Finally, a Sensible Gun Control Solution [Reader Post]

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I’ve intentionally avoided this topic since it seems almost every possible angle has been explored, and everyone has some solution that will leave one side angry and for the most part, the other side unsatisfied. What nobody seems to be looking at is a real solution, that can only be found if we strip away all of the rhetoric and look at the fundamentals of what each side really wants:

Conservatives: The right to directly protect themselves, their family, and property from those who would do them harm.

Leftists: The right to indirectly have themselves, their family, and property protected from those who would do them harm.

Yes, both sides’ arguments are far more complicated but I think that both of my statements are at the root of almost all of the debates. So why not find a solution that satisfies the needs of both sides?

We have plenty of housing developments being built in this country – why not begin designating some as gun free communities? And if there is enough demand for these communities we could incorporate gun free townships. The predominately leftist Washington, DC area already has nearby two such planned towns in Columbia, MD and Reston, VA. This would be a perfect region to start another. This would place all of the anti-gun crowd in an enclave where they know that none of their neighbors will be armed with guns, save for local law enforcement. To see if such a planned community could work I would place one other caveat: the gun free zones would not be allowed to have any additional police protection beyond what other communities have. To see if such an experiment could work we need to have an apples to apples comparison. Naysayers would argue that places that already have strict gun laws, like Chicago, DC, or New York have such problems because guns already exist in those communities. Here is a chance to start from scratch. Finally, there is no longer any worry that your neighbor might be one of those crazed gun nuts! And I have a feeling that your gun owning neighbor won’t shed too many tears when you leave.

Given the historical effectiveness of gun free zones, or countries, in declaring such zones to curb violence, what could possibly go wrong?

Here is a chance for the anti-gun left to get what they truly want – freedom from accountability for personal safety while ensuring that lethal force is effectively monopolized by the state. And it can be done in a way that doesn’t restrict the freedom of others. After all, the proponents for gun restriction’s motive is helping people, not controlling them…right?

Cross posted from Brother Bob’s Blog

Blogging by the credo of "Making the world a more offensive place, one blog post at a time", Brother Bob started writing posts around the beginning of the Obama presidency over at Brother Bob's Blog. A born-again Existentialist and self-professed libertarian with conservative tendencies, he has ironically chosen to live in the Washington, DC area - deep behind enemy lines. He has always loved history, and spent eight years volunteering as a tour guide on weekends, giving over 200 tours to roughly 2,500 mostly foreign guests. His tours were highlighted by stories generally not found in the history books or most other tours, such as the importance of the Battle if Antietam, the origins or Arlington Cemetery, and dispelling the myths of FDR's New Deal. Although his favorite subject to blog about is Economics, as seen in his Economics for Politicians series, his posts try to address angles that other conservative writers and the mainstream media (naturally!) miss. "There's no point in putting up a post on a subject that someone smarter than me has already written". He believes in the "Happy Warrior" approach, and tries to inject humor in his posts, sometimes successfully. Two such examples are his posts comparing the modern left to the horrible Star Wars prequels, and analyzing the laments of a DC woman in search of a feminist boyfriend. Brother Bob lives with his very patient wife known as Sister Babe, and their fantastic son. Little Bob. Little Bob is also the reason that being a tour guide came to an end, as spending Saturdays raising a son takes priority over giving lectures to foreign visitors on the folly of Keynesian economics. BB is also grateful for the opportunity to take his place among the outstanding writers at Flopping Aces, appreciates every person who takes the time to read his posts, and especially those who join him in the conversation in the comments.

39 Responses to “Finally, a Sensible Gun Control Solution [Reader Post]”

  1. 26

    kevino

    @GAI:

    Massachusetts is bad, but not that bad. Many town will not allow you to have a pistol permit, but you can easily get a firearms id card that will entitle you to acquire a shotgun. Not as ggood as a handgun, but it’s better than defending your home with a knife or a golf club. For home defense, get a short (18.5″) barrel and consider putting a light on the front. Do not use a rifle: flash, blast, and over penetration make it ineffective. Also, a 12-guage is not a requirement: consider a 20-guage. It has as much muzzle energy as a .44 magnum, and it’s easier to control — especially for your wife.

    And practice, practice, practice.

  2. 29

    Redteam

    @kevino: If an intruder were attempting to enter my house, I think they would be much more deterred if they knew I were pointing a shotgun at them than if it were a pistol. But I prefer to own both.

  3. 30

    johngalt

    @Redteam:

    I don’t think individual states should be able to change gun owner qualifications.

    Under the Constitution, they cannot.

    Article VI

    This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

    Meaning, that unless the particular law follows directly what federal law holds, or abides by the US Constitution, a State cannot limit the rights of a legal citizen of the US, more strictly than federal law and the Constitution allows. This has been used in several cases in the past to strike down State law, including some 2nd Amendment issue cases.

    If you have rights under the Constitution of the US, those rights cannot be abridged, or infringed upon, by any State within these United States.

  4. 31

    ilovebeeswarzone

    johngalt
    hi,
    could it be that he is making a lot of blah blah and those signatures on the gun topic,
    to cover up what the other topic is being study by his many lawyers,
    which is even more dangerous than the today signatures,
    that is the destruction of the 14 amendment ,
    bye

  5. 32

    ilovebeeswarzone

    johngalt
    I just saw from TURNER OLD MOVIES THE OLIVER CROMWELL LIFE STORY,FROM ENGLAND,
    IT A MUST SEE FOR ALL IN THE POLITIC, THE ELECTED TO HIGH OFFICES,
    I am very impress of it’s story , that’s why I came to recommend it,
    he had the last KING OF ENGLAND BEHEADED FOR CORRUPTION AND TREASON ON THE PEOPLE
    AND COLLABORATOR IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES TO START AN ARMY TO FIGHT HIS CITIZENS
    WHO HAD TURNED AGAINST HIM, HE DEMOTED THE CORRUPT PARLEMENT FOR WRONG RULING TO HURT THE PEOPLE,
    HE TOOK OVER AND RULE FOR 5 YEARS UNTIL HE DIED,
    AND THE NEW KINGDOM OF ENGLAND BEGAN AGAIN IN A WELL TAKEN CARE COUNTRY WHICH OLIVER LEFT RICH AND EDUCATED AND UNITED
    WOW, NOW IT’S TALKING TO YOU , AND TO ALL AMERICANS,
    BYE

  6. 33

    Redteam

    @johngalt: but they do it, New York just passed a new assault weapon(supposedly) ban. I don’t see how one state can control my rights to gun ownership if the state I live in gives me a right. If I have a concealed weapon permit in Georgia, I should be able to go anywhere in the US with that permit and weapon. If I can’t, then there has been a law passed that restricts my right to own and carry a gun, as a US citizen. I think the law should be changed to require EVERYONE to own a gun.

  7. 34

    Redteam

    Wait a minute: this can’t be right! The new New York law limits magazines to 7 rounds, the same as everyone else. Now they say that’s a mistake and they will correct it and make it 15 rounds for current and RETIRED law enforcement officers. What the hell? How does a ‘RETIRED’ law enforcement officer rate more rounds than I do? These people are crazy…..

  8. 35

    Ditto

    Crazy? Hard to say, but it is clearly an unconstitutional regulation if a “retired” law enforcement officer is allowed a bigger magazine. There is no guarantee that a retired law enforcement is any more trustworthy or “mentally stable” than any other citizen.

    Note: a reminder to California, New York and Illinois: In McDonald v. City of Chicago, The SCOTUS held that state and local governments are just as restricted by the Second Amendment as the federal government is. With the consideration that the law applies equally to all, by modifying it’s recently passed law in regards to “retired” law enforcement officers, it sets a high likelihood that at least this portion will not pass a Constitutional test. The SCOTUS has yet to drawn a line of just how far the Second Amendment may be infringed upon by gun control legislation.

  9. 36

    Scott in Oklahoma

    @Redteam… as a retired law enforcement officer, all I can say is “I got mine” 🙂

    @Ditto… I’m not sure if New York, California and Illinois are in the same country as Olahoma and others out here in flyoverland.

  10. 37

    ilovebeeswarzone

    I have to put this somewhere, so here it is;
    AN SPCA LOCAL HAD TO EUTHANIZE ALL THEIR CATS WHO WHERE FOR ADOPTION,
    BECAUSE THE ALL HAVE BEEN FOUND POSITIVE ON A FLUE LIKE VERY INFECTIOUS DIDEASE
    CALL PANLEUKOPENIA VIRUS IS THE FELINE EQUIVALENT TO PARVORIUS FOR DOGS,
    THE CATS VIRUS AFFECT ALSO FERRETS AND MINKS, THIS ONE NO THREAT TO DOGS,
    AND COULD BE TRANSMIT FROM ANIMAL TO ANIMAL AND TO HUMAN TO ANIMAL,
    THE SYMPTOMS LIKE THE COMMON COLD, THEN MORE SEVERE SIGN OF ILLNES THEY CALL THE VET
    WHO ORDER ALL TO BE EUTHANIZE
    THE VIRUS CAN SURVIVE FOR LONGER THAN A YEAR IN CERTAIN ENVIRONMENTS
    IT IS THE ONLY WAY TO END THE PROPAGATION AND TO CLEAN ALL THE SHELTER WITH ANTI VIRUS SOAP LIKE DISENFECTANTS CLEANER, AT LEAST 3 TIMES.
    THE VACCINE IS NOT FOOLPROOF THEY SAY.
    EVEN with the proper shots, cat can still pick up the virus

  11. 38

    ilovebeeswarzone

    JIM MESSINA IS RALLYING ALL THE OBAMA FOLLOWERS TO
    A NEW ORGANISATION FOR OBAMA’ FOLLOWERS TO A PUBLIC SHOW OF POWER,
    HE SAID THAT ,WE DON’T KNOW ABOUT THE NEXT PRESIDENT BUT WE ALL ARE FOR OBAMA,
    SNIP

    WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU, IF YOU HEARD ABOUT THEM LOOKING IN TO THE 14 AMENDMENTS TO BE NEUTRALIZE, SO TO KEEP OBAMA ON THE THRONE ALONG WITH ALL THIS CROWD OF DEMOCRATES OBAMIST

  12. 39

    ilovebeeswarzone

    there is a talk about banning the bible for the inauguration,
    what’s a matter? is OBAMA afraid to swear on the BIBLE AN OATH THAT HE WILL BREACH,
    TO FIX HIS AGENDA,

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