The pipe of the racism piper is playing and the lemmings hear the call. One after another politicians run to the front of the political correctness cliff and jump off blathering about how the Confederate flag has to come down and even how the next symbol of oppression must also find the dustbin of history:
Senate Majority Leader Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has joined calls to remove a statue of Kentucky-native Jefferson Davis from the state capitol building.
The statue of Jefferson Davis has been in the rotunda of the Kentucky Capitol building since 1936, but it has come under fire by McConnell, GOP Gubernatorial candidate Matt Bevin, and “top Republicans in Kentucky’s House and Senate.”
According to WAVE 3, McConnell gave a measured response to questions about removing the statue, saying, “Maybe a better place for that would be the Kentucky History Museum, which is also in the state Capitol.”
Frankly, I think the Confederate flag flying in the South probably should have been taken down years ago but thanks to democrats like Fritz Hollings up it went.
Retailers lined up and jumped off the cliff as well. Amazon stated it will no longer sell the Confederate flag, but it will continue to sell Communist merchandise.
Amazon sells a huge variety of shirts, posters, you-name-it featuring the hammer and sickle, Joseph Stalin’s mustache, all things Che Guevara, Vladimir Lenin and other colorful revolutionaries who fought to make the world a better place, man. Guevara’s book Guerilla Warfare is on sale in four different formats. In one of the worst genocides in modern times, Stalin forcibly starved Ukrainian peasants in what’s known as the Holodomor, a “terror-famine” that left anywhere from 2.4 million to 7.5 million Ukrainian peasants dead in 1933.
Nazi merchandise? Sure.
Walmart has pulled the Confederate flag but it will be happy to sell you a poster of Che Guevara.
“We never want to offend anyone with the products that we offer. We have taken steps to remove all items promoting the confederate flag from our assortment — whether in our stores or on our web site,” said Walmart spokesman Brian Nick. “We have a process in place to help lead us to the right decisions when it comes to the merchandise we sell. Still, at times, items make their way into our assortment improperly — this is one of those instances.”
“We never want to offend anyone with the products that we offer.”
Well, a lot us find Communists and Nazism offensive. A lot of us find the aggrandizement of philosophies that has killed millions after millions of people offensive.
“We never want to offend anyone with the products that we offer.”
Hmm. Can’t help but wonder- will that eventually include the American flag?
Increasingly, the American flag- the flag of the United States of America- is becoming more and more offensive to the left.
Hispanics find the American flag offensive
Muslims find the flag offensive.
Illegals? I guess they don’t mind as long as the priorities are in order:
Flag stomping has become a liberal past time
Rappers find the flag offensive.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mQ4tPgkoJg[/youtube]
Activists find the flag offensive.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajl-5rwliK4[/youtube]
Oh, and kill whitey while we’re at it.
Liberal educators find the flag offensive.
Wearing the American flag is offensive.
And the Obama mentor in whose living room the political career of Barack Obama was spawned?
As soon as there are enough votes to be had and voters to be pandered to, democrats will call for the removal of the US flag and replace it with something closer to their hearts.
What comes after that? Burning the books about the Confederacy?
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Except for liberals being foolish.
@Redteam: Ok, I searched the internet and found a shelter in an adjacent parish that is a guaranteed no kill shelter. So if and when these start to get bothersome, I will deliver them there.
@Redteam: Make a couple of calls RT.You need me to pick up the phone and dial it for you? Use some of that Conservative initiative.
“liberal line” ??
Just read the above–good job.
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@Redteam, #141:
Part of the problem with the the Confederate battle flag is that it didn’t cease accumulating associations at the end of the Civil War. It might be argued that the problems people have with it today for the most part began after that point. I don’t know how anyone will ever separate the historical context of the battle flag from its ongoing association with hateful racist ideology, any more than how the swastika might be cleansed of its association with Nazism, particularly when overtly racist groups go out of their way to keep the association alive. Those people, and generations of people like them, are the ones who have tainted what otherwise might be an honored symbol of Southern heritage and pride. It wasn’t the doing of the targeted people who object to the powerful negative associations they created.
@Greg:
The exact same thing can be said about the US Flag.
The exact same thing can be said about the US flag.
I made those two points to illustrate this one: Just because some group of nuts happen to use a symbol that they’ve misappropriated does not reflect on the symbol, it reflects on the group. Those that misidentify with those groups are the ones that are the problem. A rainbow has never, until recently, been identified with homosexuality. If I happen to have a symbol of a rainbow, that I had before it began it’s association with homos, does not signify that I now identify with homosexuals. If I fly a confederate flag, which I owned before it became associated with racism (which is a recent development) it does not mean I identify with racism. Note: that was an example, I do not own or fly a confederate flag. I do fly an American flag, which I now know signifys racism before and during the civil war.
@Redteam:
The exact same thing can be said about the Democratic party which was the prevailing party of the elites in the Confederacy’s leadership. This party is guilty of a long history of racist ideology from 1792 through to the civil rights battle of the 1960’s, and yet the left evades talking about the Democratic party’s history of racism. They wont even acknowledge that their politicians supported the institution of slavery, segregation, and fought against equal rights for Blacks. Perhaps the real reason they want to do away with all this history is so that they can hide the dark truth of their party’s past. (Out of sight, out of mind.)
@Ditto, #155:
Was that not during the era when the Democratic Party was dominant across the states that comprised the former Confederacy? The Republican Party was pretty much hated throughout the south.
Political history is a complicated subject, even over the course of a single lifetime. I, for example, voted twice for President Ronald Reagan. Either my perception of the GOP or the GOP itself has since changed.
@Greg:
The Civil War covers only a very brief period in the 200+ year history of the Democratic party’s long racist history. The Democratic party again became the dominant party by 1876, after the south’s Democratic party rebuilt their base to finally divest themselves of the hated carpet-baggers that the North placed in power to oversee the “Reconstruction”.
@Greg:
Ummm, actually no. Robert Byrd, former klegal of the KKK. was an elected Democrat until the day he died in 2010. Yet, I see no movement demanding his name be removed from all the things that are named after him in his state.
@retire05: I would like to point out that Byrd was from a Yankee state, not a Confederate state.
@Ditto:
What is your end game, Ditto? If we admit white Southem Democrats were racists, that rehabitates the Confederate flag how? Okay, so the KKK and Democrats all used the Confederate flag to terrorize black people. Your support for it is coming more into focus.
@Tom: First, the battle flag does not need rehabilitation; it is what it is and no one says otherwise; but for idiots that want to make its disposal a tonic to cure their own racist inclinations. Second, it is supremely important to clarify the racist and bigoted Democrat history as the left attempts to wash their racist history away and hang it on Republicans. Democrats may have, aside from using minorities as political toys in order to gain and hold power, moderated their racist tendencies but the harm caused is THEIR legacy, not the Republican’s.
I’d like to wish everyone Happy Independence Day. We’ve been around 239 years now, still pretty young but we have accomplished much. As a country, we have made mistakes, as a people, we have tried to atone. I don’t know how much longer we will remain a country. It seems we have grown to hate each other more and more. As for me, I still get choked up at the National Anthem and a good fly-over at a ball game.
Maybe it’s a Southern trait, maybe it’s genetic, but I don’t want to be ruled. Not by the left, not by the right, and not by any of the despotic jack-a$$es in DC. I think we’re on phase eight of the nine phases of democracy. They say most democracies only last 200 years.
@Aqua: My sentiments exactly and I’m a “Northerner”. The country is extremely divided and there are those who wish to divide it even more. When the leader of the country refers to those who oppose his policies as “the enemy” and is cheered on by his supporters, there is ZERO hope for unity. Now that the left is on a “roll” with their two recent Supreme Court victories, expect them to push even more to shove their beliefs and “values” down the rest of our throats by whatever means necessary. Eventually they will overstep.
Although dated by a few years, he raises some interesting points. It’s been published here before and deserves a read every now and then.
http://www.nwfdailynews.com/opinion/columns/walter-williams-secession-the-path-out-of-obama-s-lawless-u-s-1.57108
@another vet: Clearly the southern states had the ‘right’ to secede. The North made a determination that they could not survive without the southern states so they started a war to force them to remain in the Union. So it could be said that the Civil war was fought over the right of the North to impose their will over the South.
Jim Webb is in—-a hopeful day for America Semper Fi
@Redteam: The same would hold true today. The left would try to use force to keep us here because they couldn’t get by without conservatives’ money, businesses, and military service. Given they hate conservatives (and to a lesser extent libertarians) so much and have no respect for our views, you’d think they’d jump at the chance to get rid of us.
@Aqua:
This comment brought back a vivid memory. Starting about when I was 12 or so, for several summers I would travel down to rural North Carolina to visit my grandfather for a few weeks. The first time I went down, I remember being a small country store and seeing a bumper sticker. It had a little cartoon soldier dressed in gray holding a Confederate flag and saying something like “Forget? Hell!” When the meaning was explained to me, I was absolutely astounded. No one my age from back home had any clue that people in the South felt this way, had strong negative feelings about the North and the Civil War. I felt very weird about it. It definitely made me feel self-conscious about my “Northerness”. Of course, I never had any negative experiences down there and loved everything about the people and the area, but it was always in the back of my mind, particularly around people who – say – were wearing the flag on a t-shirt or a bumper sticker on their truck. When I told kids my own age about it when I got home, they were similarly confused.
The point being, this is a very asymmetrical phenomena. People outside the South, in my experience just don’t share this angry “us against them” attitude, certainly not stemming from issues going back 150 years. Just something to consider.
@Ditto:
Even Rick Perry – Rick Perry! – knows your offensive nonsense is garbage. http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/rick-perry-apologizes-to-black-voters-for-talking-about-the#.liD795V5gM
@Tom:
Whoops, there you go again, victim of liberal ed system. Lyndon Johnson was ‘very’ much AGAINST civil rights. I guess Perry was educated by Dimocrats.
@Tom: Good for Rick Perry.
@rich wheeler: You like all the people that are wrong about what they say? Or just republicans?
@rich wheeler:
Agreed. And now he’s lost Redteam forever. It’s just like when the Pope mentioned Global Warming. It matters little who you are or what you’ve done: you step one inch out of line on a Right Wing sacred cow, you are forever banished by the true believers.
@Tom: nope, if Perry is the Republican candidate, he has my vote. He can’t help the fact that libs were controlling education in Tx when he was growing up. Same as they were supporting slavery back before the civil war.
@Tom:
wouldn’t you say this would also be true: you step one inch out of line on a Left Wing sacred cow, you are forever banished by the true believers
@Tom:
Massachusetts wasn’t burned to the ground. Carpetbaggers didn’t move to the north to rule for their own personal gain. I imagine in the North, when the war was over, it was back to business as usual. For the South….it was divided into five military district, each controlled by a Union general. Southerners that spoke out against the federal government could be jailed or executed without indictment or trial. The Carpetbaggers put in charge of the rebellious States instituted taxes that were sometimes five times what there were in 1860. Those that still had land and wealth soon lost it and went bankrupt. Those lands were bought by friends of the North.
These things may not be taught in schools, but you can find them in unbiased history books. And they are also passed down to generations in the South.
I gave you a link of one book, here is another:
Emancipating Slaves, Enslaving Free Men: A History of the American Civil War: Jeff Hummel. He’s a professor at San Jose State, hardly a bastion of conservative ideology.
I also forgot to bring up one very important piece of information when we were debating the reasons for the war. I stand by my statement that slavery was indeed one of the central issues, not the only issue. To counterpoint your posts concerning the articles of secession that detail slavery, I would like to point out Lincoln’s first inaugural address:
And he resolved to enforce the fugitive slave act:
Yet, the Southern States did not withdraw their orders of secession. Again, I’m not downplaying the role slavery played in the war, just pointing out it was not the only reason.
@Tom:
I agree with the Governor. He is my number one pick for the nomination. He is a big, big State’s Right man though.
@another vet:
I’ve read Mr. Williams’ article before. He is a brilliant man. I agree with his sentiments.
In 2012, there were so many signatures on the We the People petition site run by the White House that they had to respond.
Then they tell us the debate is settled and we should sit down and shut up.
@Aqua:
A clear sign of people wanting total dominance over others. 20-30 years ago I used have an issue with religious conservatives trying to push religion on others. Now it’s the left. We have a government that has the power to make you purchase whatever they want compliments of two SCOTUS decisions. I could care less about peoples’ personal sex lives or living arrangements, but now we have a government that for all practical purposes, defines marriage. Somehow I don’t think our Founders felt like that should be a role of the federal government. And these are just the tip of the iceberg. We are on a very slippery slope towards tyranny.
This country has never been united other than probably WWII and the immediate aftermath of 9/11. Hell, here we are 150 years after the CW ended and people on both sides are still fighting it and using it for political and personal gain. Part of the reason I focused a lot of my historical research in my second college stint on the CW was because of the way the country is so sharply divided today. I wanted to see what caused the country to come to blows like that. We seem to be going down the same path today. Back then it was two fundamentally different views as to the role of the central government that manifested itself through various issues of which slavery was the most volatile. Those differences were further exploited and fueled by those wishing for war in the North (Abolitionists) and the South (Fire-Eaters). We are in the same position today. The only thing missing is the one big divisive issue like slavery. Once that comes along, watch out.
The flag flying over Charleston is coming down—2/3 majority in both S.C Houses so ordered. Loud FA prognosticator wrong on this one..
@rich wheeler: Thank GOD this issue has been identified and resolved before it ended life as we know (knew) it!!! We are now safe from all threats, global warming is corrected Greece is solvent!!!!
@Bill: Glad you agree global warming is a major problem that is indeed a much more serious concern than the flying of a divisive flag in South Carolina. Kudos
@rich wheeler: WAS a problem. Solved now. Taking down the flag caused warming to stop 18 years ago.
Obama says:
http://conservativebyte.com/2015/07/the-most-idiotic-comment-in-presidential-history/
@Bill: Your reasoning once again reflective of your discerning Conservative bent.
Ten people in Chicago were murdered over last weekend.
Police are on the lookout for a flag.
http://www.gocomics.com/glennmccoy#mutable_1319090
@rich wheeler: Oh, the reasoning that says that, due to no global warming, there probably isn’t any global warming? Thanks, but I’ll stick with my “flawed” reasoning.
@Nanny G: Like the delay of the word of the 13th Amendment reaching Texas, it will take a while for Chicago to learn of the killer flag being defeated so peace can break out.
@Bill: You say ” due to no global warming, there probably isn’t any global warming.” Did you make that up all by yourself Bill? Skooks may soon be speaking with you..
@rich wheeler: Nah, I just accept information other than just what climate-scamists want me to believe. There has been no measurable warming for 18 years. All the warmist models are inaccurate and none of the dire warnings ever come to pass.
Simply facts, Rich. Truth. Believe what you want, I will rely on reality.
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/dark-winter-cold-global-cooling/2014/11/16/id/607672/
http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/06/15/forget-the-temperature-plateau-earth-undergoing-global-cooling-since-2002-climate-scientist-dr-judith-curry-attention-in-the-public-debate-seems-to-be-moving-away-from/
@Rich Wheeler:
What I don’t understand is that, with the SC Senate OVERWHELMINGLY Republican, and with the SC House of Representatives OVERWHELMINGLY Republican, and with BOTH OF THEM voting to take down the Confederate Flag, and with the REPUBLICAN Governor of SC agreeing with them, what is Bill’s gripe?
He mocks the will of South Carolina Republicans?
Is Bill so stridently, radically extreme that he cannot see eye-to-eye with the GOP in SOUTH CAROLINA?
If this is symptomatic of the current state of affairs in the Republican party, the GOP hasn’t a snowball’s chance of a prayer in the 2016 election. Because as flawed as HRC is, Democrats won’t turn on their own like the GOP eviscerates its “RINO’s.”
Give it your best shot, Bill.
Even the South Carolina GOP has forsaken your brand of bigotry.
@Rich Wheeler:
Take note that Bill references three dubious sources – not respected, peer-reviewed science journals – for corroboration of his “theory”.
His sources are like the National Inquirer of science.
RUSSIAN scientists? REALLY!?!
All up and down the East Coast, state legislatures are talking about what to do about rising ocean levels. The Republican-dominated ones make it a law that “global-warming-caused-by-man” can’t be discussed, but they ALL know it’s happening, and they’re ALL trying to figure out what to do about it, NOW.
Like the Confederate Flag issue in SC, Bill’s way out beyond the bleachers in right field, too far out to see the truth, even when the GOP DOES get it.
@George Wells: Surely Dems won’t have to do much to win in 2016 if folks like Bill and The Trumpists ( A new C.W. Band?) continue to “speak out”—A SHAME cause I really would enjoy seeing Hillary get some competition.
@Rich Wheeler #191:
“The Trumpists ( A new C.W. Band?)”
LOL!
Nope! Can’t be the C.W.- the Trump characters aren’t pretty enough…
Oh, OH! “COUNTRY-WESTERN?”
(I thought you meant the TV channel “The CW” re: “Gossip Girl” etc. – Trump’s not exactly eye candy, unless you’re a ZOMBIE!)
I think “Country-Western” is what I set my car radio on when I’m driving in Red states, just in case I get pulled over. As a precaution, you understand? I’d start chewing a piece of hay, too, if I had some handy…
@George Wells: The flag was a stupid issue created by stupid people which had NOTHING to do with hate, racism or murders. The SC government simply had to clean up a mess created and left by liberal bomb-throwers. It was a waste of time and, in the end, accomplished absolutely nothing, just like every other issue instigated by liberals.
@George Wells:
Well, how do you explain your “peer reviewed” experts being WRONG about every prediction, every measurement, every observation and every forecast? The links I provided shows RESULTS, not model-generated predictions, based on inputs created to provide the desired results. Comparing the RESULTS to the climate scam FORECASTS, one can draw pretty clear conclusions as to who is “dubious”.
@rich wheeler: @George Wells: So you both prefer a lying, corrupt cash-whore that got an ambassador killed and lied about it to someone that speaks brashly, but speaks the truth?
Sheesh.
@George Wells:
George, it was the Dimocrats that put the flag up in South Carolina, it is the Republican party that is taking it down. All the opposition in SC was Dimocrats.
@Bill: Bill, I agree with you on the global warming scams. In the 70s they were predicting a new ice age, then in the 80’s it became a global warming scam, then when the temps started going back down 18 years ago they changed it to ‘climate change’. Don’t know about where you live but the climate changes every day here in Louisiana. It even changes from morning to night, In the middle of the day, it gets hot, then cools down practically every night. But, as you well know, the liberal climate change scammers think that the climate is determined by ‘peer review’. That’s saying that if they can get a consensus of peers to agree that we need a cool day next month, then it will be cool. Just whatever the peers want. That’s like saying that 2+2 is 4, but we can make that peer review approvable and get a consensus that 2+2 = 5 (or whatever they want it to) and then that’s what it will be. As long as ‘peers’ agree. There is no scientific community that can prove global warming, because it’s not happening, so they get a group together to ‘claim that it is’ and the fools will buy it.
@George Wells: George Take a look at #195 This guy assured us the S.C. House and Senate would never get a 2/3 vote to take down the flag.–wrong– Rrpubs and Dems.voted overwhelmingly to take it down They listened to the people and the state Republican leadership. Good for them.
Re the other FA character in #194 He is in the 10-15% radical right Trumpist brigade–mad as hell Conservative old white men that are fuming over their loss of control of this country—–Listen up You’re not gonna get it back.
@Redteam #195:
Well Goll-ee! I guess that pretty much makes me a Republican, doesn’t it?
Ummmm… No it wasn’t.
The three SC Senators who voted to keep the flag flying were Peeler, Verdin and Bright – ALL REPUBLICANS….
AND!
EVERY LAST VOTE in the House of Representatives to keep the flaqg flying WERE ALSO REPUBLICANS!
Check ‘em out yourself!
•Bedingfield, Eric M.
•Burns, James Mikell
•Chumley, William M.
•Corley, Christopher A.
•Delleney, F. Gregory, Jr.
•Hardee, Kevin
•Hill, Jonathon D.
•Johnson, Jeffrey E.
•Kennedy, Ralph Shealy, Jr.
•Loftis, Dwight A.
•Moss, Dennis C.
•Moss, V. Stephen
•Nanney, Wendy K.
•Putnam, Joshua A.
•Simrill, J. Gary
•Spires, L. Kit
•Stringer, Tommy M.
•Taylor, Bill
ALL REPUBLICANS!
NONE of the “opposition” were Democrats, not in either chamber.
If I laugh any harder, I’ll wet myself!
@Redteam: I was a true believer and worrier of global warming. Then the facts about the lies, suppression of facts, manipulation of data and conspiracies to maintain the same monopoly of message began to leak out. Now, the truth about the scam is a torrent, yet some are so dependent upon propagandists for their thoughts that they cannot face the truth. As we see on a daily basis, they prefer to be lied to than to discover the true corruption of their idiotic and failure of an ideology.
@Rich Wheeler #197:
Your assessment is spot on.
Doesn’t the prospect of a Trump candidacy just make your head spin?
Can’t #194 and #195 see that they’re handing HRC the White House on a silver platter?
Sure makes things easy…