Obama Declares End To Global Warming Debate….World Laughs Hysterically

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I have to shake my head in wonder when I hear this kind of proclamation…especially when it comes from Obama:

But the debate is settled. Climate change is a fact.

Climate change is a fact? No shit Sherlock.

No one disputes that. No one. In fact that is what those of who do not believe in man-made global warming argue, the planet’s climate has been changing for millions of years, long before we were here.

Anthony Watts has a great graph up depicting this very thing:

Now if someone wants to say “man-made climate change is a fact” then they will be called to the carpet because it is nothing of the sort.

Another doozy in that inane muttering of Obama?

“The debate is settled”

Bullshit.

Once again Watts schools him with some history:

Lord Kelvin In 1898, Kelvin predicted that only 400 years of oxygen supply remained on the planet, due to the rate of burning combustibles.[62][63] In his calculation, Kelvin assumed that photosynthesis was the only source of free oxygen; he did not know all of the components of the oxygen cycle. He could not even have known all of the sources of photosynthesis: for example the cyanobacterium Prochlorococcus—which accounts for more than half of marine photosynthesis—was not discovered until 1986.

Kelvin’s pronouncement, which he believed to be true at the time based on the facts he had at hand, were later disproved by new science and obviously discarded. But, imagine if there were a panic movement then to conserve oxygen, with “oxygen taxes” applied, massive government funded research implemented, and reams of NGO’s feeding on the frenzy demanding a host of new laws and changes in human behavior to avert the crisis.

They’d look pretty stupid to us in the context of science knowledge today, wouldn’t they?

About as stupid as our President does when he utters:

“The debate is settled”

The debate is NEVER settled in science. Good science is all about hypothesizing, discovery, testing, and repeatability. It’s all about debating on new and old ideas with an understanding that there is no certainty in science because we are always learning more, discovering new things, and changing the theories to reflect the new evidence.

The Epicurean Dealmaker:

The undeniable strength of science as a domain of human thought is that it embeds skepticism and contingency at the very root of its self-justification. Science is not science if it does not consist of theorems and hypotheses which are only—always and forever more—taken as potentially true until they are proven otherwise. And science itself declares its ambition to constantly test and retest its theories and assumptions for completeness, accuracy, and truth, even if this happens more often in theory than in fact. This is a highly admirable thing.

and Stephen Hawking:

Any physical theory is always provisional, in the sense that it is only a hypothesis: you can never prove it. No matter how many times the results of experiments agree with some theory, you can never be sure that the next time the result will not contradict the theory. On the other hand, you can disprove a theory by finding even a single observation that disagrees with the predictions of the theory.

So please, enough with the “debate is settled” crap.

Who would dare assert that we know all there is to be known?
– Galileo Galilei

Curt served in the Marine Corps for four years and has been a law enforcement officer in Los Angeles for the last 24 years.

33 Responses to “Obama Declares End To Global Warming Debate….World Laughs Hysterically”

  1. 1

    mathman

    To be science, a theory must be testable and verifiable. That is how we get the products of an industrial civilization. Theory says a piece of steel can withstand x pascals of pressure: either it does or it does not. If the piece of steel fails, the theory gets changed. It is simple: either buildings retain their shape or they fall down. If bue building or bridge falls down, then the theory is WRONG.
    No one has ever been able to verify the original “hockey stick” hypothesis, since the data was “lost.”
    Thus the hockey stick is not science, but an attempt to exercise a socialist agenda in nationalizing energy use.
    If science could be settled, we would still live on a flat earth which does not move.
    If science could be settled, life would spontaneously generate.
    As for concensus, now–Dr Semmelweiss was driven out of the medical profession for suggesting that doctors wash their hands between patients. It was the concensus at the time that nothing unhealthy could be transferred by hand from one patient to the next. How come we have all the hand washing and latex gloves now? Simple. Concensus was wrong. Wrong then, wrong about Anthropogenic Global Warming.
    And the capacity to change the theory is what should characterize science.

  2. 3

    Michael Collins, Esq.

    The debate IS settled, when the Antarctic “Ship of Fools” got trapped in non-existent summer sea ice.
    Again it was settled the night of the SOTU speech, Atlanta Schools kept kids overnight, the highways were snowed in with abandoned cars and Florida had snow. God mocked Obama that night of his speech.

  3. 4

    MOS-8541

    Yo, Esq.
    Can not agree more. But you must remember that obama is a muslin terrorists. Your God did mock him. Too bad he does not recognize your God..Agree with you.

  4. 7

    Nanny G

    @kevino: The debate is settled: our President is an idiot.

    Pitch perfect, Kev.
    Obama loves to limit the time for debate, then immediately claim, ”the time for debate is over.”

    OK, who knows which member of ”The Cabinet,” was kept in a vault during the SOTU?
    Hint……. he’s crazier about this issue than Obama is!
    And he even LOOKS nutty.
    Yup, our Nutty Professor who Obama deemed Sec of Energy, Ernest Moniz.
    Asked about whether man-made global warming was an issue for debate, he said, “I am not interested in debating what is not debatable.”
    He also pledged to introduce new efficiency standards for appliances and electronic equipment.
    Before Obama put him in a cabinet post he said, ”The evidence is overwhelming and the science is clear, … The threat from climate change is real and urgent.”

  5. 10

    Redteam

    @This one:

    Our planet is doomed because if the idiocy of the right not to take this seriously enough to actually do something.

    If I understand you correctly, you may be right. As of now, life on earth is scheduled to disappear in 4.5 billion years. I’m sure some of your liberal buddies will be their to toast the event, claiming you were right all the time.

  6. 13

    Smorgasbord

    I know obama WANTS TO BE a dictator. He has now proven he thinks he really is one, and that ANY declaration he makes becomes the law or the truth. Loyal subjects, bow to your king.

  7. 19

    Nanny G

    @Greg: The voyage was to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the Douglas Mawson expedition. They were attempting to retrace Mawson’s original course as accurately as possible.

    If that was the case, and they claimed it was, how utterly foolish of them not to have provisions for at least TWO YEARS.
    Mawson was stuck out there for two full winters.
    He ate his own sled dogs, including their super-Vitamin A-rich livers!
    One of his men died from too much Vitamin A.

    But why should I be surprised?
    Greenies do the dumbest things!
    Like turning off their electricity for an hour, which costs more electricity than not doing it.
    Or buying cars with batteries that cannot be replaced cheaply.
    Or forcing mercury-laden lightbulbs on people so that HAZMET procedures must be followed should one break.

  8. 20

    Mully

    Being someone who likes results and knowing what I get for my money, I have simple questions for the Obama minded folks. If we do everything Obama says we need to do to combat climate change here’s what I want to know.
    How much will the temperature drop by?
    How long will it take?
    How much will it cost?
    How much will the sea level recede?
    How long will it take?
    How much will it cost?

    If they cannot definitively answer those questions with real numbers then I’d rather we not go there until they can demonstrably show the results we will get. Because they cannot at this point prove otherwise, it’s all theory.

    It’s about power, control and money. Follow the money.

    One last question. What was the optimum temperature the earth should have been yesterday? Or how about today?

  9. 21

    Redteam

    @Greg:

    They were attempting to retrace Mawson’s original course as accurately as possible.

    but they found a lot more ice than there was a hundred years ago. But that was not the mission of the ship.

  10. 22

    Redteam

    @Mully:

    What was the optimum temperature the earth should have been yesterday? Or how about today?

    That’s easy. The same as yesterday and the same as a thousand years ago. According to all the charts i’ve seen, even the difference between the medieval warming period and little ice age was less than 1 degree difference. so the global temp is not changing.

  11. 23

    john

    The US Navy believes that the climate is changing and that man is the cause. The US MArines do also believe.
    70% of all Americans believe.
    The Americans who do not believe are often the same that believe that the Earth is as the Bible says only 6000 years old and that the Grand Canyon proves that Noah’s Great Flood was real. Under Bush Park Rangers were forbiden to answer any questions concerning the age of the Grand Canyon for fear of offending the anti science base of the Republican Party

  12. 25

    Nanny G

    When people are brainwashed from an early age, is it any wonder they ”believe” idiotic things.
    Go back to post #1.

    mathman: Dr Semmelweiss was driven out of the medical profession for suggesting that doctors wash their hands between patients. It was the concensus at the time that nothing unhealthy could be transferred by hand from one patient to the next. How come we have all the hand washing and latex gloves now? Simple. Concensus was wrong.

    And WHY did these Austrian doctors reject even a scientific experiment proving Dr. Semmelweiss’ theory?
    Because they honestly believed they, as Christians, were superior in every way to Jews.
    Consensus is merely popular belief.
    The late Dr. Michael Crichton gave a speech at CalTech that I had the pleasure of attending:
    Aliens Cause Global Warming
    Here is the transcript: https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/~scranmer/SPD/crichton.html
    His points about the fallacy of consensus were excellent.
    These have my comments in [….].

    Ehrlich [Ironically speaking about the proof that a global WINTER was immenent] “What we are doing here, however, is presenting a consensus of a very large group of scientists…”

    I want to pause here and talk about this notion of consensus, and the rise of what has been called consensus science. I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled.[See? Obama adopted his entire scoundrel argument] Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you’re being had. [Are we listening???]

    Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus.

    There is no such thing as consensus science. If it’s consensus, it isn’t science. If it’s science, it isn’t consensus. Period.

  13. 26

    JustAl

    To base any speculation as to a “trend” in a 4.5B year old complex system on a century or so of inconsistently measured data is foolhardy. It’s noteworthy that the big “hot spot” last year to prop up the scam was Siberia/Russia which has shut down a very large percent of measuring stations since the end of the cold war. The data is not only shallow in depth, but a great deal of it is made up from thin air.

    Looking at the so called “proxies” and the speculated and observed solar cycles, if I had to bet, my money would be on the side of getting colder over the next several decades.

  14. 27

    ilovebeeswarzone

    HE SAID THE DEBATE IS OVER
    why are the borders still open?
    THOSE one million and half million, add up to the emission
    in a big way, they add up to the forest fire emission also to make room for them,
    if one can say that and go hide, he is not responsible of his non actions, in what he said emergency,
    HE DOESN”T KNOW WHAT EMERGENCY MEAN, THAT IS TO CLOSE ISUES OPEN TO OTHER WHO WANT TO INVADE FOR THEIR WISH TO TAKE THE COUNTRY AND MERGE IT WITH THE GLOBAL UNIONS ORG,
    HE WOULD LIKE THAT FOR OBTAINING THE HIGHER PRESTIGE, WHCH AMERICANS DENY HIM OF IT,
    he use the TOLERANT AMERICA to fulfil his dream of conquest of the world he want to be part of it,
    good that there are still patriots ready to neutralize his plans,
    he better face the reality that tolerant is not being dumb,

  15. 29

    Redteam

    @john:

    The US Navy believes that the climate is changing and that man is the cause. The US MArines do also believe.

    changing? How? getting colder? warmer? No proof of it has ever been proven by anyone.

  16. 30

    ilovebeeswarzone

    Redteam
    funny THE WORDS, THAT WAS NOT THEIR MISSION,
    REMIND ME OF SOME UNION PERSONAL REPEATING , THAT’S NOT OUR JOB TO DO,
    which I heard many times when asking one employee to do a little extra job,
    AND HEARING THAT ANSWER WHILE THE DANGER WAS EMINANT,
    I think everyone heard that answer in their work by one too lazy ,
    to go the extra minute to help one of his co worker,

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