The One Is Done
During the Denver debate Obama came off as if he knows the game is over. His body language has been described as disengaged, disinterested, sleepy, off his game, etc. Nonsense. This man simply no longer wants the job. He just had his Roberto Duran No Mas moment.
President Obama doesn’t want to work hard. He just wants to play. He is a delegator which isn’t necessarily a bad thing as long as those surrounding him pulling the levers are up to the task. Unfortunately, and at great expense of the American people his staff is filled with neophytes who aren’t up to that task.
His skill set as a politician is at best some place between a public speaker and a rabble rouser. He’s never been a leader at any of his career stops. His most recent included. He was never up to the job. Surely he went in with high hopes about his abilities. He seemed to truly believe he could make a difference. It appears that the sheer tidal wave of work involved with the job simply overwhelmed him. He looked like a defeated man.
It has been described in detail how far out of his depth he is as the leader of the free world and it was on display at the Denver debate. He’s been built up to believe in the nonsense that people have been shoveling him for his entire adolescent and adult life. The President fancies himself a man of ideas. His detachment from the concept that his ideas are not palatable is becoming blatantly evident. He is so engrained in his core beliefs that he feels anyone who challenges or debates him ‘doesn’t get it.’ He is jaded and incapable of logically analyzing alternative positions – those contrary to his big state beliefs. He gets indignant and dismissive toward those with differing views. He seems to be suffering and incapable of cogently formulating responses to anyone that doesn’t buy into the great Obama vacuum of hype.
Although he appears to be above average intellectually he has never challenged himself. Nor has he been forced to put the necessary time in to appreciate or understand the incrementally important factor of actually doing the work and how that can unilaterally be a driver for his intellectual side. His id is what has caused him to spiral into an utter failure as a leader and ultimately a failed President. He cannot control his pleasure principal impulses. These impulses coupled with his weak leadership core competencies have shaped him into an idea man rather than a man of action. He is not a deep enough thinker to be a difference maker in the idea man department.
Obama has been handled and coddled. My guess is that his handlers and mentors were blown away that this man ascended to the highest office in the land. I imagine at cocktail parties they are in complete disbelief that Barack Obama, a man of rather ordinary political acumen and of the thinnest resume was able to rise to the office of the President. They are clinking their glasses and saying it was a better run than their wildest dreams.
In the end Obama came off as nothing more than a man child whose self absorption has finally caught up with him. Romney came off as a strong businessman and more importantly a statesman.
@ilovebeeswarzone:
You are correct Bees. It wasn’t Conservatives who released Steele’s SSN number to the public. It wasn’t Conservatives who threw Oreo cookies at Steele. It wasn Conservatives who made racist cartoons about C. Rice. It was leftists like tom who did all of those things.
It looks like obama will not be getting a second term so far. Thank God.
@Tom:
You may have known them, but you’ve shown nothing but hatred for them and their kind. You claimed to have Conservative friends, but unsurprisingly never backed that up. Half the man rich is? Is that all you’ve got? No, I find it disgusting he supports those that would oppress others, which is what you support. Like I have said, you are a flaming bigot. You’d fit right in with the the SS. Convinced of your superiority without an ounce of evidence to support your fantasy.
@Hard Right, #51:
Hey, it’s Ayn Rand followers like your vice presidential candidate who are totally obsessed with her Cult of the Superior Man. When I saw the trailer for Atlas Shrugged recently, I thought at first that I was watching some sort of parody.
One of the far right’s central problems is that they’re totally convinced they’re morally superior to anyone who disagrees with them. Their second problem is how easily they can alter their understanding of the world around them to bolster that delusion.
@Greg:
Ann Rand is quite an interesting author. Apparently she has a character named John Galt who is the ultimate conservative martyr and hero. I don’t know, I just can’t imagine someone with those attributes going by that name.
I recall Rand’s books well from my initial encounter with them over 36 years ago. She was having a major resurgence on college campuses at that time. I fell under their spell for a short while. Nor have I entirely rejected everything about them. I just consider them to present the world by way of unrealistically extreme caricatures, and unrealistically extreme portrayals of opposing world views. There’s no room for any middle ground in her philosophy. In my own view, of course; there are people I respect who have very different opinions.
greg, when you display middle ground tendencies, call us. She has pegged you both quite accurately, not that either of you are capable of personal insight or facing reality.
Hell, even CNN is throwing cold water on the Obama numbers.
Tingly Legs Matthews claims now that Obama has at least a 120-125 IQ. How does he know? The quality of the tingles? No one knows, and no one will ever know, since there is no evidence of his marks or anything else that might demonstrate evidence of sub, average, or superior intelligence. Matthews has never shown much between the ears, so how does he come up with that?
@Doc Holliday: #2,
I think you’re right about his sense of entitlement – and he’s been groomed for his crowning for longer than we care to acknowledge for fear we might be right, by people who still control his strings, with Jarrett as the “on-the-job” puppet master. However, she’s not the power running this Administration.
. . . Agreed. The MSM excuses his attitude and his debate performance, attributing it to his being bored because he’s so brilliant he has no time to waste in such an exercise and would rather be somewhere else. Fact is, he doesn’t want to do it because it takes work and requires a capacity to understand complex matters which seem beyond his faculties. The result is a guy who gets pushed out onto the debate stage against his will. On the other hand, put him at a teleprompter with a speech written by others, and he thinks he’s earning his keep.
I get the feeling that there is some serious pressure on Obama/Jarrett and a few members of the Administration, to perform and to deliver. Has anyone seen Axelrod sweat so much and spew such nonsense? Pressure from above them. Pressure from coffers which expect results for their cash and years of patience, orchestrating a great grooming. The SECOND term would give them a ‘carte blanche’ to implement whatever twisted plans they might have.
Tom I appreciate your kind words FYI H.R is a mean old broad so it’s difficult for her to be “half the man”
She sure talks tough though, probably wishing she could get a change.
Pure bluster. Once claimed she learned some civility from Mata. Still waiting for that.
I laugh at her. A sad clown who hurts the Conservative cause of people like Mata and Word.
Keep up the good fight—–where is J.G?
Semper Fi
@Richard Wheeler:
You’re just angry because I frequently embarrass you. Like I have said before, rather than examine your beliefs you lash out at me.
An example would be how I pointed out your hero JFK stole an election AND illegaly wiretapped civilians. It’s historical fact, not my opinion. So admit I’m right, and deal with it.
H.R. I wouldn’t waste energy being angry at you. I laugh at your foolish extremism. You embarass yourself when you suggest I got V.D as a U.S. Marine fighting Communism in Viet Nam in 67-68.
I’ll say again. People like you ranting and raving hurt the Conservative cause.Indies and moderates read your diatribes and ask “is that what I want to associate with” Then they vote Democratic. BHO THANKS YOU.lol
Richard Wheeler
you said that’s what they do,
you think they are all stupid and think like you?
I DON’T THINK SO UNLESS THEY ARE stock on the DEMOCRATS waiting for miracle, while “TIME” pass them by
Brad Newgart
you made a very educative POST, THANK YOU.
Ever since the Dems walked out of their own statehouse and state in Wisconsin I knew the Dems there were not too bright.
But this takes the cake!
More than 1/2 of all Dems interviewed at Bascom Mall at the University of Wisconsin after the debate thought it was UNFAIR that Obama wasn’t permitted to use his POTUS!
A handful thought both debaters should have teleprompters…..to make it fair.
Richard Wheeler
you fought COMMUNIST IN THE WARZONE, YOU SAID,
why are you not fighting COMMUNIST in your own COUNTRY
since you saw theses last four years developing?
your stance alone can make a difference in your world and THE AMERICA
YOU FOUGHT FOR HER FREEDOM ELSE WHERE,
Instead of fight the CONSERVATIVES
Should Romney go on to win, the debate will be seen as the turning point. If you believe the skewed polls, it will the time when he went from being behind to taking the lead. If you believe the unskewed polls, it will be the time when he went from being in the lead to sealing the deal. Calling the election this early is still a mistake. There is still a month and three debates to go. Romney needs to build on what he built Wednesday. Obama will be a lot more aggressive in the next two debates however he lost some his major talking points. Another question is whether or not he can communicate himself without his teleprompter. He has less than a week to learn how to talk without it.
The other factor is the MSM. They have a lot to lose. Their credibility is on the line because of their bias and poll numbers. If Romney wins or makes it close, they will have their credibility destroyed. They have already been caught trying to negate the effects after the debate. Their pundits, especially those at the NYT, have tried to downplay the debate by claiming it wasn’t a game changer etc. The polls that have come out since tell a different story. Reuters, which is probably the most skewed poll, has Obama’s lead shrinking to 2 points. Given they are skewed by double digits in favor of the dems, that most likely translates to a Romney lead of at least a couple of points. Other polling now has Romney leading in Florida and Virginia and tied in Ohio. Take out the skew and Romney is probably leading in all three states. No matter what the outcome, it won’t be a boring race to the finish.
another vet
hi,
yes, and the momentum will rise, I can see on the arising, the people buzzing with hope
to find a job which will be then available as a good paying job by returning COMPANIES, they are waiting for MITT ROMNEY to take the power away from OBAMA, because they have confidence that he will not screw them into a fix like OBAMA WANT FOR THEM,
@ilovebeeswarzone: Something needs to change. In my neck of the woods there are individuals who have bachelor’s and in some cases master’s degrees, who were promised hope and change and are now waiting on tables. It is probably even more widespread than that.
I wish I could agree fully with this post, however, this guy has the stupid’ vote sowed up. I’m sure it will be close, and maybe he ‘appears’ to not be in the race, and I would love to see him out, but the truth is, there are too many people that are on the bandwagon just because he’s the first black POTUS, because they still buy the ‘hope and change’ bit, and because he is all about the social programs. Its not over till he is in the history books. I do think Romney handed it to him tho, and I’m looking forward to 3 more just like it!
simon
hi,
you know, the OBAMA MACHINE try every thing to throw GOD out of schools and public places ,
throw the FLAG out of schools and public places, even take the CROSS out of cemetery,
some for military who died, and where the survivors come to pray on their return from the WAR,
they have given billions of dollars to foreigners who hate AMERICA AND KILL THEM,
THIS WHEN THE AMERICANS ARE HURTING AND THERE IS NO JOBS BECAUSE THEY KILLED THE JOBS .
BUT WE HAVE THE CHANCE , BECAUSE WE PRAY, AND WE ARE NOT GIVING UP.
TILL YOUR VOTE AND ALL THE OTHER VOTES ARE IN,
MAY GOD HELP AMERICA, THE BEAUTIFUL WHERE THE BENEVOLENT GIANTS ARE FIGHTING FOR THIS NATION, they expect us all to take good care of the UNITED STATES
WHILE THEY DIE FOR IT TO STAY FREE UNDER GOD,
TO BE FREED FROM IMPOSTOR WHO SEEK TO DESTROY IT,
The economy and jobs are generally understood to be an election’s pivot points, however, this election may pivot on the overwhelming evidence surfacing on this Administration’s incompetence and danger that poses for the country.
Example of a quickly rising tide around Obama:
From the airhead representing the Nation at the U.N. in a letter to Congress dated Oct.4, 2012, . . .
The Administration is stupidly blaming the intelligence community. Bad move.
Now the intelligence community, will push back, and ‘voila’ a storm which the MSM will not be able to hide. The Administration has had a very ‘progressive,’ even willfully blind approach to the Middle East, ignoring or over-riding the intelligence community in the field. Result: Disaster.
Ergo: New Pivot Point.
@another vet, #67:
That’s what happens when a nation is offshoring even its technical jobs. That work, too, can often be done much more cheaply in India or China. Unskilled factory jobs went first; semi-skilled jobs went next; highly skilled jobs have followed. Someone like Romney would tell you this is a matter of market forces at work. Competently run businesses buy their necessary services at the least possible cost.
Highly skilled workers with Masters or PhD level training might once have been optimistic about alternative positions in the public sector or at universities. Unfortunately, there’s increasing pressure to downsize government at all levels, and a strongly encouraged perception that government workers and academics are mostly overpaid, superfluous parasites, who don’t actually do anything useful.
There’s still waiting tables, but if you’re part of a service union, that suggests you’re a parasite as well.
It’s all part of that Ayn Randian first-hander/second-hander paradigm. If you don’t have a lot of money in your hands or aren’t directly useful to those who do, you’re automatically part of the second category.
James Raider
hi,
I remember reading of the ARABS owning shares in those big MEDIAS,
and many of it enough to influence who is employed, I read,
so that might be A factor of why they big medias like CNN AND OTHER,
are behaving the way you describe in foreign event, to protect their jobs,
don’t say don’t know don’t tell,
and another factor which come in mind, is the great amount of money
was given to 2008 OBAMA ELECTION, AND PROBABLY THIS ELECTION TOO,
IT could tell us why the MEDIAS ARE OVER PROTECTING OBAMA, TO WHAT SEEM TO BE NOT NORMAL
BYE
@Greg:
Are you saying that the most creative nation in the history of the modern world is no longer able to compete with cheap foreign labor? Are you saying that we can’t design, create and produce a product that would be competitive with cheap labor of third world nations? Because if that is what you are saying, we just threw away billions of $$ on bailing out GM that has no possible hope of ever being competitive and that the innovation that make us the leader in world production is dead.
Perhaps that is what we get for thinking that we need more Ph.D. and fewer plumbers.
@Greg: That work, too, can often be done much more cheaply in India or China.
@another vet
@retire05
hi,
I think the borders open have done a lot of wrong to the USA,
those people have crowded the market and, made the true AMERICAN
EXPANDEBLE IN JOBS, loosing the place they would have hold normaly without that flow of human ready to fight to take the place of the CITIZENS, BY CHEAPENING THEIR WORK FEES,
WHICH THE BUSINESS JUMPED IN TO SAVE MONEY, SAME IN MANUFACTURING JOBS
WHICH EXPAND OUT IN THE FOREIGN COUNTRIES when CLINTON SIGN THE GLOBAL EXCHANGE OPENNING TO MARKET WITHOUT ANY RESTRICTION ON THEM WHICH HURT JOBS DRASTICLY,
WHEN AMERICAN COMPANIES LEFT USA to open all over the world for saving money
on cheap labor abroad,
it was like prostitution of the market place, the medias got in to publicize the foreign product, they profit also tremendously, and all hell broke loose, the AMERICA LOST HER HOME MADE PRODUCT FOR UNEVEN VALUE EVEN IF THEY WHERE MUCH SUPERIOR TO WHO EVER FOREIGN PRODUCTS,
AND THE OVER FLOW OF FOREIGN PRODUCTS INVADED FREELY WITHOUT A WORD ABOUT THE DESTRUCTIVE EFFECT ON A SO TOLERANT NATION LAISSEY FAIRE,
BYE
NOW WHAT IS THE SOLUTION? IT MUST BE RADICAL FOR THE FOREIGNERS, COMPANIES AND ALL PRODUCTS, AND CLOSE THE BORDERS RADICALLY TO STOP THE HUMAN MARKET AIMING TO CROSS THIS BORDER FROM ALL THE WORLD OVER CROWDED AND HATERS OF THE FREEDOM OF AMERICA, THEY COME AS SLEEPERS UNTIL THE TIME THEY ARE NUMEROUS ENOUGH TO INFLUENCE THE GOVERNMENT TO GIVE THEM FROM THE CITIZENS, AND ELEVATE THEM IN THE WHITE HOUSE,
SO EASYLY DONE AS WE SEE NOW DONE, AND JUST BEGINNING
@retire05, #74:
I’m suggesting that middle class and working class Americans should not be required to compete with a Third World workforce that will provide the same services for less money than a person here can even live on–no matter HOW much money that arrangement has put into the pockets of people like Mitt Romney.
@Greg:
Perhaps you should read the contract that the UAW has with GM. It makes for a very interesting read. The paid holidays that those UAW workers get amount to almost three months off. And no, it doesn’t include weekends. And their salaries are far from low. Do you think any company can function in the black when it has to give its workers 12 months salary for 9 months work?
You complain that products are made in foreign lands just as you, and all left wing lunatics complain about oil companies, yet you support those very products. So let’s see just what a hypocrite you are, Greg; that computer key board you are typing on is made from a petroleum by-product. That computer you use to come here and spout your liberal insanity was made in a foreign land, and even if you have bought a Dell or a Gateway computer, all the components are made overseas by foreign labor. The car you drive, providing you are old enough to have a driver’s license, is mostly made overseas, especially in Mexico, if you drive a GM product, Toyota being the most U.S. made vehicle sold in the United States. The TV you watch was made in a foreign land along with the radio you listen to. The shirt on your back and the shoes on your feet were made by foreign CHEAP labor. Or do you think that workers in Sri Lanka are well paid? Even your toothpaste was probably made in Mexico.
If you were not the hypocrite you are, you would abide by your own standards, and not purchase any product that was not made in the U.S. of totally U.S. made components. Yet, all your left wing talking heads that bitch about foreign goods, type their articles on foreign made computers.
Soooooooooo, until you stand by your convictions, and refuse to purchase foreign made products, don’t preach to anyone about them. And until you realize that unions, made moot by federal work laws, are the very reason that we no longer manufacturer a damn thing, you will remain a clueless hypocrite.
GREG
I see you mentioning MITT ROMNEY SUCCESS WITH YOUR USUAL SNARK,
HE made his money like any other successful person with the gift to make anything turn to gold,
this is good and only envious people like you would pin a spit on it,
you know that “ENVY ” IS A DAMNATION IN THE 10 COMMANDS,
so if you hear the DEMOCRATS SPIT ON MITT ROMNEY for having the gift of success ,
just tell them of their “VICE” IS UNDER THE COMMANDS OF ” THY SHOULD NOT”
WHAT’s the matter with those on your side, did they sold their soul for money?
don’t they have a moral behavior?
the architecture of the US SUPREME COURT REFLECT
THIS BIBLICAL FOUNDATION, at the center of the sculpture
over the east portico, of the SUPREME COURT BUILDING,
THERE is the image of MOSES HOLDING THE TWO TABLETS
OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS: these are also engraved
over the chair of the CHIEF JUSTICE, and on the bronze doors
of the SUPREME COURT
@ilovebeeswarzone: #72,
No-one really knows the full extent of the money raised by Obama in 2008, but numbers we heard ranged from $750 million all the way to $1 billion. By any measure, it represented the largest amount raised for any campaign in history. A significant amount of it came from ‘off-shore’ and no-one in the MSM asked who was sending the suitcases full of money. No one audits these funds. All kinds of excuses were made for lack of audits. That leaves ample room for an enormous amount of that cash to slide sideways (fraud). Keep in mind that there’s a difference between what is claimed ‘raised’ and what is claimed ‘spent’. McCain didn’t raise as much but the same applies to his funds. You might recall stories about Obama’s clowns by-passing the Address Verification System, etc. – just games to evade detection on sources of funds. The game continues today in this election.
The 2008 campaign saw a total spent of $5.3 billion, which was 27% higher spending than the previous election. 2008 put a permanent head-shot into the principally taxpayer-funded Presidential financing program. 2008 opened a broad highway for corruption to roll into the Presidential election process. Obama and his backers were a major cause of this situation.
It’s a broken and corrupted system. Until it is fixed, it will be difficult to trust anyone in Washington, and not assume they have been bought or someone has rigged a part of the game.
You’re right, none of this is normal.
@James Raider:
Why do you think Obama refused the matching funds campaign money? If he turned it down, which he said he would not, he was not going to be audited like John McCain was. And the Obama Chicago thugs knew that. So even though Obama said he would take matching funds if John McCain did, it was just one of the first campaign promises he went back on.
Now, let’s say I was some Saudi prince who wanted to dump $50K into Obama’s campaign, but by U.S. law that would be illegal. I just have my lackies but 1,000 $50 prepaid credit cards, in the names of Mickey Mouse, or DooDad Pro, and donate that money to the Obama campaign. It’s under the amount guideline where the Obama campaign has to report the name of the donor, so all that money is not trackable. Remember the Palestinian phone banks that claimed to be contacting only U.S. donors for Obama? Ever heard of that before? A foreign phone bank for a presidential candidate? The Obama campaign re-wrote the book on campaign corruption.
where are the justice department, where is the FBI, THE PENTAGON, THE CIA,
THE HIGHEST COURT OF THIS LAND?
WHO CAN DIG IN THERE,
THEY WOULD HAVE A FILE SO BIG AS THE OBAMA CARE FILE.
@retire05: #80,
There is no longer any question that this statement is true given the size of amounts raised, and many might be surprised and disgusted by the real sources of the cash, but Congress will never go digging. It can’t, because not a single individual on either side of the isle has the will. Even if one did, he/she would get squashed like a bug by his own.
If we look at how it backed off the slaughter and insanity of Fast and Furious which occurred under Holder for example. Result: We now hear crickets from Congress, and of course, nothing from the MSM.
These past 4 years of fraud/stupidity/theft/crime provide a long and dismal list and an ugly one. Result: Crickets
@James Raider: James, you are very correct. Congress is kept quiet. They are ‘not allowed’ to expose Dimocrat (or Republican) corruption. They all know Empty Chair is not eligible to be president, but they won’t even discuss it. The Fast and Furious corruption is being swept under the rug. The murder of the ambassador will be swept under the rug. congress passes no budget. This election certainly matters, but I’m not sure anyone other than Empty Chair is going to be ‘allowed’ to win it. Too many dead dimocrats will be voting.
Redteam
hi,
cheer up, MITT ROMNEY AND PAUL RYAN are just beginning,
already MITT has proven to be a strong opponent and the people have reacted
favorably for him,
don’t give up now is no time to be negative, we have to trust ” THE PEOPLE”
I believe in the AMERICANS to make it happen and regardless of what the OBAMA GROUP CAN DO,
IT is shaping up ,for MITT ROMNEY AND PAUL, they will have to clime their mountain in the next few days,
and they will, because they are men of courage, and they know why it is so important for them to win
for AMERICA.
BYE
@Richard Wheeler:
rich, yes or no, did JFK steal the election with vote rigging/fraud and wiretap Americans illegally? Simple question.
Your answer will determine your credibility.
@Redteam: #83,
When Boehner got stonewalled by Obama on the budget because Obama got sent back into the negotiation and told by his handlers to put tax increases back on the table and told not to back-off, Beohner should have taken the time to mount a major PR coup against a disingenuous and lying Administration. Beohner should have come out swinging hard, with a well prepared message, forthrightly delivered. A message that Romney could be using, and should be using today in his campaign.
This was a major missed opportunity. What the Nation received instead appeared to be whining.
Is there a budget floating by in the stream today as voters head for the poles? Not much. Boehner screwed up big-time. He did not take it to the people properly or effectively.
Instead, Obama has been provided ammunition such as, . . . Obama chides Congress for departing with much left
The republican House could have easily cut a budget deal, simply by agreeing to extend the Bush tax cuts for 95% of the population, while letting tax rates for the top 5% revert to the Clinton era rates.
Nothing makes it clearer who their “handlers” are than that one simple fact.
H.R. You seem to have a need to discredit the election of one of America’s most popular Presidents. You can play that game by yourself.
Semper Fi
@Richard Wheeler: Gee, RW, people are entitled to their opinions!
Like I was a student when Zapruder (sp?) went around to college campuses and explained what he saw through his viewfinder and what he saw on his uncut film VS what was later published in an incorrect order after the government took his film.
Some people believe him, to this day.
What did he SAY he saw and that his uncut film showed?
JFK being shot from in front (the ”grassy knoll”) and reflexively grabbing at his throat.
The back of his head exploding outward.
You’ve seen YEARS worth of CSI.
Enough to know that NO bullet could go through a wrist, a rib, a neck and a skull and end up looking PRISTINE somehow on the gurney after it blew out the back of Kennedy’s skull and LEFT the car.
It would have been mangled and slowed at each bone, each inch of flesh even.
It would have been elsewhere, not on a gurney.
But the vast majority do buy that pristine bullet one magic bullet story.
It is in all the history books.
Yet those of us who met some of the men and women there that day still opine otherwise.
It is our right.
Nan G. I agree with you re. the Kennedy assassination and the validity of the Zagruder film. A single bullet from the rear could not have travelled that projectory, created that damage and ended up pristine on the gurney.
@Greg: It’s crazy to raise taxes on anyone when our economy is in the toilet. Even 0-blama, and Slick said the same thing. So why now? Oh yea, 0-blama needs the votes from his useful idiots like you.
Richard Wheeler
you said most popular, by whom,
he was because he was unknown and the MEDIA WHERE WELL PAID TO SELL THE PRODUCT THAT GIVE YOU A TINGLE IN YOUR LEG.
BUT LOOK AT HIM NOW, WHEN FACE WITH AN OPPONENT WHO KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT,
OBAMA HAS SHRUNK, AND THE PEOPLE SAW AN EMPTY SUIT
@Richard Wheeler: I used to be a conspiracy theorist on the JFK assassination as well. Here is an alternative view. If you read it with an open mind and look at the evidence presented here and in the links provided, it goes a long way towards dispelling the conspiracy theory. Be forewarned, the pictures of Kennedy are quite graphic. Again, the key is an open mind. I had a hard time acknowledging the evidence because I was fixated on the conspiracy theories that we have been saturated with all of these years. This author focuses on the physical evidence such as the so called pristine bullet, the wounds, and the trajectory etc. One thing he doesn’t get into is- who were these conspirators? Who recruited them, who trained them, who financed them, and why would they have chosen a loose canon like Oswald to be part of what was essentially treason and the overthrow of a President? For an operation like that you would want your best because if the mission failed, you would be looking at the death penalty and a place in U.S. history that would rival Benedict Arnold.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/sbt.htm
Bees I was referring to JFK not BHO. My suggestion to you is never be a hater.No one is worth it and it brings no lasting self satisfaction. Wouldn’t you agree?
A.V. Thanks for the info. I’ll ck. it out. Your thoughts on why Oswald “acting alone” shot JFK? Was Ruby acting alone? Many unanswered questions.
We do know the course of history was dramatically changed on that Nov. day.
Richard Wheeler
yes but you can take your own advice when you slip a piece of hateful words into this CONSERVATIVE BLOG,
@Common Sense:
Because there’s a serious deficit and debt issue to deal with; because the top 5% can afford it; because the top 5% made out like bandits during the Bush era, and have continued to do so through the worst recession in decades. Because the accelerating upward redistribution of income and wealth and it’s continuing concentration at the top is a very unhealthy trend for the nation.
If you want to strengthen the American economy, you want to keep more money in the hands of the broadest segment of American consumers. It doesn’t help for the richest to have an ever-increasing portion of the total.
@Richard Wheeler: I believe Oswald acted alone as did Ruby. The link addresses the physical evidence. In addition to that, just about every assertion about what Oswald could or couldn’t have done has been proven wrong. People have been able to duplicate the “impossible” feat he did with the rifle he used. He was not a lousy marksman. His Marine Corps qualification targets show that he was more than an adequate marksman. If he was innocent, why did he gun down the patrolman? Think about it from your Marine background, would you pick someone like Oswald to be part of an assassination team whose target was POTUS?
As for Ruby, he was a huge JFK devotee and a loose canon himself. He was a braggart with a few months to live. I believe he killed Oswald to satisfy his ego and get his name in the history books. If someone was going to have Oswald silenced, they would have done it a lot sooner as in before he got caught. Think about how much talking he could have done between the time he was caught and the time he was killed. A huge risk.
Finally, think about the conspiracy theories from a military perspective. If there were multiple gunmen what happened in Dealey Plaza wasn’t just an assassination, it was an ambush complete with multiple gunmen and other support type personnel such as lookouts and those acting as aiming stakes. Whose idea was this? It had to originate with someone. People would have had to start communicating with each other bringing in more co-conspirators. There would to have been a plan, financing, recruiting, rehearsals, some sort of an operations cell to coordinate everything, and people involved in the cover-up. In other words, this would have been a huge conspiracy not some little group like Boothe’s. I used to think LBJ may have been the ring leader but when you look at what the government’s reaction was to the assassination, it makes no sense. They flew him out of there ASAP because they were worried that the Soviets may have been trying to decapitate our leadership in preparation for an attack.
GREG
you mean if you want to strengthen the OBAMA GOVERNMENT,
YOU HAVE TO TAX THE RICH,
what make you so sure it would go into the hands of small businesses ,
it seems to go in the hands of the SOLYNDRA’S TYPE COMPANIES WHICH FAILED,
A.V. Would never suggest Oswald was innocent but if the only shooter he was damn lucky.He was certainly part of a larger plot.
Agree, that the dying Jack Ruby, a man who greatly admired JFK, acted on his own.
Greg, this is such an unbelievably stupid statement that you may have to consider yourself the ying to the hyperbolic conservative’s yang… and yes, this side of the aisle has them too.
The 2008 crash was real estate, financials and stock market… which are not only income and investments for the top 5%, but for tens of millions of American workers and stockholders via pension plans as well. You do realize that even as far back as 1996, 50 million American workers were vested in 401Ks, up from 20 million in 1980. To give you a handle on what percentage that is, the American civilian labor force in 1996 ranged between 66.4 and 67 million in 1996. That was sixteen years ago… you think that number shrank? Hardly….
Monetary crashes and bubbles do not differentiate between wealthy and modest investors. During the Bush and Clinton economies, BOTH workers and top 5% made out like bandits because BOTH enjoyed the bubbles. When the stocks, real estate are down, or bubbles burst, *everyone* loses … those who invested more lose bigger, which is usually the top 5%. Gambling, which is all the stock market is, happens to be like that.
So why you think any of them were immune to the market and real estate bubble bursts stretches beyond an common sense.
Instead you make such a really stupid observation, suggesting that only the invested American worker and shareholders lost money, but not the wealthier investors. Now how does that work in your imaginary world, Greg?
We might also add that some of what American 401K owners lost was not their money, but the matching funds from the employer… usually at least 50% up to $17K annually.
Now, the next stupid observation I’d expect from you is that even tho the top 5% lost, they can still afford to lose more than the American worker…. in your socialist opinion.
Point one, who the hell are you to say what anyone else can “afford”? Do you know their monthly overhead costs? After all, it’s just a matter of zeros. An average family may be living on $4000 monthly, and paying out $3995 of that in all living expenses, including food. How about one of those top 5%ers, who are making $20,000 a month, but are paying out $19,995 for all their expenses? After all, people aren’t stuffing money in mattresses anymore since it’s really hard to introduce it into the investment world these days… so it goes into various investments or savings for retirement, CDs, etc.
Secondly, even if someone made $20,000 monthly, and only had an overhead of $10,000… leaving $10K clear to do with what they want… good for them for being smart and successful. And it’s none of your G-D business to decide how much the government should steal at the point of a gun.
And why do you want to steal from others, Greg? Because your party who – since FDR and the Great Depressions, has had control of the Senate for 28 out of 39 sessions, and the House’s purse strings for 30 out of 39 sessions – put in two entitlements and spent out the gazootie on feel good, unConstitutional welfare programs for eight decades. Then they had to slam duck a third entitlement, Medicaid, thru in the smoke filled dark rooms of the WH to pile on.
The one’s who need to be reined in are not those that make financial successes of themselves, but those who are stealing the cash from all workers, and deciding how to redistribute money they don’t earn.
Sorry… but my patience level for this crap is at an all time low. I’m tired of the “spread the wealth” crowd, and I’m equally sick of the ODS crowd as well. These past two and three election cycles have been filled with so much background noise – like the BS emotional utopian arguments by the left, then piled on by those who think the next door neighbor’s flatulence is all Obama’s fault – that I can hardly be surprised that Bozo and Emmett the Clown ended up as the only two choices for POTUS.
The sorry fact is that the majority of American voters – hampered by a kindergarten level of economic education – are boobs, and fools, driven by emotions.