Obama is “urging” Netanyahu to stop any planned ground invasion of Gaza…I'm hoping Netanyahu told him to get bent:
Though President Obama uttered immediate and firm public and private assurances that Israel has a right to defend itself from rocket attacks emanating from Gaza, administration officials have been privately urging Israeli officials not to extend the conflict, a move that many American officials believe could benefit Hamas.
A protracted escalation, the officials fear, could damage Israel’s already fragile relationships with Egypt and Jordan at a time when both of those governments have been coming under pressure from their own populations.
Yes Prime Minister, please ignore the hundreds of missiles launched into your country. They really aren't hurting anybody right?
And for what? To “save” relationships with countries that want to see you obliterated from the face of the earth?
You gotta be kidding me.
This President and his policies have helped to completely destabilize the middle east and as a result Israel is completely surrounded:
• Libya is supplying Hamas with the most advanced weaponry it's ever had
• Iran's Green Revolution was crushed by the Mullahs with the tacit approval of Barack Obama
• Egypt — an ostensible ally of the U.S. and Israel — was thrown under the bus by Barack Obama, ceding control of the country to the erstwhile Nazi-aligned Muslim Brotherhood
• Algeria and Tunisia are likewise aligning with Al Qaeda
• Jordan, Israel's last regional ally — is also about to fall
• And Turkey, once a secular and stabilizing force in the Middle East, is now succumbing to a radical brand of Islamism. Even better: it's a member of NATO
Israel is surrounded.
Israel understands this better than anyone. Calling up 75,000 reserves shows the world that they are prepared to go to war, on two fronts, if need be. The last war with Hamas they buy cheap generic cialisrticle.aspx?id=292272″>only called up 10,000. You think they understand how different the landscape is now thanks to Obama?
Stratfor believes the second front, Iran and Hezbollah, isn't willing to do battle just yet tho:
Though Iran would welcome the opportunity to demonstrate the spectrum of its militant proxy strength, especially after supplying Hamas with the long-range Fajr-5 rockets that have been targeting Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, Hezbollah will likely be extremely cautious in deciding whether to participate in this war. The group's fate is linked to that of the embattled regime of Syrian President Bashar al Assad; should Syria fracture along sectarian lines, Lebanon is likely to descend into civil war, and Hezbollah will have to conserve its strength and resources for a battle at home against its sectarian rivals. Indeed, Hezbollah has already been preparing for such a scenario by seizing control of villages along the Orontes River Basin in order to maintain connectivity with Syria's Alawite community.
Makes sense when all they have to do is to keep re-supplying Hamas anyways:
Lebanon's Al Akhbar, a site associated with Hezbollah, reports that Hezbollah is in contact with Hamas to replenish its arsenal of long-range rockets that has been reportedly decimated by Israeli airstrikes.
The report says that on Friday an alert was sounded in the ranks of Hezbollah and the Iranian Revolutionary Guards. It was raised towards all those who know how to smuggle weapons from Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Sudan and other countries to the Gaza Strip.
During the first hours of the fighting, there was communication between Hezbollah and the terror factions in Gaza, especially Hamas, to determine the size of the damage done to the stores of long-range missiles. Lebanese and Palestinian terror groups along with the Iranian Revolutionary Guards are working to supply groups in Gaza, in anticipation of a prolonged battle. According to the report, the focus is on the transfer of large amounts of long-range missiles.
But all hope isn't lost. Obama is just a phone call away to “urge” Israel to capitulate…er, I mean to promote a cease fire:
Israel is currently negotiating a cease-fire with Palestinians in the Gaza Strip to take effect later in the night, sources told Channel 2 on Saturday night.
Egyptian President Mohamad Morsi gave credence to the report, saying there are “some indications” of a cease-fire in Gaza, but that there were not yet any guarantees.
…The agreement is backed by Turkey, Qatar, Egypt and the United States, according to Channel 2.
Oh wait:
…[Hamas leader Khaled] Mashaal, according to the sources, set his movement’s conditions for a cease-fire. These include an Israeli pledge to stop “all forms of aggression, including assassinations, and lifting the blockade on the Gaza Strip.”
More red lines for Israel it seems…ain't gonna happen, shouldn't happen.
“The world tells Israel ‘wait, there’s still time.’ And I say, ‘Wait for what? Wait until when…Those in the international community who refuse to put red lines before Iran don’t have a moral right to place a red light before Israel…”
– Prime Minister Netanyahu
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Word#45 OUTSTANDING Good to have you back.
J.G.#31 ” Obama a godless Marxist” Seems you’ve doubled down and taken it to a new level, or is this what you’ve always believed just never stated so succinctly??
US WARSHIP ARE GOING TO ISRAEL AND MARINES ARE DEPLOYED IN THERE.
WOW
edit US WARSHIP ON ALERT,
MARINE MOVING TOWARD ISRAELI COAST,
TURKEY PM LABEL ISRAEL TERRORIST ON HAMAS.
BRINK OF WAR INTENSIFIED FROM BOTH HAMS AND ISRAEL,
THIS IS DANGEROUS FOR ISRAEL THEY ARE SUROUNDED BY ENEMIES ,EGYPT, TURKEY,
HAMAS IRAN LIBYA AND THE ALQAEDA,
IT LOOK TO ME THEY ARE TRYING THEIR ARAB SPRING ON ISRAEL,
THEY ARE SENDING MESSAGES TO ISRAEL PEOPLE TO REVOLT.
@Smorgasbord:
I suppose the original Annenberg FactCheck site will also be dismissed as “left leaning”; but seriously….I consider this good enough to be renamed “RealityCheck.org”.
Such as? Can you provide me links?
As I indicated earlier: I believe religion doesn’t play a central role in President Obama’s personal life. It’s more for political convenience. Which is why I don’t believe he “sat” for 17 yrs attending Reverend Wright’s sermons. I’m not sure how often he actually attended Trinity United Church of Christ; but it might be about as frequent as he attends church, now.
Most Americans who claim to be Christian (about 90% of Americans) don’t attend church on a regular basis. According to a Gallup poll, around 43%. I think the president is among the majority who identify with Christianity, but for whom the Bible is a “living, breathing document” and Sunday sermons are not as important as Sunday football.
These are most likely conservative, right-wing vets. No surprise there.
As has President Bush, who hosted the first Iftar dinner at the White House in 2001, and annually thereafter. President Bush attended mosque 6 days after 9/11.
And President Bush has hosted/met with Islamic leaders, including those with CAIR; and as we on the right know, CAIR is held under same suspicions of associations to the Muslim Brotherhood.
Conceded.
Well, the events of Benghazi are still being sorted and investigated. (As well, I’m sure, being “distorted” and armchair investigated by partisan idealogues).
@Richard Wheeler:
You’re hurting my right-wing credentials more than my comments are hurting my conservative credentials, everytime you compliment me, ya know? 😉
4 Los Angeles area men have been arrested for planning to bomb US government facilities and engage in ‘violent jihad’ against Americans.
Note their names and backgrounds:
Sohiel Omar Kabir, 34, introduced two other California men to the radical Islamist doctrine of Anwar al-Awlaki, a deceased al-Qaida leader.
Ralph Deleon, 23, and Miguel Alejandro Santana Vidriales, 21, converted to Islam in 2010 and began engaging with Kabir and others online in discussions about jihad, including posting radical content to Facebook and expressing extremist views in comments.
In one online conversation, Santana told an FBI undercover agent he wanted to commit jihad and expressed interest in a jihadist training camp in Jalalabad, Afghanistan.
….
Deleon told a confidential FBI source he wanted to be on the front lines overseas and use the explosive C-4 in an attack. Santana agreed.
“I wanna do C-4s if I could put one of these trucks right here with my, with that. Just drive into, like, the baddest military base,” Santana said, according to the complaint, adding that he wanted to use a large quantity of the explosive.
“If I’m gonna do that, I’m gonna take out a whole base. Might as well make it, like, big, ya know,” Santana said.
At the shooting range that day, both Santana and Deleon said they were excited about the rewards from becoming a shaheed – Arabic for martyr – according to the complaint.
….
They later recruited 21-year-old Arifeen David Gojali.
MORE:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/20/california-men-plot-al-qaida
Yes.
Two are young converts to Islam.
One Hispanic, the other from the Philippines.
Wanted to die for the parties they hear are thrown in Paradise.
@Liberal1 (Objectivity): #41
I still say Israel wants peace, and has given up land several time in the hope it will end the fighting. Hamas still says Israel has no right to exist.
@Pete: #44
You launched a bunch of rocked at Liberal 1. He’s going to have a hard time shooting them down, but I’m guessing he’s going to try.
@John Galt: Your ignorance of the left-wing heroes is amazing. Your statement is probably an example of why Republican Governor Jindal refers to the “dumbing down” of conservatives.
@Smorgasbord: A little research on the matter of ‘Israeli Greenhouses in Gaza’ would show that your depiction is not quite as accurate as you say. The Israelis actually sabotaged the project by tearing down 50% of the greenhouses, and letting the remaining crops dry up and die due to lack of water and care, during negotiation. Oh, but I forgot, you think Wikipedia and Snopes is a liberal plot. This view must really limit your access to knowledge, especially since you own source will ultimately show up on Wiki.
@Liberal1 (Objectivity): MSNBC, not a ”conservative” news outlet, has this to say from the Gazans at the time (2005) :
The damage happened AFTER the turnover, not before.
Note well, however, that the PA was supposed to rule Gaza.
Somehow Hamas ended up running Gaza instead.
Many PA loyalists were kneecapped by being shot from behind in both knees then prevented from medical care.
Many other PA loyalist (or even suspected PA loyalists) were defenestrated (thrown off of three or four story buildings and left to die if the fall didn’t kill them).
Hamas was even mentioned in that MSNBC article:
Years ago Yasser Arafat was offered 99% of all he wanted in exchange for peace with Israel…..Arafat refused.
People wondered why.
Arafat had been skimming billions off of the world’s money for ”his people.”
He had no interest in running a peacetime government, opening schools, hospitals, paving streets, etc.
He needed a scapegoat for why his people always seemed to be in want.
Israel was (and still is) that scapegoat.
Arafat’s widow held out (with her Swiss Bank Account Numbers Yasser had) until the new PA leadership agreed to her demands for $17 million a month for life.
@Liberal1 (Objectivity):
Let me get this straight….the people that built the greenhouses (the Israeli Settlers in Gaza) upon finding out they would not be paid for the greenhouses THEY BUILT dismantled said greenhouses and took them with. The Palestinians actually rejected a plan to pay the owners of the greenhouses.
It’s kind of like the Filipinos in Subic Bay when the US was leaving the Philippines. They had major plans to have one of the largest ship retrofitting terminals in the Pacific. It was a great plan, but the Philippine government didn’t want to pay any money for the dry docks. Imagine the looks on their faces when the US took their dry docks with them.
@Wordsmith: #57
Does this sound like the Peach Corps?
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DTt2yGzHfy7s
I can’t supply links to the different Muslim events Obama has had. I don’t save them, and some of them are from Fox News stories.
Since I’m not a church goer myself, I don’t care if a politician goes to any church or not. My concern is if I can trust them. Unfortunately, none of the presidents or congress members have always done the right thing at the right time. They have all made decisions that were best for them and not the country.
@Nan G:
I’ve never heard that. Guess I just heard what the NYTs wrote.
It really doesn’t matter to people like Lib1 though. If you have two nations, one rich and one poor, the reason the poor nation is poor is because the rich nation take advantage of it. Same thing here in the States. If you have a rich person and a poor person, the reason the poor person is poor is because the rich person took advantage of them.
@Aqua: .the people that built the greenhouses (the Israeli Settlers in Gaza) upon finding out they would not be paid for the greenhouses THEY BUILT dismantled said greenhouses and took them with.
You are correct about all but the more than 3,000 greenhouses that AMERICAN JEWS bought from Israeli’s living and working and HIRING Gazans in Gaza.
Those more than 3,000 greenhouses were the ones left in perfect working order.
THEY were the ones looters destroyed.
They were a gift that cost AMERICAN JEWS $14,000,000.
They would have supplied employment for thousands of Gazans.
They would have supplied food for Gazans as well as for export.
But they were destroyed by Gazans AFTER the turnover.
Facts and figures from:
Looters strip Gaza greenhouses
Facilities seen as key to Palestinians’ rebuilding of area vacated by Israelis
Liberal 1
check ON NAN FOR THE TRUTH ABOUT THE GREEN HOUSES,
and regurgitate your words
@Liberal1 (Objectivity): #63
The story I read on the greenhouses was many years ago, and I don’t remember where it was from. Was the land being negotiated who should own it, or did Israel give it to them as a peaceful gesture? The story I read said they gave the land to help end the fighting. The auther said this was done three separate times, and each time Hamas moved their rockets closer.
Each time I mention “land,” it makes me wonder if there is actually any land in Israel. I think of land as dirt.
About Wikipedia, I have read several stories where the author showed a screen grab of an earlier entry, then showed how it appeared at that time, and it had been edited to delete the questionable material. Even if the ones in charge of it are 100% trustworthy, I don’t trust a sight where millions of people are putting in the info. How do I know if what I am reading is accurate? I don’t. How do the owners of it check for accuracy, or do they?
I had an uncle who was in a book that I think was called, “Who’s Who,” and it said that he did so many great things that we know he didn’t. You had to pay to put in your info. I don’t know if the book is still published each year. I prefer to do a search on the Internet and read different articles to find info I am looking for.
Word #57 and #58 “Truth only reveals itself when one gives up all preconceived ideas” Shoseki
@Nan G: #64
Thanks for the info update. I love hearing both sides of a story. Now, which one should I believe?
@Aqua: #67
You reminded me of my suggestion to divide the USA in half. Republicans and democrats each get half. It is equally divided so both sides are exactly the same economicly. How long would it be before the USA would be like North and South Korea, North and South Vietnam, East and West Berlin, and which half would be the wealthier half? We could call it Left and Right America.
@Smorgasbord:
It wasn’t ”sabotage.”
Those greenhouses NOT paid for by American Jews were dismantled and all salvagable parts were moved to new locations inside Israel by their legal owners.
Those greenhouses paid for by American Jews for the people of Gaza were dismantled by looters AFTER the PA took control (laugh) of Gaza.
Here’s what the PA/Hamas did with the greenhouses:
http://bp1.blogger.com/__bXcoBLlLcQ/ReSM1bP2t2I/AAAAAAAAABU/U5hVRUhWE8w/s400/20061020TunnelGreenhouse01.jpg
Used their roofs as cover for their illegal smuggling tunnels.
@Liberal1 (Objectivity):
That’s ok that you couldn’t think of anything to say, I’ll forgive you this time.
You know that I’m correct and so does everyone else.
@Nan G: #74
At least the greenhouses were used and not totally abandoned or destroyed. LOL
I was thinking that again OBAMA led from behind in the ISRAELI CONFLICT
HE GAVE THE LEAD TO EGYPT, TO FIX THE ISRAELI PROBLEM,
I find this dangerous, we are still talking about the death of the heroes in benghasi, where there was also a revolt in EGYPT, THEY EVEN BURN THE IMAGE OF OBAMA THERE, WHILE THE ALQAEDA WHERE MURDERING THE AMBASSADOR AND THE SEALS IN LIBYA,
and ISRAEL IS SUPPOSE TO TAKE THE WORD OF THE EGYPT LEADER WHO GAVE HIS CREDENCIAL TO HAMAS AND HELP GETTING THE IRAN’S ROCKET S TO HAMAS TUNNELS,
THEY DON’T CARRY ANY CREDIBILITY, EVEN TURKEY SAID ISRAEL WAS TERRORIST,
SO it seems that OBAMA will make the same mistake by believing the EGYPT LEADER TO PREVENT HAMAS FROM SENDING HIS COLLECTION OF ROCKETS TO ISRAEL,
THOSE HAVE THE SAME GOAL AND THEY ARE ENEMIES OF ISRAEL,
IS OBAMA EXPECTING THEM TO BE TRUE, LIKE THE LIBYAN WHO WHERE SUPPOSE TO PROTECT THE AMBASSADOR FLEW AWAY IN FRONT OF THE ALQAEDA,
THE SCENARIO IS SHAPING UP SIMILAR AS FOR THE CREDIBILITY OF OBAMA
TOWARD THE MUSLIMS AGAIN, THIS TIME II’S ON THE ISRAEL’S BACK
INSTEAD OF AMERICANS AMBASSADOR AND SEALS,
WILL THEY BE LEFT ALONE IF THOSE COUNTRIES DECIDE TO ENCIRCLE THEM, FROM ALL AROUND,with IRAN joining them, WHILE ISRAEL ARE NO
MORE IN READYNESS TO FIGHT LIKE NOW AFTER THEIR WEAPONS ARE DOWN,