The great democrat Presidential primary debate: On Olden Pond

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DNC Chair Debbie Downer-Schultz is reportedly furiously trying to shield Hillary Clinton from exposure in debates. It’s been called a “Hillary Protection Plan” :

Following the first GOP debate, Democratic National Committee Chairman Debbie Wasserman Schultz disingenuously quipped to a reporter, “I sort of feel for my counterpart Reince Priebus because it’s pretty clear why they did everything they could to shrink the number of debates and shrink the exposure.”

You know who else shrunk the number of debates? Democrats. Wasserman Schultz seems to be telling us why: Hillary Clinton can’t handle the exposure.

Hillary Clinton won’t hold up well in debates and she and her cronies know it. Hillary is afraid to debate men. Nevertheless I, for one, say let it fly. Let’s have a grand democrat debate. I have an idea what it will look like.


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The collective age of potential candidates Clinton, Sanders, Biden and Warren is 278 years! It makes selection of the venue for a debate a simple matter.

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DNC Chair Wasserman-Schultz said organizers were planning on inviting Candy Crowley to moderate and having a prominent gerontologist on call. The winner will be the candidate who is still awake at the end of the evening.

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28 Responses to “The great democrat Presidential primary debate: On Olden Pond”

  1. 2

    Nanny G

    @Greg: Humor!
    Thank goodness!
    For a minute I thought your making sense on the gold/ISIS issue was going to lead you to admit these are all old white people of the heterosexual persuasion.
    But, seriously, they are all old shriveled peas in the same pod, aren’t they?

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    She can’t drive a car
    She can’t operate a fax
    She can’t add ( one blackberry plus one I-pad = one device)
    She can’t find WiFi
    She can’t find skim milk
    She doesn’t think the SoS gets classified information
    She’s a pure genius!

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    Your a paid shill, as its hart to believe someone is so stupid as to want administrative slavery as a solution to ills… even more so when you know the history has never ever panned out in over 200 years of the attempts…

    please at least be consistent… if your going to hate old white guys, guess who you are now loving? sanders? he is a stated communist… now, what do you think will happen if he wins and could remake the country the same as otehr such states?

    ever live under such? of course not… to you its just a variation on a theme that doesnt exist as you have never had to live someplace where the corruption was so bad you had to bribe people without fear of jail to get things done…

    why not move to such a place and experience it first and stop pushing things, unless your paid, then i understand completely your being a sell out…

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    People’s Democratic Republic of Algeria had it good, right greg?
    “the democratic and popular Algerian Republic will direct its activities toward the construction of the country in accordance with the principles of socialism”

    Socialist Republic of the Union of Burma
    “In order to overcome this deterioration and to build Socialism, the Revolutionary Council of the Union of Burma assumed responsibility as a historical mission, adopted the Burmese Way to Socialism

    Republic of Egypt / United Arab Republic / Arab Republic of Egypt
    “The Arab Republic of Egypt is a democratic, socialist state based on the alliance of the working forces of the people.

    Republic of Iraq
    “Its [the country’s] basic objective is the realization of one Arab State and the build-up of the socialist system.”

    Libyan Arab Republic / Great Socialist People’s Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
    “The aim of the state is the realization of socialism through the application of social justice which forbids any form of exploitation.”

    Democratic Republic of Sudan
    “In the belief of our pursuit of freedom, socialism and democracy to achieve the society of sufficiency, justice and equality,”

    Syrian Arab Republic
    The leading party in the society and the state is the Socialist Arab Ba’ath Party. It leads a patriotic and progressive front seeking to unify the resources of the people’s masses and place them at the service of the Arab nation’s goals.”

    why not move to one of these… (they dont exist any more)

    maybe greg can move to one of these?

    Alsace Soviet Republic (November 9–22, 1918)
    Asturian Socialist Republic (October 5–18, 1934)
    Azerbaijan People’s Government (November 1945 – December 1946)
    Bavarian Council Republic (April 6 – May 3, 1919)
    Saxony Soviet (November, 1918 – March 14, 1919) [36]
    Bessarabian Soviet Socialist Republic (May – September 1919)
    Socialist Republic of Chile (4 June – 2 October 1932)
    Chinese Soviet Republic (November 7, 1931 – September 22, 1937)
    People’s Revolutionary Government of the Republic of China (November 22, 1933 – January 13, 1934)
    Donetsk–Krivoy Rog Soviet Republic (February 12 – May 1918)
    Commune of the Working People of Estonia (November 29, 1918 – June 5, 1919)
    Finnish Socialist Workers’ Republic (January 28 – April 29, 1918)
    Finland Finnish Democratic Republic (December 1939 – March 1940)
    Galician Soviet Socialist Republic (July 8 – September 21, 1920)
    National Revolutionary Council of Gambia (July 30, 1981 – August 5, 1981)
    Free Socialist Republic of Germany (November 9, 1918 – August 11, 1919)
    Hunan Soviet (1927)
    Hungarian Soviet Republic (March 21 – August 6, 1919)
    People’s Republic of Korea (September 6, 1945 – February, 1946)
    Provisional People’s Committee for North Korea (February, 1946 – September 9, 1948)
    Limerick Soviet (April 15–27, 1919)
    Latvian Socialist Soviet Republic (December 17, 1918 – January 13, 1920)
    Lithuanian-Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic (February 27 – August 25, 1919)
    Republic of Mahabad (January 22 – December 15, 1946)
    Mughan Soviet Republic (March – June 1919)
    Soviet Republic of Naissaar (December 1917 – February 26, 1918)
    Odessa Soviet Republic (January 31 – March 13, 1918)
    Paris Commune (March 18 – May 28, 1871, first socialist republic in history)
    Persian Socialist Soviet Republic (June 9, 1920 – September 1921)
    Political Committee of National Liberation of Greece (March 10, 1944 – August 28, 1949)
    Provisional Revolutionary Government of the Republic of South Vietnam (June 8, 1969 – June 2, 1976)
    Slovak Soviet Republic (June 16 – July 7, 1919)
    Democratic Republic of Yemen (May 21 – July 7, 1994)
    Nghệ-Tĩnh Soviet (1930–1931)

    but wait.. they dont exist any more either

    I can list out lots more… but they dont exist any more and the people who were part of them suffered greatly from the people greg supports.

  5. 8


    Dr J aren’t you just about the same age as their average ?
    And what has happened to your prior fav. Young Scottie Walker???? Who you once called “the man Democrats fear most”??? His poll numbers have fallen into the cellar
    Now about that age thing
    Trump is older than all the Dems except Sanders
    Are you saying Trump is too old ???

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    @Artfldgr: yeah and I bet you have a pretty wet hole too
    You call Sanders a communist? Well you sound too me like one of those white supremacists that have always hated liberal JEWS and called them one slur or another
    You probably would have thought that we should have been on Hitlers side. When he invaded Russia
    You probably lived in abject fear of an invasion from Cuba
    Get your political views from Stormfront do yeah?

  7. 10


    Is artfulldidger some sort of john Bircher who still lives in a world filled with the fear of Communista!! Do you live in a world. Filled with unseen conspiracies that seek to control your life?
    Do you live in AZ with the rest of that ilk? Was that you in the pic of the Teapartier that was wearing the hat adorned with teabags??

  8. 11


    @drjohn: She was dead broke living on a couple hundred grand a year while her expenses and housing and travel were paid for by the taxpayers. Put that lady in charge of a multi-trillion dollar economy!

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    please at least be consistent… if your going to hate old white guys, guess who you are now loving? sanders? he is a stated communist… now, what do you think will happen if he wins and could remake the country the same as otehr such states?

    Sanders is a socialist, not a communist. In any case, no U.S. president is a maker of laws. That’s not how our constitutional government works.

    When it does work, that is. Lately the Legislative Branch has ceased to play it’s constitutionally-defined role in governance. They haven’t done much of anything lately but monkey-wrenching the machinery of government and shoveling sand into the gears. Back from their month-long paid vacation, they may soon turn their attention to causing another enormously expensive government shutdown. I’ve pretty much had it with their party’s childishness and ineffectiveness, and I’ve most certainly had my fill of their tantrums.

    I’d probably vote for Sanders before anyone the GOP appears ready to offer. I’d certainly vote for Sanders before considering Donald Trump. Sanders has a long history of philosophical integrity and steadiness on positions. I know what he cares most about and appreciate his candor. Trump in the Oval Office would be like spinning the Wheel of Fortune on every issue.

  10. 15


    @Greg: Will wonders NEVER cease? You’d vote for Sanders. In related news, reliable studies have shown the Pacific Ocean to be moist!

    Given that it is too early, except in some precincts of Chicago to cast a vote, I like most sentient voters, will decide upon my vote closer to the first Tuesday in November ’16.

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    @Greg: In any case, no U.S. president is a maker of laws. That’s not how our constitutional government works.

    When it does work, that is. Lately the Legislative Branch has ceased to play it’s constitutionally-defined role in governance. They haven’t done much of anything lately but monkey-wrenching the machinery of government and shoveling sand into the gears.

    In the current (not just any) case, our US President is all too happy to be a “maker of laws”, by using his “pen and a phone” to push through whatever he likes. Examples not limited totally to but inclusive of, his Executive Order on Illegal Immigrant Amnesty, the parliamentary tricks necessary to pass and then his appallingly unconstitutional rewrite of the ACA, his executive but by no means binding upon any succeeding administration nuclear weapons development “deal” with the mullahs of Iran he has proven to be just what you say he can’t.

    Worse yet is your stupid characterization as to what the legislature is constitutionally empowered to do. Given that the legislature is first of all a co-equal branch of the government, in a system the framers referred to as “checks and balances”, they are constitutionally enabled to “shovel sand into the gears”. The house is heavily opposition party controlled and the Senate by a slim majority, and the”Monkey-Wrenching the machinery of government” is what “We the People”duly elected them to do.

    If the President expects the legislature to sign on to his vision, he must do a better job of leading. Like actually showing some leadership. Ramming unpopular initiatives down the throats of the populace and the co-equal branch of the government is not leading, and anyone with eyes to see can perceive it.

  12. 17

    Nanny G

    @Me: I like most sentient voters……..

    The Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF) has put 141 counties on notice across the United States that they have more registered voters than people alive. PILF has sent 141 statutory notice letters to county election officials in 21 states. The letters are a prerequisite to bringing a lawsuit against those counties under Section 8 of the federal National Voter Registration Act (NVRA).

    The letters inform the target counties that it appears they are violating the NVRA because they are not properly maintaining the voter rolls. The NVRA (also known as Motor Voter) requires state and local election officials to properly maintain voter rolls and ensure that only eligible voters are registered to vote. Having more registrants than eligible citizens alive indicates that election officials have failed to properly maintain voter rolls.

    States with counties which received a notice letter are (# of counties): Michigan (24), Kentucky (18), Illinois (17), Indiana (11), Alabama (10), Colorado (10), Texas (9), Nebraska (7), New Mexico (5), South Dakota (5), Kansas (4), Mississippi (4), Louisiana (3), West Virginia (3), Georgia (2), Iowa (2), Montana (2), North Carolina (2), Arizona, Missouri, New York (1 each).

    I wonder if all these imaginary voters are ”sentient?”

  13. 20


    @Me, #15:

    Will wonders NEVER cease? You’d vote for Sanders.

    Indeed, I would cast a presidential vote for an ethical, articulate, position-consistent socialist before I’d vote for a game show host who has been about as consistent on serious national issues as a weather vane.

    Donald Trump is following the media memes and punching the buttons that light up. He’s telling his target audiences whatever they want to hear, no matter how improbable or how inconsistent with his past positions. That transparent nonsense has given the guy a 14 point lead on his closest republican competitor.

    The reaction of FOX News has been interesting. I think it might be slowly dawning on them that they have created their own Frankenstein monster, and it’s gone totally out of control. Their effort to put it down in the first Republican Debate backfired. It only got stronger. Now it’s stalking the countryside, stomping on former republican hopefuls like bugs.

    @Me, #19:

    Name three times when your preferred retarded worldview EVER worked on a Macro scale.

    You don’t actually know what my world view is. Your understanding of people holding opposing views is a caricature drawn by right-wing propagandists.

  14. 21


    @Greg: When did I ever suggest that I support the Donald? Trump is not running unopposed on the Repub side.

    As far as being articulate, that is a prerequisite for a politician. Ethical in that he has not been censured or charged with anything is a low bar to clear, but it seems he has. Perhaps he has been position-consistent, but being consistently wrong does not make him a candidate most people would support.

    I have a very good idea of your world view, because I have read your comments. Your description of my understanding of others is at best evasive, and also completely incorrect.

  15. 22


    He’s may not be running unopposed, but he’s certainly trampling the opposition. Can the GOP bring him down? It’s going to require an organized assist from conservative media. Even if they manage it, it won’t be like a hard reboot of the system. They won’t be able to return to a pre-Trump state. There’s also danger that a too-obvious setup may backfire again, solidifying support for a third party effort.

  16. 23


    @Greg: Rumors of the opposition’s death are greatly exaggerated, to paraphrase Mark Twain. Trump may have a healthy lead now, but the national convention is still roughly a year away.

    A lot can happen in that window. Trump may polish his skills, another candidate may present a challenge through the debate cycle, or Trump may simply flame out. Far too early to predict which of these, or any one of myriad other scenarios, might occur.

    Again you make baseless assertions regarding the follow-on ramifications of Trump. He’s leading in polls right now, but the notion that he has irretrievably transmogrified the GOP into something from which they’ll never recover seems quite overheated.

    He has tapped into a deep disaffection many in the voting populace seem to feel. He is articulating the frustrations of many people who are opposed to the agenda of the current administration, (and of a subsequent administration that seems likely to drift even further left). The RNC should be taking note of this, as any candidate who desires a successful run will need to be cognizant of this attitude.

    For Trump, I think his bombastic delivery and thin-skinned, petulant lashing out at any reporter who fails to pay him sufficient homage will be his undoing. I don’t think his presence taints the pool for any other candidates, and I think he’ll sink fast enough that a third party run will be such an obviously losing proposition his ego will not allow him to continue.

    Time will tell.

  17. 25



    You need to be more worried about your own party than the GOP. What, exactly, have you got? An ancient Socialist who is tromping a woman whose problems with ServerGate is going to get even more severe as more of her lackeys please the 5th. Oh, and a couple of guys whose name no one can recall.

    With the ancient Socialist, you’ve already lost the Blue Dogs. And the black vote is not going to turn out in numbers like they did for Obama. They’ll just stay home. You might recruit some first generation Hispanics for the Bern, only because of the Socialist view points of their immigrant parents, but that number will also be limited.

    Basically, the DNC is recycling because you can’t come up with one, new, fresh face.

    The Democrat Party has turned into the old white party.

  18. 26


    In addition to alienating female, Hispanic, black, gay, and young voters as groups, you’re now going to start making disparaging comments about old white people?

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    In addition to alienating female, Hispanic, black, gay, and young voters as groups, you’re now going to start making disparaging comments about old white people?

    That’s pretty funny, Greggie Goebbels, after all the “age” related adverse comments the left made about John McCain.

    And really? Alienating Hispanics? How many Hispanics are running as candidates for POTUS on the Democratic side? Is Elizabeth Warren going to throw her hat in the ring claiming she was wrong and she’s not Native American, she’s really Hispanic? How many blacks do you have? Young (at least under 65)? One?

    Do you never tire of being a parrot?

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