The Tsarnaev brothers were refugees too

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President Barack Arrogant McStompyfoot held his ground the other day, proclaiming that the US was going to continue importing Syrian refugees, despite the fact that they cannot be properly screened. Deputy National Security Director Ben Rhodes was the guy who made sure the video was the focus in the aftermath of the Benghazi attacks as opposed to policy failure. He now assures us that the refugees will be thoroughly screened. He’s not worried.

Todd asked, “Does the president now have any more pause about bringing Syrian refugees into the United States?”

Rhodes said, “No, Chuck. We have very extensive screening procedures for all Syrian refugees who come to the United States. There is a very careful vetting process that including our terrorism community, our Department of Homeland Security. Let’s remember, Chuck, we’re also dealing with people who suffer the horrors of war. Women and children, orphans. We can’t just shut our doors to those people. We need to do our part to take refugees in need.”

The assurances of a liar are less than comforting. Taking in refugees already bit us in the ass.

The Tsarnaev brothers were refugees too:

With their baseball hats and sauntering gaits, they appeared to friends and neighbors like ordinary American boys. But the Boston bombing suspects were refugees from another world — the blood, rubble and dirty wars of the Russian Caucasus.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, was a southpaw heavyweight boxer who represented New England in the National Golden Gloves and talked about competing on behalf of the United States. His tangle-haired 19-year-old brother, Dzhokhar, was a skateboarder who listened to rap and seemed easygoing to other kids in his Cambridge, Mass., neighborhood.

Refugees is one thing. It’s scary, because the official processing of VISA’s is pathetic. The 9-11 hijackers were allowed into the country despite incomplete and nonsensical answers on their VISA applications.

All 19 of the hijacker applications were incomplete in some way, with data fields left blank and questions not fully answered. Every application should have been round-filed. Yet U.S. officials approved 22 of the 23 hijacker visa applications. Of the 15 Saudis, four got their visas after the creation of the Visa Express Program in June 2001. Eight other conspirators tried to get visas during the course of the plot. Three succeeded, including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of 9/11. Mushabib al Hamlan, one of the other two, did not participate. Mohamed al Kahtani, the other, ran into an inspector with Army experience, who thought Kahtani acted like a “hit man” and refused him entry. This unnamed inspector is one of the rare heroes of this report, but readers will get the feeling that many others would have waved Kahtani through.

Think about that. Proper screening could have prevented 9-11.

The 1993 attack on the World Trade Center came courtesy of a someone failing to do his job:

An employee who “failed to do his job”–a simple check of a watch-list microfiche–enabled Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, a jihadist involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, to avoid detection. The report also explains that “[f]ailure by the State Department to promptly watchlist Rahman played a role in his gaining entry to the United States.” Such actions have consequences, but the real shockers of this report are the visa applications of the 9/11 terrorists.

Here is part of a litany of missed opportunities that might have changed September 11, 2001:

July 5, 2001: 9/11 Hijacker Atta Pulled over for Speeding; Police Do Not Notice Warrant for His Arrest

July 4, 2001: 9/11 Hijacker Almihdhar Who Should Have Been on Watch List Re-enters US Without Difficulty on Invalid Passport, Lists WTC as Destination

June 20, 2001: 9/11 Hijacker Salem Alhazmi Obtains US Visa, despite NSA Surveillance, Incomplete Application, and Possible Lie on Application

And we’re supposed to believe that this incompetent administration is going to keep us safe while shoving hundreds of thousands of inadequately screened Syrians down our throats?

Who is to bear the cost of a vetting failure? What American should surrender his life for this invasion? 120 people have already been killed by illegals released by Obama. Who is to die for the sake of Obama’s legacy? Who do you ask to forfeit a life? It’s not as though there is no past record of refugee behavior. They’ve thrown Christians overboard to their deaths, women are routinely raped in camps and women are spit on and abused in host nations. Job One of the President is to protect Americans, not offer them up as collateral damage for personal social projects. Americans have already paid with their lives for taking in refugees. Why isn’t Obama as concerned for American citizens as he is for dubious refugees?

So who will answer for the first lost American life this time? You, Obama? Will it be just another “setback”?

DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education. DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed. Except for liberals being foolish.

41 Responses to “The Tsarnaev brothers were refugees too”

  1. 1

    Nanny G

    Bobby Jindal was the first governor to write the White House insisting that no more Syrian ”refugees” be settled in LA.
    That’s good since they only have a small handful yet one of them has already gone missing!
    The Catholic Charities org says it was in charge of helping all the Syrians resettle BUT NOT of tracking them!
    So, he’s in the wind.

    Oh, the State Dept claims they know where he is BUT won’t tell!

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    This article is inaccurate — the Tsarnaev brothers were not refugees. They came to the U.S. on tourist visas and then applied for asylum once they were here. The screening process for a tourist visa and asylee status is very different and much less stringent than the refugee screening process.

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    I guess the GOP has found a new political pony. They’ll ride this one around in circles for however long it attracts attention. Look folks! We’re doing something!

    How about doing something real? You know, since state governors have no legal authority to close state borders to refugees. Allowing a House vote on the Commander-in-Chief’s request for authorization to use military force against ISIS would be nice.

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    @drjohn, #6:

    Didn’t need it to overthrow Gaddafi, did he? Now he wants someone else to share being a failure. That’s it.

    The failure I see is a total failure of republican integrity. The President has been diligently applying U.S. military power against ISIS on a daily basis for over a year, killing a third of their forces and eradicating their leadership and propagandists at every opportunity.

    The opposition party should fully support that effort, since in this case we are fighting an enemy that has clearly and unequivocally stated their intention to kill American citizens at home and abroad and to bring terrorism to our nation’s capital. They have clearly demonstrated their capability to make good on such threats.

    In addition to supporting the President’s efforts against ISIS, if the opposition party has alternative approaches in mind they should clearly articulate those thoughts. Offering constructive criticism is in fact part of their duty to the nation.

    The GOP is doing neither. They constantly attack the President’s efforts against ISIS, totally ignore or discredit the significance of every successful blow against them, and assist the enemy by constantly attempting to weaken support for the President’s efforts while offering no clear alternatives themselves. They also assist the enemy by making statements that elevate the level of public fear—fear being the chief weapon that ISIS is using to advance its agenda.

    They’re not helping in the battle against ISIS, and they’re exploiting the fear ISIS is producing to their own political advantage. In what sense are the people behaving in this fashion not behaving as traitors to their nation?

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    The WaPo article is incorrect. The media has referred to the Tsarnaevs colloquially as “refugees” but there is a legal distinction between an asylee and a refugee.

    Here’s three media sources (I’m pretty sure the Daily Caller is a conservative one) confirming that they came over on tourist visas and then sought asylee status:

    Here, the Economist (which describes itself as a conservative, pro-business publication) explains the difference between an asylee and a refugee:

  6. 10

    Common Sense

    @Greg: Greggie Greggie Greggie, Republicans have done more than Obola and you know it. They have repealed his failed Healthcare plan and Obola just veto it. The America People voted in historic numbers to replace Democrats in the House and the Senate, why Greggie?? To say Obola is giving the ISIS effort the best the US can give is appalling and stupid!! Your telling me France and Russia are better than we are Greggie?? Shame on you and shame on Obola!!

  7. 11


    @Common Sense, #10:

    You should give some thought to the losses that ISIS has taken as a result of Obama’s (unauthorized) use of military force over the past 14 months: an estimated 10,000 ISIS fighters dead, which the CIA estimates to be 1/3 of their total forces; their leader paralyzed; his replacement vaporized 2 months later; Jihadi John blown to bits last Friday; the leader of ISIS in Libya vaporized by U.S. Tomcats on Saturday. U.S. Thunderbolts obliterated 116 fuel tankers ISIS uses to haul oil that same weekend. More airstrikes may be underway as we speak.

    Tell me one useful thing that republicans have done to assist with the effort.

  8. 13


    Sir or Madam, you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. Refer to post #11. Don’t take my word for it. Check the details for yourself.

  9. 14


    The GOP springs into action: “Watch This Space.”

    I’ve been assuming this man is not a total idiot. He seems rather intelligent. However, the intention for their Soon To Be Revealed bill would appear to be an instruction to the President to not just fight ISIS, but to create a plan to WIN THE FIGHT.

    OK. Don’t contain evil. DEFEAT EVIL! That’s certainly brilliant.

    So, how about taking up his request for the authority to use military force against ISIS? That might be helpful. If you don’t like the way it’s worded, change the wording in the authorization you extend. That’s simple enough. It’s been an option all along, hasn’t it?

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    The king does what he wants. Like I said, he overthrew a sovereign government without Congress’ support. The only reason he’d want someone else’s participation would be to share the blame for failure and shift it away from him. The son of a bitch can’t even admit he was wrong about ISIS.

    Obama is above all a liar. A stinking, lousy, filthy liar. He’s lying about Syria and ISIS. He cooked the books. I already wrote about that.

  11. 18

    Common Sense

    @Greg: Greggie really?? That’s all that has been done?? France and Russia did more in a day!! Tell me the US military is better than that!! Almost every post you make you blame Republicans including Congress and/or Bush!! Now you whine when it happens to Obola and it’s true!! What a piece of liberal krap you are!!

  12. 19


    France and Russia did more in a day!!

    You don’t seem to have much regard for what has been accomplished over the past 14 months by U.S. military forces. I’m rather impressed by that short-list of their accomplishments.
    You can add to it all of the high-ranking al Qaeda leadership cadre killed over the past 7 years, for good measure.

    Republicans are not helping with any of that. They’ve become part of the problem. They’re the enemies of the President who is waging war on the enemies of America. They’ve done everything they can to destroy support of his efforts and support for his administration. Even in connection with his efforts against ISIS. They can’t seem to legislatively address a single one of the nation’s problems, even having majorities in both the House and the Senate.

  13. 20



    How about arresting Obama, Hillary, Blumenthal, Roades (sp?) Jarret, and Huma for treason, and getting some responsible adults running foreign policy? That would be far more.effective than anything you have ever blathered about with your extreme left, anti-American insanity.

  14. 21



    You lying, deceitful, gasbag extreme leftists have ZERO right and absolutely NO credibility to be whining about opposition to Obama’s childishly wasteful use of US military force. How dare you, in another show of the totally contemptible essence of leftist dishonesty, say one damned word of complaint about opposition towards the use of force!

    I call you despicable scum for that post. You project your filthy, lying leftist motivations against conservatives, and you are either too stupid to realize the utter hypocrisy of your posts, or you know damned well what you are doing in which case you are serving anti-American evil.

    When Hillary was hollering about “dissent is patriotic” as she and the enter demomarxist cabal did everything they could to politically oppose our war efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan – putting leftist demogogery above the welfare of our military members and our nation – for no purpose other than their naked desire for advancing leftist extremism, there was no lie to big for you vile progressives to spew. How DARE you snivel about legitimate opposition to wasting US military resources in worthless, anemic air sorties?

    Damn you. Damn you and all leftists to hell.

  15. 23

    another vet

    @Richard Wheeler: Yep. No one here should even bother reading or responding to the left wing bullshit that Greg puts out. He gets off on the way he way he pushes people’s buttons. I wonder if he’d do it in person.

  16. 24


    @Richard Wheeler:

    @Pete: Chill Doc. You’re over the top.

    Why? Are you so used to conservatives/Republicans just rolling over when those in your party accuse Republicans of being scarier than Ebola and ISIS, when they are accused by a Democrat Congressman of being worse for capitalism than Al Qaeda or when the Republicans are nothing more than the worst Jim Crow racist?

    You are moot when Republicans are [falsely] slandered but when one of us fights back, then we are over the top?

  17. 25


    @Pete, #21:

    You lying, deceitful, gasbag extreme leftists have ZERO right and absolutely NO credibility to be whining about opposition to Obama’s childishly wasteful use of US military force. How dare you, in another show of the totally contemptible essence of leftist dishonesty, say one damned word of complaint about opposition towards the use of force!

    Yet here I am, explaining why the right is so out of touch with the facts of the situation that they’ve become a danger to the security of the nation, and backing up that assertion with factual information that nobody seems to want to acknowledge.

    Perhaps the truth is somewhere more toward the middle—I am, in fact, on the left—but it sure as hell isn’t that Obama is an enemy of the United States, that he has done nothing useful about ISIS, or that the U.S. military has been ineffective in carrying out his orders. I support the President’s actions against ISIS and al Qaeda. I’m not entirely clear about what republicans are supporting. It’s obviously not the President of the United States. Is there someone else who’s been doing more? Someone who has clearly articulated better ideas? I’m not aware of any such person.

  18. 26


    @Richard Wheeler:

    Don’t tell me to chill, nor accuse me for being over the top. I did three tours in those wars, lost good friends, and will NOT stand down while leftists, who threw every damned obstructive lie they could into our efforts – despite which we were successful – then for purely anti-American, leftist political purposes pulled out prematurely from Iraq thus setting the stage for the animals of ISIS to set up their evil.

    It is utterly contemptible and evil for the arrogant moron in the Oval Office to waste our military personnel and resources in such a pathetic, half-hearted poseur exercise in futility. If Obama even ONCE made a statement that he was devoting the full might of US military forces to the complete annihilation of ISIS, Al Qaeda, and the Taliban, I would give full-throated support. Hell, I would happily come out of retirement and volunteer to go back to provide medical care to the soldiers!

    But I will NOT stand by when some blowhard leftist agitprop artist has the damnable gall to claim republicans are stopping Obama from doing anything militarily to stop the evil of ISIS. It is the worthless Obama’s fault that ISIS exists, and his petulant refusal to commit to real war against his fellow travelling anti-American thugs precludez giving him support for wasting US military forces.

    Over the top, my ass….leftists don’t like having anyone stand up to their outrageous lies and deceit. Obama’s woefully inadequate, nay his NONEXISTENT capacity for leadership was glaringly displayed in his G20 press response when called out for his catastrophic failure at stopping ISIS. Thankfully, it seems that even the French are waking up.

  19. 27


    @Pete: To your point sir in order to get our military paid the Republicans had to blow the budget to get the POTUS to sign it.
    And abandoning the Middle eastern Christians in favor for Islamic “refugees” disgusting and bigoted. Obama only wants”permission” for what he is already doing, is because his non-strategy is failing, my goodness even CNN reported that.
    At this point we need a countdown clock,tear up his agreement with the Iran, save the Christians, back the Kurds. Continue to be honorable dear Patriot, dont allow the resident troll to give you a single grey hair. God Bless The USA.

  20. 29


    actually they arrived in the USA on tourist visas. Later they applied for refugee status becaus they were fighting communists@kitt:
    Kitt the Bible says that we must welcome and take care of strangers. If you don’t want to read through that long book just google it.
    15000 Americans are murdered each year that would be mostly christian on christian killings. Why not focus on that ? How many are killed each year by foreign jihadists?

  21. 30

    Nanny G

    So Obama touted his bombing of ISIS for over a year.
    Yet, look at this:
    The main mosque ISIS uses, the ISIS headquarters, the Sharia Islamic Court, the square where whipping and beheadings take place are all still in one piece!
    Obama waited until one guy was on a corner and hit him alone, not even touching the buildings on that street!
    Obama leaflets ISIS to warn them to get away first, too.

    Does the question not immediately arise in your mind why we would target a specific human enemy and yet leave perhaps hundreds of them alive and well to continue to conduct their war against us?

  22. 31

    Nanny G

    Obama’s State Department insists terrorists will be weeded out by a single in-person interview. That’s a joke. Each Syrian refugee selected by the UN for placement in our country is interviewed once by someone with just eight days of training on Syria.

    Interviewers — from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services — were ordered last May to relax the standards of who’s safe to let in.
    It is now OK if your spouse was part of a terrorist organization, provided you can convince the screener you didn’t know you were sleeping with a terrorist.
    It’s also OK to have a history of supporting a terrorist group yourself — as long as you felt pressured to do it.
    It doesn’t even have to be enough pressure to be considered “duress.”
    Then these ”refugees” are introduced to their ”charity” by State Dept.
    The charity settles them, gets them Food Stamps, welfare, health care, other benefits and signs up any children in the local schools.
    But the local and state authorities are cut out of the picture!
    They don’t even learn who they are or where they are!
    (Remember: Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal had to formally demand the information before learning 14 Syrians had just been placed there!)

  23. 32

    Common Sense

    @Greg: Greggie Greggie Greggie, given more thought to how Obola has failed our military and our veterans clearly more than you have. How did someone who served end up so stupid?? Average runs last 14 months by our air force=5 while Iraq was 1,000!! You can NOT tell me that we are doing our BEST to stop ISIS, that’s a bold face lie Greggie!! Experts say we do NOT have any acceptable strategy to destroy and degrade ISIS!! You whine like little punk that Republicans do nothing which is wrong of course. How many budgets have they passed and how many has Obola signed Greggie?? Tell what Obola has done to cooperate with Congress?? Try and understand what’s happening before you incoherently run off at the mouth.

  24. 33


    @john: Ok I have not used the bible or my beliefs to make any point, but yes I have read the book, and Why did Saul lose his kingship to David? I refuse to be guilted into submitting to bigots. Seems to me about 3000 were killed on 9/11.
    Secure Freedom has identified 146 U.S. court cases in which an attempt was made to use Shariah to decide the dispute. In one in five instances, the judge agreed. We expect those numbers to grow. And recently, a group of Muslims in northern Texas tried to establish the first official “Islamic tribunal” to dispense Shariah law in the United States.
    I dont want to see the US become the next Germany, where they wont defend women suffering domestic violence if the perp is Muslim. They dont assimilate they infiltrate.

  25. 35


    @Common Sense, #32:

    The facts concerning what has been accomplished since August 2014 are totally incompatible with the right wing’s tale that Obama’s ISIS strategy is totally ineffective.

    Have you been under the impression that a wounded rattlesnake can’t still bite? That’s the absurd unstated assumption that’s necessary to believe the Paris attacks are proof that ISIS has not been seriously damaged.

    Strategies are not ineffective because their objectives have yet to be fully achieved. You have to measure their effectiveness by what has been accomplished to date. In order to do that, you have to know what those accomplishments are.

  26. 36

    Common Sense

    @Greg: Wounded Rattle Snake bite?? I agree with you there, so why in the hell would the President of the US invite wounded rattle snakes into our home?? As I asked many times, do you really believe the US is giving this effort 100% to destroy and degrade ISIS?? Remember your president called them a JV Team of farmers and teachers and in 14 months they are stronger than when he said that?? You whine like a wounded rat about Republicans but with every wasted breath of oxygen you take Greggie you point your fingers at Republicans you prove a point about what a waste your are!! If Obola’s strategy was to degrade and destroy he has failed, in 14 months they are stronger than ever Greggie!!

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    @Common Sense, #36:

    I agree with you there, so why in the hell would the President of the US invite wounded rattle snakes into our home?

    He’s not. He’s offering to make a place for a small percentage of Syrian refugees fleeing the violence.

    Going after ISIS, we’re bombing their homeland. We’re reducing their cities and villages to rubble. The fact of the matter is that the count of innocent civilian casualties is probably very high. We’re insulated from that. We sit safely at home, watching on our televisions and arguing on the internet while war is waged on the other side of the world to protect our interests. Perhaps we have some moral obligation to help the innocent who are caught up in this?

    The risk to us as individuals is actually very small. Surely we can afford a small but meaningful gesture to humanity and compassion. That’s what makes our own ideology different from the one we hope to destroy.

  28. 38

    Common Sense

    @Greg: Greggie Greggie Greggie, what about our won homeless including veterans?? Tell me we don’t have a moral obligation to take care of them first Greegie!! Let’s carve out places for our won first!! Tell me Greggie, why is it that 72% of the Syrian refugees are military age males?? As you said a wounded rattle snake can still bite, if you feel such a moral obligation to import radical muslim terrorist then go there and take care of them. 31 states say they do NOT want them, why Greggie and explain why without blaming Republicans because that dog won’t hunt in reality!!

  29. 39


    This presents the situation as a false dilemma. In reality, it’s not as if we must make a choice between making a place for a refugee child or helping a homeless veteran. We are capable of doing both. These are not mutually exclusive options.

  30. 40

    Common Sense

    @Greg: Greggie we have NOT demonstrated the capability of taking care of Veterans now. You mention refugee children and mothers but reality is 72% of the Syrian refugees are military age men!! Should we care for them more than their own fathers Greegie!! BTW it’s not just the men who are the radical islamic terrorists, do you watch any real news??

  31. 41

    Paddy Huff

    @DrJohn: All part of a geocidal agenda, as Albert Pike, 33 degree mason planned fomenting Zionistic rule, with Christian and Muslims destroying each other.. Not so much unlike the parallel between the last Hunger Games, where instead of being ” SNOWED,” we should join forces directing these atrocities toward the source of these instigators; Bohemian Grovers, Bilderburgers, Illuminati and their false flags… God is a just God, and beside Judgement, is the Book of Deeds… It won’t be pretty, but have no fear, as our God will save the FAITHFUL, and that won’t be our government, who has forsaken our constitution…

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