I told you this was coming.
democrats have set a new low for behavior. When someone from the Obama suck-up Politico likens it to “stalking” you know it has to be bad.
But Democrats are testing the outer limits of that understanding with a practice that raises questions about when campaign tracking becomes something more like stalking.
While most serious campaigns on both sides use campaign trackers — staffers whose job is to record on video every public appearance and statement by an opponent — House Democrats are taking it to another level. They’re now recording video of the homes of GOP congressmen and candidates and posting the raw footage on the Internet for all to see.
And not just displaying their homes but also posting their addresses
Republicans whose homes have been videotaped say they understand that politics is a contact sport and that every public utterance they make is fair game. But, they argue, filming a home — and posting actual addresses — ought to be off-limits, if only out of respect for their families and neighbors.
“I think your family or your personal life should be off-limits unless it enters the campaign,” said Ohio Rep. Jim Renacci, who said a neighbor informed him that a tracker had been crouching in the bushes taking footage of the first-term congressman’s home. “It’s hard for my neighbors or my family to get comfortable when someone is in the bushes.”
democrats claim Republicans do it too but maybe they don’t
And on Tuesday, aides to Democratic Rep. Tim Bishop said they found a tracker working for his Republican opponent, Randy Altschuler, sitting outside the congressman’s Long Island, N.Y., home with a camera.
But Bishop’s campaign said it did not believe any footage of the home had been made public.
Their excuses for this behavior are lame
“House Republicans have spent this entire Congress trying to hide that they’re protecting benefits for millionaires and perks for themselves instead of protecting the middle class, but we won’t let them keep it secret any longer,” Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee spokesman Jesse Ferguson wrote in an email.
One GOP Congressman made it clear he won’t tolerate abuse of his family:
“It’s one of those things. We know we’re in this position, and it’s part of the job. I wish it wasn’t,” he said, noting that a mechanic on one of his farms chased away a tracker filming the scene. “We have alarms on the house. My wife knows how to use weapons. As far as safety goes, we do our best to be cautious and to keep track of our kids.”
The blame for this horrid behavior belongs entirely to Barack Obama. He has called for violence repeatedly:
** Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
** Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
** Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
** Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”
** Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
** Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
** Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
** Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
Barack Obama has led the way for democrats in smearing the opposition- specifically Romney donors– and their children.
His henchman David Axelrod, who has to be one of the slimiest operatives ever, manages to come into possession of sealed divorce records whenever he needs them.
So what’s next for democrats? Will they video children of Republicans so they can be harassed? Will democrats poison the pets of Republicans? Are they hoping for another Jared Loughner to punch back twice as hard, bring a gun and punish their enemies?
I predicted this election would be the ugliest, nastiest and filthiest election in history and we’re there.
DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education.
DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed.
Except for liberals being foolish.
I also read about this elsewhere.
Seems there are operatives (I have no idea if they are paid by elected Dems or are free lancers) who squat in the front yard bushes of Republicans, scaring the spouse and children.
They even follow the Republican congressman (and his family) to the stores and take photos of their purchases!
Gosh!
I hope these ”wicked” Republicans didn’t buy any goose pate or sugary snacks or fail to bring reuseable bags!
This is harassment, plain & simple.
I hope they get arrested and charged for trespassing and/or stalking.
I hope they get the book thrown at them.
Years ago Paula Jones lived on my block.
She was able to get the police to prevent such harassment against her at her home and neighborhood.
Dr John You don’t really believe this crap. Do you? And it’s just Dems. Ofcourse.
BTW Have you gotten over the loss of your much maligned and misunderstood friend Col. Gaddaffi?
@Richard Wheeler: Type in “Brad Pitts’ mother” on your search engine and see what you come up with. Since she spoke up against gay marriage and endorsed Romney, she has been called just about every vile name in the book and has received death threats. The statements referenced by Dr. John are a matter of public record and have been posted here more than once. He did however miss one of my favorites that being the, “take those sonofabitches out” quote from Hoffa Jr. with Obama standing by his side in obvious agreement. Surely you are not denying those incidents took place are you? BTW, did you support Bush’s decision to remove Saddam from power?
Hey Richard Wheeler….why don’t you get off the crack pipe and join those of us that are conscious and in the real world? The Messiah and his thug followers are the dirtiest, most dishonest I’ve seen in at least 45 years.
http://bluearkansasblog.com/?p=8417 Ken Aden’s Campaign Manager Comes Home To Find Cat Killed; “LIBERAL” Written On Its Corpse
Another Vet Don’t you think it irrational to suggest Dems. any worse than Repubs. when it comes to dirty politics. Watergate and Nixon’s plumbers and bagmen come to mind( that would be 43 years ago H Treat ) Shootings of abortion clinic Drs. We could go tit for tat but a futile waste of time.
I did not support the shock and awe bombing of Baghdad.I most certainly would have supported a surgical removal of the tyrant Saddam without loss of American lives. I’d say the same for Assad.
Do you think the “Mad Colonel” got a bum deal?
@Richard Wheeler:
As a matter of fact, Rich, it really is that simple. Just turn off that part of your brain that recognizes shades of gray and give yourself over to the good Doctor’s ministrations. You should know by now not to question Dr John because he never exaggerates, simplifies, misconstrues, or twists reality to tortuous degrees to make his point or land a cheap shot. Point in fact, did you know there’s a veteran, Tammy Duckworth, running for Congress who had both her legs blown off in Iraq flying Black Hawk helicopters, and the incumbent whom she’s running against, Joe Walsh, publicly questioned whether she is in fact a hero and chastised her for talking ab0ut her military record? Ask Dr John what party Joe Walsh is from. I dare ya! Cause he’s gonna bring the hammer of truth down on you when you learn, to your everlasting chagrin, Walsh is a ‘Dimocrat’!
Tom I do know the Walsh- Buckworth story. Cowardly. I like Dem. Pres candidate ’52 and ’56 Adlai Stevenson’s comment when falsely accused of being gay by J.Edgar Hoover–kettle, black. “I’ll make a bargain with Repubs. If they will stop telling lies about Dems., we will stop telling the truth about them.” Still valid in 2012.
Semper Fi
@Richard Wheeler:
Great quote, Rich. I was curious to see if the Duckworth story would make an appearance here, but not shocked to see it hadn’t. I guess I only thought it might, since quite a few conservative vets condemned Walsh on his facebook page for going too far. I’m sure someone will come along now to tell us those were actually just Democratic plants.
@Richard Wheeler: Richard Nixon and the current occupant of the WH have a lot in common with regards to bullying and paranoia. It wasn’t right with Nixon nor is right with Obama. Condemning one while giving a free pass to the other is a bit hypocritical. If I recall right after the Giffords’ shooting, you took a different tone with regards to provocative language which was blamed on conservatives when in fact the shooter had the background of being just the opposite of a conservative.
A surgical strike on Saddam would have left his entire power apparatus in place. One of his sons, both of whom were more crazy than he was, would have taken over and we would have been right back to square one. Don’t worry, I won’t accuse you of being a Saddam lover though : ). As for the colonel, the rebels taking him out didn’t cause me to shed any tears because I believe he was behind Pan Am 103 even though we were never given any proof of that. Had Obama authorized an operation to take him out, based on proof that he was behind the bombing, I would have supported that as well. Getting involved in Libya’s civil war however was a mistake. We now own that country like it or not.
This is what I have found about what Walsh said about Tammy Duckworth. Please point out where he said she was not a hero or post a link to him making those claims. I would like to read them myself because if he did make them, he is a piece of garbage. A couple of elections ago, Duckworth ran in my district even though she didn’t live in it. As an Iraq Vet with two tours, I had no intention of voting for her because she didn’t live in my district nor did she represent my views. Does that mean I disrespect her service or don’t consider her a hero? If we want to go there, look at who was busy calling our troops war criminals and comparing them to Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Saddam’s henchmen, and terrorists. Every one of them had a ‘D’ next to their name and I don’t recall anyone in their party or any of their supporters who post here on FA stepping up to condemn their accusations. The dems trying to take the moral high ground on this issue is laughable even if true.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/rep-joe-walsh-double-amputee-opponent-absolutely-a-hero-but-her-service-doesnt-demand-our-vote/
What’s next for Democrats?
How about Democrats in the Senate today blocked a vote on President Obama’s proposal to raise taxes on those earning more than $250,000 per year!?
Dems want Class Warfare.
They won’t vote to extend the Bush era tax cuts EVEN when their own dear leader is behind it!
Obama can’t muster even ONE Dem vote for his plan!
This matches Obama’s record for past bills and budgets.
He could not get even ONE Democrat to vote for any of them!
@another vet:
Small clarification. What I stated was that he, “questioned whether she is in fact a hero and chastised her for talking ab0ut her military record”. this is quote I based that on. You can decide for yourself:
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-rep-walsh-appears-to-question-duckworths-hero-status-20120703,0,87883.story
@Tom:
You all are having an interesting back and forth.
I am reminded of Cindy Sheehan who, it was thought, was innoculated against critics simply by virtue of the fact that she was a Gold Star mom.
But you cannot go through life riding on your old laurels forever.
At some point you must stand or fall based on your own actions.
Sounds like this lady has certain policies many here disagree with.
It doesn’t change her heroic status, just adds to her resume with more relevant points.
@Nan G:
I don’t disagree, and I certainly don’t think anyone should vote for someone whose policies they don’t support, regardless of their military record. If i did, I would have voted for John McCain. But tell me what that has to do with A) exposing the fradulence of Dr. John’s claim that the Democrats have “set a new low for behavior”? or B) the fact that Joe Walsh is a national disgrace?
@Tom: It was a stupid comment on his part and I can see where it would be interpreted as questioning her being a hero IF he hadn’t made numerous references to her being a hero prior to that. As a matter of fact, if he hadn’t made all of the previous references, then I would say he was not only questioning her service, but degrading it as well.
@another vet:
Like I said, you can decide for yourself. My question is, why even go there? Clearly he’s annoyed she talks about her service and it seems to me, in the campaign grind, he slipped up, went off message, and his disdain for her came through. If you’d rather believe his rote talking points, the stuff he pretty much has to say, be my guest. But I choose to believe his contempt for her came through right there. Whether or not that contempt has anything to do with her actual service, or if it’s just personal, it’s disrespectful to say that about someone who lost what she lost.
@Tom: When Duckworth ran in my district her whole campaign revolved around the fact that she was Vet who lost two legs in Iraq. That’s all we heard about. She didn’t emphasize her political views because she was a Dem running in a Republican district. She lost by a good margin. The next election another Reserve colonel ran for my district. Her story was the same. She served in Bosnia and 6 months in Iraq and therefore we should vote for her. Like Duckworth, she did not live in the district. I did not vote for her either even though her and I were in the same Reserve unit at one point and were in Bosnia at the same time. She lost by an even bigger margin than Duckworth did. Service to one’s country is something that is to be proud of and respected however telling someone they should vote for you simply because you are a Vet without emphasizing your positions on the issues doesn’t pass the test.
@another vet:
I don’t disagree. And coming from a vet, it’s good to hear you don’t rubber stamp your support based on one’s record. I will stand by my opinion that I find Walsh’s comments condescending and disrespectful, but I wouldn’t necessarily expect anyone to change their vote based on them. If just comes back to bad behavior not being a monopoly on either side. One thing I will say in her defense is that I don’t necessarily have a problem with someone talking about their military record if it’s relevant to the job they’re seeking. How is it different from Romney talking about Bain after all? If she can make a case that her military career prepared her well for the job, that’s as fair an argument as most.
@Tom: I agree wholeheartedly that if the military experience is relevant to the job, it should be talked about as it pertains to the job. Being a congressional rep involves more than just military experience. If the job she was seeking were in the security field or DoD contractor type work etc. then military experience would probably be the sole factor. Obviously there would be other areas such as leadership type positions that require leadership and organizational skills. After all, there is a reason for Veterans preference other than just honoring service. I served with an individual on my first tour in Iraq who padded his resume to the extent of getting a questionable PH. Coincidentally, he ran for office when he returned. Had I lived in his state/district, he would have not gotten my vote because of the bit of doubt in my mind even though he ran as a Republican. I ranked him right up there with John Kerry. Just out of curiosity, how do you feel about comments made by Durbin, Kennedy, and Kerry comparing troops to dictators?
@Richard Wheeler:
Rich
I believe it is a definite possibility. Consider the violence of the Occupy movement. Consider the deaths associated with it. Consider the fact that DNA from an Occupy protester was linked to an 8 year old murder.
Overlay that with Obama’s incessant fomentation of hate.
(“I am all that stands between you and the pitchforks”)
Remember democrats storming the home of a banker when the banker’s son was inside?
Yes, I certainly do think it’s possible.
Occupy Group Advises Firebombing Police Officers During RNC…
http://redalertpolitics.com/2012/07/11/occupy-the-rnc-instructional-videos-advises-firebombing-police-officers/
I may be underestimating things.
@another vet:
I would need examples to comment. If you’re referring to Durbin’s comments on soldiers at Guantanamo, I believe he apologized for that. Not to run too close to a Nuremberg excuse, but I tend to blame the guys in charge for situations like Guantanamo where abuses happen. It’s like anything else, everyone is responsible for their own actions, but to put people in impossible situations, and then hang them out to dry when things go wrong… that doesn’t sit well with me. I think there are higher up people who were, at the very least, indirectly responsible for what happened there. And I don’t only mean military brass. But this could lead down a rabbit hole real quick, so I’ll leave it there.
@drjohn: Remember when an OWS supporter posted here threatening to kill us and later when a NBP type came and threatened the same after the Martin shooting? Eventually like all bullies, these types will mess with the wrong crowd and find out they are not as bad as they think they are.
@Tom:
I read the provided links and watched the video. I don’t have a horse in this race, and incidentally too am a veteran. While it was tactless, Walsh did not say that Duckworth wasn’t a hero, nor did he disparage her service. He simply made an all encompassing rule of thumb generalization that “true heroes” don’t talk about their service like that. (i.e. the candidate continually referencing her service as a reason for the public to elect her,) It is the Duckworth team who takes that and re-interpets it as an insult.
Saying that it ‘sounds like’ someone is saying ‘this’ or ‘that’ is putting words in their mouth. It’s an unfair practice that far too many politicians practice.
It is for the most part true, that as a general rule veterans tend to be humble about their service, and normally don’t continually talk about their military service to their nation. Having said that, I’ll accept the possibility that some do, because I know it is so. I’ve known fellow servicemen who would talk about their time in the military, telling the same tale over and over until you could recite it yourself from memory. There are others who for their own reasons may never mention their service, and whom a casual acquaintance may never learn that they served. They just don’t talk about it. I’ve even run across an occasional braggart who’s ‘war stories’ are on par with a Hollywood action movie. Does that make any of them less a hero? of course not.
This is all a complete distraction and has absolutely no bearing on Dr. John’s article. This “we know where you live” in your face political intimidation tactic is a disturbing development that is on par with extortion. With the Occupy and unions protesting in front of homes, scaring families, and campaign goons stalking and even trespassing, eventually someone is going to get hurt or killed.
Those trying this tactic might not like the outcome because some States and some Communities treat this sort of action as Stalking those Liberals trying to do such a, “great” fight might end up arrested for stalking the wrong house.
If my memory recalls, something like this happened in the 1930’s by a group of people utterly loyal to a Socialist Regime taking photographs of political rivals, their homes, their wives, and children and then using the information to know when to strike as a mob to harm or kill all the targets outright… Oh right, it was the German SA for the Nazis’… Wait a second, isn’t it a Liberal meme to try and claim Republicans or Conservatives as the facists and yet Liberal groups go this low to mimic the horrific German SA’s data gathering of private lives of political rivals?
And another question, another Liberal talking point is all about them having their “Privacy” but apparently their political counter-parts can’t have any form of privacy?
@Ditto: I’ve known fellow servicemen who would talk about their time in the military, telling the same tale over and over until you could recite it yourself from memory.
That’s why I don’t hang at my VFW that much. I don’t want to hear the same war stories over and over which is too bad because the WWII Vets have interesting stories and there aren’t very many of them left to share that part of our history. People ask or prod me about war stories and I just shrug them off. It’s been my experience, as it’s probably been yours, that those who tell the most stories did the least. It is funny how when you hear the same story from the same person over and over, the details seem to change.
As for the original topic of the thread, you are right on that someone will eventually get killed. It’s surprising it hasn’t happened already. Put the threats together with the deteriorating economy and all the uncertainty and it creates a volatile situation. It is also very irresponsible for POTUS to be fanning the flames.
Within the American politico has there ever been a greater spy on our liberties than lifelong Repub. J. Edgar Hoover? His contemporary, who ruined many lives during his alcohol fueled witch hunts, was Sen. Joseph McCarthy Republican Senator from Wisconsin. This topic is truly a two-edged sword though I’d argue Repubs, have wielded a sharper rapier.
Another Vet Attended my monthly VFW meeting last night. I’m in awe of many of the WW11 vets who tell their incredible stories with such humility.
@Richard Wheeler: Unfortunately they are dying off. We don’t have too many left at my post. They are very interesting to talk to. One of the guys I used to shoot with was a corporal who served under Patton and was fond of telling the story of how he captured a German colonel in a whorehouse in France and when the colonel told him that he outranked him, he told the colonel, “Yeah, but I have the gun.” He has a certain way of telling the story that makes you laugh.
Need to shoot a few of them. The practice will dry up.
@Richard Wheeler:
Hoover is a great example of what happens when you give a federal agency too much power Rich. Once they have it, they’ll do anything to hang onto it……both sides. That is the biggest problem facing our country today, the power of federal agencies.
It’s funny how these two statements tie together. During the McCarthy hearings, many Hollywood actors were blacklisted. Now, conservatives hide in Hollywood to avoid being blacklisted.
The left called Bush a Nazi, the right calls Obama a Marxist. You throw all of the right into the same category as abortion bombers, but cry fowl when your side is lumped in with OWS, the Weather Underground, and the Unabomber.
Personally, I believe if you and I were neighbors and a left wing group was camping on my yard threatening my family, you’d plant your boot in their butts. I would do the same if the roles were reversed. The only difference would be that the entire MSM would show up if it happened to you, and the streets would be eerily quiet if it happened to me.
It seems I recognized this tactic first being used by right-wing religocons against the personal lives of abortion doctors. Not to say they were the first, but they were the first I noticed. The lesson to be taken here is that before taking notice of the speck in the eye of the opponent, be sure there aren’t any timbers in your own eyes.
@Richard Wheeler:
Just as I finished typing about the power of federal agencies, I read this:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_162-57470264/newspaper-doj-lawyer-tried-to-stifle-reporter/
Hoover would be proud. Way to go Holder.
Aqua Neighbor I would definately remove them as forcefully as needed. Got a feeling I’d have a few choice words for Sean and Rush when they showed up. lol
Did you see where Ted K.( unabomber) got invite to Harvard 50th reunion?
How’s it look for the Seminoles? Irish open in Dublin against Navy on Sept.1.
@Richard Wheeler:
Almost made it to the show in the College World Series. I have big hopes for the Noles football team this year. I saw one poll that has them at#11. I don’t see them in the BCS this year, but I believe they’ll finish in the top 10, maybe even 6.
No I didn’t, but I’m not shocked. The folks in academia thought his manifesto was the greatest thing evah.
I’m not a big fan of Sean’s, he annoys me. I like Rush, he makes me laugh. I like Mike Church, love Neal Boortz, like Andrew Wilkow. I tend to lean more libertarian than some of my conservative friends.
@Richard Wheeler:
Why do you continue to repeat Democrat falsehoods? Tell me, exactly whose life did Joe McCarthy ruin? Or are you like most progressives I have had the displeasure of knowing and you have no idea what the Venona Papers are? Or what infamous Russian spy had the code name “Liberal?”
@Aqua:
The dems have a history of doing things like that going all the way back to FDR at least.
As for harrassment of those they hate, Google what they’ve done to bankers. They made it a point to go after their families and children.
Retire 05 Should have figured that old Irish drunk would be on your highlight reel. No worries, you’ve got Col. West to call out all the current day Commies serving in Congress.
People, Jesus Christ is NOT running for office.
You have to decide between regular politicians, warts and all.
But back to the fact that some of the stalkers are in Wisconsin (read CRAZY Dems).
Reid Ribble is a Reublican congressman there.
His home is far from lavish.
It looks like simple intimidation tactics of the same sort used by CRAZY Dems in Wisconsin during their walkout and takeover in the state capital.
Now Jim Renacci is an Ohio Republican congressman.
Isn’t that where the Wisconsin Dems ran to when they hid out?
(I could be wrong.)
Filming his home and his business locations is an invitation to crazies to maybe commit a property crime against one of them.
The fear and intimidation factors didn’t work during the Walker recall and they won’t work here, either.
So, other than to incite a CRAZY, what is the thought-process behind this tactic?
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee spokesman Jesse Ferguson seems to think it helps if everyone sees where everyone lives.
Un-named Democrat officials said placing the videos on the DCCC’s website and YouTube serve a useful purpose of making the footage available to friendly outside groups for use in TV commercials.
That way, they don’t violate laws against coordinating with those groups.
Basically, this year we are seeing the emergence of a new paparazzi, political paparazzi.
These are not freelancers
They are being supported by Dem donations.
Soros and his ilk are behind it all.
@Richard Wheeler: There aren’t too many in Congress who put their careers on the line to save the lives of people serving underneath them. I’d much rather serve with an Allen West than a John Kerry.
Another Vet No doubt West was a fine Army Officer. He’s saying Dem. Congressmen are members of the Communist Party. I’m simply saying if you loved Joe McCarthy, like Retire 05, you gotta love Col. West.
BTW As you know the men who served ON the swift boat with Kerry STRONGLY supported him.
@Richard Wheeler: This is straight from the CPUSA’s own web site. Read the fourth paragraph. It clearly identifies members of the Progressive Caucus in Congress as their allies which were the people West was referring to.
http://www.cpusa.org/convention-discussion-what-can-we-learn-from-the-movement-for-health-care-reform/
As for Kerry, the only one who knows 100% for sure if he faked his PH’s is John Kerry. Given his personality, his lies about throwing his medals over the fence at the WH, being in Cambodia on Christmas Eve in 1968, and the witnessing of atrocities comitted by our troops all of which he had to backtrack on, and the fact that no one else in his unit was awarded 3 PH’s in 3 months, I believe he embellished his record, but that is just my opinion. Again, I wasn’t there and he is the one who has to look at himself in the mirror everyday. What is not open to debate to me is the way he slandered the Vets who served there. Even if the rest of his claims are true, what he did when he came back is unforgivable and overshadows his record regardless of how true or not it was.
@Richard Wheeler:
Ah, yes, the old “McCarthy was nothing but a disgusting drunk” meme that was pushed by LBJ’s chief aide. Once again, a falsehood pushed by Democrats to destroy a man who pointed the finger at the encroaching Communism that was the Democrat Party. McCarthy was not known to drink heavily until AFTER the Democrats did all the could to destroy his reputation. But then, I also am not surprised that you didn’t know those facts either.
As to Col. West, you are not fit to shine his boots. But I guess you don’t really understand the purpose of the Congressional Progressive Caucus (the word “progressive” being used because Americans would recoil if they used the word “Socialist” was used) which was started by the self-proclaimed Socialist, Bernie Sanders. How many of the members of the of the CPC are actually members of the Socialist Party of America? Did you ever wonder?
Again, I have to wonder why progressives (liberals) are so painfully uninformed.
Retire o5 says “the encroaching Communism that was the Democrat Party” You even sound like McCarthy, who was censured by The Senate and died a disgraced drunk at age 48.
He was a heavy drinker long before his ill fated Senate rantings.
Another Vet Seems to me Par.4 ref. is to allies in support of single payer option.
BTW I know you’re a relatively young guy but have you ever seen film of Joe McCarthy in action?
@Richard Wheeler:
Are you really going to try and tell me that the current Democrat Party is the party of JFK? Perhaps you should read JFK’s speech to New York businessmen and tell me if the party of Jim Crow, the KKK, the CRA filibuster stands for anything that JFK told those men that day.
You stick you head in the sand and say “No, no, no. There are no Communists in the DNC.” Yet, you never address the very thing that shows Allen West is correct, and that is the CPC. You want to ignore that Socialism is the root of all “ism” political theories, such as fascism, Marxism and Communism. And yes, I know the tiny differences between them.
So, we can assume that you have never read the Verona Papers which pretty much exonerated Joe McCarthy.
@retire05:
That would require an objective viewpoint, something Rich has trouble finding even when it’s right in front of him.
Conservatives recognize there are socialists and big-government types within the GOP, and we call them out on it, constantly. Liberals, and liberal/progressives, refuse to even entertain the thought that anyone in the Democratic party is even remotely associated with socialism, even when they repeat, nearly verbatim, accepted socialist theory from historically recognized socialist figures.
Retire 05 Pretty hard to find anybody of any Party who exonerates McCarthy.
Off subject Hearty congrats to Mick,Keith,Charlie on your 50TH Anniversary. The Rolling Stones are the greatest Rock and Roll Band in the world!!
@Richard Wheeler:
No wonder you and I disagree so much, Rich. I have been of the opinion that the Rolling Stones are the most successful crappy band, ever. Never did like their music.
John G. There it is. Don”t like The Stones chances are we wouldn’t get along. Oh well.
@Richard Wheeler: Yes, I’ve seen clips of McCarthy and lived through Nixon. However, getting back to the original point of the thread, neither are running this year so they won’t be an issue. Obama’s divisiveness is an issue because he is running.
Define young.