God bless Pam Geller, if you’ll excuse the expression. And screw you if you don’t.
We’ve had it, and Pam Geller is the tip of the spear.
Pam organized a “Draw Muhammad” contest in Texas. The winner of the contest was Bosch Fawstin, a Muslim apostate. He has interesting things to say about Islam:
Breitbart News: Are people wrong when they refer to Islam as a religion of peace?
Bosch Fawstin: There are so many people that talk about this issue out of their ass. This is an ideology that we have to understand before we say a word. Bush (43) was talking out of his ass when he said Islam is peaceful. He has no idea what he’s talking about. His job was to protect us, not the ideology of Islam.
He says, and I agree, that Bill O’Reilly is full of crap about this and should shut up:
Breitbart News: What is the best way to defeat Islamic totalitarianism?
Bosch Fawstin: We have to start with the truth. We have to study Islam. We cannot lie about it anymore. We cannot allow the Islamists, so-called intellectuals, and leftists to lie about it anymore. Just look at guys like Bill O’Reilly, who has no idea what he’s talking about. He smeared Pamela Geller because of this event. We are at war. Outside of that building were two savages locked into jihad. People are trying to pretend we were doing something other than celebrating free speech, and demanding our freedom.
Two representatives of Islam presented themselves at the contest to protest with AK 47’s and were suppressed.
It was one more Islamic expression of dissent involving the taking of life or the attempt to do so:
In January, gunmen attacked the offices of Charlie Hebdo, a French satirical magazine that has a controversial history of depicting Mohammad, and killed 12 people.
The next month, a gunman attacked a free speech forum in Copenhagen, Denmark, featuring cartoonist, Larks Vilks, who infuriated al Qaeda with his depictions of Mohammed.
In the United States, cartoonist Molly Norris is still in hiding, four years after she depicted the likeness of Mohammed on several items, and was deemed a “prime target” for execution by Islamic extremists.
Pam Geller now faces death threats from Islam because of the contest.
You can’t insult the prophet, says Islam. Anjem Choudary says Geller should be executed.
“You ain’t seen nothing yet” says an alleged ISIS member in Britain.
Yes, don’t you dare insult the prophet.
Over at WaPo Michael Cavna explains why we all need to live in fear of offending Muslims.
Bill O’Reilly also came down on the side of cowering to Islam and limiting free speech. Same for Greta Susteren. She’s worried about putting the police at risk. You’re giving in, says Megyn Kelly to O’Reilly:
Not so, insisted O’Reilly, who said he “would do it another way.”
He did not elaborate how he would.
But what the hell kind of religion will kill when it’s offended?
Remember Christians rampaging and killing people in this country when this abomination appeared?
Me neither.
Taxpayers PAID for that crap. “Piss Christ” was the winner of a contest sponsored by the National Endowment for the Arts in 1996.
Remember how Christians rampaged and murdered when this showed up?
Me neither.
Virgin Mary covered in elephant dung. What’s not to like about that? This beauty was a Turner Prize Winner.
The Islamist gunmen killed in Texas left behind a “trail or terror.” Unfortunately Obama’s resources are spread so thin harassing conservatives that he doesn’t have any left for watching domestic threats.
ISIS claims to have “soldiers” in fifteen states and the SEAL who shot Bin Laden says it’s true.
The bottom line is that in this country people do not fear for their lives if they insult Christians or Jews. Americans do not fear for their lives if they insult Nazis or the KKK or the Tea Party but Americans have reason to fear for their lives if they insult Islam. You’re not allowed to criticize Islam and our execrable President protects it like a honey badger protecting its young.
You get prizes for blaspheming the Christian religion. You get chastised for criticizing Islam as though it holds a special status among religions and among governments. You could also get dead.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
Islam is not civilized. It is 800 years behind civilization. It is intolerant of homosexuality. It is misogynistic. It is as much a political system as it is a religion. We have a right to insult Islam. We have every bit as much a right to insult Muhammad and Islam and anyone else has to insult Catholicism and Judaism. This garbage cannot stand. It is un-American. Either grow up or get off our goddam American lawn.
And that damned Obama better spend a little more time focusing on ISIS domestically instead of conservatives.
DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education.
DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed.
Except for liberals being foolish.
You’ve hit on something important to critical thinking here, Dr.J.
Many are afraid to “poke the bear” as it seems O’Reilly feels. The very fact that there is an existence of “fear” means that there is a serious problem — not somewhere in a far off land, but right here in our own backyard.
Fear is a destructive force that decays whatever it inhabits, from the inside. It is a tool used by every insecure politician, or manipulator from San Francisco to Moscow, just as most religions have used fear of one degree or another forever, but we find ourselves in a moment in human history when more slaughter is being committed under the religious banner of Islam than at any time before. Even Muslims fear the more radical among them — no doubt for good reason. “Poking” shouldn’t be criticized, but applauded. We’re either FREE or we’re not. My sense of it all right now is that in general, we are NOT.
O’Reilly has never been the sharpest, but he remains a far cry better than what other networks have to offer, and as for Megyn Kelly, she’s a new star in the conservative firmament, head and shoulders sharper than O’Reilly — and it seems, fearless. Good for her.
Best. Post title. Ever!
Anyone who has investigated the Qur’an, or any of the Islamic teachings, understands that Islam is entrenched in the 7th century. The rules that applied then, applied now.
But, but…………what about the violence in the Bible, some say. Obviously, they don’t understand the root of the word Christian. Mohammed taught war, slavery, submission, oppression. Christ taught love, forgiveness, and peace.
I find it ironic that the left will support Islam, and defend the actions of terrorists, when it is the policies of the left that radical jihadists would behead them over; homosexuality, abortion, et al.
But not content with the radicals in our midst now, Obama is planning on importing even more. He has great plans for allowing Syrians (there are NO good guys in that county) to settle here. A great percentage of those currently being given entry into the U.S. as “refugees” are Muslim. While Christians are being slaughtered all across the Middle East, an Iraqi Catholic nun applies for a permit to simply visit the U.S. to plead her case, and the case of Middle Eastern Christians, the State Department denied her based on their fear that she might attempt to stay here and claim asylum. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
“The State Department officials made the determination that the Catholic nun could be falsely asserting that she intends to visit Washington when secretly she could be intending to stay. That would constitute illegal immigration, and that, of course, is strictly forbidden. Once here, she could also be at risk for claiming political asylum, and the U.S. seems determined to deny ISIS’s Christian victims that status.”
I remember the officer that was in charge of the security detail in Benghazi before he was pulled out by the state department clearly testifying that the enemy was inside the gates. Now I think he was talking about our homeland, not Benghazi.
Like the disgusting examples of vilifying Christianity provided, I do not agree with insulting a religion simply for the sake of insulting a religion. I just have to ask, “why?” No doubt, there is a right and freedom to do it… but, why?
The winning cartoon is different. It has context and a point. Muslims commit violence in the name of Islam for the infraction of creating a picture of Muhammad. This cartoon shows the insanity and futility of killing in the name of a picture, much less killing in the name of a religion.
Yet, we know the reaction to such expressions. So, let the freedom of expressions continue, but let those involved (and the rest of us) be prepared for the reaction and crush it each and every time.
Pam Geller is the best recruiting tool that radical islam has right now so if we WANT war with Islam (as some may think is required of all good christians) than by all means support the GELLER
However if we want peace like all those secular leftists that you seem to hate so much than Geller’s behavior should not be encouraged.
As far as “islam” being uncivilized it is no more or less civilized than much of christian Africa where witches are routinely burned to death
People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones
Last year 16000 Americans were murdered in the USA
Please tell us how many of those were killed by foreign born terrorists
Also please tell me what percentage of those killers were christian
“We have met the enemy and he is us”
Did the SEAL who shot bin Laden also say that Pam Geller’s actions will put American lives in danger both here and abroad? IF IF IF there are ISIS trained soldiers in the USA why the hell were they only able to send in 2 idiots like in Texas? Was ISIS as terrified as all the idiots that think Jade Helm 15 is an actual invasion? Has ISIS gone into hiding because of JH 15? Is Obama going to seize power and become the Emperor of Texas like in Dr J’s past pics?
Are there trained ISIS soldiers hiding in your town at the falafel place?
Drjohn: Amen to your first line!
“God bless Pam Geller, if you’ll excuse the expression. And screw you if you don’t.”
Let me defend Pamela Geller, a brave woman who really should not have to be defended by any American! I have been following her for years now. Over those years, she has stood steadfast not only against the Anti-Semitism and worse shown by the radical Islamist towards her race the Jews but also against the coming genocide aimed at Christians and for that matter anyone who refuses to adhere to radical Islam. The facts are clear as to this yet she is vilified and worse for not only standing her ground against theses savages but for having the temerity to actually challenge those (and this includes our clueless President) who feel she and others have no right to question them.
Moron alert! Radical Muslims are butchering Jews and Christians! They have openly stated their intent of not only wiping Israel off the face of the earth but also any religion or people that do not follow their sick policies. And lets not forget their threats against the U.S. in general! Of course, our rancid leader in the White House doesn’t have the balls to stand up to or worse is in full sympathy with the very savages that are intent on destroying us. So of course, when especially a woman in fact has the cajones to stand up and comment, she must be slammed down! Well, not on my watch!
Pam Geller has been correct in everything she has pointed out, including the fact that this President and his party as well as the rest of the chicken sh.. morons who call it hate speech or worse are willing to take away our basic rights in order to force their views on the rest of us!
Pam Geller and those of us who stand up to not only the Radical Islamists and worse but also to the enemy within, that being the traitors in our positions of leadership, the press and of course our educational system have every right to voice our opinions and more! The title of your essay says it all. If anyone doesn’t like that, well it’s just to damned bad. I am proud to stand with Pamela Geller and others in what capacity I can and I find it abhorrent and disheartening that far to many out there are willing to give up Free Speech or worse and in fact stand with an evil that rivals Hitler and worse! My beliefs as to this country and her ideals run deep and all I have never seen anything from Pam are those same beliefs.
Just a further response to those who seem to feel “the enemy is us” instead of facing the facts and more. John especially above, I really do not care if someone is “offended” by any speech, be it against religion or really in this case a violent belief that must be slammed down and defeated. Ask our boy Greggie as to my feelings on things. i have leveled my wrath on him more than a few times and I haven’t felt one twinge of guilt.
Let me make something perfectly clear. Pam Geller and those who speak out against the new Nazis, Radical Islamists and all who hate and kill in the name of some asinine religion or belief are doing us and more the world a great service!
Never again must countries stick their heads up their asses and ignore the holocausts and worse being committed by the scum of the earth! 70 years ago we defeated what at that time we thought was one if not the worse evil ever in Nazi Germany, something that should never have gone as far as it did if we and others hadn’t ignored the facts that were right in front of us.
Not learning from one’s mistakes is bad enough but to then not only make the same mistakes but in turn find excuses for the very scum that is hell bent on death and destruction to those who oppose them is beyond idiocy. It is sheer ignorance and worse and what is in fact really bad about this is we the people stupidly elected a President who with his lackeys apparently hates this country enough to not only “understand” the radical Muslim scum and there so called complaints but then is turn is willing to look at us and declare the ideals and principles he is supposed to defend are in fact null and void.
All I can say to that is rot in hell Obama and all who refuse to stand up to the evil that is radical Islam and for that matter Anti-American leaders here in this country!
No one has the right to tell me what to draw, write, speak or think and in my eyes absolutely no one has the right in any way to tell me to condone those who equate in my eyes to Hitler and past genocidal maniacs. If one doesn’t like what I have to say, so be it. It is their right to argue against it and I will defend that right. But don’t ever tell me I have no right to speak my beliefs!
Free Speech is a bedrock principle that if co-opted by the Politically Correct as well as politically bankrupt leaders and worse hard core leaders with Communist or worse ideals will lead to the destruction of this country. This so called President of ours backs the Muslims to the hilt, famously saying Islam will not be slandered! Well guess what folks, they slander themselves!
I for one refuse to cowtow to the cowardly idiots who feel I and others should keep out thoughts to ourselves and not “insult” Muslims or anyone for that matter. In point of fact, the actions taken by the Radical Jihad, out of control rioters and most of all our lawless President and congressional leaders is an insult to me and all others who love this country! And anyone who feels I do not have the right to express my feelings on this or any other subject can go directly to hell!
“The greatest immorality in War is failing to utterly destroy your enemies as quickly and decisively as possible, when you have the means and opportunity to do so. To not do so is an incredible moral failure and cannot be tolerated by a Nation whose Enemies are seeking to destroy and dominate them every single day that they are allowed to exist. As such the Enemy has dictated the way in which it must be destroyed. Once we understand that, we should not feel remorseful over the means by which it is most expeditiously achieved.”
http://therealrevo.com/blog/?p=121890
Worth the time. It starts out slow, but draws you in. There are parallels all the way to today.
The Battle of Vienna, September Eleven 1683
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChdGe2YxVmA
@john:
The FBI knew the shooter could go to Garland and still did nothing, despite the “trail of terror” left behind.
That sure inspires confidence in this regime.
@Thirteen: #10
Thirteen, well done, . . . a film that is timely in the confusion we seem to be bombarded with from the ignorance of the O/J W.H.
Pass the Croissants and hit play on “The Day of the Siege”
. . . . . and let loose the dogs of political incorrectness, revisiting Sept.11, 1683.
@john:
John
I think the left’s desire to submit to Islamists is the best recruiting tool they could hope for.
John : Please stop reading those “Art Voice ” newspapers strewn around coffee places. This is not a healthy perspective for formulating ones perspective on political thought.
John: Is the speaker, Gellar the problem, and/ or the Islamic listener the problem? Moreover, is her religion, being Jewish the “…best recruiting tool for radical Islam…” rather than speeches by Gellar and Wilders against the spread of “radical Islam.
John, once we cross the line that fear of offending trumps the liberty of the first amendment ,we embark on the road to paralysis of free speech and thought which is paradox to liberty and freedom the heroic Gellar represents and her ability to say it.
@john:
You aren’t very smart, are you? Have you heard the phrase “lone wolf”? The threat is that there are terrorists who are to act randomly on their own… just as in Garland.
No, actually Obama is the best recruiting tool because in farce of a foreign policy and dealing with terror threats telegraphs weakness and invites attack. If only the victims of these attacks could be only his ardent supporters, there WOULD be justice in this world but, as it is, innocent people will be hurt or killed by the policies of this administration.
Bill you seem to think that someone else (Obama) should order someone else (our military) to do something that you don’t want to do yourself
When the pics of Abu Gharib came out it was universally believed that this strengthened the people who were killing our military ( the fact that theses people later became the government of Iraq just makes it even harder to understand). When crazy pastor in Flirida threatened to burn the Muslim holy books he stopped only when it became clear that this would further endanger our troops
Our military makes great efforts to not desecrate Muslim books punishes when desecration does happen
Geller et al have the legal right to draw cartoons or piss on books
But
Fojng so has consequences to others
You can’t yell FIRE in a crowded theater and you shouldn’t make the mission the military has been ordered to perform Any more difficult
Of course you have a right to make that mission more difficult but I don’t think you should
Dr.J Pam Geller and Bill Maher. Interesting bedfellows on this issue. Congress take note.
Should Geller be encouraged to piss on things that Muslims consider sacred?
When the first cartoon controversy arose with the cartoon of Mohammed head as s bomb the Christian leaders in Iraq begged for them to stop because Christians in Iraq were being killed
I was in Jordan a few years ago and had the opportunity to speak with a couple of islamic scholars about the issue of violence in the Q’uran. What they told me was this: The book is the map of the prophet’s life. He started out one way and developed into another. Under islamic construction of text, the later text is what governs, not the former.
So this is why muslims say that Mohammed was a peaceful guy- early in his life, he was. And because he was a violent murderous warrior in his later life, who defiled young girls, muslims can make that example their “religion.”
And thanks to taqiyya, they can lie to your face and say that islam is a religion of peace. Because they can do anything they want under taqiyya- lie, cheat, steal, murder- if it promotes and protects islam.
@John:
Had Obama merely kept US forces in Iraq rather than grab headlines by pulling them all out, we would have no ISIS running roughshod all over the region. What I expect Obama to do is protect the national security of the United States. To date, he has done only the exact opposite.
Mistreating prisoners is against the law. Free speech is not. Though liberals think they have the right to suppress the speech and thoughts they do not agree with, this is not the case. During the war in Afghanistan, al Qaeda was spreading rumors that the US was using Muslims for harvesting organs. Like liberals, radical Islam needs no pretense to hate. They hate our existence and not realizing this and thinking bowing and apologizing will change them is paramount stupidity.
What Muslims respect is strength and what they despise is weakness. Obama IS weakness and this motivates radical Islamists to challenge the US and the west. Obama unleashed ISIS and is too afraid of political consequences to challenge it. Obama is a coward.
Should we all live in mortal fear of insulting a Muslim extremist when our very existence, way of life, culture and freedoms are what they hate and find insulting? I tell you what, John… you go about living in fear of everything. I will just go on living.
@John:
I see that as even more evidence of the savagery of Islam.
John: Yelling fire in a movie theater is a false analogy to the drawing of cartoons and speeches in a convention center. The first is an attempt to harm by panic without notice. The latter is a series of speeches and cartoons that were given advance notice . Moreover, those present were exercising the first amendment clause without malice to those in attendance.
John you did not respond to my first posting. Given the silence -you must agree with my post.
I think the commentary I have seen elsewhere that blaming Gellar for the actions of the 2 dead wannabe terrorist vermin is like blaming a rape victim for wearing provocative clothing is spot on.
Shariah law is incompatible with the US Constitution. Given a choice between the two, I’ll take the Constitution every time. All the leftist argylbargle about “Muslims attack us because we offend them is clearly nonsense, as shown by the history of the Barbary pirates. Any “religion” that carries a death sentence for those who leave it or refuse to respect it deserves nothing but derision as the barbaric, coercive poison that it is.
Pete:”….coercive poison that it is.” For John and his crowd of social warriors and cultural pluralism this postulate would never enter into the equation for Islam.
@Pete:
We have to remember that the Left didn’t view Communism as a threat either and made excuses for it despite the millions of deaths attributed to it either through outright butchery or failed policies. Some things never change.
There are. 2 ways governments can get people to voluntarily pay taxes
One is to offer them services like roads and schools
The other is to tell them that the boogeyman. Is after them
It turns out that the threat of world domination by communism was being led by a country that basically couldn’t bake bread
@John:
A country that couldn’t bake bread? You mean the country that put the first satellite into space? The country that put the first man into space?
Having more advanced technology does not, by itself, equate to victory. The Nazis had far superior tanks to the allies, and had jet fighters before the allies did. They had rockets as well. We beat them despite their better technology by sheer weight of numbers.
The USSR fell because they could not keep up with the rebuilding of the US military. Reagan brought the soviets down because he had the will to stand up to them. The left kept insisting that communism would be victorious, so we needed to give up and accept the inevitable. Reagan refused, and the USSR collapsed.
We are in a similar situation now. Islam is portrayed falsely as nothing to worry about, despite the evil that occurs all over the world. Unfortunately, we have a schmuck, pro-muslim fool in the Oval Office, with syncophants galore insisting on the lie that islam is peaceful.