Did President Bush Fail to Prevent 9/11?

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A new book claims to have new meat on an old meme. What, is President Obama running against Bush again in November?

Vanity Fair contributing editor and former NYTimes reporter Kurt Eichenwald is out promoting a new Bush-Derangement Syndrome book, 500 Days: Secrets and Lies in the Terror Wars

In a NYTimes op-ed tastefully published on the eve of the 11th anniversary of 9/11:

On Aug. 6, 2001, President George W. Bush received a classified review of the threats posed by Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network, Al Qaeda. That morning’s “presidential daily brief” — the top-secret document prepared by America’s intelligence agencies — featured the now-infamous heading: “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.” A few weeks later, on 9/11, Al Qaeda accomplished that goal.

Isn’t this sooooo Richard Clarke 2004? Like a new book coming out in support of Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame’s version of reality.

On April 10, 2004, the Bush White House declassified that daily brief — and only that daily brief — in response to pressure from the 9/11 Commission, which was investigating the events leading to the attack. Administration officials dismissed the document’s significance, saying that, despite the jaw-dropping headline, it was only an assessment of Al Qaeda’s history, not a warning of the impending attack. While some critics considered that claim absurd, a close reading of the brief showed that the argument had some validity.

What argument? There’s nothing “arguable”. It’s just plain obvious: The “alarming” PDB did not carry any actionable intelligence that could have led to plot-prevention.

Unless….apparently unless…

That is, unless it was read in conjunction with the daily briefs preceding Aug. 6, the ones the Bush administration would not release. While those documents are still not public, I have read excerpts from many of them, along with other recently declassified records, and come to an inescapable conclusion: the administration’s reaction to what Mr. Bush was told in the weeks before that infamous briefing reflected significantly more negligence than has been disclosed. In other words, the Aug. 6 document, for all of the controversy it provoked, is not nearly as shocking as the briefs that came before it.

I have a hard time believing that Eichenwald has been made privy to anything that the 9/11 Commission and other investigations hadn’t already reviewed before; and which raised no smoking gun alarm that the Bush Administration had failed to prevent the events of 9/11 from happening.

All of this comes across as partisan political wishful thinking by Tuesday morning quarterbacks sitting in their comfy armchairs with their rose-colored 20/20 hindsight glasses on.

NBC senior investigative producer Robert Windrem also picks up on Eichenwald’s NYTimes piece, and brings up some supposed nuggets in Tenet’s book. I have the book and will have to go back through it; but I don’t recall reading anything that made me come away with Windrem’s reaction of events.

I just heard about Eichenwald’s op-ed and his new book and have had no time to thoroughly go through and revisit these past arguments. So apologies for a sloppy post; but I did want to put it out there for FA readers to discuss.

Vanity Fair has an excerpt from the book, here.

If anyone finds anything else, post it in the comments.

I’m off to work.

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Here’s a link to the transcript of the August 6, 2001, presidential daily briefing, should anyone want to refresh their memory. The last 2 paragraphs on the second page of the document have been the most controversial.

No, but Clinton could have done more….when we got hit under his watch…

I read Eichenwald’s op-ed, and it seems obvious that he thinks that terrorism against the U.S. and U.S. interests, started on 9-11-2001. There was no mention of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing that caused Al Qaida to rethink how to take those towers down, no mention of Kenya or Tansania, no mention of the U.S.S. Cole. No mention of the program, Able Danger, that was created in 1999 and ran through 2000 during the Clinton administration, and it was disbanded because it was critical of the Clinton Administration that brought about the Gorelik wall and prevented one federal agency from discussing findings on terrorist groups with other federal agencies. No mention of Clinton’s absolute refusal to take out ObL when he was presented the opportunity on a silver platter.

Also, Eichenwalt claims to be in possession of still classified PDBs. If that is the case, then Eichenwald is in possession of stolen documents, and he needs to be throughly invested by Congress. It is a federal crime to receive stolen national security documents. Eichenwald should be invested, starting today.

My guess is that the author of this little bit of revisionist history is afraid the man he supports, Obama, is facing a losing election. So what better way to pump up someone who has been a total failure on both foreign policy AND national security? Blame Bush. It was a winner for Obama in 2008, and I would suspect Eichenwald thinks that can be relived. I think the actions of the Egyptians at the American Embassy shows that the Arab Spring, which was so touted by Obama, is rapidly turning into the Arab Nightmare. The statement of the U.S. Ambassador to Egypt was absolutely disgusting. But remember, Obama will side with the Muslims should the political winds change.

It won’t work.

Breaking news!!!

Islamists have torched the American counsulate in Lybia. The BBC is reporting that it “burnt down.”

Gee, that Arab Spring is working out well when we get attacked after all the hard work Obama has done making us so well respected again.

Maybe this explains why Obama skips out on so many security briefings.
That way he can ”honestly” later claim he didn’t know – for instance – Hezb’allah tries to smuggle terrorists into the USA through Mexico, or Egyptians are shouting ”Death To America!” or Iranians are, too, or Pakistanis are plotting against US troops/trucks as they try to head into Afghanistan, or, or, or….
Well. why else would Obama skip all those briefings?
Our military must just despise this creep!

One more thing.
The only way to have stopped these attacks on 9-11-01 was to shoot down airplanes full of perfectly innocent passengers.
There were no rules against box cutters in carry-on back then.
There were no ”no-fly lists.”
Can you imagine the hatred that would have rained down on GWBush had he taken a passenger jet down?

On July 4th, 2002 a terrorist attack was thwarted when ARMED El Al desk personnel took out a gun wielding jihadi at LAX.
He did manage to murder an El Al worker, first.
From that time til now every thwarted jihadist attack has been stopped, not by government, but by alert fellow passengers and crew.

@Nan G:

Nan, the simple answer to your question is that Obama is simply a facade. He is the puppet to Valerie Jarrett’s puppet master. He never did have what it takes to be president, he was simply a blank slate that voters could project their own vision of him on. Even David Axelrod will not take on Jarrett. That is why I think Panetta and Hillary usurpted Obama to take out ObL, but did so in a way to make Obama look good.

@retire05: Your second paragraph brings Sandy Berger to mind — the Hildabeast’s old buddie before she got on with the weiners — hummm hummm hummm

I don’t see anything in the Aug 6 PDB that is very specific about anything. Certainly nothing that would say that inhabitants of the twin towers and pentagon should be evacuated prior to 9/11. The real problem existing at the time was the Gorelik Wall that the Clinton people had put in place that hindered cooperation between the law enforcement agencies. I don’t think the Clinton or Bush Administrations either one had the specific knowledge that would have prevented 9/11

Of course Bush messed this up. God forbid they rounded up all the bullshit “students” on bogus visas and investigated them.

But we don’t want to be accused of racial profiling now do we?

@Ivan:

According to the 9-11 Commission, only four of the 9-11 hijackers had overstayed their visas. Those visas were tourist visas granted during the Clinton Administration. So I guess we can say that the Clinton Administration failed to do its job since almost all the pilots for the four planes had obtained their visas in 2000, before Bush took office.

You know what this sort of thing really is? It’s a calculated book promotion strategy. People having a noteworthy name target a certain political demographic, write a controversial book designed to appeal to it, and then exploit the hell out of the media and the election year political environment to get as much free publicity as possible. Is there anything in Eichenwald’s book that hasn’t been gone over before? I’m not going to buy a copy to find out.

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Is there anything in Eichenwald’s book that hasn’t been gone over before? I’m not going to buy a copy to find out.

I wouldn’t read it if it were free.

Professor Angelo Codevilla ( you remember “America’s Ruling Class – The Perils of Revolution“) knows about foreign intelligence .

Since 1995 Codevilla has been a Professor of International Relations at Boston University. Codevilla served as a U.S. Naval Officer from 1969-1971 and a Foreign Service Officer from 1976-1978. He was a Senior Staff Member for the Senate Intelligence Committee from 1978-1985, and served on the Reagan Administration State Department and Intelligence Transition Teams in 1980.

In “Osama Bin Elvis” he wrote this analysis that takes apart the importance of bin Laden as an international terrorist.

The real Osama bin Laden, like the real al Qaeda over which he presided, was never as important as reports from Arab (especially Saudi) intelligence services led the CIA to believe. Osama’s (late) role in Afghanistan’s anti-Soviet resistance was to bring in a little money. Arab fighters in general, and particularly the few Osama brought, fought rarely and badly. In war, one Afghan is worth many Arabs. In 1990 Osama told Saudi regent Abdullah that his mujahideen could stop Saddam’s invasion of the kingdom. When Abdullah waved him away in favor of a half-million U.S. troops, Osama turned dissident, enough to have to move to Sudan, where he stayed until 1996, hatching sterile anti-Saudi plots until forced to move his forlorn band to Afghanistan.

There is a good reason why neither Osama nor al Qaeda appeared on U.S. intelligence screens until 1998. They had done nothing noteworthy. Since the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Africa, however, and especially after director of Central Intelligence George Tenet imputed responsibility for 9/11 to Osama “game, set, and match,” the CIA described him as terrorism’s prime mover. It refused to countenance the possibility that Osama’s associates might have been using him and his organization as a flag of convenience. As U.S. forces were taking over Afghanistan in 2001, the CIA was telling Time and Newsweek that it expected to find the high-tech headquarters from which Osama controlled terrorist activities in 50 countries. None existed. In November 2008, without factual basis and contrary to reason, the CIA continued to describe him and his organization as “the most clear and present danger to the United States.” It did not try to explain how this could be while, it said, Osama is “largely isolated from the day to day operations of the organization he nominally heads.” What organization?

Questioning Osama’s relevance to today’s terrorism leads naturally to asking how relevant he ever was, and who might be more relevant. That in turn quickly shows how flimsy are the factual foundations on which rest the U.S. government’s axioms about the “war on terror.” Consider: We know that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM) planned and carried out 9/11. But there is no independent support for KSM’s claim that he acted at Osama’s direction and under his supervision. On the contrary, we know for sure that the expertise and the financing for 9/11 came from KSM’s own group (the U.S. government has accepted, but to my knowledge [has] not verified, that the group’s core is a biological family of Baluchs). This group carried out the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Africa and every other act for which al Qaeda became known. The KSM group included the perpetrators of the 1993 World Trade Center bombings Abdul Rahman Yasin, who came from, returned to, and vanished in Iraq, as well as Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind of that bombing, who came to the U.S. from Iraq on an Iraqi passport and was known to his New York collaborators as “Rashid the Iraqi.” This group had planned the bombing of U.S. airliners over the Pacific in 1995. The core members are non-Arabs. They had no history of religiosity (and the religiosity they now display is unconvincing). They were not creatures of Osama. Only in 1996 did the group come to Osama’s no-account band, and make it count.

So if Codevilla’s seemingly credible analysis is correct, the CIA invented the bin Laden myth which means that the August 6 briefing was full of CIA crap. Further, the isolation and the relative squalor that was Osama bin Laden’s life after 9/11 would indicate that he was not in command of a world wide terrorist group. Did the Muslim extremists use his name to inspire the faithful? You betcha!

@gad-fly:

So if Codevilla’s seemingly credible analysis is correct, the CIA invented the bin Laden myth which means that the August 6 briefing was full of CIA crap.

I have never seen or heard any evidence that bin Laden was an ‘on hands’ leader of the group. Seems as if it’s always just been an ‘inspirational’ one. I doubt very much that anyone seriously believes that he was ‘actively’ leading an organization at the time of his demise.

@Redteam:

Osama provided two things; religious ferver and money. The real brains behind Al Qaida is Ayman al Zawahri, who assumed the position Osama once held. Anyone with half a brain has known that Osama was not the leader he was cracked up to be.

and

Codevilla states that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed planned and carried out 9/11 with financing from a Baluch family. Core members of the KSM group were non-Arabs . There is no proof that KSM ever involved OBL or his rag-tag al Qaeda mujahideen. Our government does not dispute that KSM planned and carried out the dirty deed.

Eichenwald is just another left wing idiot. The terrorists were already in the country before Bush became President and the plot was well on its way. The best time to have stopped AQ would have been in the 90’s before they evolved into what they became. During the 90’s they were treated as a law enforcement issue as opposed to a National Security issue. In the time leading up to 9/11, the only way Bush or Clinton would have been able to prevent the attack, would have been to implement the security policies Bush put into place AFTER 9/11 and to have gone into Afghanistan and attacked AQ. The same lefties who are complaining Bush didn’t do enough to prevent 9/11 are the same lefties who complained about the post 9/11 security policies. Can you imagine the complaints and accusations had he done that BEFORE 9/11? Same goes for going into Afghanistan. That would have been a preemptive strike. Once again, recall how the left opposed Bush’s policy of preemption AFTER 9/11. Eichenwald is another left wing know-it-all historical revisionist who doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground.

Vanity Fair contributing editor and former NYTimes reporter Kurt Eichenwald…

That’s all I need to know to not want to read the book.

@FAITH7: #2
Clinton was offered OBL three separate times and refused to take him. He said they couldn’t find a leagal reason to take him, even though OBL was our #1 wanted enemy at the times.

There were some obvious criticisms of Bush during the first year he was in office when 9/11 happened. The DNC says….”it happened on his watch”. Of course they don’t use that same standard anymore….ie the financial collapse of housing/banking. That should “all” be put back on Bush. But, in all fairness…lets look at things. When Bush got elected…he did not get elected to fix AlQueda. That wasn’t even part of the debate!!! It was buried somewhere by Clinton admin…despite WTC 1, or Cole, etc. Just think…had Gore actually had enough personality to pull the election off and 9/11 had happened some 11 months later. What would the narrative had been?

No, I think it’s fair to criticize a president for that they’ve done since being in office. …despite what they knew. before. In Obama’s case…he had the luxury to know what was coming. He didn’t have to get the finanical info filtered between the CIA and FBI. And he STILL F’d it up. I think it’s fair…if you want to say…Bush/Rumsfeld made bad decision in their RESPONSE to 9/11…that Obama has done the same!! And not only that…he’s said as much, and said…you are in for MORE if you reelect him!

Further, I would add..the MSM response to both things has been disparate. Obama has not even been held accountable by the MSM for his OWN record…much less what he says now. By this time in the Bush amdin…there were books written , movies, etc…all to say Bush is only doing this for oil, 9/11 wasn’t true, and it’s all a lie to get oil out of Iraq…get revenge for his dad and etc. None of that of course…has panned out for anybody. But, that didn’t matter. Coupled with that…the absolute mind bend by congress ….voted for the war before they were against it….and obstruction, code pink protesting at military hospitals…etc…it was absolutely disgusting and insulting. But, we had to have a supreme ‘court” case to say it was ok to make movie about hillary before an election that was paid for by corporate funds. Doih.

Lets not even forget…Obama was not “elected” to his primary. He was “appointed”….same as most of his early career in Chicago of running people off the ballot with legal cases. So, lets stop the BS. And just put it plain….if you don’t want to hold him repsonsbile for what he was a senator and voted on…prior to becoming the president….then he can at LEAST be held responsible for what he’s done since he GOT INTO OFFICE! or…the actions he’s taken to combat the issues he faced. This is not less the same situation as Bush faced. (ie., it wasn’t his fault 9/11 happened…but it was is response..his policies, etc..after..that was his responsbility). Ultimately..it was Bush who straightened out Iraq. For Obama to even symbolically take credit for that should be an insult to everyone’s intelligence.

I’ll be quite now.

I think the only fair retort would be…..did Obama fail to prevent the financial crisis.

@Dc: #20
The propaganda media would call you a racist.

Bush never missed a PDB..ass**** misses every one..to busy talking to his muslim buddies on how to destroy America

Dc
yes and PRESIDENT BUSH WAS SCREWD BY THE DEMOCRATES BEHIND HIS BACK ALSO,
BECAUSE THEY WOULD INTRODUCE THEIR OWN BILLS UNDERNEATH THE BILLS OF BUSH SENDING IT TO BE VOTES ON, BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS WHERE IN MAJORITY OF THE PROCESSING OF THOSE, AND THEY USE THEIR POWER TO STAB THE PRESIDENT IN THE BACK,
THE THING YOU MIGHT ACCUSE BUSH IS TO HAVE NOT BELIEVE OF HOW LOW THE DEMOCRATS WOULD GO TO SCREW HIM, AS THEY DID THEN,
AND BY ELECTING THEM THE AMERICAN GOT SCREWED ALSO,
HOPE THEY ALL SEE THEIR MISTAKES NOW IN NOVEMBER AND THROW THEM ALL OUT

gad- fly
thank you for that new page of where those responsible came from and where the source of
that infamous attack of 9/11, which killed so many,
and further more to our eyes the BALUCHS where afterword embrace and join by other factions as it tell us there are more than many we heard of, and this to promote their religions which all factions follow, even if not all the same but all on the roots basic KORANIC LITERATURE FROM ANCIENT HUMAN BEING.
so this unite all of them together as we see now the attacks specific chosen on the same day they commit
those un-forgiveble horrific beastly actions targeting AMERICA,
IT TELLS US THEY ALL BY WISHING OR BYSTANDER OR PARTICIPATED, INTO IT AND THEREFOR THEY and their family past and future SHOULD NOT BE WELCOME INTO AMERICA UNDER ANY EXCUSE ever, UNDER AND WISH TO EMIGRATE EVER, THAT SHOULD BE THE SEVERE PUNISHMENT OF WHOEVER OF ANY COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD HAS CAUSE A DEATH ON AMERICA OR A FAILED ATTACK OR A WISH TO HURT ANY AMERICANS AND ASSETS OF AMERICANS HERE AND ABROAD WITH NO RECOURSE EVER. and WHY?
WELL BECAUSE OF THE TOLERANT AMERICANS OPEN ARMS COMPASSIONATE BEHAVIOR CHARACTERISTIC ONLY TO THE USA AND FURTHER TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT THEM AGAINST HATERS OR ABUSIVE DOMINATION WE ARE NOW BEING IMPLEMENT BY LEADER WHO IMPOSE HUMILIATING
LAWS AND REGULATIONS TO THE SO TOLERANT AMERICANS,
THIS WOULD FURTHER NEED A TIME TO HAVE THE CORRECTIONS IMPLEMENT BY MANY ARREST AND GREAT IMPLEMENTATION TO CLOSE TIGHT THE BORDERS,
AND CLEAN UP AMERICA OF THE ANTI AMERICA MOVEMENT ON ANY STEP OF THE LADDER BEING FROM THE PRESIDENT TO THE ONE IN THE MANY MOSQUES OF AMERICA, TO THE
WORK FORCES AND UNION BOSS, TO THE MANY PRISONERS, TO THE LOWEST STEP OF THAT LADDER
BYE

@ilovebeeswarzone: #23
Bush could have vetoed any of the bills given to him, but, as I remember, he signed all of them. This is why a lot of us, even the radio talk show hosts condemned him for signing the excessive spending bills the democrats put in front of him. The excessive spending during his administration is as much his fault as the other side.

Smorgasbord
as we learned by credible sources the bills where sneaked under in surely a way to hide the expanses
as to put lies instead of expanses,
as you know how they fake other facts, they knew to fake those too.

@ilovebeeswarzone: #26
I can’t imagine Bush signing ANY bill without his people reading it first. Both parties have lots of people to read bills before they are signed. They aren’t going to sign something without knowing what it says.

I believe the new bomb shell revelation in this prog book will be that President Bush used his American Express Card to purchase the tickets for the terrorists.

@Smorgasbord: He was busy getting a hummer from Monica and therefore his schedule was just to busy. Sounds like 0-blama and his slap of Israel.

My response to The New York Times’ article today blaming President Bush and politicizing the 11th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks:

After receiving the “Bin Laden Preparing to Hijack US Aircraft and Other Attacks” intelligence brief, CLINTON FAILED TO ACT.

The CIA’s “OBL unit” informed him multiple times that they could take Osama bin Laden out, and CLINTON FAILED TO ACT.

We’re talking about “a two-hour window to strike” missiles ready and American lives at stake and CLINTON FAILED TO ACT.

Clinton knew OBL was at Tarnak Farms — he could have permanently “crop-dusted” it! — but CLINTON FAILED TO ACT.

The final dagger in Clinton’s complicity: “NBC News has obtained, exclusively, extraordinary secret video, shot by the U.S. government. It illustrates an enormous opportunity the Clinton administration had to kill or capture bin Laden. In the fall of 2000, in Afghanistan, unmanned, unarmed spy planes called Predators flew over known al-Qaeda training camps…” and CLINTON FAILED TO ACT!

Source for quote:
Osama bin Laden: Missed Opportunities
The CIA had pictures. Why wasn’t the al-Qaida leader captured or killed?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4540958/ns/nbcnightlynews/t/osama-bin-laden-missed-opportunities/

@Common Sense: #29
The Israeli prime minister should go on the David Letterman show with Obama so he can talk with Obama without messing up Obama’s schedule.

@Smorgasbord: Now that is a GOOD suggestion. I knew there where smart people on this string.

@retire05:

So I guess we can say that the Clinton Administration failed to do its job since almost all the pilots for the four planes had obtained their visas in 2000, before Bush took office.

Retire,

There are WAY TOO MANY “students” who have overstayed their visas. The country is LOUSY with them. We also have no idea how many of the “ground team” for this operation.

We need to keep the number of “Students” down to a number which our ICE officials can actually monitor. We also need to implant into them a chip to keep track of them. We’ve had that technology for a while.

@Ivan:

You think ICE is going to even start to monitor those who come here and overstay their visas when you have an admitted illegal immigrant speaking at the DNC convention? Dream on.

@retire05: I’m not convinced that Obama is not an illegal immigrant. Remains to be seen.

@retire05:

Dream on.

Obviously I’m not talking about what could/would happen, but what should.

Neither Democrat or Republican, especially President Bush who INCREASED student visas, care to address our immigration problem.

Heck, reading this article and responses make it clear-
Bush prevented 9/11 and got Osama bin Laden.
Way to go !!!!

Lonesomebri
yes if you read upside down
it sound like it

@Lonesomebri: So, let’s see how this works… Bush was in office a little less than 8 months when 9/11 happened and it’s all his fault. Obama has been in office 3 yrs and 8 months and so far nothing that has happened has been his fault, it’s all still on Bush. I was about to say that’s liberal logic, but I would be wrong. It’s idiots logic.

@Common Sense: #32
We know there are at least two of us. It takes one to know one.

@retire05: #34

You think ICE is going to even start to monitor those who come here and overstay their visas when you have an admitted illegal immigrant speaking at the DNC convention?

Did Obama finally admit he was an illegal? I guess I should have watched it. Does that mean that Joe Biden is now president. I don’t know which would be worse: Our country PURPOSELY destroyed by Obama, or ACCIDENTALLY destroyed by Biden.

@Ivan: #33
Unlike animals, students can unimplant the implanted chip. They should have to check in with a designated official like parolees do. They should have to go in their office and check in. Maybe police stations could be used for checkin points. They could easily identy who the person is, and every city has one.

@Redteam: #35
Go to the below web sight. If it doesn’t convince you Obama is an illegal, nothing will. Start with just the images and the info about them. Look at the info with the idea that you want to be convinced that it is real. Looking at the certificate closely, anyone with an open mind can tell it was done with a word processor, not a typwriter.

From A to Z: What’s wrong with Obama’s birth certificate?

I won’t go into Obama using someone else’s Social Security number, or having 39 different SS numbers in his name, or his Selective Service registration card being declared a fake by the experts who examined it.

The biggest question I have is why isn’t the republican party or Fox News jumping on this? This would end the democratic party, especially since they have admitted that they didn’t vett Obama to the 50 states like the Constitution requires. This is why I say we don’t have two parties any more, just one party with two branches. The republican party knows we have an illegal president, but want him to stay. Why? I suggest that those of you who have a republican Federal representative, ask them. Include the above link in case they haven’t taken the time to look at the birth certificate. I printed the whole article out and sent it to my three Federal reps so they wouldn’t have to take the time to look it up unless they wanted to. I know politicians can’t read everything sent to them, but this way SOMEONE in their office will read it, and maybe be convinced to ask that politician to check into it.

@Ivan: #36
Both parties have addressed the illegals problem. Business who donate to the republican party want the cheap labor, so the republicans are for them. The democrats what the illegals in hopes of adding more votes, legal or illegal. Remember how they want people to just walk in and vote without showing any ID, but any event they have, you have to show ID. Isn’t that racist?

@Redteam: #39
Think how powerful the liberals are admitting Bush was, when THE ONE who was going to keep the oceans from rising, can’t keep the USS America from sinking. Bush must have been the most powerful president we’ve ever had, since THE ONE can’t fix what Bush messed up. It’s time to take the USS America to a different shipyard.

Smorgasbord
hi
on your 40
it takes two to know ONE,
I could not resist this one ,
I’m kidding
bye

Redteam
hi,
I would find RETIRE MAJOR GENERAL PAUL VALLELY
MORE CREDIBLE THEN OBAMA ON HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE FORGERY,
HE IS ONE OF MANY SMART PEOPLE WARNING THE AMERICAN ABOUT OBAMA’S LIES COVERED
BY THE MEDIA, AND NOT ONLY ONE, BUT MANY LIES TO DECEIVE THE GOOD AMERICAN WHO WANT TO BELIEVE HE IS NOT A DANGEROUS PERSON WITH HIS PEOPLE WHO DID EVERYTHING TO HAVE HIM WIN THE PRESIDENCY,
NOW AS YOU SEE EVEN THE MUSLIMS ARE FINDING HIM A FRAUD AND THEY WHERE PROTECTED BY HIM ALL THE REVOLUTIONS WHERE HELP BY OBAMA, AND NOW THEY SEE THE TRUE PERSON , WHILE SOME AMERICANS WHO DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE STILL FIND WAYS TO DEPICT ANYONE WARNING THEM,
BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BELIEVE IT CAN’T HAPPEN IN AMERICA,
AND IT DID HAPPEN AND THEY AND OBAMA ARE STILL DECEIVING THE PEOPLE,
CLINTON IS TALKING TO SAVE THE PARTY SO TO GET HILARY IN THE PRESIDENCY FOR 2016,
NOT BECAUSE HE CARE FOR OBAMA THAT IS ANOTHER LIAR
CORRUPT TO THE CORE,
AND WHEN YOU FIND A MAN WITH HIGH CREDENTIALS TAKE ON THE FALSE CERTIFICATE FRAUD,
THE NON BELIEVERS, BETTER BELIEVE THIS CREDIBLE PERSON WHO DOES IT FOR HIS COUNTRY TO KNOW THE TRUTH, OR YOU ARE A HOPELESS CASE DOOM TO STAY IN YOUR STUPEFIED CONDITION

@Smorgasbord: #43 Smorgasbord, I have long been convinced that obama is not a natural born citizen. I am reasonably sure he is both a british citizen and an indonesian citizen and is not a US citizen. I certainly can’t explain why no news people will touch this. Once he’s out and the Repubs try to run someone like Rubio (who is not a natural born citizen) they will be all over the story like stink on S**t.

@Redteam: #48
As I mentioned before, I printed out the story below and sent it to my three republican Federal politicians:

From A to Z: What’s wrong with Obama’s birth certificate?

I told them that they didn’t need to reply. What they do or don’t do will be their reply. I still suggest that everyone who accepts that Obama is a fake, at least send the link to thier Federal politicians. Printing it our and mailing it to them will mean that someone in their office will read it, and maybe get curious about the info.

You said you don’t know why the MSM isn’t covering this. Another question is why isn’t the republican party acting on it? They could easily get rid of Obama and have him in prison and destroy the democratic party and the propaganda media. This really scares me. The USA has and is trying to infiltrate countries to overthrow them. Others are doing it to us. How far have they gotten? My fear is that they have gotten further than we know. To overthrow a country, we infiltrate their, churches, schools, civic organizations, news media, and government. I am fearful that ALL OF THE ABOVE has happened to us. The churches don’t preach God like they used to, the schools graduate kids that can’t read, and are taught that the USA isn’t special, ssome civic organizations don’t spread patriatism like they used to, the MSM is a propaaganda machine for the liberal agenda, and our government isn’t putting “WE THE PEOPLE” first any more.

Smorgasbord
hi,
I think they know, and they are waiting for NOVEMBER, THEY ARE HOPEFUL THAT IT WILL BE FIX IN AN ORDERLY MATTER, so to spare the citizens of armfull events,
you just have to look at the OWLS AND THE OTHER FACTIONS OF ANARCHISTS THE OCCUPIERS, WHAT THEY DID , AND THEY ARE NOT DEAD, THEY WILL RETURN AGAIN TO DESTROY AND HURT THE LAW OFFICERS WHO ARE TRYING TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS WITH LIMITED MEANS THEY HAVE,
SO if you add to that other groups we know to be violent, it would become out of control for long enough to leave many scars behind,
so the those elected who still are true to AMERICA are keeping their politically correct attitude for peace’s sake,
remember the song,, GIVE PEACE A CHANCE, WE HAVE JUST BUT A SHORT TIME TO WAIT, AND AMERICA WILL RISE UP AND CONFOUND HER ENEMIES WITHIN, BY RALLYING HER TOLERANT PEOPLE AND LEAD THEM TOWARD VICTORY AGAINST THE ANTI AMERICAN LEADERSHIP,
WHICH HAS TAKEN OVER INSPIRED BY FOREIGN BAD INFLUENCE THEY HAVE EMBRACE TOTALY,
CAUSING AMERICA BIG PROBLEMS AND HURTS.