Is Obama helping to build a global caliphate? [Reader Post]

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We have been musing on the Obama administration’s handling of the events transpiring in Egypt. Many of us would like to believe that Barack Obama is genuinely incompetent as has been suggested, but what if it’s something else? What if things are going precisely the way Barack Obama wants them to go? This is the basis for an an interesting article by Victor Sharpe over at American Thinker.

My fear is that Obama is not naïve at all, but he instead knows only too well what he is doing, for he is eagerly promoting Islamic power in the world while diminishing the West and Israel, however much innocent blood will flow as a result.

Sharpe believes, as I do, that the Muslim Brotherhood will eventually seize control of Egypt and Egypt will become the next Iran.

Inevitably, sooner or later, the Muslim Brotherhood will take power, usher in a barbaric Islamist power in Egypt that will control the Suez Canal, and show no mercy to its own people or its perceived foes.

Sharpe notes that Lebanon has fallen to Islamists and Jordan is likely next to succumb. Sharpe also sees the hand of George Soros via the International Crisis Group, of which Mohammed ElBaradei is a member.

Upon Mubarak’s departure, it was assumed that Vice President Omar Suleiman would take control, but he has made it known that Mohamed Hussein Tantawi (there’s that middle name again) would be the leader of a new military council. US diplomats have described Tantawi as “aged and change-resistant.” He is also described as being uncomfortable with the US’ focus on fighting terrorism and “resistant to political and economic reform.” And someone not happy with the loss of central power.

Yet if there is change in Egypt, it may not be what the West would like to see.

In July of last year, the University of Maryland commissioned Zogby to poll the people of Egypt. Here are a few of their findings:

* 85% of Egyptians hold an unfavorable attitude toward the U.S.
* 87% of Egyptians have no confidence in the U.S.
* 92% of Egyptians believe the U.S. is one of two nations that is the greatest threat to them (the other nation the Egyptian people hate is Israel)
* 52% of Egyptians hold an unfavorable opinion of American people
* 65% of Egyptians believe that Islamic clergy must play a greater role in the Egyptian political system
* 79% percent of Egyptians believe that it would be positive if Iran is able to acquire nuclear weapons

A Pew Research Center Global Attitudes Project poll conducted last year revealed the conflict between religion and democracy in Egypt and this is the fly in the ointment of freedom.

– 84% favor the death penalty for apostasy
– 90% believe in freedom of religion
– 59% would choose fundamentalists over modernizers
– 82% support stoning for adulterers
– 54% believe suicide bombing can be justified
– 82% have an unfavorable view of the United States (despite all the Obama apologies)

While George Bush actively encouraged democratic efforts in Egypt, Barack Obama cut off funding for those efforts.

“No matter what was said in private, or how forcefully, the public message sent by the Obama administration over the past two years was that democracy and human rights in Egypt was not a top priority,” Kessler writes. “When given the opportunity to use the biggest megaphone in the world–the voice of the president of the United States–the words were whispered, if said at all.”

The poll information is critical. Egyptians may claim to want democracy but the majority would choose fundamentalists to run the government and the vast majority favor killing those who would leave Islam. Some semblance of a democracy might even briefly appear in Egypt within months but ironically the democracy that offers freedom of choice might see the choice of a fundamentalist government and the end of freedom of choice and certainly the end of many human rights. It will be intriguing to see how the Obama administration handles it.

Back to Byron York:

Muslim opinion of Obama, who made outreach to Muslims a top priority and traveled to Cairo in June 2009 to address the Islamic world, has also dropped.

Then again, maybe Obama is trying to get back into their good graces by helping to build a global Islamic world.

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I would hope OT2 can and will step back, take a deep breath, and when he is ready to comment, continue- but as someone who has blogged on other sites, I also know too well the mosquito-like effect of those who have half- formed ideas, and then begin to just rant when you destroy their arguments.
These are people on the left (and, to a lesser extent, the right) who are dogmatic about what they have heard, but have done precious little research on their own.
I know- it wears you down- and that IS their goal, to get you to throw up your hands and quit. It is seductive to begin to think of a life beyond debate, especially against the unarmed (it’s like ramming your face against a brick wall), but if you do cease the fight, then the idiots win.
Perhaps OT2 should read William Barret Travis’ letter about the seige of the Alamo, and his plea for reinforcements-
WBT had no reverse gear, and I am sure OT2 has none either- he just needs to take a deep breath.

Blake , hi, you have good argument for OT to come back and all want him to come back also, his point ov view is always right on, and nobody can argue with it, the only ones are the same as usual,
to disrupt is their goal, they will pick on the group and individual person to create a confrontation without having facts. thank you

Ivan’s spine appears to have gone missing.

If anyone happens to stumble across it, please speak up.

How is that germane to the thread topic? I get chastised for being “off-topic” from time to time, yet you can go on and on about things not related to the thread.

@Ivan:

Oh looky looky what scurried out….

How is that germane to the thread topic? I get chastised for being “off-topic” from time to time, yet you can go on and on about things not related to the thread.

Surely you’re not gonna whine about non-germane discussions when you, sir, derailed the topic beginning way back in post #1 are you?

Surely not.

In your subsequent scribblings you posed a variety of non-topic questions to others who are commenting here and, since turnabout is fair play, I composed a series of questions for you.

Here they are (for the third time):

1) How many children have you fathered?

2) Did the woman you married go the “professional” route, working while getting an education then, later, establishing herself as an educated professional in her field of expertise, or did you keep her home uneducated, barefoot, pregnant, and busy changing diapers?

3) If a woman’s “primary responsibility” is bearing, birthing, and rearing children, then where do the fathers of those children fit in? Are men merely sperm donors who, after a bit of physical intimacy and orgasm, are then free to head back to California while the little woman stays in New Mexico to raise the brood?

Post #1 WAS on-topic.

Post #109 is not on-topic.

How are these questions germane to the discussion?

Geez. I leave for a day, and all hell brakes loose.

Hey gang! Whatcha think of this lil’ piece of punditry?

http://pundita.blogspot.com/2011/02/now-that-gamalists-have-been-toppled.html

(Positing that it was a coup against Mubarak’s son.)

@Ivan:

Much as you may wish to weasel and squirm about, the original topic was the possibility of a “global caliphate”. That ties into women and western values how exactly?

Oh, that’s right…it doesn’t… because the “caliphate” is not a western idea now is it?

The larger point here, however, is that your subsequent posts on this thread have been far, far removed from the original topic so your attempts to use the “that’s off topic” excuse as a way to escape a discomfiting situation are, quite frankly, weak and weaselly.

Now, yet again, here are the questions:

1) How many children have you fathered?

2) Did the woman you married go the “professional” route, working while getting an education then, later, establishing herself as an educated professional in her field of expertise, or did you keep her home uneducated, barefoot, pregnant, and busy changing diapers?

3) If a woman’s “primary responsibility” is bearing, birthing, and rearing children, then where do the fathers of those children fit in? Are men merely sperm donors who, after a bit of physical intimacy and orgasm, are then free to head back to California while the little woman stays in New Mexico to raise the brood?

You’re the one who chose to express your sexist misogynist 1600’s viewpoint of women here on this thread.

Apparently you had no problem doing that even though they are clearly unrelated to the caliphate topic.

Why so hesitant to answer the questions now regarding your views?

Why so hesitant to speak up and express your manly superiority regarding the little woman at home raising your brood?

Why don’t you speak up and tell us how you keep that Ph. D. educated historian, writer, small business owner, educator “professional” wife of yours in line with your idea of “western values” and a woman’s traditional role and “primary responsibility.”

You had no problems casting stones at the wives or daughters of others here, yet you wont’ stand your ground and speak your mind when called upon to defend your views.

Why is that?

Yeah…we both know why.

I’m not hesitant, but you have failed to answer the salient question: What does it matter?

Answer me this: Do you question my conservative bona fides? Do you suspect, and have proof I’m a liberal troll?

Or has your internet stalking session on google revealed me to be a conservative?

And why the stalking? Do you hate your fellow conservatives?

And when you ask how many children I have had, do you mean me or my wife?

Let’s face it, I’ve done more for the conservative movement in this nation than all your silly posts here on FA.

Aye: Have you seen her on youtube?

Isn’t she smoking hot?

;->

Ya might be a conservative, but that has little to do with being a dick.

-Psst. Yer bein a dick.

@Ivan:

I’m not hesitant, but you have failed to answer the salient question: What does it matter?

What made the topic salient when you asked related, and remarkably similar, questions of others here?

And, of course, if you weren’t hesitant you would have responded to them the first time I posted them rather than engaging in evasion and avoidance.

Answer me this: Do you question my conservative bona fides? Do you suspect, and have proof I’m a liberal troll?

Or has your internet stalking session on google revealed me to be a conservative?

Nah, your postings right here on this site have revealed you to be a lying, egocentric, hypocritical, bigoted, racist, sexist, homophobic, misogynistic pontificating pustule.

I didn’t need Google or any other search engine to learn that about you.

And why the stalking? Do you hate your fellow conservatives?

Nah, you’re not one my fellow conservatives. I have nothing, whatsoever, at all in common with someone who espouses such views of his fellow human beings, and women specifically.

And when you ask how many children I have had, do you mean me or my wife?

You should re-read the question. More slowly this time.

Let’s face it, I’ve done more for the conservative movement in this nation than all your silly posts here on FA.

Yeah, right.

In reality what you’ve done you sad, silly, self-absorbed little man is provide a perfect, living, breathing example of all of the things that people in the conservative movement should avoid being.

Nah, your postings right here on this site have revealed you to be a lying, egocentric, hypocritical, bigoted, racist, sexist, homophobic, misogynistic pontificating pustule.

You forgot “dick”.

-just sayin.

Patvann, hi, nice of you to come with weapons, to help on the cleanup
bye

@Ivan: Let’s face it, I’ve done more for the conservative movement in this nation than all your silly posts here on FA.

Well now, ain’t that an interesting tidbit to throw in. Ya know, Ivan, I was really surprised to see your [lack of] tact and tack on this thread. It’s not like you’re new here, but who only knew you were the back asswards neaderthal.

Oh wait.. we should have had a heads up when you said this:

We need a populist Republican Party! A party who cares about the US worker and our American culture.

Right…. with attitudes like that, you’ve done more to *sink* the conservative movement. Do us all a favor… don’t help.

As far as you “doing more”… you’d better put your money where your mouth is. Just what have you “done”? Between your dissertations and your mental outlook on individual freedoms, carefully separated by gender, your very existence and accomplishments look pretty lackluster to me.

I think it’s quite safe to say, with 100% accuracy, that OT2’s natural gastric emissions have contributed more value to the conservative movement, and this country, than your entire 49-50 years of breathing on this planet.

I do feel a great deal of insecurity emanating from you guys!

Mata: Why are you so vituperative? Your comments are are so vile and sexually charged! What is it with you and the need to go into the gutter?

Aye: Good luck with your conservative “jihad” posting here at FA! I’m sure you must feel very important to the conservative movement doing all this posting. I do enjoy your posts.

;->

Let’s face it, some people are in the inside looking at all the people on the outside looking in.

I’ll tell Gov. Martinez you say,”hello.”

IVAN, you’r getting your small change for what you have done, this only pennys,
we’r not finish yet with you

Perhaps we could somehow treat Governor Martinez to this thread, bet she’d get a real kick out of it. You think there might be someone out there somewhere in the www that just might be as close to her as Ivan?

Being a first termer, she should really be careful with who she associates with. Ew, I can see the frontpage now:

“Misogynist Meanders Through the Martinez Mansion”

She would love it! Just love it!

@Patvann:

You forgot “dick”.

-just sayin.

Missed you, man!

I would feel sorry for Ivan, but#1, I really am not well acquainted with Gov. Martinez- but if she has anyone with his attitude near her she is in trouble, and #2, I firmly believe that once you are an adult, anything you say or do is yours and yours alone to either your credit or sorrow.
In Ivan’s case, well we all have seen his stripes anad smelled his odor- not much more to add.

Small people, on the outside, looking in.

I really feel sorry for you guys.

@Ivan:

I really feel sorry for you guys.

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Little known fact:

Chuck Norris fears OT2′s natural gastric emissions.

Perhaps if someone cared enough to express Ivan’s anal glands, he might not be as grouchy-

It’s like every time I click on this thread “Ivan The Terrible” is here. I’m just supprised its still growing.

Patvann, you rescue my unforgetable mistake, I am very thankfull,
CHUCK NORRIS should come at FA to get some of our nice comments,
I would praise his acting talent and fearless attitude of the patriot HE certainly is,
like you and your SON

yvan, don’t you see that meter is frozen, can’t work below zero. and you’r the only small person looking in; the others looking in are bigger than you

Notice that Obama has just about completely abandoned Israel? Kinda fits.

Aye…that’s a great GIF!!!

Keep posting bro, the cause needs you!

The removal of Christian principles will result in an Islamic take over.

@Ivan: Define conservative.

Pat Buchanan.

@Old Trooper 2: I have to add that the military has its share of the blame for the disgrace of America. Instead of defending the Constitution and People of the United States they are playing the part of hired mercenaries sent to and fro to destroy and kill whatever country and/or people who’ve been designated for destruction even though the orders they receive are illegal and oppose the Constitution. Following orders regardless of their legality or the lack of authority behind the orders isn’t something to be celebrated, honored, or respected, but the American people are necessarily conditioned to show a bizarre reverence for the military in this age of empire and conquest. “I may not agree with the war, but I’ll support the troops.” It’s like the lord’s prayer in modern america.

“We follow orders or people die.” And if orders aren’t followed there’s always a courts martial! If the orders the military receives are in fact illegal and oppose the constitution perhaps its time to rid the country of the incompetent clown who’s issuing those orders!

@Billy Singleton: There is always a REMF who can blame the only organization that can not fight back because of the oath they took. BS is a good description of you and your comments. It is not the military member’s responsibility to determine if the orders are against the constitution. If you had any knowledge of US government, you would know that it is the judicial branch of government who makes that decision. They have never determined that our military actions are illegal. If you want your posts to be respected here, know what you are discussing.

Patvann, I came back to check this POST again, 31 of MARCH 2011, and It’s snowing again,
spring will fix that winter for good soon,
I always wanted to tell you that I love your eagle in front of the FLAG, It’s OUTSTANDING
bye

OLD TROOPER 2, hi, I sure hope for your returning home,
MAY GOD BLESS YOU TOO, we are missing you, ON THIS DAY
31 st of MARCH, 2011

The current ummah khilafa caliphate leader which is khameini in iran asks the ummah why they have allowed westerners to keep them divided? obama would order that to keep it under wraps…..the ummah togetherness. if he was going to lead it he would have it be a secret to the world and especially the west. he would have had to already had an agreement of staying secret until the time is ready with the jihadis and hezbollah nations and turkey which in between that time he would in earnest show that he is all in on his end of the deal like 12 seconds into his first term when he said “I love iran, I love the people of iran….etc. etc”, he claimed america to no longer be a christian nation but a growing muslim nation with 9 million muslims, europe has 52 million and growing and many other large nations the same thing throughout the world! obama is more than sayed cutb ever could be to the ummah and he was everything to them, even anwar sadat who wanted peace with israel and nothing more than to be friends with the west was disowned when he let everyone know that he did not support cutb. assad turned over moamar ghadafi’s location to sarkozy and obama, since then the whole syrian war has had a strange stalemating way to it for it being an all out civil war that obama the leader of america is using america’s enemies to fight for him against other american enemies which does mean that the whole thing is a farce that there is no real syrian war…just a diversion to arm al qaeda through the u.n. american troops need to be deployed to our southern border with mexico what with the growing presence of hezbollah and al qaeda there but do you think the ummah khilafa caliphate leader is at all interested to ruin his own plans? Call on the Lord Yeshua The Messiah who will return to this earth very soon, have faith in him! The Father so loved this whole world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever would believe in him would not perish but have everlasting life.

jonathan
thank you that is very interesting to know and very possible
to have being done in secret from the first day they put him in office,
with their money who bought many BLACK AMERICANS TO JUMP IN THE TASK
TO HAVE HIM ELECTED, AND NOW HAVE HIM REELECTED USING ALL THEIR TOOLS
AS WE HAVE CLEARLY NOTICE,
AND AS THE DAYS PASS THE MORE OF UNWANTED PEOPLE ARE COMING UNDER THE NAME OF
THE CITIZENS OF MEXICO. BUT WE KNOW THEY COME FROM UNWANTED COUNTIES WHOM OUR WARRIORS ARE UNDER THE ORDER OF OBAMA TO KILL BY PURSUING TWO OPPOSED AGENDAS,
TO HOLD THAT SECRET BOND HE HAS WITH THE MUSLIMS COUNTRIES,
WHERE HE SEND THE MONEY WHICH BELONG TO THE AMERICANS TO HELP THEM CLOSE THE CRESCENT INTO A CIRCLE HE HOLD ON HIS LOGO ALONG THE LINES WE HAVE SEEN ON THE WALL OF BENGHASI MADE BY THE AMBASSADOR WITH HIS BLOODY FINGERS, AS THEY DRAGGED HIM OUT LIKE A CRIMINAL
SHOWING HIM TO THE CROWD OF WILD ANIMALS.

I’m just noticing the dates of this POST, AND IT FITS THE TODAY RECENTS DRAMATIC EVENTS
OF HAVING 4 AMERICANS MURDERED IN THE BENGHASI LOCATION BY TERRORISTS,
YES FROM 2011, IT GOT EVEN WORSE UNDER THIS GOVERNMENT,
AND HE STILL SEND MONEY AND ASSETS BY BILLIONS
TO BUY HIS FRIENDSHIP WITH THOSE HATERS, UNDER THE NAME OF DEMOCRACY BUILDING, BUT REFUSE TO SPEND ON SECURITY FOR AN AMBASSADOR REQUIRING HELP IN MANY DEMANDS IGNORED,
where the murdurous result occur on the AMBASSADOR and the SEALS WHO FOUGHT AGAINST A NUMBER OF TERRORISTS
WHERE THE ADVANTAGE WAS ON THE ENEMIES,
THEY HAD ASK FOR HELP AND HOPE TILL THE END FOR IT TO COME,
BECAUSE AMERICA IS KNOWNNO , HAS BEEN KNOWN TO GIVE HELP TO HIS SONS AND DAUGHTERS ASKING FOR IT ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD,
THIS WAS A BROKEN RULE BY OBAMA, AND HILLARY,
SHE SAID WHAT DOES IT MATTER,

WHERE ARE YOU ALL? today 2013 JANUARY,28th,
WHY DID YOU STOP VISITING HERE?
IS THERE A WAY TO KNOW THE TRUTH?
ARE YOU ALIVE AND WELL?
OR DID YOU LEFT FOR THE STARS IN HEAVEN?
WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW, BECAUSE WE ARE A PART OF YOUR LIFE
AND WE CARE FOR WHAT HAPPEN TO YOU ,
WHERE ARE YOU? MY FRIENDS,
MATA, MISSY, OLDTROOPER2, PATTVAN, ZAC, JAINPHX, AL COOPER, JOHN COOPER, DSCOTT,
YVAN THE TERRIBLE, AND THE OTHER MISSING,
YOU JUST HAVE TO COMMENT ON TODAY 2013 TIME TO LET US KNOW,

I am still here Bees and in good health.
I check the site daily. I started several posts and did not finish any of them.
Last year was not good and ended badly for me.
My wife had Alzheimer’s and I had been taking care of her for years. She went downhill fast starting spring of 2012. She died November 12, 2012, Veteran’s day. She was 68 years old. Her mother had a stroke on Thanksgiving and died six days later. She was 93 years old.
I am OK now.
Thank you for considering me “family”.

Al Cooper
sorry for what you went through, it always get us back
for a time needed to heal, yes for sure,
we like your POST, YOU HAVE GOOD COMMENTS ON IT,
COME BACK AND FINISH THE ONES YOU STARTED, BECAUSE IT SEEMS THAT THEY ARE NEVER GETTING OUT OF REALITY OF TODAY, EVEN YEARS BEFORE, I find that with surprise when I happen to get an older POST, ON AND ON.
TIME PAST BUT THE LIVES STRUGGLES REMAIN THE SAME, SPECIALLY IN THE LAST 4 YEARS,
AMERICA IS ON A STAND STILL WAITING FOR BETTER DAYS WHICH WILL COME AFTER
WHAT THEY ARE BEING SUBJECT TO NOW WITH ALL THE ENTITLEMENTS IMPOSED ON THEM.
CHOCKING CREATIVITY AND POTENTIAL BETTER LIVING.
HOPE TO READ YOUR POST SOON,
BEST TO YOU

@Al Cooper: Our regards, Al.

drjohn
yes from 2011 to now, he sure help to build a caliphate,

@drjohn:

Thank you DrJohn

Al Cooper, it is good to hear from you again. Life can be tough, but you are cut from a different cloth than most.
I’ve thought about you many times during your absence.
The best to you in ’13

Skookum, thank you my friend.

Al cooper,

good to see you back. Be well my friend