More Blood on the Hands of Wikileaks – Abbas Cooperated with Israel

I guess you guys are ‘we love Orwellian big goverment that practices secrecy and lies’ ‘conservatives’? The we love the military state, with 700 military bases around the world, who have so far murdered over a million iraqi’s.. for cheap oil to drive hummers ‘conservatives’? You don’t appreciate being informed of what your goverment is doing in your name, and when your political leaders hypocrisy on steroids is exposed, you prefer not to take stock of the situation, and make changes based upon new facts.. you prefer to shoot the messenger and cover up your hypocritical leaders?

You sure don’t sound like the Ron Paul Libertarians, who love small open, honest and trasnparent goverment, with no foreign american bases, who don’t invade other countries on lies and deception; who live in accordance to your means, both in terms of debt and resources, who don’t get yourself involved in entanglements? Don’t sound like you would want a Wiki the Fed, as Ron Paul supports for an open audit of the fed, or that open transparent goverment holds your elected leaders accountable, and that if you hadn’t invaded Iraq, you wouldn’t have the blood of a million dead iraqis on your hands…

Seems like there are two different types of ‘conservatives’… just like their are two different kinds of liberals….

seems like there are liberals and conservatives who value honesty and transparency, cause they know that liberty is protected, and goverment can be held accountable, when the citizens are fully informed….

and then there are liberals and conservatives who prefer secrecy and covering up the corruption of their statist corrupt elite…

very interesting, i must say!

Andrea

I despise being lumped in with ”Hummer drivers, Ron Paul lovers or baby murderers.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Have you ever seen the photo essay of the kinds of cars carrying your Leftist bumper stickers?
LOL!
It’s a GAS!
No, really, a GAS GUZZLER!
Here it is.
http://www.zombietime.com/concourse_of_hypocrisy/
A cavalcade of gas-guzzling contemporary automobiles with
hypocritical bumper stickers

As to Ron Paul, he has said some good stuff, but he is hypocritical, too.
He fills bill after bill with PORK for his district then, when he is SURE it will pass, he votes against it!

And abortionists have killed far more people, most of them Americans and Europeans, than total dead in Iraq AND Afghanistan!
So, pat yourself on the back.

Andrea,

Here we go again… You are another believer in the million Iraqi myth.

If you are that uninformed, how can any of your other statements hold any water?

I stand by my statements…

When someone provides me a response that is based on rational scientific journalism evidence response; I’ll be happy to respond directly thereto. I don’t find it useful to get involved in rational debates with indiviudals who are incapable of making impartial enquiries, because their total sense of identity is rooted in their ideology. Its pointless, they are not interested in a discussion; they are involved in a fake Jim Jones believe my emotional tirade argument.

“WikiLeaks coined a new type of journalism: scientific journalism. We work with other media outlets to bring people the news, but also to prove it is true. Scientific journalism allows you to read a news story, then to click online to see the original document it is based on. That way you can judge for yourself: Is the story true? Did the journalist report it accurately?” — Don’t shoot messenger for revealing uncomfortable truths, by Julian Assange, The Australian, December 08, 2010

It doesn’t appear as if any of these extremely emotional responses, have read any of what Assange said. Now as far as I know honest conservatives, they make impartial enquiries, they are conservatives, not cause they are so ego-fragile and looking for a herd to pretend to join, so they can feel at home; but they are conservatives, because they practice conservativeism in their lives. One of those principles is to make impartial enquiries, to read exactly what someone themselves has written, not what a bunch of other people have written about the man. Julian Assange appears to be more conservative than any of these emotional children who ain’t read a thing he said, yet have very emotional opinions about him, thanks to reading their daily fake conservative guru’s instructions of belief.

For example… these fake children conservatives.. PREFER CORRUPT GOVERMENT???

In Andy Greenberg’s Forbes Interview of Assange, he asks Assange: What do you think WikiLeaks mean for business? How do businesses need to adjust to a world where WikiLeaks exists?..

WikiLeaks means it’s easier to run a good business and harder to run a bad business, and all CEOs should be encouraged by this. I think about the case in China where milk powder companies started cutting the protein in milk powder with plastics. That happened at a number of separate manufacturers.

Let’s say you want to run a good company. It’s nice to have an ethical workplace. Your employees are much less likely to screw you over if they’re not screwing other people over.

Then one company starts cutting their milk powder with melamine, and becomes more profitable. You can follow suit, or slowly go bankrupt and the one that’s cutting its milk powder will take you over. That’s the worst of all possible outcomes.

The other possibility is that the first one to cut its milk powder is exposed. Then you don’t have to cut your milk powder. There’s a threat of regulation that produces self-regulation.

It just means that it’s easier for honest CEOs to run an honest business, if the dishonest businesses are more effected negatively by leaks than honest businesses. That’s the whole idea. In the struggle between open and honest companies and dishonest and closed companies, we’re creating a tremendous reputational tax on the unethical companies.

No one wants to have their own things leaked. It pains us when we have internal leaks. But across any given industry, it is both good for the whole industry to have those leaks and it’s especially good for the good players.

Perhaps your fake conservative cult guru’s may one day tell you to go and read the scientific journalism evidence.. where the journalists, left or right, are bothered providing the evidence for their statements, the original documents, upon which they base their interpretations; so you can start making up your minds from the original facts.. not guru fake conservative cult yellow journalism….

and for those who think living in harmony with the earth is being a ‘leftie’; pray are you saying that the founder of COMMON SENSE was a leftie communist???

Is Judge Napolitano a communist leftie?
Whose read what he has to say about Wikileaks and corrupt goverment?
there are many dozens more, of good solid conservatives who support honest and transparent small goverment.

“I don’t find it useful to get involved in rational debates with indiviudals who are incapable of making impartial enquiries, because their total sense of identity is rooted in their ideology. Its pointless, they are not interested in a discussion; they are involved in a fake Jim Jones believe my emotional tirade argument.”

lol…pot – kettle – black, game – set – match.

Keep circling those wagons darlin’ because that’s how the water flows when your spinning down the drain.

Andrea,

Put down the crack pipe. You should damn well know that *REPUTABLE* sources, sources you even reference (but don’t use) put the number at just shy of 110k.

So just give it up already. You are the one sucking down kool-aid; that is why your whole “argument” is a huge gigantic fail — it is a whole wall of text regurgitating leftist and anti-war hyperbole that starts out with stated debate logic failures from yourself.

You want to be taken seriously, you better bring an ACTUAL scientific / unbiased / rational argument to the table instead of the weak ass tripe you just attempted to pass off as fact.

Merry xmas.

Malize,

Pray share your ‘reputable’ sources?

As for xmas.. its a pagan holiday for fake christians, i am neither a pagan, nor a fake christian. But I ain’t got any problem with either pagans or fake christians enjoying their pagan/fake christian holiday.

Andrea, what is it with you, no slaves to compare with oil, you must be talking about other COUNTRYS who still hold their people in slavery. and use them as expandeble slaves easy to replace, but wait,
the PRESIDENT BUSH SEND THE TROOPS TO STOP THOSES MASS KILLING,NOT FOR OIL,
YOU SHOULD LOOK DEEPER THAN WHAT SOME MEDIAS ARE PAID TO SAY,
YES TOO BAD SO MANY LIKE YOU JUST TAKE IT AS IT SAYS, AND THE WORSE THING IS THAT YOU GET OTHER IGNORANTS OF THE FACTS TO FOLLOW YOUR CROOKED JUDGEMENT.

Andrea…apparently you don’t read the stuff you cut and paste. As I *stated* earlier the sources were referenced in *YOUR OWN POST*

Are you normally this much of a colossal failbot?