by Obama. Had they been kept locked up, they would not have been ISIS.
@Rich Wheeler:
Perhaps you failed Writing Composition at that tony university you attended? Of course not. You’re so arrogant you think the fault could never be yours. News flash!!! You’re wrong. And now you’re claiming you said something you didn’t. No surprise. That’s the way you roll.
You want to call me stupid? Then how about this: kiss my a$$.
But that is not what you originally said, is it? More twisting on your part. You’re beginning to resemble Chubby Checkers.
Wow! Glad to know that you are so much smarter than the military who were in the Bush administration. How did they ever get along without you?
Well, just exactly what is this enlightened “truth” you claim to know about me? I have asked you that question before, but as is your m.o., you ran from it and never answered.
I have never lied about you, although you have lied about what I, and others, have said. That makes YOU the liar (yes, I’m finally calling you a liar) and not me or others.
Put the paint brush down, RW. Your arrogance has been your downfall.
BTW, it’s “Saddam” NOT “Saddham.”
@Rich Wheeler:
And what was the year all these former Iraqi Army were signing up with AQ and ISIS? Ummmm? And you’re saying those that signed up with ISIS were imprisoned “later”?
Splain, Lucy.
Rich, I notice you didn’t tell us how great Obama’s speech was last night.
@Rich Wheeler: Perhaps, if the field cleared in that direction.
But check out this CNN poll where Independents and Republicans answers are added together.
Especially note the final pages (pages 10 to end) where various Republicans are rated by this group.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/12/04/cnnorc12042015gopprimarypoll.pdf
Rubio and Kasich would have some major catching up to do.
@retire05: Why confuse this 1) Majority of current ISIS military leaders were Baathist General and Field Grade Officers who went unemployed (not imprisoned) under Bush/Brenner directive circa 2003-2004. You figure it out.
KISS not directed at any specific person or persons
@Nanny G: Have you seen the % of Repubs who won’t vote Trump? How bout Indies? Trump negatives too high to win POTUS.
Poll out today Cruz leads Trump in Iowa Rubio close third.
@Redteam: Re your previous prediction.#99
Did I miss in speech where Obama called shootings workplace violence?
@Rich Wheeler:
Answer that because you are the one that is confused. You said:
you seem to be saying they were in prison and Obozo let them out. Tell us why he let ISIS leaders out of prison.
You sure are anxious to find rogue polls that seem to indicate that someone other than Trump is leading. Are you that afraid that Trump will win? Would you please notify us when you find a poll that thinks Hillary will win?
I don’t know, did you? Did you miss where he said it was someone that is on a no fly list? Or that someone had gotten assault weapons illegally? Or did you miss the part where he said that the screening of Muslims is not adequate to prevent Muslim terrorists such as this woman from entering the country but we should let even more Muslims in, because the US is ‘nice people’ and we don’t mind having murderers wandering around freely? Actually I know you didn’t miss all that because I’m sure you were watching it just so you could say he didn’t say it was ‘workplace violence’. I know you were so disappointed when he did, blowing your whole evening.
Richie, just for the record, here are sentences no. 3 and 4 from his speech:
How would you purse that?
@Rich Wheeler:
Ah, so now you’ve let your mouth overload your a$$ and you are going to run from your own comments again. Well, how about this:
“It was under the watch of the current Islamic State leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, that the recruitment of former Baathist officers became a deliberate strategy, according to analysts and former officers.
Tasked with rebuilding the greatly weakened insurgent organization after 2010, Baghdadi embarked on an aggressive campaign to woo the former officers, drawing on the vast pool of men who had either remained unemployed or had joined other, less extremist insurgent groups.”
And who would that have been that was POTUS in 2010, Rich?
And then, there is this:
“Some of them had fought against al-Qaeda after changing sides and aligning with the American-backed Awakening movement during the surge of troops in 2007. When US troops withdrew and the Iraqi government abandoned the Awakening fighters, the Islamic State was the only surviving option for those who felt betrayed and wanted to change sides again, said Brian Fishman, who researched the group in Iraq for West Point’s Combating Terrorism Center and is now a fellow with the New America Foundation.
Baghdadi’s effort was further aided by a new round of de-Baathification launched after US troops left in 2011 by then Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, who set about firing even those officers who had been rehabilitated by the American military.”
Strange, the article quoted doesn’t seem to lay much blame on George W. Bush, as you do.
Once again, you have stepped in it. You blamed Bush for things that didn’t happen until after he had already left office with President Sh!t For Brains calling the shots. 2010 and 2011, after the Iraqis had learned that President SFB did not have their backs.
Liar. It was directed at me since it was in a post where you were responding to me. You can’t even be honest about that.
@retire05: KISS–For the uninformed non military among us—a design principle noted by the US. Navy in 1960 and states that most systems work best if they are kept simple.That’s it.
Now if you want to continue to call me a liar don’t expect any further discourse.
As you continue to hurl insults I’ll consider the source. Nuf said
@Rich Wheeler:
Well, duh! My family’s all Navy. Like I didn’t know that. Thanks for the lesson, NOT!
What ever excuse makes you feel good for not dealing with your own failure to defend what you said. Frankly, it just shows your dishonor. BTW, that’s the first time I have ever called you a liar. I never called you a liar until now, and after you lied about what I have said previously. You have no honor, Rich. You are all hat and no cattle. So run away, don’t answer my questions, and continue to expose yourself as being a dishonest phony. Frankly, it’s what I would expect from a liberal.
@Redteam: I heard him say they went down the dark path of radicalization–an act of terrorism designed to kill innocent people.
o5 My statement was clear, concise and most importantly true–KISS—You oughta try it sometime.
@Rich Wheeler:
And you might try being honest sometime. Until then, you just remain a cowardly whiny liar.
@another vet: I agree with your post and thank you for your response-I concur Obama screwed up by pulling out early.
My point was simply this, Many of the current military leaders of ISIS were previously high ranking Baathist Officers. Rather than incorporate them into the military of the new Democracy Brenner/Bush sent them into unemployment.KISS In hindsight was this a wise decision? Not my idea I’ve read these thoughts in at least 2 reliable publications Your thoughts.
O5 is acting like a lunatic–ranting and raving cursing and spitting. I find her hilarious–she thinks people may stalk her.
Semper Fi–Thanks for your long and faithful service
Note In paragraph 2 #107 You stated–“Bremer advocated dismantling the entire military (as opposed to just the Republican Guard) which could have been used to help secure the country.” Well said.
@Rich Wheeler:
?
Did you miss this part of the article I cited?
“Some of them had fought against al-Qaeda after changing sides and aligning with the American-backed Awakening movement during the surge of troops in 2007. When US troops withdrew and the Iraqi government abandoned the Awakening fighters, the Islamic State was the only surviving option for those who felt betrayed and wanted to change sides again,
Ranting? Isn’t that what you do every time you post here? Raving cursing? How so? Because I told you to kill my a$$ after you called me stupid? Spitting? And how would you know that? Do you have some magical computer that allows you to see me when I type?
Here is your problem, Rich: I am sick and tired of the bull corn you liberals put out but you’re so used to us conservatives just taking it, and not fighting back, that you assume we should continue to take the crap you dish out. Well, get used to it, Rich, I’m not taking it any more and no conservative should.
You’re dishonest and full of hot air. Deal with it. You say something erroneous and then try to equivocate what you said by saying something else and qualifying what you said by more equivocation. I will continue to call you out on that and I’m not sorry it hurts your widdle feelings.
As to asking if you were stalking me; perhaps you should remember what you said in a previous post. You wanted to know if I was stalking you because I responded to one of your posts too quickly in your opinion. I guess now you’re FA’s time keeper.
@Rich Wheeler:
Are you trying to say that sentences 3 and 4 were not in his speech or you just ‘tuned him out’?
Rich are you actually saying that it was Bush’s responsibility to find employment for the citizens of Iraq after the war? ” Brenner/Bush sent them into unemployment.” So you’re saying that Obama followed up on that by providing them with employment, as ISIS members? Shouldn’t both Bush and Obama have stayed out of the employment problems of Iraqi citizens? Maybe Obozo should be working on the unemployment problem in the US since it’s the highest level of unemployed persons since the great depression. Come to think of it, that was under a Dimocrat also, wasn’t it?
Just love this statement by Lt Col Peters on Fox News: “”I mean, this guy is such a total p*ssy, it’s stunning!” Peters shouted.
Anyone want to guess who he was referring to?
@retire05: I’m sorry you don’t understand my rather simple assertion,repeated in #137, which A.V. appears to agree with in his post #107 paragraph.2 Instead you go into a long rant–nothing new. KISS
RT See A.V #107 paragraph 2—There it is.
Re your #139–BHO called it terrorism–he did not call it workplace violence–did you miss that on FOX?
Talk about ranting The Donald’s lost it–He’s channeling Don Rickles.
@Rich Wheeler:
Your assertion in your post #137 had little to do with your first claim that former Baathist officers joining ISIS was Bush’s fault. You also choose to ignore the article that said some of them joined the Awakening Fighters, under Bush, I might add, only to be deserted by Obama or the years in which they were recruited by al Baghdadi (under Obama). Still you want to blame every thing that has gone wrong on Bush because you can’t admit President Sh!t For Brains is a strategical disaster.
You let your mouth overload your a$$ and now you are trying to equivocate and obfuscate.
Now, we all know that you won’t answer questions when you think it’s going to back you into a corner you can’t escape from. That’s dishonesty, Rich, something you seem to excel at. Both AV and Nan have told you that ISIS is NOT Bush’s fault, yet you seem to feel no compulsion to admit your error. Let me just remind you, again, of your initial statement:
Disbanding Saddham’s army outright and completely, eventually turning high ranking officers to ISIS, a major Bush mistake
This statement alone says you blame Bush for “eventually turning high ranking officers to ISIS”. You have been told by others, that is flat out incorrect.
I also find it humorous that you all me a lunatic, but get your Hanes all in a wad when I tell you to kiss my a$$. Get over yourself. Admit when you are wrong. Show some honor. And stop being a jerk.
@retire05: Last time o5===If Bush/Brenner incorporated the Baathist Officers into the fledgling US backed Democracy’s Army IN 2003-2004–as many suggested they should– they NEVER become ISIS military leaders–why would they leave those cushy billets? If you don’t understand that simple logic it’s your problem–KISS—-Stop digging–
You wanna turn this into a name calling contest between an old Texas Conservative and an old U.S. Marine—be my guest–have at it.
@Rich Wheeler:
So you did miss sentences 3 and 4. Go back and listen.
You think that’s why his numbers keep going up? He’s leading in almost every state and within striking distance in the one’s he is slightly behind in. What’ll you do?
@retire05:
No can do. He’s a lib, that’s not in their chemistry. Voting for idiots come naturally to them.
@Rich Wheeler:
Woulda, coulda, shoulda. All b/s. If FDR had not trusted the Japanese emissaries and had better intel, Pearl Harbor would have never been bombed. If President SFB had never pulled out of Iraq the way he did, ISIS would have stayed marginalized like it was in 2007. Go ahead and continue to ignore that some of those Iraqi offices joined the Awakening Forces under Bush. I know it doesn’t fit your narrative.
Redundancy is not a positive trait.
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You’re the one that dug a hole you can’t get out of. Lesson #1, don’t let your mouth overload your a$$.
“Waaaaahhhh!!!!! Retire05 retaliated when I lied about her. Waaaahhhhh!!!!! I’m a big, bad a$$ed ex Marine that needs defending against a woman.”
Guess you think you should be able to lie about me and I just take it. Not happening, Bubba. I told you long ago, I’m fighting back against all you lying liberals. Don’t like it? Don’t lie about me. And don’t let your mouth run off to the point you can’t defend what you say.. And don’t think you can call me names like “lunatic” and think you can get by with that (which I’m sure you will attempt to equivocate with your next post). You can’t, and you never will.
@Redteam:
He’s had a burr under his saddle when it comes to me for a long time. He thinks his dishonesty should go unchallenged. Ask him a question like “Are you claiming you have never spouted off a falsity?” he runs and hides and will never answer it. He’s as dishonest as the politicians he votes for, i.e. Democrats.
@Redteam: You keep changing your evaluation of Trump’s #’s You think Iowa the only state he’s trailing? Foolish You really think this guy can win?—-You the guy who said N.D would lose at least 4 ACC games–they lost just one and finished way ahead of LSU in national polls—LSU lucky they were so bad— they won’t get spanked again by The Irish in a bowl game.
Tiresome old 5 You continue to lie —it’s what you do best. You’re a bore.
At least your sidekick RT has a sense of humor,-You’re just dried up.
@Rich Wheeler:
I don’t lie, you do. You lied about me. You’ve pushed falsities on this site more times than I can count (yeah, I went back and read some of your old entries.) And what do you do best? Crap on that uniform you once donned as you tow the liberal line?
You got busted and now you are going to be oh, so indignant. Poor widdle Richie. Big mean Retire05 is calling him out. Waaaaahhh!!!
So what? That’s your opinion but only because you can’t justify your own comments so you retaliate by name calling (didn’t you just object to that?). I’m not a bore. I am a Christian core conservative that is sick of the b/s put out by left coast liberals like yourself. Our nation is going down the drain because people like you were so stupid as to vote for President SFB. And then, you have to lie about a previous president to justify your own failures.
I may be a bore, but you’re a cowardly weasel who runs from questions. Just like the brainwashed Greggie Goebbles.
Oh, back to the insults, I see. Thought you objected to lobbing insults. Guess not. HYPOCRITE.
Please, come back for more. I’m enjoying showing you up for the jerk you are.
@retire05: You’ve got a vivid imagination —You rant and you rave–Used to claim you never called me a liar but of course you did. Now you claim you’ve gone back in the posts and found more falsities than you can count–got nothing better to do old 5?
You’re a sad old lady with a huge bug up your ass–get a life.
You are the only totally un civil poster I ‘ve dealt with on F.A.–If there were more like you I’d be gone–You’re the lone loser—fortunately