Flopping Aces Republican Debate Open Thread!

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Let’s hear what you have to say about tonight’s debate! It ought to be entertaining. I am really curious to see how Donald Trump behaves in an environment he cannot control and he can’t bully anyone who disagrees with him.

His head could explode.

So what do you think?

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@Rich Wheeler: Right after you tell us what you’re picking cruz for.

@Rich Wheeler:

Thanks 05 and RT Keep going to MFA I appreciate it,

Have never been to their website. Don’t intend to give them the web traffic.

Yeah these undercover folks are making 10 bucks an hour big money Great people.

Really? That’s not what their Form 990 says. It says they (in 2013) paid out $565,983.00 in salaries to 20 people. Want to do the math? Even allowing for a 40 hour work week, that comes to $13.605 an hour. And that over 1/2 million bucks doesn’t include Matthew Allen Rice’s salary of $46,350.00 annually for a 40 hour work week. That comes to $22.28 an hour for Rice.

That figure doesn’t take in the $280,044.00 they paid out in “contract” labor to people who they collected no income taxes or Social Security from.

And let’s not forget that those “volunteers” were also being paid by the farms they were working for when they made their clandestine videos, as they allowed animal cruelty to continue, even, as you say, participated in it, so they could create “Farm to Fridge” after claiming they were not only experience in farm work but were veterans, as well.

Yeah, great group you’ve hitched your wagon to, Rich.

@retire05:

Thanks 05 and RT Keep going to MFA I appreciate it,

Oh, they have a web site?

This is the report on the Conklin Farm case in the prosecution of Billy Joe Gregg, Jr., the man who was abusing the animals the MFA videographer made the film about:

MFA testimony

Smith reportedly told law enforcement that he did not witness any abuse by Conklin, and that Conklin did not know of the abuse by Gregg.

It was the intent of Mercy for Animals — the pro-vegan organization that produced the film — to prove that the farm owner knew what was happening and allowed it to continue.

“What we need to determine was not only that the cruelty was ongoing and outstanding, but we needed to verify for law enforcement, who knew about it, who was involved in it, how much the owner (Conklin) knew, if he was involved — that’s the reason the investigation went on so that we could provide everything,” said MFA Director of Investigations, Daniel Hauff, the day Gregg was arraigned.

Charge the activists?

Union County Prosecuting Attorney David Phillips said the grand jury also considered charges against MFA and Smith, whose videotaping of the abuse spanned about a four-week period. Smith told deputies he also had kicked animals and poked them with a pitchfork.

“He (Smith) claimed he did so to maintain his cover, and said he didn’t use his full strength,” Phillips said in a released statement. “The investigator told me that MFA was aware of the abuse, since he reported to them on a daily (basis). MFA allowed the abuse to continue, unreported, and the animals to suffer at the hands of Billy Joe Gregg.”

So you got it, Redteam? The MFA spook allowed animal cruelty to continue for FOUR WEEKS never contacting the owner, the Human Society or law enforcement.

These are the people Rich is out there marching in gay parades for. These are the people Rich gives money to. The people he hand out flyers for. The people who produce the t-shirt he dons. People that would allow animal cruelty to continue for a month just to try to nail the owner who they admitted did not conduct in animal cruelty himself nor know about the employee who did.

@retire05: That’s about the way I figured it would be. Those people are in it to get publicity so they can raise money. That is their sole intent. If they can make more money by killing cows, obviously they would do that. If I walked outside and saw a neighbor using a pitch fork to herd a cow, the first thing I would tell him would be to stop it. I would not go and get a camera to film it so that I could prove he was doing it. Then if he didn’t stop it, I would call the police. There is not a circumstance where I would let it go on for 4 minutes, for damn sure not for 4 weeks. And I would not go over and take the pitchfork and give him a few pokes just to keep him doing it til the police got there.
The more I hear about this organization the more I realize what a sham it is. How many suckers a day do these people rope in?

Maybe Rich and his gang can round up a few cows to use in their next parade to make sure people know how cows are being treated. Just give each rainbow flag waver a pitch fork and they can move the cows along at a speedy pace.

Did they ultimately find Smith and MFA guilty of mistreating animals?

Thanks again guys Really appreciate your imput and support for MFA and the animals, Agree with you 05 that they are a great group of dedicated young people. Pass the word, Great image of RT running down the street carrying a pitchfork–good stuff
Have a great weekend

@Redteam:

Did they ultimately find Smith and MFA guilty of mistreating animals?

No, the prosecutor thought about it, but he did not although he was upset that the abuse had gone on so long with out Jason Smith, the undercover guy, allowed the abuse to go on for so long, The guy who was also abusing the cattle got 8 months in jail and a heafty fine and can no longer work around animals.

@Rich Wheeler: So it’s definite now that you are going with Cruz for Potus? Okay, what odds? I understand you’re betting $100 on Cruz and I’m going with NO on Cruz. That sound like what you have in mind? Let me know when you have it set up with AV to hold our money.

@Rich Wheeler:

Democrats are big on “evolving” and the Democratic party has been steadily “evolving” farther and farther into the radical left fringe. So far have they evolved that they have driven all moderate and conservatives out of the party. Just as the RINO Republican leadership has caused the GOP management to “evolve” to leftist progressiveness and leave it’s base, so has the Democratic party.

Besides, it is well known that many people will shift from leftist to conservative as they grow older. It’s entirely possible that, (having seen the damage done to this nation by the hard turn to the “progressive” left that the Washington D.C. Leadership elitists of both parties have taken,) that “the Donald” has “evolved” into taking a more considerably conservative stance.

I will continue to wait and see what develops before I consider whom to vote for.

@retire05: Thanks for clarifying that 05. One of many great MFA success stories .Please post some more if you got the chance. Thanks

@Redteam: Yeah I saw where you took Bernie Sanders for POTUS. I doubt if he’ll even win nom.
Cruz will win Repub .nom over Trump. Not sure if he beats the actual Dem, nom but I’ll take him for $100 over your pick Sanders–I’ll see if AV wants to hold the bet.
PS Glad you finally picked someone.lol

@Rich Wheeler:

Thanks for clarifying that 05. One of many great MFA success stories .Please post some more if you got the chance. Thanks

You seem to have resorted to dealing in sarcasm now.

In spite of MFA claiming coup over the case, Billy Joe Gregg, Jr. was not prosecuted due to the actions of MFA and Jason Smith, who was also under investigation for participating in animal cruelty for an entire month, but due to the cooperation between the farm owner and the prosecuting attorney.

I find it appalling that you could condone the abuse of animals for a month by a MFA lackey if it produced a video that would advance their agenda, which, if you were honest, would put all farm production related to animals out of business. No scrambled eggs for elderly patients, no milk for babies and children, no cheese. Like the radical anti 2nd Amendment loons, you and your bunch of gays would force everyone to live by their radical rules of diet.

But I’m glad to know that you supported the continued abuse of animals so long as the video could be obtained. It only give credence to the fact that you are a fraud, an agenda driven fraud.

@retire05: I agree with you that it was unfortunate that in this expose the undercover whistle blower had to participate IF even briefly. Not always necessary, but it brought attention to the attrocities being committed and got them STOPPED. These undercover “stings” are happening nationwide and abusers, both owners and employees, are being busted. There is no humane slaughter.
Shine The Light on animal cruelty— Watch Farm To Fridge Thanks again 05 for bringing this work to the attention of F.A. viewers. Think all would agree these undercover whistle blowers are doing a great job.
“The greatness of a nation and it’s moral progress can be judged by the way it’s animals are treated.” Gandhi

@DittoThoughtful response. Thank you.

@Rich Wheeler:

I agree with you that it was unfortunate that in this expose the undercover whistle blower had to participate IF even briefly.

One day is briefly. Two days would be considered “briefly.” A month, four weeks, is not “briefly” by any stretch of the imagination. It is collusion. Jason Smith should have been prosecuted for not reporting on-going criminal activity.

But it is clear you are of the opinion that the ends justify the means, even if animals have to suffer illegal abuse for a month and even if a member of a group, that claims to want to stop the abuse of animals as its goal, continues not only to allow the abuse to happen but actually participates in said abuse.

No surprise that you, who does nothing to help animals, like adopting pound puppies, would support the disgraceful actions of MFA for the sole purpose of trying to condemn an innocent farm owner.

Think all would agree these undercover whistle blowers are doing a great job.

Yeah, allowing animals to be abused for a month and not reporting that abuse to the proper authorities is a “great job” in your book. But not mine. Sorry, but the end did not justify the means in this case. Both you, and your group, are frauds.

@Rich Wheeler:

Sorry that doesn’t work. I did not and do not take Sanders, My pick is Not Cruz

Needs to be clear. You are taking Cruz for Potus (not for nom)
I am taking ‘NOT Cruz’ for Potus.

So be sure that’s what you’re putting your money on.

You seem to be fairly confused, is that why you’re not sure when you’re waving your rainbow flag, exactly what that means? I’ll go with that, makes it simpler.

I’m sure you’re disappointed that there is no Dim that you can pick to win the POTUS, but I’m actually ok with that.

@Rich Wheeler:

had to participate IF even briefly.

that must be a new definition for briefly. A month. 4 minutes would be briefly, not 4 weeks. As 05 says it fits your fund raising agenda so it is ok. So is MFA going to change their slogan to: “It’s okay to mistreat animals as long as it helps our fundraising’? ”
I can’t figure out the mentality of these gayfornians. They march in gay parades but claim to not be gay, they promote cruelty to animals as long as it helps them raise money to promote the gay life style.
I guess there’s really no reason for any confusion, just say “It’s Gayfornia”

@Rich Wheeler:

Think all would agree these undercover whistle blowers are doing a great job.

More delusion. Do you think there are less animals being slaughtered today than there was 5 years ago? By your own definition all slaughtering is inhumane but the number of animals being slaughtered today is more than it was 5 years ago, so tell us again how these uncover criminals are doing a great job.
If the truth were known, they are likely going in and causing the inhumane treatment just so they can get a photo where likely no inhumane treatment was occurring.
That’s like setting up a prostitution sting or drug sting. Induce someone to break a law so you can benefit.
Just from my observations of ‘charities’ and ‘do gooder’ organizations, they are in it for the money. Rich, you have done a good job of verifying this is very likely the case for MFA.

RT AND o5 I thank you again for bringing attention to the heroic work undertaken by these undercover whistle blowers. at these slaughter houses.I’m sure you feel the same about the folks who exposed what Planned Parenthood was doing.
We are thankful these people are Shining the Light on all abusers of sentient life.

Semper Fi to those American heros who took down that potential mass killer in France

@Redteam: This is not a one against 20+ bet.RT
One against one for POTUS–common sense
I’ll take Cruz–you said you liked Sanders? Would you rather pick SOMEONE else– How bout the leader-=Trump. I SHOULD get about 3-1 odds but I’ll take Cruz straight up for $100–you in?
You could take the Vegas favorite HRC if you prefer.

@Rich Wheeler:

RT AND o5 I thank you again for bringing attention to the heroic work undertaken by these undercover whistle blowers. at these slaughter houses.I’m sure you feel the same about the folks who exposed what Planned Parenthood was doing

Big difference, Rich. The PP whistle blowers didn’t take jobs at PP clinics, take money in salary, and then encourage illegal/immoral behavior like the MFA goons did.

And you must be smoking crack. I’m not “bringing attention to the heroic work undertaken by these undercover whistle blowers”. I’m pointing out their absolute dishonesty and collusion in the mistreatment of animals. Now, if you think their actions, abusing animals for the sake of producing a misleading video” is an honest endeavor, there is something not firing on all cylinders in your head.

Of course, everything you have said from the “$10/hour” lie to admitting the MFA “whistle blowers” actually participated in animal cruelty for the purpose of advancing Runkle’s agena, has been helpful in showing this group up for the deceitful bunch you are.

@retire05: Frame it as you like but “the goons” are the abusers going to jail and the owners having their houses of slaughter shut down–thankfully happening nationwide.

@Rich Wheeler:

RT AND o5 I thank you again for bringing attention to the heroic work undertaken by these undercover whistle blowers

You are truly changing the definition of ‘heroic’. So these people that are killing and torturing animals just so they can get it on film and raise money are ‘heros’? Are you sure they don’t need to be in prison?

I’m sure you feel the same about the folks who exposed what Planned Parenthood was doing.

Can you direct me to any films they made about planned parenthood where they went in and worked for PP and participated in killing babies and dismembering them? That shows it can be done without ‘participating’ in the acts you ‘claim’ to abhor.

@Rich Wheeler: Ok, so you’re putting up 300 to my 100, you get Cruz and I get Trump. We split the pot if neither one wins. Those terms, I’m in. Set it up.

@Rich Wheeler:

and the owners having their houses of slaughter shut down–thankfully happening nationwide.

That has to be liberal socialist think. Are you saying that slaughterhouse got shut down? I don’t believe it. The guy operating it wasn’t convicted of anything. So you’re saying that MFA has shut down a significant number of slaughterhouses? Give us an estimate. How many cows were not butchered as a result? Last time I looked the meat case at Walmart was full. They are not having a beef shortage.

What is this new morality that it’s okay to torture animals if someone is filming it? So is it okay to rape a woman as long as someone is filming it so they can get a conviction? I couldn’t join an organization that advocates torturing and cruelty to animals just so they can film it for fund raising. I haven’t read the MFA mission statement, but I’m gonna guess that they left that little tidbit out.

Footnote: I just re-read the story. The operation was not fined nor shut down. All employees were required to be retrained (see a film). Seems as if the only crimes committed were by MFA.

@Redteam: Obviously Trump is favored–he’s at 23% to Cruz 7%-but if you want Trump–you love the jackass- you can bet it straight up 100 for POTUS. if NEITHER WINS NO BET
If you want we can make a straight bet on the Repub nom as well.

@Rich Wheeler:

Frame it as you like but “the goons” are the abusers going to jail

Au contraire. Jason Smith committed, and admitted he committed, animal abuse. He has not been sent to jail for his crime.

and the owners having their houses of slaughter shut down

And what slaughter houses have been shut down specifically due to the actions of MFA? I can find some that were shut down because of another animal rights organization, but not MFA?

Oh, that’s right, Redteam already asked you that question and you are dodging it.
No surprise.

@Rich Wheeler: It’s obvious you don’t want to bet. Every thing you propose that I go along with then you want to change it. You certainly are not swayed by Trump being favored since you are absolutely positive he can’t win.

@retire05: Yes, he’s been trying to say that slaughtering is reduced because of their activities and all I can find says slaughtering is up every year. Just a point, him talking about that slaughterhouse being shut down. It wasn’t a slaughterhouse, it was a dairy.
O5, do you think MFA has it in their mission statement that they support cruelty to animals as long as they can film it and make money off of it?

@Redteam:

O5, do you think MFA has it in their mission statement that they support cruelty to animals as long as they can film it and make money off of it?

Of course not. Deception and deceit are the cornerstones of groups like MFA. Unfortunately, there are enough useful idiots like Rick to keep them funded.

One of Rich’s MFA boys, Jason Smith, abused cattle. Smith admitted to abusing cattle. But Rich justifies the abuse by claiming that the means justifies the end. That’s like Jack the Ripper claiming he was justified in killing women because he was a student of the female anatomy.

@Redteam: You are absolutely clueless when it comes to how betting works–that may be a good thing. Better you remain a virgin than get hustled. We have no bet. You can just root for your guy Trump if you chose.

@retire05: Do you think I care which animal rights organization shuts down slaughter houses– Kudo’s to whoever gets the job done.
Did Smith go to jail? Did at least one of abusers go to jail–you said he did 8 months.
All I know is the video converts carnists to vegetarians/vegans–a good thing for animals, for individuals health and for the environment–yes IMO the ends justify the means.

@Rich Wheeler: I accepted the bet as you laid it out. That blew your mind because you weren’t expecting me to take it. You have no choice but to renege. I understand you don’t want to be a loser.

@Rich Wheeler:

yes IMO the ends justify the means.

So rape would be okay as long as they videoed it to catch the perpetrator?

@Rich Wheeler:

All I know is the video converts carnists to vegetarians/vegans

You are delusional. I thought you said the objective of the video is to convict people for cruelty to animals. Make up your mind.

@Redteam:

From what I have read here, it seems to me that this MFA messaging is simply more leftist “ends justifies the means” propaganda to lead people by their emotions. I find that kind of political button-pushing loathsome.

The problem with those who continually utilize such manipulation to further their political agendas, is that they eventually lead their followers straight into emotionally fueled fascism.

@Redteam: Sorry I confused you when I mentioned Trump was a 3-1 favorite over Cruz.
The proposed bet is simple. You take Trump, I take Cruz $100. KISS. Are you in or out?

Re Undercover videos—-Different videos– different individual slaughter house stings.–These are presented to local law enforcement for potential prosecution..
” Farm To Fridge” which you’ve seen.. is shown primarily to small groups or individuals to make them aware of the atrocities of modern day factory farming. It is often the first step in VIEWERS abstaining from meat and dairy products.

@Ditto: The videos have absolutely nothing to do with politics.
Compassion, Health, Sustainable environment—-all positive apolitical goals Ditto

@Rich Wheeler:

Do you think I care which animal rights organization shuts down slaughter houses– Kudo’s to whoever gets the job done.

So your inference that MFA is responsible for the shuttering of many slaughter houses then when pressed for a list of those slaughtering houses, you can provide no list so you now generalize instead of backing up your previous claim? Really, Rich? And you think others will simply accept that obfuscation?

Did Smith go to jail? Did at least one of abusers go to jail–you said he did 8 months.

You have repeatedly promoted a video that was produced due to the abuse of cattle perpetrated by a MFA “investigator” and you don’t know the position of the players and who went to jail? Are you feigning ignorance or just are really that ill informed?

So we now have a new standard for your movement; if only one abuser goes to jail, that is sufficient. But if one of the abusers was actually a clandestine MFA operative, and did not go to jail for his participation in animal cruelty, that also in fine with you.

All I know is the video converts carnists to vegetarians/vegans–a good thing for animals, for individuals health and for the environment–yes IMO the ends justify the means.

Ah then, now we are getting to the true agenda. As with any leftist movement, the goal is never really transparent. Same with your MFA movement. The real goal is to put all production of animal products out of business to comport with your personal beliefs. You don’t believe in using animal products (although you are more than happy to house leather furniture) but since you can’t convince the majority of the nation to adopt your beliefs, you go after the producers, going so far as to actually support participation in the very actions/crimes that you claim to abhor.

Deceptive, deceitful, and dictatorial. There has never been a dictator that did not claim the means justified the end result. Same with your animal “rights” groups that cloak their true goals in the name of “humanity.” I’m actually surprised you have not found a way to claim, as all leftist do, “it’s for the children.”

I have called you a fraud. I have called MFA a fraud. You just confirmed it. All of you participate in a shell game, cloaking the real agenda by telling everyone to look in another direction. The “issue” is not the real issue.

@Rich Wheeler:

” Farm To Fridge” which you’ve seen.. is shown primarily to small groups or individuals to make them aware of the atrocities of modern day factory farming

But the film is misleading, at best. It was designed for maximum shock value and to infer that the incidents were common place, which they are not.

. It is often the first step in VIEWERS abstaining from meat and dairy products.

Which, after all, is the true agenda. End the animal products industry by any means possible, even if it means participating in animal cruelty and misleading the general public about that industry.

Deception and deceit are the cornerstones of all left wing totalitarian movements.

@retire05: And you’re a proud right wing political hack.
Everything is not about politics– Take a breather for The Sabbath.

@Rich Wheeler:

And you’re a proud right wing political hack.

I am a Christian, core, Constitutionalist conservative. No surprise you would consider that position as being one of a hack.

I understand you are upset. You have been exposed. Anyone who participates in a false presentation usually gets upset when exposed. But in post #337, you finally, perhaps inadvertently, confessed to the true goal of the Cult of Animal Rights movement that you so vehemently support, both emotionally and financially.

Radical animal rights groups like MFA never reveal their true agenda which is, as with all left wing groups, about control. Present a false meme( the rampant animal cruelty in the animal products industry) by all means necessary including those that are falsely presented, and you create outrage based on lies. Your group, MFA, is no different that the #BlackLivesMatter bunch that was born out of the #Hands Up, Don’t Shoot movement that was based on lies.

But you did produce interest in your activities and the group you associate with and that generated research that found the group to not use one damn dime of its $3,000,000.00 coffers to actually save one animal from abuse. You said that the workers make $10/hour, and that was a falsehood. You refuse to clear up how Runkle supports himself, being a farm boy from the Midwest, yet have inferred that you know him well. Most Midwestern farmers are not rich enough to support their radical son’s lifestyle. You also inferred that MFA was responsible for the closing down of slaughter houses, but quickly ran from that claim when asked “Which ones?”. You claim to care about animals, and the ending of abuse of them, but park your saggy butt on a leather chair with two pure-bred dogs at your feet. No pound puppies for the arrogant Rich Wheeler. No siree. Only pure-bred dogs, whose mothers were raped (using your benchmark) to produce them, are good enough for Rich Wheeler. Unfortunately for you, and MFA, the curtain has been pulled back on the Wizard.

Everything is not about politics–Take a breather for The Sabbath.

Actually, your movement is all about politics. That is why it lobbies state legislatures for its cause.

The Sabbath was yesterday.

@Rich Wheeler:

The videos have absolutely nothing to do with politics.

Of course they’re political. Don’t be disingenuous, it hurts your argument.

@Rich Wheeler:

The proposed bet is simple. You take Trump, I take Cruz $100. KISS. Are you in or out?

While that sounds simple, nothing is simple with you. Even if I said yes, you would come back and say that you had said something else. So until you figure out who you want and the conditions, I’ll just wait.

” Farm To Fridge” which you’ve seen.. is shown primarily to small groups or individuals to make them aware of the atrocities of modern day factory farming. It is often the first step in VIEWERS abstaining from meat and dairy products.

Yes, I did watch that some time back and my primary thoughts about it was that it was a propaganda film, made for a specific agenda. I had no thoughts of giving up meat eating.
Now, knowing that the people that are doing the cruelty to the animals are employees of MFA, it changes my attitude considerably as in ‘they should be locked up because they are only doing it to swindle people out of money. Pretending as if the message is about animals when the real message is ‘send us your money so we can keep torturing these animals. Sounds as if the whole MFA crowd needs to be in a penitentiary.

@Rich Wheeler:

The videos have absolutely nothing to do with politics.
Compassion, Health, Sustainable environment—-all positive apolitical goals Ditto

Rich, you’re not serious? It’s ALLLL about politics and money.

@Rich Wheeler: Now I know why you are concerned about the slaughter of animals. You are one of the sheep being led. It’s hard to understand why some people are so easily led. That’s why dictator’s can exist, I guess. It’s easier to let someone else do the thinking for you. All they have to do is put together a little video, which we now know is a planned production video with hired actors by the same dictator whose sole intent is to film the mistreatment of animals, by their hired actors, then play it for a few bleeding hearts that are just dying for a leader to ‘show them the way’. For all we know, the ‘slaughter houses’ are only rented theaters filled with paid actors putting on a performance. The goal. to bilk the bleeding hearts out of their money.
I never thought of you that way, but now it’s clear that you are a tool.

RT AND 05 Your concern about the ‘staging’ of these undercover whistle blower videos documenting animal abuse in factory farms and slaughter houses is understandable. Actors, animals and slaughter houses hired and rented to STAGE the illegal atrocities? Really
I’ve heard some say the holocaust killing of 6 million Jews never happened or was staged for propaganda purposes. I’d say you gotta be a true conspiracy buff to buy either of those scenarios.
Wait We’re dealing with RT here—got it.
BTW Have you figured out that simple $100 Prez. bet yet?—I got Cruz you got Trump–no conspiracies You in?

@Rich Wheeler:

RT AND 05 Your concern about the ‘staging’ of these undercover whistle blower videos documenting animal abuse in factory farms and slaughter houses is understandable. Actors, animals and slaughter houses hired and rented to STAGE the illegal atrocities?

I never said that. What I did say, and you seem unable to grasp, is that the “undercover whistle blowers” participated in animal cruelty themselves, in order to produce their misleading video. Something you admitted they did. I also said they did not notify the proper authorities, which they are required by law to do. All for the sake of producing a misleading video. Consequently, those “whistle blowers” who participated in abuse, and failed to notify the proper authorities of the abuse committed by others, should have been prosecuted to the fullest extend of the law.

But you have already said that the means justified the end. That’s just flat out sick and says more about you than anything has.

@Rich Wheeler:

I’ve heard some say the holocaust killing of 6 million Jews never happened

Really, you didn’t pay attention to them, did you?

BTW Have you figured out that simple $100 Prez. bet yet?

I had it figured out from the beginning, you seem to be struggling with it for some reason.

You have admitted that the persons doing the videos are employees of MFA, that means they were acting as employees simply to be in a position to torture the animals and get it on film. Now you’re trying to deny this?

RT and 05 I think you are trying to minimize and slough off as insignificant the filmed and documented atrocities and illegal activities occurring against helpless animals in houses of slaughter and factory farms nationwide.
Your tag team can’t compete against the dedicated thousands from many organizations like HSUS. Compassion Over Killing, Farm. MFA and more that are a voice for the voiceless sentient beings that share our planet.
Semper Fi to all those that are shining a light in these dark spaces.
Kudos as well to those exposing ANY illegal activities of Planned Parenthood.

RT Re the bet Why would I bet $300 On underdog Cruz to win $100 against favorite Trump? This is a straight bet–If you think Trump can beat Cruz–make it. If not I understand–no blood.