Make sure Obama supporters get what they voted for [Reader Post]

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Fiscal cliff:

“Fiscal cliff” is the popular shorthand term used to describe the conundrum that the U.S. government will face at the end of 2012, when the terms of the Budget Control Act of 2011 are scheduled to go into effect.

Among the laws set to change at midnight on December 31, 2012, are the end of last year’s temporary payroll tax cuts (resulting in a 2% tax increase for workers), the end of certain tax breaks for businesses, shifts in the alternative minimum tax that would take a larger bite, the end of the tax cuts from 2001-2003, and the beginning of taxes related to President Obama’s health care law. At the same time, the spending cuts agreed upon as part of the debt ceiling deal of 2011 will begin to go into effect. According to Barron’s, over 1,000 government programs – including the defense budget and Medicare are in line for “deep, automatic cuts.”

This was signed into law by Barack Obama on August 2, 2011.

Republicans should allow this to take effect. All of it.

democrats should understand what they elected. Obama supporters should reap what they have sown.

Among the bright spots is the AMT.

Unless Congress acts by the end of the year, more than 26 million households will for the first time face the AMT, which threatens to tack $3,700, on average, onto taxpayers’ bills for the current tax year. Because those people have never paid the AMT, they have no idea they are in its crosshairs — put there by a broader stalemate over tax policy that has kept Congress from limiting the AMT’s reach.

The Obama administration was a week late with its Sequestration Transparency Act, which was supposed to detail where budget cuts would fall:

Sequestration would impose cuts of 9.4 percent in nonexempt defense discretionary funding and 8.2 percent in nonexempt, nondefense discretionary funding. A 2 percent cut would hit Medicare providers, 7.6 percent would affect other nonexempt nondefense mandatory programs, and 10 percent would be applied to nonexempt defense mandatory programs, according to the report. Cuts in the range of 7.6 percent to 8.2 percent would affect everything from the Capitol Police to the Merit Systems Protection Board to the States Interagency Council on Homelessness.

Amusingly, Obama said the law he signed into effect “will not happen.”

When Gov. Mitt Romney pointed out the devastating $1 trillion in cuts set to hit our military via sequestration, Obama stated flatly, “[those] cuts will not happen.”

Obama is pledging that he will ignore a law he signed into effect.

Interesting.

democrats will now expect Republicans to bend over to Obama’s will.

Not. Gonna. Happen.

Harry Reid pledged not work with a President Romney

On Friday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) rejected a claim made by Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney that he would preside over a more bipartisan administration than President Barack Obama. Reid said that it is “laughable” that the Democratic majority in the Senate would work with Romney to enact his “severely conservative agenda.”

“Mitt Romney’s fantasy that Senate Democrats will work with him to pass his ‘severely conservative’ agenda is laughable,” Reid said in a statement. “In fact, Mitt Romney’s Tea Party agenda has already been rejected in the Senate.”

“Senate Democrats are committed to defending the middle class, and we will do everything in our power to defend them against Mitt Romney’s Tea Party agenda,” Reid concluded.

I trust democrats will respect the same from John Boehner

Barack Obama had a grand bargain in hand when he stiffed Boehner on the deal.

The book, “The Price of Politics,” on sale Sept. 11, 2012, shows how close the president and the House speaker were to defying Washington odds and establishing a spending framework that included both new revenues and major changes to long-sacred entitlement programs.

But at a critical juncture, with an agreement tantalizingly close, Obama pressed Boehner for additional taxes as part of a final deal — a miscalculation, in retrospect, given how far the House speaker felt he’d already gone.

The first time he was elected Obama said “I won.”

In 2010 Obama said

“We don’t mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back.”

Obama shut Republicans out of the stimulus and Obamacare process.

After his victory, Obama talked unity, but he did that last time as well and it means as little this time as it did then.

Now Obama will be looking for a legacy. I have heard that several times from democrat operatives. It is not now nor has it ever been about the country. It was always about him.

Republicans have the chance to grant Obama the legacy he signed into law- sequestration.

Obama signed it. He owns it. Let it happen. All of it.

And if he tries to grant waivers to the existing law, impeach him.

This is a good time for Obama supporters to understand that sacrifice is not simply something for others to make. This is a good time for Obama supporters to understand what they have done.

I for one will enjoy watching them cry about paying their fair share.

DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education. DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed. Except for liberals being foolish.

103 Responses to “Make sure Obama supporters get what they voted for [Reader Post]”

  1. 51

    retire05

    @Aqua:

    You think there is not an over abundance of idiots in Florida? The booted Alan West and elected Alan Grayson.

    Tell me those people are sane. Oh, and let’s not forget Princess Fauxchohantas in Massachusetts.

  2. 53

    Skook

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    Greg #28: Then Obama said, “I Won” and stepped into the Rubicon. It was his euphemism for the die is cast and he now controls everything. History will plague Obama like pit bulls hanging from his trouser legs. It was his method to attack the Republicans with such arrogance and condescension and now the ramifications of that method will work to destroy his presidency and the country. Yes, Obama crossed the Rubicon a long time ago; should we pretend he didn’t treat Republican legislators like minor annoyances to be cast aside. I think not Greg. Obama is about to reap the fields he has sown.

  3. 54

    Richard Wheeler

    RETIREO5 My comment re b. m. was directed to a T.P advocate here at F.A.
    I’m married to a beautiful,intelligent and compassionate Latina. She proudly voted for Obama as did her family and friends. She doesn’t understand how Mitt even got 29% of the vote.

    Skooks The miserable treatment afforded Obama here at F.A was much worse than any he dished out.

  4. 55

    johngalt

    @Richard Wheeler:

    The miserable treatment afforded Obama here at F.A was much worse than any he dished out.

    Rich, the treatment Obama has received here at FA is no worse than Bush received from the multitudes of liberal/progressives throughout the US, and oftentimes much better.

    Skooks was speaking about the treatment Obama dished out to the GOP members in congress. I don’t understand how you can look at someone who isolated the GOP and relegated them to another part of DC while he and the Democrats wrote up Obamacare and the Stimulus, and then turn around now and want that same GOP to work with Obama. Like they should be thankful they are even in his presence. Please. Obama has brought gridlock in DC upon himself with the cold shoulder he gave the GOP from the start.

    Never has a more divisive man inhabited the WH. And you all cheer him for it.

  5. 56

    Tom

    @Richard Wheeler:

    As I look out the window at snow pouring down, I gotta say, life in Southern California with an intelligent, beautiful wife sounds pretty good, Rich! One thing I wanted to mention is that you’ve been way too modest about your predictions. From what I’ve seen, you’ve been nailing it since the primaries.

  6. 57

    Richard Wheeler

    Thanks Tom If I could only do as well on my College Football picks.
    BTW Notre Dame 9-0 ranked 4TH plays at Boston College this Sat. Ck em out.
    I’m gonna hold Larry to his F.A. Party in Huntington Beach. Got a guest room in my house for you anytime you wanna escape the snow.

  7. 59

    noway

    @Richard Wheeler:

    the drive by don’t look at the lies, insults and distortion of romney as a politican, businessman and man was the most insulting bs i have ever seen in politics. the insults by the nitwits from crazywood toward ordianry americans is demeaning, insulting and has made us the joke of the world. so you try and say obama wasn’t treated right all the time ignoring the train wreck of lies and degrading of the american people by the democrats? i have to tell you i find that very insulting.

  8. 60

    Ditto

    Wall Street Wallows in After-Election Gloom: The Dow Jones Industrial Average sagged 312.95 points, or 2.36%, as investors pondered the fiscal cliff and other challenges.

    Wall Street’s hopes for lighter regulation and a better rapport with the White House were hurt by President Barack Obama’s win in the presidential race.

    The result left bankers, traders and private-equity executives facing the prospect of higher taxes, tougher rules on their activities and more aggressive regulators. Bank-stock investors were handed their biggest single-day loss in a year.

    Fitch Ratings warns of U.S. credit downgrade from fiscal cliff: Moody’s warned in September that failure to reach a deficit-reduction deal probably would lead it to downgrade the U.S. rating. And Fitch echoed that Wednesday.

    WASHINGTON — Fitch Ratings said that there would be “no fiscal honeymoon” for President Obama, warning early Wednesday that the U.S. probably would lose its AAA credit rating if the White House and Congress don’t address looming tax increases, spending cuts and the fast-approaching debt ceiling.

    “The economic policy challenge facing the president is to put in place a credible deficit-reduction plan necessary to underpin economic recovery and confidence in the full faith and credit of the U.S.,” said Fitch, one of the three major credit rating companies.

    The expiration of the George W. Bush-era tax cuts and the start of automatic spending cuts to reduce the deficit — a combination known as the fiscal cliff — will take place Jan. 1. Most economists believe it will trigger another recession.

    In addition, the government will hit its $16.4-trillion debt limit near the end of the year. Treasury officials said they can take steps to allow continued borrowing, but the nation would face a possible default early in 2013 if the limit isn’t increased.

  9. 61

    drjohn

    @Richard Wheeler:

    Skooks The miserable treatment afforded Obama here at F.A was much worse than any he dished out.

    ** Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
    ** Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
    ** Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
    ** Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”
    ** Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
    ** Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
    ** Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
    ** Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
    ** Obama: Vote out of “revenge”

    I have said it over and over and over; liberals have ZERO long term memory.

  10. 62

    Aqua

    @Richard Wheeler:

    Skooks The miserable treatment afforded Obama here at F.A was much worse than any he dished out.

    When you put your hand out and someone spits in it, what do you expect Rich. Obama called the leaders together that first week and said bring ideas. When Cantor offered up some ideas, Obama said, “elections have consequences Eric, I won.” That is when the war broke out and McConnell and the others declared their goal to make Obama a one term president. I would have done the same, and I’m betting you would have as well. The hand has been extended again, do we go through four more years like the last two?

  11. 63

    Aqua

    @retire05:

    You think there is not an over abundance of idiots in Florida? The booted Alan West and elected Alan Grayson.

    West has not conceded and he’s bringing suit. Plus, the military absentee vote is still being counted. West is down about 2,500 vote lead in the unofficial count. We’ll see how it goes. I’m pulling for him to win.

  12. 64

    kevino

    The GOP must not drive the country over the fiscal cliff. First, it’s a disaster for the country that’s far even worse than the Obama Presidency. The GOP is expected to put the country first — even if the country doesn’t understand the concept and even if the other party doesn’t cooperate. Secondly, the country voted for “free stuff” over “freedom”, but they didn’t vote for going off the fiscal cliff. And finally, if the GOP did any such thing, they along would be blamed for the outcome. Consider, for example, the closure of the Federal government under President Clinton. The GOP under Speaker Gingrich and the White House had serious differences, and the Federal government ran out of money. Most Americans incorrectly blamed the GOP — for all of it. The result was that Clinton was forced to compromise, and Clinton took credit for balancing the budget.

    The rule of modern politics is: if a disagreement happens, the GOP is 100% responsible for everything bad that happens, and the Democrats get 100% of the credit for everything good that happens.

    What the GOP House should do, IMHO is what the Speaker is proposing: compromise.
    1. The GOP needs to bypass the LSM and take out 30 minutes of prime time explaining that Obama’s plan won’t work: the deficit will explode and growth will be impaired. However, the election forces us to do this, so when it blows up, don’t be surprised. In fact, we’ll be amused to see who the Democrats blame for the mess, because they never take responsibility for the damage that they do in the world.
    2. Demand that the White House explain to the nation why the Democrats have refused to pass a busget. Every single GOP politician interviewed should include, “It’s been days since the Democrats allowed a budget to be passed,” in every interview.
    3. Publicly demand that the White House put together a long-range plan for the deficit. Play the tape of Treasury Secretary explaining that the White House phony numbers called for an OK deficit for five years, and then it “blows up”. Demand that the White House put together a plan that doesn’t blow up. We’ve done our home work. Now you do yours.
    4. Pass the proposed tax increases, including higher taxes on the “rich”, higher taxes on oil and gas producers, and whatever other tax increases the Democrats greedy little hearts desire. And watch the economy respond.
    5. Business leaders — from small to large — should look at the business environment and weigh the risks. I think that they will become risk-averse. I also think that the people that will be hurt the worst mostly voted for Obama. This is called “Social Justice”.

    This is a “Teaching Moment”. Let the teaching begin.

  13. 65

    drjohn

    @kevino:

    First, it’s a disaster for the country that’s far even worse than the Obama Presidency. The GOP is expected to put the country first — even if the country doesn’t understand the concept and even if the other party doesn’t cooperate. Secondly, the country voted for “free stuff” over “freedom”, but they didn’t vote for going off the fiscal cliff. And finally, if the GOP did any such thing, they along would be blamed for the outcome.

    Let me ask you a question, Kevin. This is a law passed by the democrat Senate and signed by Obama. Why would they put into law something that would be a disaster for the country?

    Surely they aren’t that cynical.

    Are you saying that democrats signed off a law that would be disastrous for the country?

  14. 66

    Richard Wheeler

    John says “Liberals have Zero long term memory”
    I’m 68 but can remember quite clearly the hatred and disrespect you personally have rained down on President Obama the last 3 years . I repeat– It’s people like you that cost Romney The Presidency. Live with it.

    Semper Fi

  15. 67

    drjohn

    @Richard Wheeler: I don’t agree, Rich. I think Romney wasn’t conservative enough. Agressive conservatism played well in 2010. This never does. Obama didn’t market himself as playing nice with Republicans. He campaigned on hate and revenge.

  16. 68

    kevino

    RE: “Are you saying that democrats signed off a law that would be disastrous for the country?”

    Short answer: YES.
    Long answer: I’m shocked — SHOCKED — that Democrats would support legislation that would be disastrous for the country. Casino floor manager comes by, “Sir, your copy of ObamaCare is on the pallet over there. Shall I wheel it to your car?” “Thank you.”

  17. 69

    Richard Wheeler

    John Obama attempted to put the fear of far right zealots running the country, into the psyche of the moderates, indies and Latinos who decided the election. You assisted him.
    Mitt had to go so far right to get the nom., he was not believable, when in the general election, he tried to project the moderate he truly is.If he had been allowed to secure the nom without propounding “self deportation” and the like, Obama would be history.

  18. 73

    Richard Wheeler

    alanstorm I remember the Bush years just fine. What am I lying about? You may well be the idiot Aqua Good luck to the ‘NOLES VS HOKIES” tonight. Looking forward to renewing great FSU VS ND rivalry.
    Don’t know source of the twitter.

  19. 74

    johngalt

    @Richard Wheeler:

    John Obama attempted to put the fear of far right zealots running the country, into the psyche of the moderates, indies and Latinos who decided the election. You assisted him.

    No, Rich, the media assisted Obama. You can deny it all you want, but I highly doubt that you are objective about it.

    As for demographics, do you realize that Obama only large gains were amongst Latinos, particularly the Latino women, and Asians (who make up a very small percentage of he voting block)? Blacks? Obama lost votes. Whites? Obama lost votes. Other, non-black, non-Latino, non-Asians? Obama lost votes. The most surprising, of course, is the loss amongst black voters, which dropped 8% points for black men alone.

    And overall? Obama lost 9.2% of the votes he garnered in 2008, while the GOP only lost .8%(that’s POINT EIGHT, Rich). I’d say that Romney’s campaign was, overall, more successful than McCain’s. And that is with his right turn in the primaries and left turn in the general.

    Your assertion, that Romney lost because he couldn’t convince voters he was the moderate he was, is faulty. I’d say it’s because he never convinced the conservatives, in the primary, that he was one of them. Which he isn’t. That is what Mata said at the point Romney became the presumptive nominee. As well as me. As well as any number of other conservatives here, Rich. Kinda hard to get excited about a guy you just don’t picture as a conservative. And if conservatives couldn’t get all that excited over him, independents certainly weren’t going to. Although, funnily enough, Romney gained big amongst independents compared to what McCain garnered in 2008. And that right there dispells your myth that Romney didn’t seem moderate enough.

  20. 75

    Richard Wheeler

    J.G As you know this election was 7 million votes closer than 2008 Closer demographic totals across the board would be a natural result. True– except with Latinos “SELF DEPORTATION’ hurt him in close loses in Fla Va and Col. If you don’t believe me ask Aqua’s wife or my wife. If he had IMPROVED with Latinos in a similar % to the other demographics a win in FL and in Va. Closer in Co. and Oh.
    Also, with few exceptions (MATA THE PRINCIPLED) Conservs. voted in large numbers AGAINST Obama.If not forced right of Gingrich in Fla. Mitt the Moderate would have beaten Obama, Conservs, might not have LOVED it but Obama would be HOME IN CHICAGO.
    There can be no doubt of this.It was that close.

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