Is Obama helping to build a global caliphate? [Reader Post]

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We have been musing on the Obama administration’s handling of the events transpiring in Egypt. Many of us would like to believe that Barack Obama is genuinely incompetent as has been suggested, but what if it’s something else? What if things are going precisely the way Barack Obama wants them to go? This is the basis for an an interesting article by Victor Sharpe over at American Thinker.

My fear is that Obama is not naïve at all, but he instead knows only too well what he is doing, for he is eagerly promoting Islamic power in the world while diminishing the West and Israel, however much innocent blood will flow as a result.

Sharpe believes, as I do, that the Muslim Brotherhood will eventually seize control of Egypt and Egypt will become the next Iran.

Inevitably, sooner or later, the Muslim Brotherhood will take power, usher in a barbaric Islamist power in Egypt that will control the Suez Canal, and show no mercy to its own people or its perceived foes.

Sharpe notes that Lebanon has fallen to Islamists and Jordan is likely next to succumb. Sharpe also sees the hand of George Soros via the International Crisis Group, of which Mohammed ElBaradei is a member.

Upon Mubarak’s departure, it was assumed that Vice President Omar Suleiman would take control, but he has made it known that Mohamed Hussein Tantawi (there’s that middle name again) would be the leader of a new military council. US diplomats have described Tantawi as “aged and change-resistant.” He is also described as being uncomfortable with the US’ focus on fighting terrorism and “resistant to political and economic reform.” And someone not happy with the loss of central power.

Yet if there is change in Egypt, it may not be what the West would like to see.

In July of last year, the University of Maryland commissioned Zogby to poll the people of Egypt. Here are a few of their findings:

* 85% of Egyptians hold an unfavorable attitude toward the U.S.
* 87% of Egyptians have no confidence in the U.S.
* 92% of Egyptians believe the U.S. is one of two nations that is the greatest threat to them (the other nation the Egyptian people hate is Israel)
* 52% of Egyptians hold an unfavorable opinion of American people
* 65% of Egyptians believe that Islamic clergy must play a greater role in the Egyptian political system
* 79% percent of Egyptians believe that it would be positive if Iran is able to acquire nuclear weapons

A Pew Research Center Global Attitudes Project poll conducted last year revealed the conflict between religion and democracy in Egypt and this is the fly in the ointment of freedom.

– 84% favor the death penalty for apostasy
– 90% believe in freedom of religion
– 59% would choose fundamentalists over modernizers
– 82% support stoning for adulterers
– 54% believe suicide bombing can be justified
– 82% have an unfavorable view of the United States (despite all the Obama apologies)

While George Bush actively encouraged democratic efforts in Egypt, Barack Obama cut off funding for those efforts.

“No matter what was said in private, or how forcefully, the public message sent by the Obama administration over the past two years was that democracy and human rights in Egypt was not a top priority,” Kessler writes. “When given the opportunity to use the biggest megaphone in the world–the voice of the president of the United States–the words were whispered, if said at all.”

The poll information is critical. Egyptians may claim to want democracy but the majority would choose fundamentalists to run the government and the vast majority favor killing those who would leave Islam. Some semblance of a democracy might even briefly appear in Egypt within months but ironically the democracy that offers freedom of choice might see the choice of a fundamentalist government and the end of freedom of choice and certainly the end of many human rights. It will be intriguing to see how the Obama administration handles it.

Back to Byron York:

Muslim opinion of Obama, who made outreach to Muslims a top priority and traveled to Cairo in June 2009 to address the Islamic world, has also dropped.

Then again, maybe Obama is trying to get back into their good graces by helping to build a global Islamic world.

DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education. DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed. Except for liberals being foolish.

157 Responses to “Is Obama helping to build a global caliphate? [Reader Post]”

  1. 51

    Blake

    To all of the people who wish that Glenn Beck was wrong, or paranoid, remember Henry Kissinger’s statement, “Just because you are paranoid does not mean noone is after you.”
    Just because the scenario Beck (and others) describe, that of a “Caliphate”, has not come to pass (yet), does not mean that he is wrong in making the connections. And it is not only Barrie who wishes for this, but the others,(leftists, socialists, Marxists, and Anarchists) even though their end games are different, can and will put their differences aside in order to bring down Capitalism, because all of these people, everyone of them, is an abject failure at being a Capitalist, and cannot compete in the world arena without some sort of a “socialist” crutch.
    Personally, I would just as soon turn the whole Middle East into a sea of Glass- beginning the minimization of our problem vis-a-vis the muslim situation.
    That might even solve Ivan’s population problem a bit, no?

  2. 52

    Old Trooper 2

    A little insight from a Guy who is tasked with Situation Analysis and Defense of All Things Necessary to the Survival of the Republic. Things that a whole lot of folks take for granted. It is a good read. Go there for a look.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/02/democratic_oligarchic_or_islam_1.html

    What should have raised alarms in the intelligence community, however, was the recent [secular] pronouncement of the new Supreme Guide of the Muslim Brotherhood, Muhammad Badi, who said:

    Arab and Muslim regimes are betraying their people by failing to confront the Muslim’s real enemies, not only Israel but also the United States. Waging jihad against both of these infidels is a commandment of Allah that cannot be disregarded. Governments have no right to stop their people from fighting the United States. They are disregarding Allah’s commandment to wage jihad for His sake with [their] money and [their] lives, so that Allah’s word will reign supreme” over all non-Muslims.

    All Muslims are required by their religion to fight:

    “They crucially need to understand that the improvement and change that the [Muslim] nation seeks can only be attained through jihad and sacrifice and by raising a jihadi generation that pursues death just as the enemies pursue life.”

    The United States is immoral, doomed to collapse, and “experiencing the beginning of its end and is heading towards its demise.”

    Don’t look for any further posts from me on this or any other subject. Like Dick Winters, at this point all I really wish for is to return to my relatively quiet patch of ground, retirement and to mind my own damn business. I may have ruffled a few feathers here. I am Old School. The one that taught me that You don’t ever have to apologize for having high personal standards and things that You value are worth Your Life if necessary to preserve. I gave the Country the majority of my adult life but in a world with negotiable values it was not enough to make a dent in the Future. I will leave that to others and go back to where I belong. I Served Where I was Sent and can return home with no sense of shame for that. I was no Sunshine Patriot.

    Take Care All and God Bless You
    God Bless America.

  3. 54

    DrJohn

    author

    @keema: Neither is Clapper’s assertion that Muslim Brotherhood being “secular” circumstantial.

    What kind of idiot says something like that? Who hires this kind of idiot?

  4. 55

    CbR

    premium_subscriber, subscriber

    @keema:
    I beg to differ with your

    DrJohn, I believe that would be termed “circumstantial evidence” in a court of law…

    As I did my daily read around I came across this: The Muslim Brotherhood: the enemy in its own words

    The Muslim Brotherhood was founded in Egypt in 1928. Its express purpose was two-fold: (1) to implement shariah worldwide, and (2) to re-establish the global Islamic State (caliphate). We also know how the Brotherhood plans to pull off our destruction. Another MB document, this one undated, is called “Phases of the World Underground Movement Plan.” It describes a five-installment program for achieving the triumph of shariah – together with a status report on the realization of several of the phases’ goals:

    Phase One: Discreet and secret establishment of leadership.

    Phase Two: Phase of gradual appearance on the public scene and exercising and utilizing various public activities. It [the MB] greatly succeeded in implementing this stage. It also succeeded in achieving a great deal of its important goals, such as infiltrating various sectors of the Government.

    Phase Three: Escalation phase, prior to conflict and confrontation with the rulers, through utilizing mass media. Currently in progress.

    Phase Four: Open public confrontation with the Government through exercising the political pressure approach. It is aggressively implementing the above-mentioned approach. Training on the use of weapons domestically and overseas in anticipation of zero-hour. It has noticeable activities in this regard.

    Phase Five: Seizing power to establish their Islamic Nation under which all parties and Islamic groups are united.

    Emphasis Mine

    Circumstantial? …. Obama? Get real.

  5. 57

    CbR

    premium_subscriber, subscriber

    @Old Trooper 2:
    I have valued your insight, as I’m sure many of us here have, to provide me (a common grunt on the ground) a much better action plan with which to attack NOT defend our positions. Leaders, such as yourself, don’t often jump in the fray without first checking to see which way the wind is blowing.

    Stay, don’t concede the defeat these ill guided progressives believe is easily obtained. They are just following their mantra and as Herman Cain said in his CPAC speech “it’s the liberal SIN”.

    S = Shift the subject
    I = Ignore the facts
    N = Name call

    Help guide us in that effort to return our great country to the stature it is tumbling from.

  6. 58

    DrJohn

    author

    @Ivan:

    While is is admirable that she can attend the USAF Academy, she, like so many other western women, has opted to go the “professional” route and not engage in her primary responsibility which is to have children.

    I don’t think you need say anything more than this, Ivan. The above may be your interpretation of a woman’s “responsibility” but I suspect you’ll be in a minority. Your opinion sounds downright misogynist- Islamic fundamentalist, in fact.

  7. 59

    DrJohn

    author

    Andy McCarthy

    This is the quandary. If you are a Muslim, from exactly what part of the Brotherhood’s motto would you dissent? Allah obviously is your objective. Mohammed is regarded by your scriptures as the perfect human model to be emulated. Are you going to dissent from sharia, the law of Islam taken straight from the Koran and authoritative accounts of the Prophet’s words and deeds? Or from the imperative of jihad, a divine injunction the scriptures say Allah has elevated over all others?

    Read it all

  8. 60

    Gerry

    Dr. John did his research! The numbers he posted are absolutely correct. 95% of Muslims are of the opinion that if one leaves the faith of Islam they are entitled to die! etc.etc. As for BHO – I sadly agree, he is extremely pro-Muslim!

    This self proclaimed “Jakarta Street kid” has stated “”The Arabic Call to Prayer is the most beautiful sound on Earth”. His constant praise of Muslim undertakings as well as his acceptance of his mentor screaming “God damn America” is proof enough!

  9. 61

    Nan G

    @DrJohn:

    DrJohn, those questions you linked are a great start:

    If you are a Muslim, from exactly what part of the Brotherhood’s motto would you dissent?

    Allah obviously is your objective. Mohammed is regarded by your scriptures as the perfect human model to be emulated.

    Are you going to dissent from sharia, the law of Islam taken straight from the Koran and authoritative accounts of the Prophet’s words and deeds?
    Or from the imperative of jihad, a divine injunction the scriptures say Allah has elevated over all others?

    Here are a few others:

    Do you condone or condemn the Palestinians, Chechens, and Kashmiris who give up their lives to kill enemy civilians?

    Should Muslim women have equal rights with men (for example, in inheritance shares or court testimony)?

    Should non-Muslims enjoy completely equal civil rights with Muslims?

    May Muslims convert to other religions?

    May Muslim women marry non-Muslim men?

    Do you accept the laws of a majority non-Muslim government and unreservedly pledge allegiance to that government?

    Should the state impose religious observance, such as banning food service during Ramadan?

    When Islamic customs conflict with secular laws (e.g., covering the face for drivers’ license pictures), which should give way?

    Are Sufis and Shi’ites fully legitimate Muslims?

    Do you see Muslims who disagree with you as having fallen into unbelief?

    Is takfir (condemning fellow Muslims with whom one has disagreements as unbelievers) an acceptable practice?

    Do you accept the legitimacy of scholarly inquiry into the origins of Islam?

    Do you agree that institutions accused of funding terrorism should be shut down, or do you see this a symptom of bias?
    ____________________________________________________________

    I have watched as CAIR’s spokesman hemmed and hawed rather than answer this one:
    Will you condemn by name as terrorist groups such organizations as Abu Sayyaf, Al-Gama’a al-Islamiyya, Groupe Islamique Armée, Hamas, Harakat ul-Mujahidin, Hizbullah, Islamic Jihad, Jaish-e-Mohammed, Lashkar-e-Tayyiba, and al-Qaida?
    We got a lot of dissembling, but never got the straight answer, yes or no.

  10. 62

    Skookum

    author

    OT it was with sadness that I read your last post. I can only speak for myself, but I doubt if my fellow writers and those who write constructive commentary are too far afield in their feelings. Your honor, integrity, experience, intelligence, and insight served a very real service for many of us as we confront the the threat of the loss of the country we love. Many of us contemplate our own failures of the past and wish we could have been more like Old Trooper.

    You stood as a beacon and like the expert sailor who trims the sail and keeps a knowing hand on the rudder to “thread the eye of the needle” and get the most of wind, sail, and current; you have performed that job so well for many of us here at FA.

    Trust that you will be sorely missed and remembered for as long as many of us continue to draw breath and keep lucid faculties. I can only offer you a sincere Thank You for four decades of service and a sharp salute from a lowly grunt. May G-d watch over you and yours and may Jana fly above the eagles with the same honor and courage of her father.

  11. 63

    Al Cooper

    OT2

    Thank you for your posts.
    I quit too, about two years ago, and every now and then get back into posting.
    Just can not help it when I get upset.
    I am retired Air Force and it really bothers me when I see my efforts wasted.
    The best to you sir.

  12. 64

    Zac

    I wish Old Trooper and his daughter the best. He has given me some excellent advice & I aspire to do the things he has done to serve his country.

    “I better tell my just-turned 18 y/o daughter to forget about college and that teaching career, and go get pregnant, so western civilization won’t collapse.”

    Patvan: Excellent summery of that whole theory sir. I thought it was popular to tell people to quit having babies because soon we would be overpopulated and not have enough “resources”. Ether way I don’t have enough spare brain cells to allocate to this theory.

    This is an important article. Perhaps there is no definite answer at time for us who want to see every possible angle. I doubt arabic is the language of the future, english is the universal language. Obama is only as good as his magical telaprompter. I think the telaprompter may be calling the shots.

  13. 66

    Ivan

    Yep, feminism and all its boundless glory is alive and well here at Flopping Aces! Better yet, let’s open up basic infantry squads to the ladies and let them get torn to bits in the next war more so than they are now!

    That’s okay, when the Muslims take over, like they are doing in Europe, what will you say then? What will you say?

  14. 68

    Aye

    editor

    @Ivan:

    I searched through your two most recent posts and didn’t find answers to the questions that I posed to you:

    1) How many children have you fathered?

    2) Did the woman you married go the “professional” route, working while getting an education then, later, establishing herself as an educated professional in her field of expertise, or did you keep her home uneducated, barefoot, pregnant, and busy changing diapers?

    3) If a woman’s “primary responsibility” is bearing, birthing, and rearing children, then where do the fathers of those children fit in? Are men merely sperm donors who, after a bit of physical intimacy and orgasm, are then free to head back to California while the little woman stays in New Mexico to raise the brood?

  15. 69

    MataHarley

    premium_subscriber

    Wow… quite the OT (off topic) tangents, and OT2 commentary, piled on to the original post.

    First that needs to be said is that Ivan is a true Neanderthal. Such commentary, rooted in the knock-’em-over-the-head-and-drag-’em-into-the-cave mentality, begs the observation that our nation was truly damaged when they gave guys like Ivan the right to vote. LOL

    Personally, I love a man who’s got the stuff who could pull that Neanderthal ‘tude off, and drag me into the cave. Strong men are indeed hard to find. Ivan is an example of a man to be shunned by women everywhere…. even those who choose families as their career. However before a guy can drag this woman into a cave, he’d better prove he’s more adept at taking care of me, and making wise decisions, than I am for myself.

    I’ve often rued the changes over time when American women were put on pedestals, and in a sense, “superior” to men by them honoring her. Yes, the feminist movement demanded “equality”, and our superiority was lowered. But then, women were honored because of their choices to be the heart of the family. When economic times changed, households started needing two incomes to survive. So some of the career options for women, who preferred to stay home to raise the family, was no longer a financial reality.

    This reality blows ear to ear, non stop, thru the empty vessel that constitutes Ivan’s cranium, of course.

    Instead, in Ivan’s distorted world, women should not have that choice, but should be a slave to baby making. A slave cannot be put on the pedestal because the choice to be exalted was stripped away. This explains why Ivan’s attitude is less like Sparta, as he purports, and more like OTs’ comparison to Nazi control.

    But if you wish societal changes to again encourage women to be homemakers as their first career, my suggestion is you put a muzzle on pretend he-men like Ivan. Nothing will drive a woman to career single status for eternity than meeting a guy like Ivan.

    I’m entertaining the vision of a face to face of Ivan and Jana… would he even have the balls to broach such commentary with such a formidable young woman. Frankly, my money’s on Jana. Ivan’s already pretty neutered for all things testosterone. Should be a slam/dunk for one of our nation’s finest.

    I’m with OT, which has some agreement with Ivan’s narrow focus about women in combat. As David Hackworth used to say, women in the service can free a soldier to fight. I agree that fighter/air combat skills don’t become gender specific. Nor is intel tasks. Yet at some points, even the intel or fighter pilot may find themselves in the trenches in a moment in time. But I don’t see the military, recruiting women to be put into the trenches as front line fighting forces.

    All in all, I’d say that whether women are to be in the front lines of battle is a decision that should be made within the military and those that serve. This, of course, leaves out giving any weight to the armchair eunuchs like Ivan. This country does allow him freedom of speech… but it becomes ironic that privilege is preserved in part by many women who are dodging bullets for his sorry ass.

    ~~~

    Now, loss of OT2’s voice at FA would be a sad day indeed. Just can’t imagine not having him here. Tho I sure understand that retreat to your own patch, and just be left alone bit. But then, I don’t see our OT2 as doing that. His passion runs too great, and his love for our country – and it’s future for his daughter and any possible future grandchildren – would get the better of him if he saw it being dismantled before him. He did not spend a life of career service to watch it swirl down the toilet bowl while he still takes a breath.

    I, along with so many others, would hope to see Old Trooper’s future comments… whenever he feels like visiting.

    ~~~

    To the original post material, if it’s a vote, count mine on the “incompetent” side. Obama’s one consistency is he’s been on the wrong side of three “pro democracy” movements. First Iran and the election, then Honduras, and now Egypt. But I don’t think that’s for a nefarious caliphate agenda, but rather part of the complete inadequacy of this POTUS and his diplomatic and intel team.

    It’s a fine line to want a Muslim “democracy” in the ME countries because yes, some will vote for a fundamentalist nation which will ultimately destroy life for it’s denizens. But many of them don’t know that, just as many Americans didn’t what what they were voting for when pulling the level for Obama. However I’d wager if the poll questions were restructured to ask Muslims if they wanted their country to be run like Afghanistan, they would say no.

    Musharraf and Mubarak had a difficult task… to buck the “despot” and “dictator” handles that the west wants to apply, and yet still make it impossible for radicals to infiltrate and consume their government. To accomplish the latter… i.e. outlawing MB from elections, limiting what powers they could enjoy when running as independents… makes them despots in western view.

    I see it as the only way to control the radical elements among them. I was sorry to see Musharraf go, and just as sorry to see Mubarak go…. from the standpoint as an American valuing them as an ally.

    I find it amazing that it’s preferable to immediately turn Egypt into a police state. Even more amazing that government workers there are now demanding a pay raise. If there is no Parliament, and no government… and the Constitution was junked the moment they changed succession power… what need is there for a government worker at all? All of the current laws of the land were made by a body politic they shunned, and threw out the window. So of what value are those “laws’?

    None… what laws will be enforced and honored will be the choice of the military. Is that what the supposed “pro democracy” movement was after? A police state and mass confusion on what laws should be enforced, and what shouldn’t? If their Constitution is expendable, why is any law created by this heinous and defunct parliament any more valid?

    I believe the MB hoped to create the vacuum of opportunity. I think the few that were into a change of governance will find that what they hoped for is not what they will get. All we can do is watch. This POTUS has ostracized us from any potential influence or involvement in Egypt with his choices, and actions, since taking office.

    So now it’s up to the Egyptians to fight their own battles. For now the military says it will honor treaties, including those with Israel. Whether that remains true after they build a new government and Parliament of elected officials is anyone’s guess.

    But thanks to deplorable judgment by this bozo in the WH, the US and Israel can only sit back and wait to see what transpires… and batten down for the worst.

  16. 70

    Hard Right

    I see what obama did in Honduras to be more sinister than mere incompetance. They knew what was going on and why, yet they tried to undermine efforts to adhere to their Constitution.
    Short of wanting Honduras to go far left, I cannot see any other reason why.

  17. 71

    Nan G

    @Hard Right:

    The internal inconsistencies Obama must carry in his head are staggering.
    It is easier to simply believe him when he said he could sit in front of Rev. Wright spewing racist hate for 20 years while never even noticing.
    Maybe Obama just thinks about basketball all of the time.
    Anyway, key to Obama’s butting into the Honduras situation was he false statement that ”it was a military coup.”
    BUT, in Egypt we really did see a military coup!
    And Obama is ALL FOR IT!
    Does he know whether the military will really allow elections in six months?
    No, of course not.
    Only time will tell.
    But there was NO legal right for the Egyptian military to do what it did!
    With the Honduras situation, the supreme court ordered everything that took place.
    (Remember, then-president Zelaya was working with Fidel Castro to ignore Honduras’ Constitution and rule as a dictator. Obama tried to impose Castro’s plan by cutting off aid to poor Honduras unless it complied!)

  18. 72

    MataHarley

    premium_subscriber

    @Hard Right, I’d say it was sinister, if you classify stupidity as sinister. Neither Obama, or his SOS, really delved into the Constitutional realities of exiling a wannabe despot. They just viewed it, erroneously, as looking like a military that employed militant revolution by throwing the bum out.

    You say that short of wanting Honduras to go left, you don’t see another reason? Again, I have to suggest that it’s pure stupidity and ignorance by one who isn’t qualified to run this country, let alone make judgments on another country’s events.

    This admin tends to want to side with media perception instead of political realities that are unpopular. i.e., if the media portrays revolting Egyptians as “pro democracy”, the provide the lip service to match that… even when it means kicking an ally in the butt.

    If the perception in Honduras is that it’s a “military coup”, a term used by Hillary and Obama themselves, then they must appear to be against “military coups”…. except in Egypt, I guess. LOL

    In Iran, they gave all the right lip service to the protestors of the election… but nothing more than lip service. That is their largest downfall there. The “just words” were almost correct, but inadequate in action backing up the “just words”…. because this administration is incompetent.

    Personally I think many of you give Obama too much credit when you think he’s capable of masterminding all you suggest. The guy never makes decisions for himself, and is just the spokesperson of those he surrounds himself with. Others ran his campaigns, groomed him, created the image, and others write his words.

    This guy can’t even see the campaign road right before him without advice. Yet you think he’s capable of strategy to install a caliphate?

    Nope.. he’s like many politicians these days. Simply just the mouthpiece front man, groomed by those around him to achieve or keep power. He’s not capable of planning a dinner menu for the family, let along strategizing an Islamic takeover of the world.

    But I’m equally sure he appreciates the vote of confidence from you all about his abilities to redefine the world as we know it.

  19. 73

    MataHarley

    premium_subscriber

    @Nan G: Anyway, key to Obama’s butting into the Honduras situation was he false statement that ”it was a military coup.”
    BUT, in Egypt we really did see a military coup!
    And Obama is ALL FOR IT!

    We are, sorta, on the same page on this, Nan G.

    I was typing the same thing in my comment #71 above about Honduras and the “military coup” bit. However Obama wasn’t involved or supporting of a military coup in Egypt. That was actually decided by Mubarak, the VP and the military heads of state. Totally beyond Obama’s scope.

    And yes, the succession power to the military, instead of the veep or speaker of parliament, already rendered their Constitution usurped. So the formal trashing of it days later was just for show. Fact is, Mubarak and his veep were part of Egypt becoming a police state. Therefore Obama cannot object when it was the choice of the exiting head of state.

    As you say, the internal inconsistencies of Obama are staggering. Yet on the other hand, most of you seem to believe this is a brillant person, capable of masterminding plots to destroy the US, and turn the world into an Islamic caliphate.

    He’s either blessed with a brilliance you all prefer to ignore when you suggest he’s doing that… or you fail to recognize he’s an incompetent idiot, surrounded by idiots who tell him what to do and what to say.

    Count me in the category of the latter. This guy couldn’t strategize his way out of a card game of “Fish” with a 2nd grader without the help of a huge staff of advisors.

  20. 74

    Nan G

    @MataHarley:

    Here I disagree with you:

    Yet on the other hand, most of you seem to believe this is a brillant person, capable of masterminding plots to destroy the US, and turn the world into an Islamic caliphate.

    I don’t think it takes ”brilliance,” on Obama’s part.

    I think it takes a mindset that Obama has as leaning toward Obama’s most fervent supporters, Wright, Ayres and Soros.
    I think the falling apart of the world will happen, even without Obama, if the USA does not actively work against it.
    And Obama is NOT often acting against it at all.
    He, like the Saudi’s when they order 200 lashes for a 75-year-old widow, can be shamed into doing the right thing, sometimes.
    But it is an uphill battle.

  21. 75

    MataHarley

    premium_subscriber

    Nan G, even in your own “I don’t think it takes brilliance” argument, you give him undue credit. Ideology may be a part of Obama, however implementing that ideology in some sort of master plan… globally or domestically… would indeed take a brilliance this POTUS does not possess.

    It really is as simple as Obama being a manipulated simpleton, who surrounded himself with other simpletons. When you put idiots in charge, you generally end up with chaos. Planned? Not usually likely. Just part and parcel of what happens when you put inexperienced people in charge.

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