Obama: ‘Put Yourself In The Palestinians’ Shoes’

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Today was chock full of Obamaisms as he spoke today in Israel. First he quoted Saul Alinsky:

In his address in Jerusalem today, President Obama channeled Saul Alinsky, citing the radical community organizer’s defining mantra as he urged young Israelis to “create change” to nudge their leadership to act.

Obama told a crowd of college students at Jerusalem’s main convention center that Israel “has the wisdom to see the world as it is, but also the courage to see the world as it should be.”

One of Alinsky’s major themes was working with the world as it “is” to turn it into the world as “it should be.”

In his defining work, “Rules for Radicals,” which he dedicated to “the first rebel,” Lucifer, Alinsky used those words to lay out his main agenda. He asserted radical change must be brought about by working within a system instead of attacking it from the outside.

“It is necessary to begin where the world is if we are going to change it to what we think it should be. That means working in the system,” wrote Alinsky.

Obama related his Alinsky quote to a suggestion that “peace” begins with the people and not just the leadership – a statement some may relate to community organizing.

He further suggested Israelis do an end-run around the country’s leadership and “create the change that you want to see.”

Then he told the Israeli’s that even though the palestinians have terrorized Israel for decades they should “put themselves in their shoes”

“There is no question that Israel has faced Palestinian factions who turned to terror…but the Palestinian people’s right to self-determination and justice must also be recognized,” Obama said. “Put yourself in their shoes – look at the world through their eyes. It is not fair that a Palestinian child cannot grow up in a state of her own, and lives with the presence of a foreign army that controls the movements of her parents every single day.”

Then he tried to compare the conflict between Israel and palestinians with this example:

[youtube]http://youtu.be/j5FOc32N5GA[/youtube]

Please.

The U.S. and Canada are two civilized nations. In the conflict between Israel and the palestinians you have a civilized nation fighting a brutal uncivilized terror network. The two are in no way comparable.

Then he brought up Cairo:

Four years ago, I stood in Cairo in front of an audience of young people. Politically, religiously, they must seem a world away. But the things they want – they’re not so different from you. The ability to make their own decisions; to get an education and a good job; to worship God in their own way; to get married and have a family. The same is true of the young Palestinians that I met in Ramallah this morning, and of young Palestinians who yearn for a better life in Gaza.

Yup, he stood up in front of an audience of Egyptians and now look where they are. They have a new dictator who wants “the bloodsuckers” of Isreal destroyed while tearing up any kind of peace treaty they have with Israel. Plus they have The Muslim Brotherhood in charge.

They have less freedom now than in 2009 when he gave that speech.

Way to go O!

And now he thinks because he spoke to a group of youths about how they ‘must understand’ their enemy they will go running out and demand their government concede more land and stop the conflict.

What a narcissistic fool he is.

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If Canada treated the US like the Palestinians treat Israel we would already have fought a war against Canada and beat them back.
Obama is like Peter Pan begging the audience to clap their hands so his Tinker Belle would magically recover from the poison she drank in his behalf.
It is sheer fantasy to believe like that.
Both Obama and Saul A. pushed such magical thinking on their syncophants.
Obama is benefiting greatly from our woefully inadequate schools who churn out low information and non-reasoning voters.

We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the
victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. —
Elie Wiesel

BHO is such an embarrassment. He and Joe just like to hear themselves talk.

Obama is truly a nightmare. Israel should use its unique resources to look elsewhere within the USA for support. Obama is their enemy as well as ours. As to what unique means, all I can think to say is the glue, the indefinable cohesion they enjoy as a people.

Obama received enthusiastic applause from his Israeli audience at many points during his Jerusalem Cultural Center address. They reserved their disapproval for a lone heckler.

“But the Palestinian people’s right to self-determination and justice must also be recognized. Put yourself in their shoes – look at the world through their eyes. It is not fair that a Palestinian child cannot grow up in a state of her own, and lives with the presence of a foreign army that controls the movements of her parents every single day. It is not just when settler violence against Palestinians goes unpunished. It is not right to prevent Palestinians from farming their lands; to restrict a student’s ability to move around the West Bank; or to displace Palestinian families from their home. Neither occupation nor expulsion is the answer. Just as Israelis built a state in their homeland, Palestinians have a right to be a free people in their own land.”

Oy vey! Did he really say that?

Yep. And the audience approved. Of course, they were mostly young people. Israeli college students. Their nation’s future.

Here’s a prepared transcript of the entire speech. Have a look, if you want.

I was much amused by FOX’s “fair and balanced” coverage of Obama’s earlier meeting with Benjamin Netanyahu on Greta Van Susteren last night. Viewers didn’t hear a single word of Netanyahu’s praise for our President or his policies toward Israel. Instead, they rolled a tape of Obama and Netanyahu speaking—minus the soundtrack—while John Bolton expounded on the failings of Obama’s foreign policy, his disregard for Israel, his indifference toward the threat of Iran, and Netanyahu’s dislike for him.

Obviously this must all be true. You saw their lips moving as Bolton talked.

…“put themselves in their shoes.”

So, does this mean that obama wants Israel to think like a terrorist, and try to think of ways to destroy the Palestinians?

Sometimes the Israelis are called Jews. Jew is a religion. Israeli is a nationality. Let’s not get the two confused.

Let’s see now: obama says the relationship between Israel and the Palestinians is like the relationship between the USA and Canada. Evidently, the propaganda media hasn’t been reporting the Canadian terrorist attacks on the USA, just like they aren’t reporting the Palestinian terrorist attacks on Israel. I don’t remember Fox News or any other news agency reporting the Canadian rocket attacks on the USA.

There have been 2-3,000 rocket attacks on Israel, maybe more. How many have we had from Canada. Have we had any suicide Canadian bombers blow themselves up in the USA? Why isn’t this stuff being reported? Why the coverup? How many casualties?

And now he thinks because he spoke to a group of youths about how they ‘must understand’ their enemy they will go running out and demand their government concede more land and stop the conflict.

I wish I had a better memory for history. As I remember, areas were given to the Palestinians and the Israelis, except they were not countries yet, because other countries have to recognize them as a country. Israel has been recognized as a country. There is no Palestine country. Hasn’t any other country recognized them as a country? If no, why not?

Three separate times Israel was attacked by an enemy. All three times Israel won, and gained some land. All three times Israel gave some of that land back to promote peace. Some of the land had food producing facilities, like a large greenhouses. The Palestinians tore all of those things up, and still aren’t producing anything but terrorism. All three times the Palestinians moved their rocket launchers closer so they could fire the rockets further into Israel.

Imagine Mexico or Canada attacking us three separate times, and us winning and gaining some of their land, but giving them some land back all three times, and they just used the land to attack us again. Should we put ourselves in their shoes? We would be putting our shoes on their soil.

I remember when I was about the only one on FA that said obama wasn’t on the side of the USA. Since then, I have read several people say the same thing. When are the republicans in congress going to realize this?

I just sent my federal reps, and my governor a simple email, and I asked them to give me a simple yes or no answer. I had asked them the same question before, but received the usual long paragraph after paragraph non-answer politicians are known for.

Some time ago I sent you printed info about obama’s fake birth certificate, him using someone else’s Social Security number, his fake Selective Service registration card, and his father never being a citizen of the USA as the “natural born” part of the U.S. Constitution requires. Please give me a simple yes or now answer:

Do you believe obama is a legal resident of the USA, and that he qualifies under the rules of the U.S. Constitution to be president of the USA? All I want is a simple “Yes” or “No”.

@Joel:

I suggest anyone who realizes that obama is not fighting for the USA should send a similar letter. Sending a link to the information will help.

@Joel: #2
I saved the quote. Thanks

Remember what ‘the one’ said in his book ‘should the world turn in an ugly direction, I stand with the muslims’!

There should be no understanding where this man’s loyalty lies!

We are toast, only God can save this country from complete destruction.

Yes, the Israelis should be more sensitive to the mulims; Hitler’s only allie to never surrender, especially to the the so called “Palestinians” who turned down their own state when Israel was created and, I think, one other time since, both times refusing to acknowledge Israel’s right to even exist.

Next he’ll be asking the Israelis to put themselves in the Palestinians’ ovens instead of their shoes.

@bwax: #8
Doesn’t the Bible say something about God putting the leaders of the countries in that position? Makes me wonder why he wants a Muslim as president.

Obama had the nerve to say: “Palestinians – including young people – have rejected violence as a means of achieving their aspirations. There’s an opportunity there — there’s a window.”

Have they really done that? Where? Who? How?
Rockets were being lobbed into Israel from ”the Palestinians” DURING Obama’s visit!
Ever see that poor kid whose home was invaded because his dad posted a photo of him armed on Facebook?
Compare:
Um Nidal is filmed with her son, Muhammad, who is armed and ready to carry out a terror attack:

“By Allah, today is the best day of my life. I feel that our Lord is pleased with me, because I am offering my son for Him. I wish to sacrifice more [sons] for Allah’s forgiveness, and for the flag [of Islam], ‘There is no god but Allah’, to fly over Palestine…. It’s true that there’s nothing more precious than children, but for the sake of Allah – what is precious becomes cheap.”

http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=635&fld_id=635&doc_id=1109

More Palestinian parents celebrate children’s death:
http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=635&fld_id=635&sort=d#ctl00_ctl00_mainContent_ctl02_anchor

When did all of this change, Obama?

@Nan G: #11
obama’s definition of “violence” is: When a free person or a free country defends itself against Muslim or socialist attacks.

More Palestinian parents celebrate children’s death

All of the dictator type governments teach stuff like this.

@bwax: He will – except that a large portion of the US population has been self-marked!

@bwax: Bwax and Smorg Quite a tag team #6 Smorg “wishes he could remember history better.” Bwax #8 makes up a quote. BHO actually said after 9/11 that American Muslim and Arab CITIZENS need specific reassurance and “I will stand with them if political winds shift in an ugly direction.” Remember Japanese/Americans interred during WW11?
You guys got ANYTHING REAL to talk about?
Smorg For someone who purportedly spends so much time researching and checking things out, you sure come up with some really crazy stuff.lol

@Richard Wheeler:

“I will stand with them if political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

Would that be American political winds, or could he have actually meant world political winds, including the political winds of Israel who is surely damn sick and tired of having rockets rain down on them from a bunch of 7th century barbarians?

The Palistinians demand a “right of return.” What about all the Jews whose lands were stolen from them by Arafat, who was not even from Palestine. Do they have a right of return? And how far back should we go? Seems the Palistinians have picked a date that is convenient for them. How about we give Palestine back to the Cretes, and other Europeans, like the Greeks, who settled that land long before Mohammed was a gleam in his daddy’s eye?

We have one true ally in the Middle East; Israel. And you can bet your $600K+ home that Obama will do everything in his power to stab Israel in the back.

@retire05: @retire05: BHO made it quite clear he was speaking of the type of “political winds” that had put Japanese/American Citizens in internment camps during WW11.
Don’t believe any seated POTUS, including BHO, would stab Israel in the back.Quite simply they wouldn’t have the political guts even if somehow(very doubtful) it was the right thing to do.

@Richard Wheeler:

BHO made it quite clear he was speaking of the type of “political winds” that had put Japanese/American Citizens in internment camps during WW11.

How do you know that is exactly what Obama meant? Are you the translator of all things said by Obama? He also said that if we liked our insurance/doctors, we can keep them. How’s that going to work out? And he said that insurance premiums would decrease. Ooops. But I also remember another statement by Obama that the lamestream press just ignored; how under his plan, energy costs would “necessarily skyrocket.” That campaign promise he kept.

So you explain to me how you know that he was specifically speaking of American political winds.

Don’t believe any seated POTUS, including BHO, would stab Israel in the back

Obama wouldn’t be the first Democrat president to stab the Jews in the back. And it is clear that Obama’s sympathies lie with the Muslim nations. But golly gee, that “Arab Spring” thing is not working out very well, is it? Seems his approval rating among Muslim nations is less than George W. Bush’s was.

@retire05: When making this statement he directly referenced Japanese internment.Common sense Reto5.
A TRULY wild assertion by you–“BHO approval rating among Muslim nations less than ‘W”s. That’s a beaut.
What seated POTUS “Stabbed the Jews in the back?” What else ya got?

I gotta ask Are you a “Birther”
Do you believe BHO is a Muslim?

Thanks Semper Fi

WHat a piece of grabage…insult to America but what can you expect from a terrorist.

@Richard Wheeler: #14
How hot does water have to be before a frog starts to cook?

–”BHO approval rating among Muslim nations less than ‘W”s. That’s a beaut.

“confidence in Obama in Muslim countries dropped from 33% to 24% in his first term. Approval of obama’s policies declined even further, from 34% to 15%. And support for the United States in Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon and Pakistan is lower today that it was in 2008 in the closing year of George W. Bush’s administration.

The headline is “Obama’s Middle East policy in tatters:”

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/03/20/obamas-middle-east-policy-in-tatters-column/2004343/

Gee, Richard, remind me again, are Egypt, Jordan and Lebanon “Muslim” countries?

What seated POTUS “Stabbed the Jews in the back?”

I guess your forte is not history. Look it up.

I gotta ask Are you a “Birther”
Do you believe BHO is a Muslim?

What? Are those the default questions you progressives/liberals throw out there when you have nothing else to say? You are, if anything, predictable.

@Richard Wheeler: #16

Don’t believe any seated POTUS, including BHO, would stab Israel in the back.

There is a difference between stabbing someone in the back, and letting someone else do it, but it has the same results.

@retire05: You didn’t complete the quote which indicated “collapse of support” in 4 Countries “did not happen elsewhere.”
For folks “stabbed in the back” they sure love to consistently vote Democratic. But being a student of history, you knew that.

Smorg Wanna explain your #22.

@Richard Wheeler:

You didn’t complete the quote which indicated “collapse of support” in 4 Countries “did not happen elsewhere.”

Perhaps because that “collapse of support” for Obama had already happened in other countries. According to Pew Global from last year (6/13/12):

confidence in Obama:

Muslim countries 2009 – 33% 2012 – 24% -9%

favorable toward U.S.:

Musim countries 2009 – 25% 2012 – 15% -10%

Approve of Obama’s International policies:

Muslim countries 2009 – 34% 2012 – 15% – 19%

For folks “stabbed in the back” they (Jews) sure love to consistently vote Democratic.

As do blacks, although it is clear that in the past they have voted for presidents who were actually bigotted toward them. Stockholm Syndrome.

@retire05: “Stockholm Syndrome” suffered by Jews and Blacks? You sure have some bizarre ideas.You’re stayin up late again?

@retire05:

And it is clear that Obama’s sympathies lie with the Muslim nations.

You could never in a million years mount a convincing argument, with facts (those little things that are alien to you), to support that claim. But I’d love to see you try. Why? Because I love watching you make a fool of yourself.

@Richard Wheeler:

“Stockholm Syndrome” suffered by Jews and Blacks? You sure have some bizarre ideas.You’re stayin up late again?

Can you blame her for not getting sleep? Cocaine freaks and homosexuals are prowling the streets. Of course to Retire, they’re one in the same.

@Smorgasbord: #22
I don’t believe obama is a friend of Israel. He is defending Islam much more than any other religion. Islam is the enemy of Israel. Israel has never attacked any of the Arab countries around it, but different ones have attacked it over the years. Israel could wipe most, if not all, of their enemies with their military, but they don’t. Why? Because all they want is to be left along.

What is obama doing to help protect Israel from their enemies? We helped Egypt put in a president that is tied in with the Muslim Brotherhood. We are pulling out of Iraq and Afghanistan, and they are going back to their Muslim ways, making us the Great Satan again. We are letting Iran continue developing a nuclear bomb. Has obama ever said he will not let Iran develop a nuclear bomb? He has talked around it, but I can’t remember him saying it directly. Has he ever said anything like attacking Israel is the same as attacking the USA?

I have never understood the United State’s idea of sending the Palestinians aid. Even if we say it can only be used for helping feed the people, that means that much more money Mammas can spend on attacking Israel. If we really wanted peace between the two, we would not send them money directly, but go there and help them develop ways to grow their own food, and manufacture things. All they grow now is hatred for Israel, and all they manufacture is terrorism.

@Smorgasbord, your comment….

I don’t believe obama is a friend of Israel. He is defending Islam much more than any other religion. Islam is the enemy of Israel.

….. is somewhat at odds with itself, not to mention the generally popular argument that Obama is somehow on the side of the Islamists.

And aren’t some (erroneously) touting that the region’s Muslim nations’ opinion of the US is in hell and a handbasket since Bush? Wouldn’t that go against the grain of Obama as a friend of Islamists?

On the other thread about US leadership approval numbers, I tried to interject a dose of reality in my comment where I posted the graph from the Pew study’s summary. Since Pew only addressed 14 countries… a far cry from all that encompass the Middle East, plus other regional Muslim nations, I also posted a link to Gallup’s release this month of their US Global Leadership Project.” That study, starting on pg 15, has their historic US leadership approval numbers from 2007 thru 2012.

Some of them don’t have all the years, mind you. But what I did was pull down 20 nations – Middle East plus regional Muslim nations (like Libya, Somalia, Yemen etc, that aren’t technically ME) – and create a compilation of their historical stats via Gallup.

I’ve put these on the FA media library site as jpgs… here’s the link to Page 1. The link to Page 2 is here.

Out of the 20 nations (which includes Israel), 11 of them had records of Bush years vs Obama years. Of those eleven, seven of the nations had a higher approval rating in 2012 than the Bush years. And four had a lower approval rating. One of the seven that was higher was Saudi Arabia, however they only had statistics for Bush in 2007-08, and Obama in his “good will” year of 2009. They don’t have the rest of the years. However SA’s approval was also higher in 2009 than the prior two Bush years.

What’s less interesting than the up and downs of US leadership approval is the fact that we are *always* notoriously low in that region. There’s little the Great Satan can do where Muslim nations will love us… an absurd task to even under take.

In fact, where the Pew report is very different is that they seem to think that there is a 48% of approval in Lebanon, and 45% in Tunisia. The highest Gallup approval figures were 26% for Lebanon, and only 27% for Tunisia. Pew’s sample strikes me as wildly optimistic by comparison. But like any poll, depends upon who they asked, right?

The point is, if Obama is “one of them”, as so many like to say, why is the US leadership approval rating still consistently low in the Muslim nations?

One reason might be because he’s out cowboy’ing Bush, and drone’ing the snot out of them.

As to your other observation:

What is obama doing to help protect Israel from their enemies?

You are probably missing the single most important aid that Obama, and the Dem Congress, gave to Israel. And that was the funding for Israel’s eight additional Iron Dome systems, batteries and interceptor missiles. Israel only funded the first two systems.

Obama, a big supporter from the get go, requested that aid from Congress back in 2010, and $205 mil came out of the 2011 budget. That would be called the United States–Israel Missile Defense Cooperation and Support Act (H.R. 5327). As part of the quid pro quo, the US obtained access to, and a stake in, the technology that Israel developed. They are also working on co-manufacturing deals. (and some people say there’s no benefit to foreign aid to Israel??)

In light of the spectacular success rate of the Iron Dome, Obama was pledging additional support for the system last year.

All I can say is, if Obama has plans to stab Israel in the back, he’s sure spending a lot to keep them alive so he can do so….

Israel may not like Obama’s tendency to meddle and “community organize”… as evidenced by Obama not enjoying the popularity of Bush. I don’t either. But I do have to admit that Obama does step up to the plate in making sure that Israel can defend herself. And I think that while they may not like him personally, they are quite sure that he, and the US Congress, will not be turning their back on Israel any time soon.

@Richard Wheeler: You said:

A TRULY wild assertion by you–”BHO approval rating among Muslim nations less than ‘W”s. That’s a beaut.

I know I’m late to this discussion, but really Rich. Open mouth, insert foot, rinse, repeat – that’s you, my friend.

Obama popularity falls in Arab world

After improving with the election of Barack Obama in 2008, U.S. favorable ratings
across the Arab world have plummeted. In most countries they are lower than at the
end of the Bush Administration, and lower than Iran’s favorable ratings (except in Saudi
Arabia). – SOURCE

So, let me use your words when I ask – “What else you got?”
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@Tom: Are you naturally this contemptible, or is it a learned trait?

You said:

Can you blame her for not getting sleep? Cocaine freaks and homosexuals are prowling the streets.

Is this personal experience speaking? You seem pretty well versed in this area.

@MataHarley: As usual, your research is impeccable and thorough. I might only add that while the Muslim countries might not see Obama as “standing with them.” It is a situation that could be compared to the far left in this country thinking Obama is too “centrist.”

In other words, they might not want him, but many of us, based on his writings, statements and such from before he became a national figure, think he wants to stand with them.

Seems that pretty much everything this man tries to do, he impotently fails at.

@anticsrocks, not to burst your bubble guy, but the Zogby 2011 analysis is not only out of date, but all they proved is that the “arab attitude” levels have plummeted pretty much back to around the same levels they were in the Bush years, give or take a few points.

2009-10 were years where they gave Obama a grace period and soaring approval marks. Then reality set in. So the only “plummeting” done was Arabs realizing that the current Great Satan, despite all the talk, was no better than the prior Great Satan.

Check out the Gallup’s study, released this month, that I linked above. You’ll note the bouncing ball of numbers from 2007 thru 2012.

@MataHarley: #29

The point is, if Obama is “one of them”, as so many like to say, why is the US leadership approval rating still consistently low in the Muslim nations?

The USA is still the Great Satin to the Muslim religion, and should be destroyed.

All I can say is, if Obama has plans to stab Israel in the back, he’s sure spending a lot to keep them alive so he can do so….

Even if obama’s goal is to turn the USA into a Muslim or socialist state, he still has to act like the president of the USA until then. Even Hitler looked like the good guy to a lot of countries, until it was too late. I have my opinions, and you have yours. You aren’t going to change mine, and I’m not going to change yours.

@anticsrocks:

Is this personal experience speaking? You seem pretty well versed in this area.

Are you talking about people who do drugs who dwarf you intellectually? Good point, I do know a lot of those reprobates. You obviously are clueless as to what I was referring to (even though I helpfully provided a link to aid people marginally smarter than you). Aside from parading how stupid you are, what exactly is your point again?

@MataHarley:
Yep, I can’t really see any evidence that Obama stands with Islamists; he has mainly bombed (droned) the crap out of them. I do believe he thought he could bring about Middle East peace and is now facing reality. I also think his stance on settlements when he was talking to the Palestinians was a shift to reality.
The biggest problem I see is a total lack of affirmative leadership from Obama. He just doesn’t like to make concrete decisions.

@anticsrocks: The polls would be of a cross-section of people — not the MOB folks — what the obie admin has done to those countries effected by the Arab Spring is send them back to the 7th century mindset with the MB and sharia law — and totally destabilizing the region — no help at all to the Arab street or to Isreal.

He and several appointed “moles” and other operators in his admin are working directly for the MB — both in screwing up the mid-east and most of North Africa as well as destroying the US economy — working to further the MB work started on 9-11.
AS far as I can tell he is succeeding beyond all expectations — it is the US and American people that have failed — miserably I must add!!

@Tom: Yeh right – doing drugs is a sign of higher intelligence — get back to the ’60’s and Haight Ashbury where you belong.

@Aqua: No evidence — ah but you are being cleverly deceived — what is a bunch of sacrificial co-lateral deaths — all the great dictators and their schemes for systems have scrubbed out some of their fellow countrymen and fellow schemers on their way up and then millions to stay there.

No what obie is ‘doing’ is what the US is doing — not obie.

@Aqua: It is called “being a slime-ball.” Resume enhancement in today’s world.

It seems the Arab street sees the ‘RAT clearer than the American people see him and his bolshevik party. Of course if the Arab street had a chance to vote for the SOB they would be in lock step support — one of their own you see –he just hasn’t succeeded yet in the final destruction of America and giving them enuff free stuff.

@anticsrocks: Late and wrong—SEE #33 You may remove YOUR foot from mouth LOL How ya feeling?

BTW Late also on understanding Tom’s comment. Get in the game!

Since the Pew study of the 20 countries (14 with Bush vs Obama %’s) was the original source for the USAToday claim that the US is “worse off” than Bush years – citing lower numbers in Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan and Pakistan – again I went back to the original Pew Report. You’ll notice on the right that you can either download a PDF of the full report, or just bring up sections of the report in your browser.

They have a section in their report, which everyone can read to form opinions instead of allowing the USAToday’s pundit to do it for them. That section is called “Global Opinion of Barack Obama”.

Here is their results for each of the 14 countries with Bush year comparisons.

Notice that 6 of the 20 total countries have no Bush year to compare to Obama. In 13 of the 14 countries, opinion of Obama *specifically* shows that his numbers are all higher – not lower – than Bush’s. In the 14th country – Pakistan – it is tied with Bush – 7%. Obama’s grace period of 2009 temporarily took it up to 13%. In both 2010 and 2011, it dropped to 8%. In 2012, it was right back to where it was with Bush’s 7%. All that drone warfare, and encroachment on sovereign territory, took it’s toll.

As I said, the only plummeting in views of the US was Obama’s grace period wearing off, when they discovered that the new boss was no better than the old boss. The opinion of the US, or any of it’s various Great Satan’s, is always notoriously low and hasn’t significantly changed much. To no surprise.

However this closer look at Obama specifically, verses US leadership in the graph below from the Overview section, actually shows that the USAToday headline as being “worse than Bush” in four countries only happens when you take Obama, himself, out of the equation and look at the nation as a whole. Otherwise, Obama’s approval is higher in 13 countries and tied in the 14th.

A closer look sure tanks the “Obie did it!” argument, eh?

Then, when you add in the margin of error cited in the same Pew report – which ranges between 3 and almost 5% – it’s relatively status quo from the Bush era. Hence the USAToday subheadline – “U.S is now less popular in the region than at the end of the George W. Bush administration” – is incorrect.

None of this is pro Obama rhetoric…. much as I’m sure some wish to paint it as. I am merely pointing out facts that we are just as hated as we used to be, Obama being irrelevant, and that shouldn’t be any surprise.

As far as Obama and what he has done to help Israel against her enemies.. the *only* subject I addressed in my comment #29… I find it hard to believe that he would aggressively advocate for Israel’s Iron Dome if he were of the mind to abandon them. I would support any POTUS that funded the Iron Dome… even Jimmy Carter… as a correct decision.

I don’t agree with Obama on much, but when I do, I am not so blinded by personal hatred as to not admit when he does something I think is correct.

@MataHarley:

I don’t agree with Obama on much, but when I do, I am not so blinded by personal hatred as to not admit when he does something I think is correct.

^

Not afflicted by Obama Derangement Syndrome

@Smorgasbord:

Even if obama’s goal is to turn the USA into a Muslim or socialist state, he still has to act like the president of the USA until then.

Hilarious. So when exactly is he going to start acting like the Muslim Hitler you foretell? He’s been President for four plus years, so he’s only got three plus to go. Not much time to undermine an entire civilization, I’d think, even for a comically inept community organizer, er, I mean, all powerful evil genius like Obama (which one is it today?). You’ve been telling us The End it’s right around the corner for the last four years, so when is it coming? When will it happen?? Tell us, man, so we can start packing.

@Budvarakbar:

Try comprehending the back and forth before weighing in, champ.

anticsrocks
one thing struck me is HE TOLD THE STUDENT TO MAKE CHANGES
FROM WITHIN, AND BE SORRY FOR THE PALESTINIANS, BY PUT YOURSELVES IN THEIR SHOES,
THIS INSTIGATING THE ISRAEL LEADERSHIP WHICH WILL NEED THOSE YOUNG AS THEIR FATHER
AND MOTHERS, TO KEEP ISRAEL SAFE, IT IS EXACTLY THE CONTRARY
TO WHAT HE SAID TO BEBE NETANYAUE SECURITY POLICY.
THAT WAS UNACCEPTABLE TO USE THE YOUNG AGAINST THE DEFENSE POLICY OF THE ELDERS,
HE PLANTED A SEED IN THOSE YOUNG MIND.
THAT IS WHAT YOU CALL A BLATANT DOUBLE CROSS ON ISRAEL

@Tom: 44

You’ve been telling us The End it’s right around the corner for the last four years, so when is it coming?

Turning a free country into a socialist or Muslim country takes time. This has probably been going on ever since we gained our freedom from England. We even have had a communist party trying for many years to get their people elected. We know that if they gain power in the white house and congress, they will try to turn it into a Russian style country. This is why they get few votes. The idea is to come in as the good guy, but once in, start turning the country into what you want it to be.

As with all presidents, it’s the people behind the president who run things. How can obama run a country when he didn’t meet with or call his cabinet members for his first two years in office, but he met with and talked with union, socialist, and Muslim officials EVERY DAY. Those are the marionettes who are pulling his strings.

PLEASE ANSWER TWO QUESTIONS
(1) I don’t remember any of you liberals justifying why it is OK with you for obama to have a civilian security force that is as strong as, and equally funded as the military, and are you willing to pay for it?

(2) Are you OK with the different federal departments buying as much ammo and guns as they are? That is enough ammo, that if you figure how much ammo was used in Iraq and Afghanistan for one year, it is enough ammo to fight a 20 year war, or to shoot EVERY PERSON IN THE USA 5 times. Why buy it all at once, instead of figuring how much they need in reserve, and replacing it as needed?

Smorgasbord
when you listen to all the TOM’S answers and opinions,
it tell us that yes the end is close,
it tell us, the indoctrination has work and the campaigns hit the the core better than a drone,
and tell us that the bar must be lifted more than a few notchs to counter the devastation and lost,
RAND PAUL, IS THE GUY FOR AMERICA WITH HIS CREW HE WILL PREVAIL TO BRING BACK THE YOUTH MIND IN THE AMERICA THEY LOST,
IT WILL TAKE HOT IRONS TO BURN THE CANCER OUT,
and heal the sick youth, by exposing
the corrupts and traitors,

@ilovebeeswarzone: #48
We all have the right to follow anybody we want. We also have the right NOT to follow anybody we don’t want to. I choose NOT to follow obama, and I am sure it is the right choice for me.

Smorgasbord
yes and the tragedy is on the young people which are vulnerable,
and want so much to follow images of what is right and beautiful and talk with easy words
and promises, and instigate hate and greed and envy to those young
by teaching anti AMERICANS VALUES , WHICH THE CONSTITUTION WARNED THE PEOPLE
ALONG THE CENTURY NOT TO ACCEPT,
LOOK AT THE NUMBER STILL RAISING HIGHER OF THE FELONS, FULL OF YOUNG PEOPLE
WHO DID FOLLOW THE WRONG PATH , ONCE AND GOT CAUGHT AND LABEL AS FELONS
FOR LIFE,
SOME SAY IT CAN BE PARDON, THAT IS NOT DONE, MAYBE ONLY A FEW,
BUT WE HAVE THE PROOF THEY ARE BRANDED AND CANNOT FIND A JOB, BECAUSE OF HAVING FOLLOWED A GOOD TALKER LEADING THEM INTO CRIMINAL ACTIONS THEY PAY FOR LIFE,