The Democrat’s political rhetoric; so full of crap [Reader Post]

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During the one-sided health care “debate” Nancy Pelosi found an interesting source for funding the program- cuts in Medicare.

(CNSNews.com) – House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said today that Congress will pay for half of the $1 trillion health care reform bill that President Obama wants enacted by “squeezing” Medicare and Medicaid to wring out what she called “waste, fraud, abuse, redundancy, obsolescence and whatever it is.”

Pelosi was asked at her weekly press briefing if she agreed with President Obama that much of the health care reform plan can be paid for by cutting Medicare and Medicaid.

“Half the bill will be paid for by squeezing excesses out of the [Medicare and Medicaid] system, and there is $500 billion dollars to do that and we’re looking for more,” Pelosi said. “That can be achieved–waste, fraud, abuse, redundancy, obsolescence, whatever it is. Squeeze it out of the system; and that means out of the providers and the rest as well.”

Of course, Pelosi had two full years to find and eliminate that waste without any interference from Republicans.

Fail.

Fast forward to April, 2011. About those cuts? That waste? That fraud? That redundancy? That obsolescence?

(CNSNews.com) – House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) sent a message to House Republicans about their proposed 2012 budget that would reform entitlement spending, stating on Friday: “Hands off our Medicare.”

At a press conference with Democratic leaders outside the U.S. Capitol building, Pelosi said, “This budget, we’ve always said we will judge every initiative that comes before us as to whether it creates jobs, as it reduces the deficit, strengthens the middle class and continues the economic growth of our economy. This budget does none of the above as it ends Medicare. Hands off our Medicare! Hands off our Medicare!”

How about June?

Nah.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi on Sunday described negotiations to raise the debt limit as “civil and constructive,” but reiterated that any Republican proposal that cuts Medicare benefits for seniors is a “nonstarter.”

“There is a bipartisan discussion going on that is civil and constructive, and that they’ve come to some areas where they can possibly reach agreement. But nothing is agreed to until everything is agreed to,” the California Democrat said.

“But I welcome this line of questioning because this is a place where we’re looking how we go forward with a sound fiscal policy to reduce the deficit,” she added, “and I could never support any arrangement that reduce benefits for Medicare.”

Democrat cuts to Medicare= Good
Republican cuts to Medicare= Bad

On July 5, Obama sought his inner Gandhi:

“I believe that right now we’ve got a unique opportunity to do something big, to tackle our deficit in a way that forces our government to live within its means, that puts our economy on a stronger footing for the future and still allows us to invest in that future,” Obama said.

So what happened to his first budget this year? Was it something big? Was it something to tackle our deficit? Was it something that would put us on stronger footing for the future? Or was it something blasted 97-0 by the Senate? So when did Obama have this epiphany? I’d say it was April 4, 2011.

Obama had this wisdom to offer:

“It’s my hope that everybody’s going to leave their ultimatums at the door, that we’ll all leave our political rhetoric at the door, and that we’re going to do what’s best for our economy and do what’s best for our people.”

Leave the political rhetoric at the door? You mean like this?

During a news conference at the White House, Obama expressed impatience with lawmakers, saying that they’re not working as hard as he does — or even as hard as his young daughters do to get their homework done.

“They don’t wait until the night before. They’re not pulling all-nighters,” Obama said at his first full-fledged question-and-answer session since March. “Congress can do the same thing. … If you know you’re going to do something, just do it.”

And more of that “leaving the political rhetoric at the door” thing:

“If everyone else is willing to take on their sacred cows and do tough things in order to achieve the goal of real deficit reduction, I think it will be hard for Republicans to stand there and say a tax break for corporate jets is sufficiently important that we’re not willing to come to the table and get a deal done,” Obama said.

It was so partisan, so crass that Mark Halperin called Obama a “dick.”

Evan Thomas had his own religious experience. Thomas’ epiphany saw him convert from referring to Obama as “sort of a god” to a “God D*mn democrat.”

For the first time in a very long time, Thomas got it right.

“Yeah, because it’s happened before – Obama has got to be President of the United States,” Thomas said. “He has to be two things. He has to make a public case of how bad is this, because he is not doing that. He’s not being honest about just how bad this is going to be — no, he was partisan. He was God [bleep] Democrat! He was just, you know – being a party guy. I applaud the energy but it wasn’t getting me anywhere. He has got to rise above that and then in private, in private – he’s got to make a deal.”

Obama said one thing well:

“A lot of people say a lot of things to satisfy their base or to get on cable news,” Obama said. “Hopefully, leaders at a certain point rise to the occasion and do the right thing for the American people. That’s what I expect to happen this time. Call me naive, but my expectation is leaders are going to lead.”

They are going to lead. They are not going to whine. They are not going to be bloody hypocrites. They are not going to play golf and then claim to do nothing but work. They are not going to campaign for re-election and claim not to leave town.

democrats are so full of crap.

UPDATE: Let’s revisit this for a second:

“It’s my hope that everybody’s going to leave their ultimatums at the door, that we’ll all leave our political rhetoric at the door…”

And no sooner had the internet ink on that dried, when

President Barack Obama says the debt ceiling should not “be used as a gun against the heads” of Americans to retain breaks for corporate jet owners or oil and gas companies.

“Gun against the head”

You just can’t make this stuff up. Which is more of why you’re an idiot to believe anything Obama says.

DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education. DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed. Except for liberals being foolish.

35 Responses to “The Democrat’s political rhetoric; so full of crap [Reader Post]”

  1. 26

    Ivan

    @Hedy:

    Bush warned congress but the democrats were in control and when Barney was asked he said that they were in good shape. I am so tired of Bush getting the blame for everything it’s time Obama started taking responsibility for what is going on now.

    What a load of horsecrap is this? Bush sat on his ASS while millions upon millions of illegal aliens flooded into our nation.
    Then Bush does NOTHING while liar loans infect our mortgage industry helping to bring down our economy.

    Here:

    The F.B.I. has been warning for years that mortgage fraud is a significant and growing problem. In the 2006 fiscal year, it documented 35,600 suspicious-activity reports related to mortgage fraud, up from 22,000 the year before and as few as 7,000 in 2003.

    Can you handle the truth? That is from the NYT story on the FBI warning about criminal conduct by people, many illegal aliens, taking loans and lying about their credit.

    Yes, Frank and Dodd are horrible, but please spare me the “Bush and Republicans are great!” bullshit as it only shows you are either ignorant or stupid.

    Which is it?

  2. 27

    Aye

    editor

    @Ivan:

    Yo dumbazz…You claimed that the FBI said that these loans were “a security threat to the US.”

    That’s what I asked for a citation on. The bold part. Of course, you didn’t provide that now did you?

    Care to try again?

  3. 28

    Aye

    editor

    @Ivan:

    Here’s a question I posed to you earlier but, for some reason, you haven’t answered:

    What, precisely, do propose that Bush should have done instead of what he did?

    Also, your claims that “Bush [did] NOTHING while liar loans infect our mortgage industry” is another of your easily disproven, blatant, bold faced lies.

    Exit Question: You correctly state that the GOP controlled both houses of Congress as well as the White House during a portion of GW Bush’s time in office. During which of those years did the GOP have a filibuster proof majority in the Senate?

  4. 29

    Ivan

    Yo dumbazz…You claimed that the FBI said that these loans were “a security threat to the US.”

    That’s what I asked for a citation on. The bold part. Of course, you didn’t provide that now did you?

    Care to try again?

    Nice, more personal attacks. Face it, you didn’t know that the FBI was warning the nation about the Republicans sleeping at the wheel.

    Tisk, tisk. You’re way behind everyone else, Aye.

    ;->

  5. 30

    Ivan

    @Aye:

    What, precisely, do propose that Bush should have done instead of what he did?

    Son, is English your second language? You’ve heard me scream here about Bush DOING NOTHING ABOUT THE BORDER and ENFORCING OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS.

    Fucking illegal aliens getting loans back by the full-faith and credit of the USA. Bullshit.

    If you can’t connect the dots to our economic collapse to free-trade, immigration gone-wild and a break down of the rule of law then you need to get on some meds.

    Duh.

  6. 31

    Aye

    editor

    @Ivan:

    Nice, more personal attacks. Face it, you didn’t know that the FBI was warning the nation about the Republicans sleeping at the wheel.

    Wow! You’re trying to pretend that you’re telepathic now? Able to read people’s minds to find out what they know and what they don’t know? Too bad that isn’t working for you, eh?

    I’ve actually known what the FBI had to say about this since way back when they said it. But your questioning of my knowledge of the matter is nothing more than another irrelevant straw man from you because it doesn’t address my argument.

    What you claimed is that the FBI said that these loans were “a security threat to the US.”

    Now, dumbazz, where is the citation for your claim?

    Oh, you don’t have one? Didn’t think so.

    Thanks for playing though.

  7. 32

    ilovebeeswarzone

    YVAN, so to come back to today, who will close the borders at this time ,and they cannot put the blame on
    BUSH, because they have the power now to act, and no excuse will do,
    It’s his show, and so far , nothing but worse , even murder now, on an officer of the law,
    do they have to wait for a murder to get them moving?

  8. 33

    Aye

    editor

    @Ivan:

    Son, is English your second language? You’ve heard me scream here about Bush DOING NOTHING ABOUT THE BORDER and ENFORCING OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS.

    Fucking illegal aliens getting loans back by the full-faith and credit of the USA. Bullshit.

    So, it’s your contention that illegal immigrants defaulted upon enough loans to cause the mortgage mess? [snicker]

    Is that right? [snicker]

    That’s funny.

    Cite for me any statistical borrower breakdown which supports your contention.

    Oh, by the way, none of those loans were “backed by the full faith and credit of the USA.”

  9. 34

    DrJohn

    author

    @Ivan:

    Well, what do you know? 7,000 cases right when the Republicans take over all the branches of the government (excluding the Judiciary), then three years later, still under Republican domination we have nearly 36,000 cases.

    Ivan

    As has been well established here, democrats incentivized subprime mortgages and now are coming back for even more. And democrats at F&F bought them up. And democrats like Frank protected that fraud.

  10. 35

    DrJohn

    author

    The F.B.I. said it was looking into possible accounting fraud, insider trading or other violations in connection with loans made to borrowers with weak, or subprime, credit.

    We have furnished a truckload of proof that this is all the handiwork of the Clinton/Rubin/Cuomo hydra.

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