Newsweek story on missed warning signs completely misses the warning signs [Reader Post]

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This is why no one reads Newsweek any more.

Before you go any further, can you guess what the story is going to say?

It’s likely you’re right. (Via WZ)

The Missed Warning Signs

A 2009 study warned that the rise of right-wing extremism could spur violent attacks. But the report was attacked by Republicans, including now-Speaker John Boehner.


In the wake of last weekend’s attempted assassination of Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, which left six dead and 14 wounded, the report’s warning of a lone wolf attack from someone with extremist tendencies seems prescient.

But when the April 2009 report was issued, it was overwhelmingly criticized by conservative commentators and lawmakers, who derided it as political propaganda from the Obama administration. Some experts worry that its findings were ignored due to political blowback.

And the fault lies with conservatives, of course.

The awkward language he refers to was a section in the report warning that returning veterans could be prime targets for recruitment into extremist organizations. Then-Minority Leader Boehner of Ohio was one of many Republicans who called on DHS to apologize.


Leading conservatives claimed the report was a White House-directed hit piece—commentator Michelle Malkin derided it as “propaganda.”

So these are the warning signs- conservatives objecting to a report that identified the right wing and returning vets as terrorist threats.

As my Pop would have said – “Donkey dust!”

Were there warning signs? There were many warning signs. There were red flags. Sirens were going off. Danger lights were flashing.

People were afraid of Jared Loughner.

A community college instructor who taught Tucson shooting suspect Jared Loughner was so disturbed by the student’s outbursts in class that he requested Loughner’s removal from the course, he told the Washington Post in an interview Sunday.

Ben McGahee, a third-year instructor at Pima Community College, taught Loughner in an elementary algebra class last summer. McGahee said that while Loughner never threatened him directly, he was concerned by his behavior.

“I always felt, you know, somewhat paranoid,” McGahee said. “When I turned my back to write on the board, I would always turn back quickly–to see if he had a gun.”

Loughner posted on MySpace:

“WOW! I’m glad i didn’t kill myself. I’ll see you on National T.v.! This is foreshadow …. why doesn’t anyone talk to me?..” he posted on MySpace Dec. 14.

On Dec. 13, he wrote: “I don’t feel good: I’m ready to kill a police officer! I can say it.“

In 2007 Loughner met Gabrielle Giffords and posed a non-sensical question to her:

‘What is government if words have no meaning?'”

According to Loughner’s friend Bryce Tierney, Loughner was put off by her answer.

Giffords’ answer, whatever it was, didn’t satisfy Loughner. “He said, ‘Can you believe it, they wouldn’t answer my question,’ and I told him, ‘Dude, no one’s going to answer that,'” Tierney recalls. “Ever since that, he thought she was fake, he had something against her.”

Over time Loughner’s friends noticed that Loughner became more and more detached from reality.


“After he quit (drugs), he was just off the wall.” And Loughner started to drift away from his group of friends about a year ago. By early 2010, dreaming had become Loughner’s “waking life, his reality,” Tierney says. “He sort of drifted off, didn’t really care about hanging out with friends. He’d be sleeping a lot.” Loughner’s alternate reality was attractive, Tierney says. “He figured out he could fly.” Loughner, according to Tierney, told his friends, “I’m so into it because I can create things and fly. I’m everything I’m not in this world.”

Tierney and another friend made a chillingly prescient observation:

One of the last times Loughner and Tierney saw each other, a mutual friend had recently purchased a .22-caliber rifle. Until then, Loughner had never shown much interest in guns, Tierney says. “My friend had just gotten a .22, and Jared kept saying we should go shooting together.” But Tierney and the friend who had bought the .22 demurred. “We were sketched out,” Tierney says, “and we were like, ‘I don’t think Jared’s a good person to go shooting with.'”

Another friend, Zane Guitierrez, made similar observations.

“Jared felt nothing existed but his subconscious,” Mr. Gutierrez said. “The dream world was what was real to Jared, not the day-to-day of our lives.”


As his behavior grew more puzzling to his friends, he was getting better with a pistol. Starting in high school, Mr. Loughner honed his marksmanship with a 9-millimeter pistol, the same caliber weapon used in the attack Saturday, until he became proficient at handling the weapon and firing it quickly.


“It got worse over time,” Mr. Gutierrez said. He said he stopped talking to Mr. Loughner last March, when their interactions grew increasingly unpredictable and troubling. “He would call me at 2 a.m. and asked, ‘Are you hanging out in front of my house, stalking me?’ He started to get really paranoid, and said he did not want to see us anymore and did not trust us,” Mr. Gutierrez said, referring to himself and another friend. “He thought we were plotting to kill him or steal his car.”

Then there’s Sherriff Clarence Dumbshit Limpdik Dupnik. (for you, William T)

Pima County Police were familar with Loughner.

The police were sent to the home where Jared L. Loughner lived with his family on more than one occasion before the attack here on Saturday that left a congresswoman fighting for her life and six others dead, the Pima County Sheriff’s Department said on Tuesday.

Loughner had a few minor run-in’s with the Pima County Police

In October 2007, Loughner was cited by the Pima County Sheriff’s Department for possession of drug paraphernalia, a charge that was dismissed in November 2007 when he completed a diversion program.

One year later, in October 2008, Loughner was charged with a “local charge” in Marana Municipal Court, that charge was also dismissed following the completion of a diversion program in March 2009.

Court records indicate the Marana case file is due to be purged in December 2013. It’s unclear what the exact charge was.

and some not-so-minor encounters

The suspect in Saturday’s shooting rampage in which a U.S. congresswoman was critically wounded was unstable and had been known to make death threats in the past, the local sheriff said.

The local sherriff. That would be Sherriff Clarence Dumbshit Limpdik Dupnik.

And the sherriff then said…………….wait for it………..

“All I can tell you is that this person may have a mental issue.”

If only.

Unfortunately it turned out there was much more that Dumbshit Limpdik Dupnik could say. The Sherriff blamed Rush Limbaugh, Sharron Angle and Sarah Palin but when asked for proof of those assertions he had none.

Ace wryly observes

Arizona Sheriff Says He Doesn’t Know Why Loughner Shot Giffords And Others But He’s Pretty Sure It’s Because Of Republicans

Loughner was shooting guns. Loughner’s behavior became wildly erratic. He repeated made others feel he was out of touch with reality and exhibited over signs of paranoia.

He made multiple death threats.

At The Cholla Jumps James Kelley notes how well the Sherriff handles details

Jared Loughner, pronounced by the Sheriff as Lock-ner, saying it was the Polish pronunciation. Of course he meant Scott or Irish but that isn’t the point. The point is he and his office have had previous contact with the alleged assailant in the past and that is how he knows how to pronounce the name.

Kelley, a Navy vet and Tucson native, provides more and frightening insight

Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system.

And he gets it right

Every victim of his threats previously must also be wondering if this tragedy could have been prevented if they had been more aggressive in pursuing charges against Mr. Loughner. Perhaps with a felony conviction he would never have been able to lawfully by the Glock 9mm Model 19 that he used to strike down the lives of six people and decimate 14 more.

This was not an act of politics. This was an act of a mentally disturbed young man hell bent on getting his 15 minutes of infamy. The Pima County Sheriff’s Department was aware of his violent nature and they failed to act appropriately. This tragedy leads right back to Sherriff Dupnik and all the spin in the world is not going to change that fact.

I doubt all the shoes have dropped and if I were betting, I’d bet the next shoes belong to the Sheriff.

DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education. DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed. Except for liberals being foolish.

12 Responses to “Newsweek story on missed warning signs completely misses the warning signs [Reader Post]”

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    But who can prove that “hateful rhetoric” affects anybody to do anything.

    Think back to a church in Chicago whose pastor, Jeremiah Wright, screamed out things like “God Damn America.” A certain parishioner of 20 years, we were told, was totally unaffected.

    Is Newsweek disputing that last part ?

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    Kalashnikat in Colorado

    @John ryan:

    Nazi is short for National Socialist Party…Nazism by definition was not right wing, nor even remotely Christian…it was left wing but based on a racist/nationalist Aryan master-race mythology the party invented. Look it up, since you are obviously ignorant of the nature of the leftist world view…

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    The hate preached by Rev. Wright is a completely different thing – it comes from a leftist, and leftists have conditioned us to accept that it is their right to be hateful – it’s what they do. The other thing they do is hold others to standards they themselves laugh at.

    Oh, and they have pretty much taken over the media and the Democratic Party. Have a nice day.

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    When this “Tragic Accident” (courtesy of Pelosi) happened, and after it sunk in my mind the awfulness of what I had just heard, I thought to myself , OMG – I pray it was not anyone connected to the Right, cause the Left is just going to have a ‘field’ day with this if it is. Then what I heard later…

    In the wake of the events last Saturday I thought Sheriff Dupniks comments later in the day were so ‘over the ‘top’ , his vile rhetoric and accusations toward proponents of the Right without an ‘ounce’, an “OUNCE’ of Proof! I couldn’t believe my ears!! And this is a Sheriff speaking??? huh??

    In my comment I also wrote that I thought since he was ‘pressing’ the ‘issue’ about rhetoric, violence, inciting violence and an atmosphere of hate, Tea Party violence etc.. etc.. he named the Right first, then he decided to include, but barely, the Left. I thought – Is this Dupnik trying to ‘distract’ everyone from another ‘issue’?

    I think, but I could be wrong, that Dupnik and his department ‘dropped the ball’ many times. And his rhetoric about a bad political atmosphere caused by the Right, could be a huge distraction to that dropped ball.

    Someone made a good point today, in such a >volatile political atmosphere< , why were there not at least a couple of police officers at the Congresswoman's public meeting that day if only to give a " show" of their presence that morning?

    What I would like to see, but, I know it's not going to happen, is when the "Truth" comes out, and it will, that Sheriff Dupnik make a "Public Apology" (since he likes to run he mouth off in public) to all those he dragged unfairly into his own Political Agenda of Rhetoric and hatred toward the Right. Because quite frankly, he made a lot of idiotic statements that 'really' incited the Left, and as a public official he should be ashamed of himself.

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    Radical American Patriot

    @John ryan:
    Now THERE’S a completely STUPID comment! Calling Nazis “Right wing” because they believed in Socialism based on ‘National Identity’ versus the Communists in Soviet Union believed in Worldwide Socialism based on a world WITHOUT borders; is like calling cowsh*t, filet mignon because it isn’t horse manure. What part of “National Socialist’ (NAZI) DON’T you understand?

    Oh yes, mr ryan, here’s a link to a Wikipedia’s article of Hitler’s National Socialist Program. Expand the 25 point program introduced by Hitler on Feb 24, 1920. Other than the ‘nationalist’ aspects, there is LITTLE difference between it’s principles and the Communist Manifesto:

    Calling it “right-wing'” is simply another lie from you despicable, evil , lunatic, leftists!

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    It is a shame someone like Ryan has an opinion, it confirms his ignorance and leftist view of reality.

    The left will keep this mantra of hate speech up because it plays well into the weak minded sensibilities of Parasite Nation.

    Children of the last twentyfive years have been indoctrinated through the self esteem and non judgmental BS in our schools. Ask a young person of say twenty five or less what is wrong and you will get, “racism, homophobia, hate speech”. These sad little sheep ca not formulate opinion for fear of hurting someone’s feelings or seeming to be judgemental.

    They also are ignorant on true history.

    Well trained little sheep waiting for the kill.

    America is doomed!

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