Republican ‘Old Guard’ Rips Into Rand Paul

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The old guard….that old guard that gave us McCain and Romney to sacrifice at the altar of Obama, knowing full well they would lose….is at it again pulling out the knives and placing them into the backs of the new guard. The guard that has actual idea’s, that actually has courage, that is willing to take on the old crony’s.

Here’s Bill Kristol, that champion of the old guard:

Was it, as Seth Lipsky suggested in a column in the New York Post, “wonderful,” signifying both that “our country is in a constitutional moment” and “the rise of a new generation of Republican constitutional conservatives”? Or was it, as William Shakespeare wrote ahead of the fact, “full of sound and fury, signifying nothing”?

…Paul’s political genius strikes us as very much of the short-term variety. Will it ultimately serve him well to be the spokesman for the Code Pink faction of the Republican party? How much staying power is there in a political stance that requires waxing semihysterical about the imminent threat of Obama-ordered drone strikes against Americans sitting in cafés? And as for the other Republican senators who rushed to the floor to cheer Paul on, won’t they soon be entertaining second thoughts? Is patting Rand Paul on the back for his fearmongering a plausible path to the presidency for Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz? Is embracing kookiness a winning strategy for the Republican party? We doubt it.

How odd that Kristol takes the McCain “kooky” attack stance when it’s abundantly clear that Paul meant, as he stated time and time again during his 12 hour monologue, that he didn’t believe Obama was going to drone someone at a coffee shop but rather the inherent risk is giving this power of “judge, jury, and executioner” to future presidents decades and/or centuries into the future.

It would of course be unfair to compare Rand Paul to Macbeth—unfair both to Paul’s lawfulness and to Macbeth’s greatness (of a kind). It would be unfair to compare conservative talk radio to Lady Macbeth, just because both recklessly egg on their heroes. But it’s true that a Republican party that follows the path of Rand Paul will end up as thoroughly defeated at the ballot box as Macbeth was routed on the battlefield of Dunsinane. And as deservedly so.

Yes, because we so thoroughly defeated the Democrats in 2008 and 2012. We won the White House and gained seats in the Senate following the old guard of the Republican party…..oh wait.

But there is another course for Republicans. It’s increasingly clear, just two months into his second term, that President Obama has overreached on behalf of a rhetorically tired and substantively discredited agenda. “We still have judgment here.” Liberalism will be ripe for the judgment of the American people in 2014 and in 2016.

But you can’t beat something with nothing. The filibusterer from Kentucky has had “his hour upon the stage.” When will other, more serious, Republican dramatis personae step forward?

In other words when will APPROVED Republicans step forward?

The old guard continues to disapprove of grass roots tea party Republicans, or anyone that doesn’t toe the line that the “brilliant” politicians like Boehner, McCain and Graham approve. We have come so far because of them you see.

Sigh…..

Curt served in the Marine Corps for four years and has been a law enforcement officer in Los Angeles for the last 24 years.

35 Responses to “Republican ‘Old Guard’ Rips Into Rand Paul”

  1. 26

    retire05

    @SkippingDog:

    I don’t offer any advice at all to you Tea Party wingnuts.

    Wingnuts? WoW! You really have drank the left wing media Koolaide, haven’t you? So I assume it is safe to say that you don’t agree with the TEA Party’s goal of fiscal responsiblity on the part of our government?

    The Tea Party is nothing more than a gussied up and regurgitated contemporary version of the old John Birch Society. It has the same “principles,” the same goals, many of the same members, and probably the same funding sources as the old JBS. It’s probably got the same antisemitic streak as well.

    You really don’t have a clue about the TEA Party, do you? So you just regurgitate old left wing talking points, i.e. talking out of your ass. Since you seem to think that you are so well informed about something you obviously have never been involved in, why don’t you inform all us low information people what the goals of the TEA Party actually are? Dig out your little Democrat talking points and show us how well informed you are because I know that people who walk around with pocket sized Constitutions are scary to people like you.

    Now, just to be clear; I don’t know anyone who belongs to the JBS, and I have never supported JBS. I didn’t like Ron Paul, who was their key note speaker at their annual confabs for many years (Ron Paul has decended into senilty) and I loath Lew Rockwell. That pretty much leaves me out of their little group when I have no use the for the JBS’ main guys. So once again, you are talking out of your lower oriface.

    But I do understand why you left wingers are afraid of the TEA Party and its goals of trying to bring about fiscal sanity in our federal government. You understand that the Saul Alinsky method has worked quite well for Democrats, and it scares the hell out of you that those very same tactics can be used against Democrats. You can’t afford to have the silent majority actually using their voices. Status quo, i.e. more spending, more government dependency, more abolition of our Constitutional rights, that’s what you statists subscribe to.

    Then you go off on some tirade about Buckley. Nice try at redirection, but no cigar.

    I am sure you would be more confortable with like minded people, say, the OWS crowd. But I hate to tell you this, since I am sure it will depress you, but Americans are waking up to the goals, and actions, of Democrats who are nothing more than socialist Progressives. One by one, your bunch has tried to erode our Constitutionally guaranteed (not granted) liberties, and you are starting to get push back and you don’t like it. Not one damn bit. So you put out false statements about groups, and their goals, to try to persuade others that they are dangerous. It ain’t working, Bubba. With the advent of internet news and blogs, the old guard is failing to get out the progressive message, and when they do, it is immediately challenged. People no longer trust the old media, and now get their news from the internet and blogs, just like this one.

    For those like you, your days are numbered.

  2. 27

    ilovebeeswarzone

    retire05
    i could not have done better,
    that’s why you are one important person at FLOPPING ACES,
    AND I KNOW YOU’RE NOT THE TYPE TO LET IT GO TO YOUR HEAD,
    THAT’S WHY I MENTION IT
    YES YOU DISTURB THE LIBS AND THOSE IN BED WITH THEM,
    THAT IS DAM GOOD,
    BECAUSE CONSERVATIVES ARE TOGETHER IN THEIR VALUES,
    OR OUT OF IT

  3. 28

    jainphx

    @Greg: Answerable maybe, but look how many times incombents win elections. They have the money and the backing of the Washington elites. No term limits is the only way. Why do we suffer with people like John Conyers for over a quarter century, no 6 years and out in the house, 12 years or less in the senate, or better yet two 4 year terms and out.

  4. 29

    Richard Wheeler

    @retire05: Question What years did you support and work for Ron Paul? What brought you to disown and become a detractor of Ron P?
    Seems Rand has worked in support of his dad’s presidential bids.Briefly ,the major differences in policy between them.Thanks RW

  5. 30

    ilovebeeswarzone

    BY THE WAY,
    THE CARDINAL FROM THIS USA IS IN LINE TO GET THE PAPACIE, WELL, THERE IS TWO FROM USA,
    AND THE FIRST IN LINE WAS TOLD, IS A HUMBLE CARDINAL FROM A NORTH QUEBEC SMALL TOWN, LAMOTTE,
    WHICH MANY DON’T EVEN KNOW WHERE IT IS,
    THAT WOULD BE NICE TO ELEVATE AN HUMBLE VERY SMART CARDINAL FROM THAT SMALL TOWN
    IN CANADA QUEBEC PROVINCE WHO LOVE MOOSE STEAK, AND FISHING, AND BATHING IN THE LAKE,
    WITH HIS BROTHERS WHO ARE AFRAID NOW TO LOOSE HIM AS A BROTHER,

  6. 31

    retire05

    @Richard Wheeler:

    @retire05: Question What years did you support and work for Ron Paul? What brought you to disown and become a detractor of Ron P?

    The special election of 1976 and the general election of 1978. But I was on the receiving end of his “news” letters that were filled with crap that I didn’t approve of, or support. Some of his comments were clearly racist, and I ain’t into that crap. Paul was, by 1978, going in a direction that I did not like. That and his association with Lew Rockwell and Murray Rothbard. Both are anti-Jewish, anti-Isreal. I am not.

    Seems Rand has worked in support of his dad’s presidential bids.Briefly ,the major differences in policy between them

    Of course Rand supported his father. Ron Paul IS his father, for Heaven’s sake. But Rand is quite clear, and has been quite vocal, that he and his father have different views, especially on foreign affairs. And I don’t believe in blood liable.

    I am not going to tell you that Rand will never become as looney as his father, but so far, I see no signs of that. But progressives want to label Rand by attaching him to Ron, yet were incensed when someone tried to do that with John/Bobby/Teddy Kennedy and their corrupt, morally bankrupct father.

  7. 32

    Smorgasbord

    @SkippingDog: #17

    I don’t offer any advice at all to you Tea Party wingnuts.

    Without a wingnut, or some other kind of nut, the bolt can’t hold anything together. Us wingnuts are just trying to hold the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights together, but you leftists keep turning the nut to the left on a right handed bolt.

    The Tea Party is nothing more than a gussied up….

    The only time we get gussied up is when we are in costume or character. The person who wrote the book, “Grandma’s Not Shovel-Ready”, thought I was gussied up enough for him to put my picture on page 56, otherwise I’m a jeans and western shirt guy. I don’t even own a suit.

    If you are against the things WE, THE TEA PARTY are for, then that means you are agains:

    (1) Lower taxes.
    (2) Reducing the size of government.
    (3) Merging all of the welfare agencies together so freeloaders can’t get money from each one.
    (4) Making people work for their welfare money.
    (5) Eliminating most of the perks for the politicians.
    (6) Stopping them from setting their own wage amount.
    (7) Defending yourself with a gun if you are attacked.
    (8) Someone coming to your aid with a gun if you or your family are attacked. Oh, I forgot. A whistle is all you need for protection from (7) and (8).
    (9) Etc., etc., etc.

  8. 35

    ilovebeeswarzone

    Pearl
    yes, you are right on,
    I like RAND PAUL,
    he’s going places, and he is using the same channel to counteract the lies of the opponent,
    he is very smart and respectful of the PEOPLE, he love this Country the right way,
    that is to help the people succeed and get jobs to earn their chance to get their dream come true.
    bye

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