Gun-Grabbing Madness: Chicago Murder Rate Tops Afganistan War Death Toll

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Chicago, one of the best test cases for gun control in the nation, has a murder rate exceeding the war in Afghanistan and coming close to the death rate in Iraq:

The death toll by murder in Chicago over the past decade is greater than the number of American forces who have died in Afghanistan since the beginning of Operation Enduring Freedom, according to a police analysis.

In addition, police reports in Chicago – where President Obama once worked as a community organizer and where his former chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, now serves as mayor – show most of the city’s massive murder mayhem is black-on-black crime.

A WND review of the Chicago Police Department Murder Analysis reports from 2003 to 2011 provides a statistical breakdown of the demographics of both the victims and offenders in the 4,265 murders in Chicago over that time period.

Of the victims of murder in Chicago from 2003 to 2011, an average of 77 percent had a prior arrest history, with a high of 79 percent of the 436 murdered in Chicago in 2010 having arrest histories.

For the same 2003-2011 period, blacks were the victims of 75 percent of 4,265 murders. Blacks also were the offenders in 75 percent of the murders.

…Operation Enduring Freedom, the name for the war in Afghanistan, which started Oct. 7, 2001, has seen a total of 2,166 killed. The war has been ongoing for 11 years, 3 months and one week.

Operation Iraqi Freedom, the name for the war in Iraq, which started March 20, 2003, and ended Dec. 15, 2011, saw a total of 4,422 killed.

In a city with some of the toughest gun control laws in America, where a handgun cannot be purchased, Fox News reported that Chicago Police Supt. Garry McCarthy “acknowledged aiming at assault weapons misses the mark when dealing with Chicago’s gang violence.”

“The weapon used is generally a handgun, and rarely is it purchased through legal channels,” he said.

What’s that you say? “Assault weapons” (whatever that means) are rarely used, and most of the guns are illegally acquired?

Who woulda thunk it.

The gun laws did nothing to prevent criminals from acquiring guns and a much more indicative statistic is that 75% of the victims were black and 75% of the suspects were black in a city where the black population is 33%. Chicago should be doing something about THAT instead of passing laws that prevent law abiding people from protecting themselves.

Instead we have politicians signing bills that take guns away from citizens, and pay for it even in deep deep blue cities. Even in Chicago the courts have ruled that the broad concealed gun ban was unconstitutional

NRA President Wayne LaPierre laid it out perfectly today at the hearing. Criminals and the insane DO NOT abide by the law. How hard is this for people to understand?

I wasn’t a NRA member until this gun grabbing madness started…now I’m proud to be one.

Curt served in the Marine Corps for four years and has been a law enforcement officer in Los Angeles for the last 24 years.

33 Responses to “Gun-Grabbing Madness: Chicago Murder Rate Tops Afganistan War Death Toll”

  1. 1

    Nan G

    Hadiya Pendleton, 15, was a majorette who performed with other Chicago students at President Barack Obama’s inaugural events just the other day.
    Now, she’s dead.
    Shot to death in broad daylight at a park in Chicago.
    The group of about 20 who were with her when she was murdered will not cooperate with police.
    Seems she and they were sort of gang related.

    The only reason her death is getting any mainstream media coverage is her recent association with Obama.
    Check out her name and these news outlets:
    New York Daily News
    CBS News
    Washington Examiner
    Sacramento Bee

    BUT….if guns are illegal in Chicago……how did this happen?

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    “The death toll by murder in Chicago over the past decade is greater than the number of American forces who have died in Afghanistan since the beginning of Operation Enduring Freedom” Who would have thunk, I mean I haven’t read or seen banner headlines listing daily body counts since obama took over. HUM

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    Nan thanks for pointing out that this “might” be gang related, since less than 10% of homicides in the USA are in that group it is always a good idea to highlight those that are gang related. As far as comparing the total number of gun deaths in the US (including suicides) of 30,000 per year only WW II combat would be greater, at about 50,000. Americans have always been more tolerant of being killed by a US citizen than by a foreigner. About 4000 vets vets kill themselves each year, at least 50% do so with a gun. I think that this is a terrible shame.
    Nan this article specifically says she was NOT gang related. As to whether anyone is cooperating it is often standard operating procedure to say no one is. Both for their safety/privacy and to avoid alerting the suspect.

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    he cannot help stop the murders in his own town where he was a community organizer,
    how can he pretend to know how to fix the problem of criminals and mentaly sicks shooting
    in mass,
    OBAMA has no clue, nothing to show he can’t help figure the criminal
    he doesn’t have nothing to show for it,
    and compare to the law abiding citizens and the business selling those guns who demand a background,
    to any buyers, they are doing a better job,
    Obama is not going to touch the source where the criminals get their guns that’s where they should look
    there where the underground he surely is aware of by his work in the CHICAGO community
    where they know where all that is illegal can be obtain by any criminal and deranged human
    in CHICAGO IS OBAMA hometown,
    start there and leave the other town alone, than we will see how successful you are.

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    Since Bloomberg News suggests GDP is an imperfect measure of progress and prefers “social progress or human happiness” we should define what progress or happiness is in terms of an easily identified standard.

    Human Happiness Index = # of troop deaths in Afghanistan / # of murders in Chicago

    2,166 / 4,265 = .508

    Rahm Emanuel has a lot of work ahead of him and I suspect that there aren’t enough food stamps in the entire US that would influence that index.

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  8. 11

    Richard Wheeler

    NanG To say this murdered young honor student was “sort of gang related” is pretty ugly even by your standards. You wanna follow up on that.

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    Richard Wheeler

    Bees Seems NanG is saying Hadiya is PERSONALLY gang related. An ugly and I believe unfounded accusation against an accomplished young lady who can’t defend herself against such slander.
    BTW Arrested shooters have stated they misidentified the group they shot at.

  10. 15

    Richard Wheeler

    colddeadhands NanG falsely accused this deceased 15 year old honor student of being gang related. For what purpose. Because she performed at the inauguration? Chickenshit! How would you feel if she did that to your murdered child?
    Semper Fi

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    Nan G

    The SHOOTING was gang related.
    The girl was another innocent bystander….this time hanging out in a gang-infested park.
    Now, maybe 15 year-olds are too naive to recognize gang territory…..even in Chicago.
    But why did ”her friends” fail to cooperate with police?
    Because they were planning to get back at the shooter’s gang AS A GANG?
    Or why?

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    @Nan G:

    But why did ”her friends” fail to cooperate with police?
    Because they were planning to get back at the shooter’s gang AS A GANG?
    Or why?

    For those who aren’t versed in Nan-style code, let me translate:
    Why didn’t her gang/black friends cooperate with police when they knew exactly who the gang/black murder of their gang/black friend was? Must be be gang/black thing.

  13. 18

    Nan G

    Tom, you MUST be a racist.
    You think only white people cooperate with police?
    We had a shooting over here last year, a kid on a bicycle with a rifle on his handlebars drove across the intersection and shot at the drug dealer (different gang) who had just set up shop on the corner.
    His aim sucked.
    He hit the dealer on the calf.
    He also had other shots that flew past about three people on the street.
    2 black, one white.
    The white male and the blacks on the street all filed reports.
    The drug dealer refused to cooperate with police….instead he had a little gathering of his buddies in an alley.
    They went out looking for the shooter’s gang to retaliate.
    The police were able to catch the shooter, catch at least four of the dealer’s potential shooters all with illegal weapons, and bust the dealer.
    All because the police had a bit of cooperation.
    What can police do if they don’t get cooperation?
    94% of all shootings in Chicago go without a subsequent arrest.
    Not so elsewhere.

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    Richard Wheeler

    Nan The police did NOT say the after school group she was with was a gang. You assume all black kids in Chicago are gang members? Like me assuming all whites in Long Beach are white trash—which I don’t.
    To paint this beautiful accomplished teenager as gang related is wrong.
    Even worse than the smearing of the 102 year old lady in Dr.J’s post.

    Memo You got 3+ more years of an African American POTUS.Then if you’re smart you may get a Cuban American POTUS. My guess is the far right will screw it up and we’ll get our first Female POTUS.

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    @Nan G:

    I don’t know what the hell those bullet points mean. There’s a new thing called paragraphs, by the way. Here’s my problem with your post(s): your assumption that the victim and her friends are involved in “A GANG” . Prove it.

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    @Richard Wheeler:

    Memo You got 3+ more years of an African American POTUS.

    Really, Richard? Or have you forgotten that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. had a 100% white mother? Wouldn’t that make him the first bi-racial POTUS? Or do you subscribe to the one drop rule? Even if he is half white, half black a person must be considered African American.?

    The problem, that you liberals want to ignore is the fact that black on black crime is escalating in Chicago. These are not white gang members killing innocent blacks; they are other blacks. In California, your own state, you have Hispanic gangs going to war with black gangs. It is out of control. Yet, the Democrat leaders of those two states seem incapable of doing anything about those gang wars that take innocent lives, irrespective of skin tone.
    Oh, yes, the police arrest some of the Mexican mafia, a few here, a few there, but what hard action is really being taken to do anything about these gangs?

    The DoJ just released a statement about the Compton 155 gang who labels themselves as NKs (n!gger killers) and who terrorize black residents of Compton, driving them out of what the Compton 155 gang consider their territory. When black children were refused entry into a school in Arkansas, President Eisenhower, a white Republican, sent a 1,000 troops to Little Rock to make sure those black children could enter the school. Yet, here we have a bi-racial president who has done not one thing to protect those black citizens of Compton from Hispanic gangs or has the African-American mayor of Chicago called for federal troops to deal with the black gangs who are racking up more kills in Chicago than Al Capone did.

    Black on black crime has reached record levels, and black on white crime is increasing. And most of it is gang related. Yet, the politicians you support seem to turn a blind eye and do nothing. One year, not long ago, St. Louis was the most dangerous city in America. Black on black crime was rampant. St. Louis had a black mayor and a black Chief of Police, and they refused to get the crime under control. St. Louis is still dangerous, but has been knocked off the list of “Most Dangerous City in the U.S.” by Chicago.

    It is not racist to say that if this were white gangs racking up so much carnage, the nation would be screaming for federal troops to go in and clean out those cities. But political correctness will allow more and more children, especially black children, to be offered up on its alter. Minority status trumps all, even if it means that other minority children are slaughtered.

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    Richard Wheeler

    Retire05 The “one drop rule?” You make that up? BHO calls himself African American.Good enough for me.Kinda like he says he was born in Hawaii.
    I’m well aware of the extent of black on black crime. Does that give one the right to call this honor student “gang related” Shameful bigotry.

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    Because thats snitchin , then the otha gang gon come back for you for gettin they boy arrested … And you lose all respect in the hood from everybody ..

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    you said sniching?
    I say courage to expose the gang doing crimes,
    because the one know the consequenses of his courage to tell the wrong,
    but first he has to secure himself or herself, and expose to the right person,
    not on FACEBOOK for all to know, but he has to tell to one authority who will not tell,
    but is able to get the criminals away for a long time,
    squeeling is necessary in that case, for the best of the other,
    not saying is cowardly,

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    TOM AND Richard Wheeler
    you missed on a WORD
    Nan said “related”
    which mean many things,
    ex: I am related to my brother, my mother, my sister, my father, my aunt,
    my uncle, my niece ,my nephew, my teacher, my friend, my neignbor
    excetera, excetera,
    not the one who you attack

  21. 27

    Richard Wheeler

    @ilovebeeswarzone: In #1 Nan said young lady and her friends were “sort of gang related” for which there is NO evidence. In #16 she clarified that SHOOTING was gang related which it was.
    You say you are related to your teacher and your neighbor. How so?

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    Richard Wheeler
    am I wrong to say, the WORD RELATED, IS EQUAL TO RELATION,
    relationship, acquainted to,
    neighbors yes meaning sharing the space with, that is a relation,
    from the book is the way one is standing in relation to the other,
    how about the gang is related to me because the chief sister is in my class and my best friend

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    Richard Wheeler
    how about you are related to me because of our sharing debates on this blog,

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    Richard Wheeler

    Bees : Related to (brother), is different than having a relationship with (neighbor).
    As far as is known, Hadiya was not related to, or have a relationship with gangsters.
    We are not related.Do we have a relationship through F.A.?
    I’d call us friendly (mostly)

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    Richard Wheeler
    good or bad, it’s a contact, which is a relation,
    when we fight, we relate to each other,
    the neighbor could have a relation doing thing like mow the lawn, pick up the pooh from his neighbord while yelling cuss words
    at the two golden retrievers

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