It depends on the meaning of the word Is………………….lamic

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US SENATOR BARACK OBAMA IN KENYA

Ever notice how some things seize Barack Obama emotionally more than others? Notice how Obama listens to some more than others?

Obama’s speech yesterday was seen by some as a “surrender.”

“By making such a point about ‘no ground troops,’ the President did two very bad things. First, he reduced the enemy’s uncertainty about our intentions. Second, he gave a global impression that he needed to promise ‘no ground troops’ to the American people because he thinks that otherwise his political position is so weak that he couldn’t get support for an air war. This is a bad mistake: it suggests to our enemies that our resolve is shaky. Even and especially if that is true, we don’t want to tell them this.”

Thus far, Obama has promised no ground troops and has no coalition and no place from which to conduct air strikes. But Obama made a point of emphasizing something important to him. He tried to sell America with the thought that the Islamic State In the Levant is not “Islamic.”

Now let’s make two things clear: ISIL is not “Islamic.” No religion condones the killing of innocents. And the vast majority of ISIL’s victims have been Muslim. And ISIL is certainly not a state. It was formerly al Qaeda’s affiliate in Iraq, and has taken advantage of sectarian strife and Syria’s civil war to gain territory on both sides of the Iraq-Syrian border. It is recognized by no government, nor by the people it subjugates. ISIL is a terrorist organization, pure and simple. And it has no vision other than the slaughter of all who stand in its way.

Reaction to Obama’s sales pitch was quick and strong:

Ron Christie @Ron_Christie
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#ISIS isn’t Islamic? What kindergartner briefs the President on terrorism?

Erick Brockway @erickbrockway
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Obama: “ISIL is not Islamic” Hello? THIS ISIL? “Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant”

Christy @mollyemmasmom
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[email protected]: ISIL is not Islamic and Lois Lerner and the IRS is not corrupt.

Obama is such a freaking liar.

#ObamaSpeech”

Daniel Pipes:

In the end, though, neither U.S. presidents nor Islamist apologists fool people. Anyone with eyes and ears realizes that the Islamic State, like the Taliban and al-Qaeda before it, is 100 percent Islamic. And most Westerners, as indicated by detailed polling in Europe, do have eyes and ears. Over time, they are increasingly relying on common sense to conclude that the group is indeed profoundly Islamic.

It turns out that in making his assertions Obama was once again bowing to someone. CAIR.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) wants President Obama in his speech on ISIS Wednesday night to reject the jihadists’ “misappro-priation of Islamic terms and concepts,” and to recognize that the terrorist group was created by “the lack of freedom and justice in the region.”

CAIR leaders plan to join other local and national Muslim leaders in a Capitol Hill viewing of Obama’s prime-time address to the nation on a strategy to counter the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS/ISIL) threat.

CAIR’s national executive director Nihad Awad made it clear what Muslims in the U.S. will be looking out for in the speech.

Over at Powerline, Scott Johnson has a question or two for “Imam Obama”

My question: Is the Islamic Republic of Iran (as Obama invariably calls it) Islamic? It is a designated state sponsor of terror — designated by the United States. It is also the patron of designated terrorist organizations — designated by the United States. These designated terrorist organizations supported by the Islamic Republic of Iran are also avowedly Islamic.

Is the Islamic Republic of Iran Islamic? Is its support of terrorism Islamic? Do the mullahs who run the show misunderstand the religion? President Obama, wise in all things, help us understand.

Perhaps the more pertinent question is why President Obama continues his hot pursuit of the alignment of the United States with the Islamic Republic of Iran, as though we have strategic interests in common and can be best friends.

Charles Krauthammer:

“There’s also something both patronizing and ridiculous for a Western Christian to be telling the Muslim world what exactly their religion is about, particularly a religion with a 1400 year distinguished history… I didn’t know Obama was an Islamic scholar, but that’s probably what he does when it’s raining and he can’t be playing golf.”

Barack Obama spares no effort defending certain social issues and certain religions.

In 2007 Obama recited the Muslim Call to Prayer “with a first-class [Arabic] accent” and described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”

DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education. DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed. Except for liberals being foolish.

13 Responses to “It depends on the meaning of the word Is………………….lamic”

  1. 1

    Bill

    ISIS is as Islamic as one can get; they are Islamic zealots. What ISIS does IS Islam.

    Most Muslims are not that zealous. Like most Christians don’t tithe, most Muslims don’t behead or terrorize. But, given the motivation, many more would than do now.

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    John

    Also most Christians don’t stone adulterers although some do pass laws calling for the death penalty for homosexuals
    Some Christian zealots call for killing all Muslims should religions be judged by the good that they do? Or by what the worst practitioners do ?
    Are Muslims also children if God? Or just Christians ?

  3. 3

    retire05

    @John:

    Also most Christians don’t stone adulterers although some do pass laws calling for the death penalty for homosexuals

    “Also most” which means “not all”. So perhaps you would like to provide us links where Christians have stoned adulterers? Do try to stay in modern times.

    Some Christian zealots call for killing all Muslims should religions be judged by the good that they do? Or by what the worst practitioners do ?

    Really? Other than some Christians calling for the destruction of ISIS, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram and other violent groups, where do you find a call, from any Christians, to kill ALL Muslims? And is the destruction of those groups being called for because of the group’s religion, or the group’s actions? There is a difference although I doubt you can comprehend that.

    Are Muslims also children if God? Or just Christians ?

    All people are the children of God. Some, like ISIS, turn their backs on Him.

  4. 4

    Budvarakbar

    @Bill:

    But, given the motivation, many more would than do now.

    And thus you have illustrated the fact that there is no such thing as an “innocent civilian” — for as the armies of Islam advance — just WHO benefits?

  5. 5

    Nanny G

    Just as Obama has attempted (with his ObamaCare birth controls) to co-opt the rights of nuns and priests, Popes and ministers as to what constitutes Christianity, now Obama attempts to tell the world what defines Islam.
    Of course he is wrong.
    All these ”passive” “peaceful,” ‘assimilated” Muslims pay their mandatory tithe to the mosque.
    Of course it isn’t called a ”tithe,” in Islam, it is called a zagat.
    And every seventh penny of all those Muslims’ zagat dollars goes to pay for jihad.
    Any Muslim who tells you different is practicing kitman and taquiya on you: dissembling and outright lying for Islam’s ultimate goal: world wide dominion.
    They all would love that.
    CAIR officials even overtly say so.
    To the extent possible they would also love it to happen bloodlessly, by lawfare.
    Co-founder of CAIR, Omar Ahmad:

    “Those [Muslims] who stay in America should be open to society without melting, keeping Mosques open so anyone can come and learn about Islam. If you choose to live here, you have a responsibility to deliver the message of Islam … Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.

    Obama, raised to appreciate Islam, bows to Islamic leaders:
    Obama “Bow” To Saudis: CNN Reporter Asks White House To Clarify
    Obama takes advice fro Islamic leaders, to this day:
    Obama speaks to Saudi King Abdullah before IS speech: official

    Also, what hold does Obama have over ”retired” General John Allen?
    He had him investigated over his correspondences with Jill Kelly, if you all recall.
    Then he ”retired.”
    LATER, he was CLEARED!!!
    Part of Obama’s putch to get rid of all those top brass who knew how to fight and win!

  6. 6

    lucky2cope

    I thought Glen Beck had a good analogy–even if what ISIS does is not in keeping with the majority of Muslims’ views of what defines Islam, it’s like trying to argue with the Westboro Baptist Church while insisting they’re not Christians. WBC may not ACT consistently with what the majority of Christians define as Christian behavior, but their language and personal identity is as “Christians” and you can’t deal with them without understanding that. Even if ISIS is not behaving consistently with what the textbook definition of Islam is or even what most Muslims would define as Islam, they THINK they are and you can’t just pretend they don’t. The language they use, their military/social objectives, are all based in their version of it. Trying to pretend it doesn’t means you can’t effectively address the problem because you’re willfully misunderstanding it.

  7. 7

    Nathan Blue

    @John: @John: Your comment is so devoid of reason and free thinking I simply can’t imagine anyone offering you anything beyond admonishment for being glib.

    The average Christian is more rational, reasonable, and freethinking than any group I can think of, including Atheists (that small, but growing religion made up of people still pissed about having to go to mainline services when they were kids).

    Christians continue to be the vanguard of truth and justice, despite the petty distortions offer by those in power. Do a little research on world religions, and be objective. I’m afraid you’re own religion is blinding you.

  8. 8

    Nanny G

    @John: Are Muslims also children if God? Or just Christians ?

    Jesus taught His disciples to pray “Our Father in heaven,” but Mohammadans find the very notion offensive.
    To them, calling God “Father” suggests sexual procreation.
    According to the koran, “It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son” (Sura 19:35); and Allah “begetteth not, nor is he begotten” (Sura 112:3).

    So, no, by their own admission no Muslims are ”children of God.”
    Mohammadans say the Bible is not translated correctly almost everywhere it disagrees with their bloodthirsty teachings.
    Mohammad admitted some of his writings in the koran were ”inspired by demons,” but he left them in there anyway!
    (Salmon Rushdie’s The Satanic Verses was based on those parts, btw.)

  9. 9

    oil guy from Alberta

    Your Muslim in Chief, says that the West is at war with ISIS, in many words I would add. Susan” minced” Rice said it isn’t a war because there are no boots on the ground. Wasn’t the US in a state of war when Pearl Harbor was attacked from the air. There were no boots on the ground. I’m sorry, but this administration is led and staffed with teenage mentality and mannerisms. Contradictions and tomfoolery. Lol.

  10. 11

    Ditto

    @Nathan Blue:

    It must be so difficult for John to touch-type while his head is firmly inserted in his posterior orifice. But we can certainly understand when he looks about, (with all it’s warm putrid gas and Democrat talking points,) from whence his inspiration erupts.

  11. 12

    Bill

    @This one: I wonder if, instead of vacations, date nights and golfing, Obama could have done both; rained death from above on this guy or that AND not assured the complete collapse of Iraq in the face of ISIS assault? Let’s see… all he would have had to do would have been to listen to every military expert with knowledge of the situation (not necessarily those he surrounded himself with, since he only allows those who will reinforce his ideological view and ego in his midst) and NOT pull all the American troops out. All he would have had to have given up was a campaign talking point.

    Well, that’s probably too much to ask just to keep us out of ANOTHER war.

    And pssst…Bush created them. Yup, I’m blaming Bush! Lol!

    Of course you are blaming Bush… what else do you have to try to cover for the hundreds of damaging failures of this incompetent community organizer? Yay, he has killed some terrorists with drones. Oops, he, personally, opened the door wide open for ISIS to invade Iraq, murder children, behead men, rape women and sell them into slavery.

    LOL, indeed. I see little for anyone, much less an enabling liberal, to laugh about. What is laughable is that ignorant, failing liberals such as yourself have one solution to every new problem your administration has created…. “blame Bush”. Get out of the way and let the adults handle the crisis.

  12. 13

    Bill

    @This one: Ah, just read the Chris Matthews piece where you liberals are currently getting this clap-trap.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/randy-hall/2014/09/12/chris-matthews-comes-unglued-evil-dick-cheney-created-al-qaeda-created?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Marketing&utm_term=Facebook&utm_content=Facebook&utm_campaign=Matthews-ISIS-Cheney

    Apparently, there is no place in the liberal mind for facts or truth. Just make them up, create some inflammatory excuses and blame and stupid, gullible, ignorant liberals will lap it up like a dog lapping up gravy.

    Does your own ignorance and gullibility bother you any, This one?

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