EPA ruling means most foods and drinks are polluted [Reader Post]

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Maybe he should go back to the teleprompter.

Barack Obama yesterday declared yesterday that America should “build stuff and invent stuff.”

Shining eloquence. Brilliant elocution. Erudite.

Anyway, Barack Obama recently tried to convince us that executive orders and regulations are your friends and best of all, the costs that these EO’s and regulations impose upon you are negligible.

If you’re Barack Obama wealthy they might be negligible. The rest of us will notice.

Sensible guy that he is, Obama was going to show us that he would excise some of those pesky regulations that just don’t make sense. The example he chose involved saccharin.

The president took aim at a longstanding Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) rule that categorized saccharin, an artificial sweetener, as a hazardous waste. “Well, if it goes in your coffee, it is not hazardous waste,” he said, noting that the agency overturned the rule last month.

Boy, does that ever beg a question.

I doubt Barack Obama has ever cooked a thing in his life possibly save for some rock candy. Many of us have cooked and for a long time.

Leavening agents.

   /ˈlɛvənɪŋ/ Show Spelled[lev-uh-ning] Show IPA
Also called leavening agent. a substance used to produce fermentation in dough or batter; leaven.


leavening agent

substance causing expansion of doughs and batters by the release of gases within such mixtures, producing baked products with porous structure. Such agents include air, steam, yeast, baking powder, and baking soda.


Leavening Agents:

A leavening agent (also leavening or leaven) is any one of a number of substances used in doughs and batters that cause a foaming action which lightens and softens the finished product. The leavening agent—biological, chemical, or even mechanical—reacts with moisture, heat, acidity, or other triggers to produce gas (usually carbon dioxide and sometimes ethanol) that becomes trapped as bubbles within the dough. When a dough or batter is mixed, the starch in the flour mixes with the water in the dough to form a matrix (often supported further by proteins like gluten or other polysaccharides like pentosans or xanthan gum), then gelatinizes and “sets”; the holes left by the gas bubbles remain.

CO2 is a pollutant.

Food- Slice of Choc Cake Pictures, Images and Photos

A slice of pollution

Baker’s yeast, baking powder, baking soda all can cause the release of pollutants.

All leavened baking goods release pollutants. Breads, cakes, cookies- all sources of pollution.

My beloved champagne contains and releases pollutants.

Adult beverages are plagued with pollutants.

All non-alcoholic sparkling drinks contain and release pollutants.

The food industry uses and produces a great amount of CO2 in more ways than you might at first think:

Raising the livestock, the machinery used in agriculture, and more:

CO2 Emitters

The quality and shelf life of food can be improved by using preservatives, CO2 emitters, (which are inserted into vacuum packed food) or by freezing, which is the most popular method. The most efficient method of freezing the food is by spraying liquid CO2 onto the food in a cryogenic unit.

In 1994 it was estimated that the food industry in the US emitted about 24,000,000 tons of CO2.

Don’t be surprised when the EPA decides to dictate what you eat in order to lower CO2 emissions. The solution seems simple- stop breathing and stop eating. If I am not mistaken, Obama’s science guy John Holdren has already thought of something along those lines.

But here’s the question that’s begging to be asked-

Mr. President- if putting something in your coffee means it cannot be a hazardous waste, then how can something intentionally part of and so vital to the foods we eat a pollutant?

And while we’re at it- can I sue the baker for feeding me pollution?

DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education. DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed. Except for liberals being foolish.

44 Responses to “EPA ruling means most foods and drinks are polluted [Reader Post]”

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    This is what the great Nobel Laureate George Stigler (not those frauds like Krugman or Obama) called “regulatory capture.” It is where regulations are passed or enforced that eliminate competition or capture an industry.

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    Nan G

    I noted your quoted links said this:
    Obama preemptively defended his administration’s environmental regulations…
    Lest people were FOOLED by Obama’s claim that he was going to review all federal regulations and get rid of those which most egregiously destroy business.
    No such intention.
    I will make a bet.
    If and when Obama’s list of ”bad” regulations ever comes out it’s 100% compliance would have very little effect on helping businesses.
    It can’t.
    Obama is anti-private enterprise from his core.
    That’s why he came out yesterday for a new Federal Research Center to develop new medicines.
    His own regulations have strangled private research.

    Soma, anyone?*

    *The imaginary “ideal pleasure drug” in Aldous Huxley’s novel Brave New World (1932). Its chemistry and pharmacology are undefined. As described, the drug resembles a hangoverless tranquilliser or an opiate.

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    John Cooper

    Why not? Several years back the EPA classified the smell of baking bread as a pollutant and forced bakeries to install equipment to control the “volatile organic compounds” emanating from the baking bread.

    I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that the loaf of bread which used to cost 99 cents now costs three bucks.

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    How bizarre, the key ingredient to all life, carbon, has now become the enemy of all life and not to be ignored is the curious, but key fact, that it is also a main portion of the Socialist platform for Open Societies and international wealth redistribution, so important to our First Citizen of The World, our President.

    Consequently, we face the penalty of making Al Gore fantastically wealthy and supplying Leftist dictators in Third World Countries with the financial means to maintain authoritarian control over populations so that they can exploit, plunder, and rape their captive people under the guise of saving the earth; all for the sin of adding yeast to dough and creating the essential food for all green plants and food stocks to grow. We should hang our heads in shame at our public insensitivity and selfishness. We live in opulence, while Leftist dictators and thugs world wide are watching us and wondering where they will find the next rogue sponsor to buy their troops more weapons and food, rogue armies must eat too. Let us not forget the most corrupt and piously profane of all, the sanctimonious thugs at the United Nations who want a piece of the action, so that they can maintain their villas in the South of France and the Caribbean, just in case the world goes mad, not to mention their apartments in New York and their bimbo mistresses and their witless family members who need to pretend they are working. All this is expensive and it is our responsibility to support this system of international sloth and corruption, this is the word from the highest of the high, the Soros/Obama team. So think twice before using that yeast, unleavened bread was good enough for the Old Testament, do you really think you should indulge yourself at the risk of destroying the world, Al Gore, The UN, and all those Leftist dictators, just for the sake of having light bread with air pockets, let’s be serious.

    We should look at this problem with more perspicuity; especially, sense we are in for a bad spell of whether, the fact that we are always worried about weather it is too cold or too hot has left us vulnerable for the purveyors of lies and fanciful schemes. We have been willing to swallow this foul bilge from the most profane among us, just for the faint and forlorn hope of not enduring 100 plus weather, while they work us like rubes in the tradition of Barnum and Bailey. Yes, ignorance is a self-imposed disease, a disease of consequence, mired in the gullibility of people who want to do good in the world; yet, in their haste to assume the mantle of saint hood or at least some chivalrous notion of nobility from an era that never existed, except in the minds of the deluded and that is the crux of the problem, making a science from the minds of deluded people. Those of whom are so easily manipulated in their delusion, they are willing to destroy our country and themselves, to fulfill the false prophesy of a cult. A cult of the ignorant and deceived being manipulated by the Great Pretenders, who work the crowds for wealth and power.

    I think I will make some bread this morning; actually, I’ll make a sour dough starter and keep it going for months so that I have a continuous emission of CO2, I feel dastardly this morning.

    When we are born, we cry that we are come
    To this great stage of fools.

    King Lear IV:6

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    I would bet that all those ‘bad regulations’ are regulations that give businesses a fighting chance to defend against frivolous environmental suits and actions by the federal and state governments.

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    I recently had a discussion here at FA concerning CO2. (I continued this discussion until I was exhausted!) I was told by a gentleman from Long Beach that the rapid rise in CO2 would cause harm to humans when it contacted the membranes involved in breathing. The levels we were discussing were .12%. I finally realized that to this person, combating CO2 in the atmosphere or more likely eliminating CO2 emitting sources was part of his religious beliefs. After all, why else would he be concerned about a level of CO2 in the atmosphere at .12% when he exhales CO2 at 4.5% concentrations. Being green has become a religion where nothing can change their mind except the word of their gods and their gods are making too much money to relent!

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    Randy, they are worried about heavy breathing, not from sexual exercise or vigorous work, but from self righteous indignation over our refusal to worship at the altars of their cults.

    Ego non baptizte in nomite patris, sed in nomine diaboli. What say ye pagans!

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    another vet

    One way to call them out on this is to ask what the evacuation plan is for NYC since according to Al Gore & company it’s supposed to be under 10 feet of water or something like that in a couple of deades. At some point in time in the very near future it should become uninhabitable. It will take awhile to permanently relocate all those millions of people. Why are they waiting if this is all true?

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    If I remember correctly, Al Gore was looking forward to gas at $5 per gallon as a way to get people to stop driving. Well, when Mr. O took office, gas was $1.89 a gallon and now it’s over $3. People still drive to work and drive to do errands, we just have less in our pockets.

    I need to replace some more of those confounded CFL lamps. They just keep burning out. Those lamps are made in China and they cost a lot more than the incandescent lamps. I just have less money in my pocket and more mercury to dispose of. Oh yes, and I have to drive to the landfill so that these lamps can be properly disposed of.

    Now Maryland wants to tax plastic bags from the grocery store. Never mind that the store gives me a rebate for each of my own bags I take to the store. I’ll just have less money in my pocket.

    Did you check your electric bill lately? Did you notice how the electric producers are supposed to use more “renewal” resources, like wind power? Well, wind mills don’t produce a lot of energy, are partly subsidized through the feds, and are surrounded by dead birds. I have less money in my pocket, but the EPA wonks are happy and the birds are dead.

    Has the EPA figured out how to get a plane off the ground with wind power? The EPA is blocking drilling, coal mining and any other form of energy production (except the PC ones). I have less money in my pocket to fly to visit my grand daughter.

    Electric cars are really cool. But go only a short distance, need constant recharging, and purchasers get federal funds to buy the dumb things. Thanks EPA for using my money to help someone else by a car. I just have less money in my pocket.

    Oh, and cars… the tiny ones. What a luxury. You can’t take those on the highway, or they could get smooshed in an accident. The only people I know driving those, use them to poke around town, and are all liberal elites (able to afford to have a car as a statement). But they must have some money in their pockets to afford a toy car.

    Our government was never meant to be run by one philosophy, be it conservative or liberal. Our government was designed to have a lot of give and take. So, to Mr. O and minions, thanks for the change.
    Personally, I prefer bills that fold.

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    oil guy from Alberta

    Anhydrous ammonia is poisonous, but can be a tremendous fertilizer especially with heavy rain or irrigation. It couples with the nitrates in the soil and thus ammonium nitrate becomes the active fertilizer.

    Greenies and the EPA bureaucrats should not eat any food that is raised on chemical fertilizers. In fact, any food that is enriched from the excrement of flatulating animals.

    Isn’t over regulating grand? Isn’t a dumbed down society awesome?

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    When Oil skyrockets, like Obama promised it would with his grand central planning and wealth redistribution nonsense, everything goes up as a reciprocal action, all commodities move by oil in one form, now we can expect to be shopping for groceries very carefully. I gauge my cost by layers of food, one layer $100, 2 layers $200, and so on until you are out of money. Isn’t Socialism grand: forget the days of milk and honey, these are the days of Obama and staggering debt and no drilling and no jobs. The Third World is who we are really concerned with, welcome to Obama’s Dystopia and National Poverty.

    Science…commits suicide when it adopts a creed. Huxley

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    Obwoma is dumber than a bag of rocks. He projects alot so he thinks it is us who are dumb.
    Let him go invent something. Oh wait he already tried to invent a birth certificate and he failed.

    Watch China crash. They can’t invent a thing so obowma wants us to invent “stuff” for the Chinese. No way!

    If it’s made in China I put it back on the shelf. Do Not buy it!

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    I think I will make some bread this morning; actually, I’ll make a sour dough starter and keep it going for months so that I have a continuous emission of CO2, I feel dastardly this morning.

    Hah! Reason #327 that I adore you, Skookum.

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    Greg and John knew their roles
    Liberalism was embedded in their souls
    Talking points they spouted
    In Socialism they shrouded
    To try and hide their identities as trolls.

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    The question is why all this emphasis on CO2 while the administration continues to ignore the dangers of Dihydrogen Monoxide in our environment. Here’s a few facts:
    “Dihydrogen Monoxide is found in detectable and biologically significant levels in virtually all tumors and other cancerous and pre-cancerous growths.”
    “DHMO contributes to global warming and the “Greenhouse Effect”, and is one of the so-called “greenhouse gasses.”
    “Measurable levels of DHMO have been verified in ice samples taken from both the Arctic and Antarctic ice caps.”

    Research conducted by award-winning U.S. scientist Nathan Zohner concluded that roughly 86 percent of the population supports a ban on dihydrogen monoxide. It’s time we all get together to eliminate our exposure to DHMO. Lets unmask this government cover up now!!!
    For more facts on the many dangers of DHMO visit their research site at: http://www.dhmo.org
    (I’m sure many of you are already aware of DHMO but this is for those who aren’t)

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    As much of a hazard as Dihydrogen monoxide is, congress has decided that the higher levels of noise emitted by television commercials are much more of a public health issue. That is why the lame duck congress worked hard to pass a bill reducing the sound levels of TV comercials. Obama quickly signed it into law!
    Liberty, you forgot to mention the dangers of dehydrated DHMO. I think Michael Mann is studying the effects on dead tree rings right now!

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    @Randy: I am thrilled with the new regulations for volume control. i have a very old cheap TV that had automatic volume leveling built in and I loved it. I often thought “why don’t they pass a law?”. I’ve been shopping for new TV’s for a year now and this is one of the features I was looking for. Now I can eliminate that concern. It is such a hard decision–size and features and price verses quality etc. I’m hoping Obama passes a TV equalization law so all these decisions are no longer a burden on me. If he had done that a year ago and subsidized them, I would already have had a new TV.

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    @Randy: I must confess I have never heard of dehydrated DHMO.
    I would expected the dehydration process would result in a large release of its chemicals into the air. Perhaps this is how it is ending up in our soil and streams. Are any industries involved with this dehydration process? Perhaps we need regulations to force them to re-hydrate their DHMO before it enters the atmosphere. They would be required to contain it until it can be safely disposed of.
    ( I seem to be having some sort of conflict in my reasoning here. Perhaps some liberal can advise me on how to live with it.)

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    Logic would dictate that a company which depends on harvesting the forest would necessarily replant in order to sustain future crops of forestation.

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    Nan G

    I think there was a revisionist history cartoon for grade schoolers that falsely claimed paper and lumber companies clear-cut forests and never replanted anything.
    Of course children don’t know that’s a lie.
    More trees are planted yearly by paper companies and lumber companies than by all the so-called green groups put together…..ever.
    More than 80% of new seedlings are planted by forest product companies and private timberland owners. The rest are planted by federal and state agencies and individuals.

    1.5 BILLION trees are planted every year in the USA (that’s 4.1 MILLION a day!)
    700 MILLION trees are planted in Canada every year.

    There are 82% more hardwoods in the U.S. today than in 1952.

    We are in the printing business.
    We buy seedlings every time we buy paper!

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    Nan, you are an outstanding researcher, but if you insist on throwing logic into these arguments then you have to understand that when a liberal’s head explodes, you may be held accountable. 😛

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    There are many people who die every year from dehydrated dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO). One of the chemicals that Saddam used against us in Iraq was dehydrated DHMO there were soldiers getting sick every day!

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    Bees, it is from the chapter in Moby Dick, Ahab is baptizing the new harpoon just forged by the blacksmith, that he plans to kill the White with, it is made from race horse nail studs and his old razors, the best steel of the day: with the fresh hot blood of his pagan harpooners, Ahab quenches the new red hot harpoon head and barb for the correct temper or hardness, not in the name of G-d or the holy father, but in the name of the diabolical or the devil. Pretty simple stuff, I thought everyone knew the passage. It is scary material, if you are a child in the wilderness, like most of us.

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    SKOOKUM, thak you, I realy like that movie but don’t remember that quote,
    of course I could have not understood the english language either,
    as I would mostly guess the words more at the time,

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    It was Gregory Peck and the cannibal, the American Indian, and a Pacific Islander; they cut their arms with a sharp knife and let the blood flow into a bowl and then Ahab quenched the harpoon. What a scene, what a page from the book; well it scared young Skook back then and still does today. I try to read the book every year and the hair stands up on my arms when I read that passage.

    I can make the Damascus harpoon, but I’ll quench it in oil if you don’t mind, without the profane oath. There’s no use tempting fate, like Ahab, who gave his soul to the devil in his obsessive quest to conquer evil and thus he became an even worse evil and destroyed all save one, Ishmael.

    Do you see any analogies with the present day?

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    SKOOKUM, yes I think I do see analogy with this POST about ,imposing their views on the citizens,
    because they just want to continiue the hold they have reach unchallenged on the people,
    they pretend to save all and lead all to self destruct!
    am I on the right track of mind as what you where expecting?

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    There you go, Bees. I try to write hidden messages and sometimes they are too well hidden or they don’t make sense to anyone else, but me; however, you are on to the idea. You are pretty tricky, Bees. That is the fun part of writing, capturing the reader’s imagination and opening new thoughts or views.

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    Would you like me to delete them Bees? Just keep the one you want up there? It was just a glitch with the server that caused your comments to be held.

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