If Obama closes Gitmo on his own, why not just release all the detainees?

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Barack Obama, undeterred by his failure at every aspect of foreign policy, is showing a sense of urgency to add another failure to his dark list.  Obama has directed the Pentagon to present a plan to close Gitmo to Congress this week:

WASHINGTON — The Pentagon’s plan outlining the long-stalled effort to close the Guantanamo Bay detention center, expected in the coming week, includes details suggesting that the Centennial Correctional Facility in Colorado is one suitable site to send detainees whom officials believe should never be released, administration officials said.

The plan represents a last-gasp effort by the Obama administration to convince staunch opponents in Congress that dangerous detainees who can’t be transferred safely to other countries should be housed in a U.S.-based prison.

Obama brashly promised that he would close Gitmo within one year of taking office. As they are so wont to do, the flacks at Politifact decided to rewrite that guarantee to avoid having to issue Obama  a promise broken:

Overall, it seems like Obama is making small but tangible progress on keeping this promise. However, a significant amount of work remains, and there are many restrictions on transfers still on the books, so we can only move the meter so far — from Promise Broken to Stalled.

With an ego that can be measured only in Astronomical Units, Obama will go to any length to escape the possibility of Gitmo being the albatross around his neck once he leaves office, regardless of the cost to the country. Presenting the plan to Congress is simply a perfunctory exercise. Obama made it clear that ultimately he doesn’t give a damn whether Congress goes along or not:

“I would not take anything off the table in terms of the president doing everything that he can to achieve this critically important national security objective,” White House spokesman Josh Earnest said this week, when asked whether Obama would act unilaterally. “And this is a pretty transparent case of the United States Congress putting narrow political interests ahead of national security.”

Gitmo still holds 112 detainees, 53 of which are eligible for transfer:

In order to approve a transfer, Defense Secretary Ash Carter must conclude that the detainees will not return to terrorism or the battlefield upon release and that there is a host country willing to take them and guarantee they will secure them.

The rest are “either facing trial by military commission or the government has determined that they are too dangerous to release but are not facing charges.” The rate of recidivism is high:

As of September 2012, 168 out of the 602 released Guantanamo Bay detainees are suspected of returning to terrorism.

Americans overwhelmingly oppose the transfer of the terrorists to US soil, but Barack Obama is not known for putting the concerns of Americans before his own. In recognition of this, Congress has passed veto-proof legislation determined to keep Obama from importing these terrorists into the US. Thus, Obama can once again be expected kick sand in the face of one of America’s properly elected governing bodies and whip out his pen and his phone. But let’s examine the motivation here. Obama:

“It is something that continues to inspire jihadists and extremists around the world, the fact that these folks are being held,” Obama said. “It is contrary to our values.”

Hold on a second. Holding them “inspires” jihadists and extremists? What is Obama going to do to change that? We’re still going to hold them. We’re going to hold them on US soil instead of in Cuba. If holding terrorists in Gitmo was an inspiration to extremists, holding them on US soil ought to put that on steroids. However, once they’re on US soil Obama can do all sorts of things, like put them under the aegis of his DOJ. That ought to send shivers down your spine. Phrases like “time served” and “good behavior” and “promise to appear” flow through the mind. If holding them is against our values, it suggests Obama has something else in mind. If Congress stymies Obama’s importation of detainees, he could well likely throw up his hands and say “Well, I’ve got no alternative but to release them.” Yes, Obama could just release them. The war on terror is over, right? Do I think Obama could really do this?

Why not?

As a gesture of his patriotism Obama did threaten to defund the US military if Congress did not capitulate to his demands to close Gitmo. And don’t forget that Obama insisted on an NDAA including indefinite detention of Americans. Apparently that’s not contrary to Obama’s “values.”

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15 Responses to “If Obama closes Gitmo on his own, why not just release all the detainees?”

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    Bringing the Gitmo detainees to Colorado is opposed by most residents of the state. The Centennial Correctional Facility (aka “Old Max”) was closed in 2012 due to a declining prison population. The state is sending convicts to private prisons or other states, which costs more, rather than house them. The Old Max facility was used as a solitary confinement facility for the most hardened before the state decided to keep them at New Max. The residents of Canon City where Centennial is located are steadfast in their opposition. What happens if one of them escapes? What happens if AQ or IS sympathizers come to Canon City and take hostages? It appears our idiot Dem governor, John Hickenlooper, is open to the idea of having them housed here in Colorado.

    It is a very, very bad idea.

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    Nanny G

    “It is something that continues to inspire jihadists and extremists around the world, the fact that these folks are being held,” Obama said. “It is contrary to our values.”

    The fastest growing conversion rate inside prison populations is to islam.
    I guess Obama wants these guys to be looked up to by any other prisoners so more prisoners will convert to Islam.
    That’s what happens.
    Even if a dude is in solitary the other prisoners are affected by his influence.
    In the UK Muslim prisoners are foregoing the friendly ”dawa” (evangelizing) and substituting the ”convert or die” command.
    That happened once the percent of Muslim prisoners passed 40%, btw.
    Obama combines his desire for more Muslim leaders imprisoned here with a shaky, non-principled freeing of felons over the next 14 months.
    He started with 6,000 felons on drug charges.
    What will be next?
    ”Peace-loving” Muslims?
    Who knows?

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    People who Religious, say that the Correct Way to Define Proper Conduct is with what is known as the Golden Rule.

    “Do to others as you would have them do to you” (Luke 6:31).

    All Countries want other Countries to Obey International Law for them, but many Catholic European Union Countries, and many Muslim Countries, think that they are Above the Law, and Above Human Norms.

    Muslim Turkey has a Kurdish Minority that wants Independence, because they do not have their own Country of Kurdistan, and there are over 5,000 Ethnic Groups on this Planet, but there are less than 200 Countries.

    Muslim Turkey does not want to give the Kurdish People their own Country, but Turkey wants to make Serbia’s Province of Kosovo become an Independent Country, and unlike the Kurds, the Albanians already have a Country called Albania, even though no one is objecting to them being in neighbouring Countries, and the UNESCO Vote on Kosovo will be a Test of who practices Proper Worthwhile Conduct.

    There are People who wonder why much of the European Union is the way it is, and it is because much of the European Union is dominated by Catholic Countries.

    “They claim to know God, but they deny him by what they do. They are detestable, disobedient, and unfit to do anything good” (Titus 1:16).

    Catholics and Muslims Know that Illegally changing borders, or Pressuring Nations to change their borders against their will is both a Sin against God and a Sin against People, and these things are Wrong even to Non Religious People who have a Conscience.

    “You shall not murder. You shall not commit adultery. You shall not steal. You shall not give false testimony against your neighbour. You shall not covet your neighbour’s house. You shall not covet your neighbour’s wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbour” (Exodus 20:13-17).

    “Cursed is he who moves his neighbour’s boundary mark. And all the people shall say, Amen” (Deuteronomy 27:17).

    “Do not move the ancient boundary which your fathers have set” (Proverbs 22:28).

    The Catholics have read the following Scriptures, and so they understand that God wants People to worship Him in the Boundaries of their Country, and in a non-racist manner.

    “And He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation, that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; for in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, For we also are His children” (Acts 17:26-28).

    Contrary to Euro-American Lies and Propaganda, it is Euro-America who is Guilty of the Balkans Wars, and Slobodan Milosevic and Serbia are Innocent, and the Article is Titled: Why Albanians Fled During NATO Bombing at http://www.antiwar.com/rep/jared3.html .

    Poland has a Catholic Government, and Turkey has a Muslim Government, and we will see if they and others will reflect Proper Worthwhile Conduct regarding the UNESCO Vote on Kosovo, and History has shown us that the Catholic Countries like Croatia, Germany, and others where the Most Guilty during WW 2, and Turkey should Confess to Committing Genocide on the Armenian People and on Greek People.

    Former Director-General of UNESCO Federico Mayor opposes Kosovo’s membership in UNESCO, and the News Article is on the B 92 Website, and it is Titled: Former UNESCO chief against Kosovo’s membership at http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2015&mm=10&dd=26&nav_id=95832 .

    The Ottoman Empire of the past, and Muslim Albanians of today have Proved what Europe will experience if they allow Catholicism and Islam to remain in the European Union at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Albania , and at http://www.savekosovo.org/default.asp .

    Wikipedia says: The United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) is a specialized agency of the United Nations (UN). Its purpose is to contribute to peace and security by promoting international collaboration through education, science, and culture to further universal respect for JUSTICE, the RULE OF LAW, and HUMAN RIGHTS along with fundamental freedom proclaimed in the United Nations Charter. It is the heir of the League of Nations’ International Committee on Intellectual Cooperation.

    The League of Nations ceased to function, and this lead to WW 2, because Many Countries were doing Exactly the same as the United Nations is doing today, and in the past it was Hitler and Mussolini and others, and today the Lawless ones are Anglo-America and many Catholic European Countries and several Islamic Countries.

    We know that WW 2 was only ended with the Deaths of the Lawless Hitler and the Lawless Mussolini, and if WW 3 is to be avoided, then Lawlessness must be Rejected by Countries of the United Nations .

    Albanians have driven away anyone who is not of their Race, and All of the Leaders of the World and UNESCO Know This at http://www.globalresearch.ca/kosovo-and-systematic-persecution-by-kla/14528 .

    The UNESCO Vote will Show who are Honest and who are Lawless, Worthless, and Good for Nothing, because if everyone was Honest, then there would not need to be an Organization like the United Nations.

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    @Comment: Anyone who quotes Wikipedia has serious issues with their thought process. I think if you look at real statistics on Europe, you will find that religion and religious populations have been on the decline since Europe embraced post modern philosophy. The issues are that Muslims want their country and religion to be the same. They do not see any difference. Christian and Jewish religions only want to be the conscience of government, not dictate government behavior. Remember this quote by Christ? “Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s and to God that which is God’s!” That applies to government in addition to funds. You need to spend a lot more time in the Middle East and Europe before you can make these broad comments. You also may want to spend some time with someone who studies the Biblical quotes you have made before you use them to support your skewed views on political issues.

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    Closing it isnt the issue, making a mess in which a response can be twisted to some advantage or malaise IS the point.. regardless of what he does or how bad it gets even up to a small nuclear conflict, he is safe as well as his family, so there really arent any limits to the bad he can do as none of it that means anything would reach him.

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    I doubt escape is a great concern, but terrorism on US soil to try and influence the ongoing incarceration of these degenerates certainly is.

    By the way, did that version of the NDAA ever become law?

    I have yet to see a single example where GITMO has been used as an excuse for recruitment of terrorists. This is a fantasy cultivated in the minds of liberals where there is an abundance of good fertilizer.

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    Moving the detainees to a land based facility will place all of the civilian employees and their families as well as their communities at risk to domestic terrorism. Gitmo provides a place that minimizes this!

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    Gitmo is the best recruiting ad that radical Islam has. Seen any orange jump suits being used as propaganda lately? If as Obama hoped they would have been tried in civil Federal Court in Manhattan KSM would not have contested the death penalty. Instead he now 7 years later is making a mockery of the military tribunals who do NOT want to convict him because the evidence is so tainted.
    Hostage taking in CO because that may be where they end up???? First of all they go to the Fed Super Max . Second no matter where they are there is a risk of hostage taking that includes Gitmo. As it is now you are already bowing to the fears of POSSIBLY having hostages taken by allowing THEM to control our policies
    I live in NYC
    I would be happy to have them tried and sentenced here.

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    Obama want’s to close Guantanamo, The rest of us don’t want them released, and nobody wants them in their state. Obama wants to do the same with “Syrian refugees”.

    I think I have a solution to both sides of the problem.

    We build a maximum security prison wall around Washington DC (which isn’t a state,) Move and release all those prisoners behind the wall, Then we close Guantanamo Bay. We also let all those “Syrian refugees” Obama wants, delivered there as well. That way Obama can have all those “peaceful” religious fanatics he likes so much in his happy-huggy “hope and change”land.

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