Midterms: Palin, tea party and conservatives gamble all for the heart & soul of America

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Unusual situations make for strange bedfellows

Thanks to a very underestimated Palin, along with Sen. DeMint and some influential talk radio hosts, some Americans finally have a choice in the midterms between something other than Dem and Dem-lite. Of the 19 candidates for Congress or Governor endorsed by Palin, 11 won, 8 lost. Enough so that, even after over a year and a half of mocking Sarah Palin as a passing fad, Obama mouthpiece, Robert Gibbs, had to concede that Palin’s successes in the primary might just have proven that Sarah is the “most formidable force in the GOP.

With the die cast, it cannot be ignored that the stakes are huge… indeed, we are all gambling for the very heart and soul of our nation, our economy, and our founding principles. And on the heels of what should have been immediately embraced by the GOP, the conservatives, Palin and tea partiers instead found themselves at odds with the establishment Republicans.

Within days of their respective losses, three career Republican “spoilers” emerged… Charlie Crist in Florida decided to run as an Independent, disgruntled with the state’s voters overwhelmingly choosing Marco Rubio. Alaska’s Lisa Murkowski mounts a write-in campaign against Palin endorsed attorney, Joe Miller. And we all remember from there is historically little love lost between Palin and the Murkowski families.

Mike Castle’s DE loss to Palin/tea party favorite, Christine O’Donnell not only resulted in a consolation call to Castle from the POTUS himself, but O’Donnell found herself financially ostracized by the GOP in the hours following when the NRSC flatly refused to fund her campaign. On the heels of constituent criticism, some of the establishment GOP leaders bucked the party war chest decision, and the NRSC backed down within 24 hours, agreeing to send the maximum $42K allowable.

But when Bill Maher hit the airwaves with 1998 “Politically Incorrect” clips of O’Donnell admitting to “dabbling” and associations with witchcraft, criticism arises from conservative blog, Power Line… with the headline that O’Donnell’s career should “RIP”… Michelle Malkin countered, and again the conservative camps found themselves at odds with normal platform allies.

The establishment GOP media didn’t rise above the fray either, with conservative pundit staples like Charles Krauthammer, calling the Palin/DeMint endorsement of O’Donnell “disruptive”. Karl “the architect” Rover found himself swimming in circles – first trashing O’Donnell on Hannity… only to throw his considerable weight of support behind her a day later. If the reversals weren’t dizzying enough, the Sunday talking head circuit found Rove lukewarm again, chastising O’Donnell for not “explaining the witchcraft” charges to voters after canceling her scheduled appearances to attend local DE events instead.

THE GAMBLED STAKES ON THE TABLE

In case we fiscal conservatives haven’t figured it out yet, our electoral hopes do not lie in official GOP support, but in allying ourselves with others…. Conservatives, Independents and Reagan Democrats alike… to wage war with not only the Democrats, but with the Republican Party as well. Unusual political situations find us making strange bedfellows indeed.

Winning the primaries gave fiscally astute voters a shot of adrenaline… but now the real test looms large. Can the conservative/tea party Palin endorsees win in November’s general election?

I sure hope so… because the alternative is unthinkable. Dems need to be removed from control of the nation’s purse strings, and none of us needs lectures from the GOP that RINOs are the best the Republicans can offer for our future. Death by a thousand cuts is not more appealing than severing the vein. Even then, we still may face unintended fallout.

But if we’ve learned anything in a short week, it’s that party unity is no guarantee, and it’s a bit early to kick up our heels and hang a “Mission Accomplished” sign on the bow. If the Palin/DeMint endorsed candidates fail to hit our expectations, we can expect to be subjected to serious finger wagging by the GOP, citing the Buckley Rule… support the “most electable” candidate.

Yet it was decades of the Buckley Rule that lead to our “no choice” in candidates positions…

… until this midterm election, and an outright rebellion by an angry nation, that is.

Yes… we rejoice that we now genuinely have a choice between divergent visions for this nation’s future. But if we lose with those candidates, we not only suffer thru GOP smug righteousness, and possible Dem majority in either or both chambers, but Palin and DeMint’s stars could fall as well. Both political leaders have sided with the fiscally conservative constituents and bucked the Party. While DeMint is entrenched in his seat, Palin’s future street cred may suffer a serious backlash for 2012.

There is no doubt that November will be a bellwether moment… will this nation revert to it’s founding principles of less government intrusion? Or will we find that decades of William Ayer’s “social justice” curriculum in our public schools has taken root, and the US citizenry indeed wishes to march towards a more socialist structure?

It’s going to be a nail biting election season…

THE OBAMA/DNC WAR ROOM STRATEGY FOR MIDTERMS

One thing in our favor… the typical lib/prog approach to any kind of war – military or political – generally results in them telegraphing their strategic plans boldly thru the media. And that strategy simply comes down to this…. Alinksy Rides Again.

We already know that the White House coordinated the strategy back in early August, sending the word out to ignore controversial legislative accomplishments this campaign season, and to focus on promises about the economy.

But more specifically, their battle about the economy was not to be based in an agenda of ideas, but founded on hyping the fear of Republican control.

In an effort coordinated with the White House, congressional leaders are urging Democrats to focus less on bragging about what they have done — a landmark healthcare law, a sweeping overhaul of Wall Street regulation and other far-reaching policy changes — and more on efforts to fix the economy and on the perils of Republican control of Congress.

Obama was one of the first to jump on the “fear the GOP – divide and conquer” campaign strategy. He effectively dodged the real issues and his lackluster performance a day later in a fundraising speech in Dallas Aug 10th.

The Democratic strategy is to make the Nov. 2 elections a choice between competing visions, rather than a referendum on Obama administration policies and Democratic leadership. On one side, the Democrats argue, is a mainstream party pursuing forward-thinking policies to benefit the middle class; on the other are extremist Republicans pushing a return to the unpopular policies of the previous administration.

“The question we’re going to have in this election is whether we’re going to continue down a path of creating greater opportunity, making that opportunity available to all people — are we going to become more competitive in this 21st-century economy — or are we going to go backwards to the exact same policies that got us into this mess in the first place?” Obama said Monday during a fundraiser for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee at a private Dallas residence.

“And if you don’t think that’s what the choice is, you haven’t been paying attention to what the other side is offering for November,” Obama continued. “What they’re counting on in this election is amnesia. They’re counting on you not remembering the disastrous consequences of economic policies that, by the way, had caused problems for working-class families, for middle-class families, before the recession hit, before the crisis hit.”

Alinsky #13 rides again…. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. Obama has remained true to the campaign strategy, continually portraying “the other side” as the nation’s domestic axis of evil.

Democrats are focusing on labeling the conservatives and tea partiers are extremist, inept, bigoted and dangerous for the country. They will be happy to seize upon any “proof” they can muster to support their claims. Nay… not only happy, we can expect to be further baited to portray ourselves as such in the run up to the elections by pushing the hot buttons of conservatives on the defense.

And to do this, they will endeavor to keep the conservatives away from the issues with Alinsky Rules for Radicals, #5:

“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.”

Beware the bait… it will be laid out often, and cleverly disguised. Since we know, full well, there is a political minefield before us, we need to pick our paths thru the field carefully.

A SUGGESTED “UNITED FRONT” CAMPAIGN SOLUTION

The more we become distracted, taking their bait, the happier the Democrats and Obama are. Therein, IMHO, is where our greatest dangers lie. If we become trapped in endless bickering, and constantly defending ourselves over the sundry issues now dividing conservatives – from Islam and racism to birther theories and assaulting “da won” over every movement and word… no matter how inconsequential – we lose momentum on issues where we clearly hold a formidable lead. It matters not how much truth there is to any of the controversies I mention, because all have the potential to become campaign fodder – designed and carefully spun to cast conservatives as heartless bigots, suffering from severe ODS, with a penchant for name calling and conspiracy theories.

The point is, Obama and the Democrats want nothing more than for the headlines and discussions to be about anything *but* the economy and our out of control debt. Without a strong economy, we lose our power in the world as the coveted market place, and our ability to maintain our superior military power… thereby forfeiting our national security. We do not strive to be like Euro-nations, dependent upon a future non-existent America for protection.

Rather, I believe that with every charge and distraction leveled by Obama, the Democrats, and the GOP itself, the response should be to return to conversation *immediately* to the economy and fiscal security of this nation – without rising to their challenge. No, Christine O’Donnell does *not* need to explain her witchcraft past, no more than Obama felt the need to explain his cocaine/marijuana use of the past, or his socialist/Marxist associations. O’Donnell needs to do exactly what she did – stay at home with her constituents, and pound home the need for fiscal discipline. She needs to focus on those who will bestow upon her the power to help stop the socialist avalanche.

Charlie Crist, Lisa Murkowski and other career “spoilers” need to know there are repercussions for putting their personal careers and power over the will of the voters. Conservatives and tea partiers need to entice their supporters into the fold, stripping the spoilers of any potential of sabotage. These mainstream GOPers want nothing more than to taunt the typical schoolyard chant… “na naa nanaaaaa naaaaaaaa” INRE the Buckley rule. We need to make sure they have no chance of doing that.

In short, it’s time to rally the diverse troops. While the conservatives and tea party members remain unquestionably united, it’s long overdue to approach RINOs and Reagan Democrats for support on the fiscal principles we share. There remain many issues upon which we are far apart, but those need to be deliberately tabled, and a combined force created that is built upon our common ground of economic recovery. Just as various factions of the global Islamic jihad movement temporarily unite to fight a common enemy, we need to do the same.

Yes, this election is truly one of the most important in our nation’s existence. I certainly hope that the voters will not disappoint with their choices. If we, as a nation, win, we’ll wake up on Nov 3rd, and found that we’ve put both major political parties in a “time out” corner. Better late than never.

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MATA: hi, I also wanted to compliment you on your post, and
THE picture you have chosen, very telling and pretty, by
THANK YOU.

@P B:

You clearly sound like a Phelps Baptist.

@ Ilovebeeswarzone:

Hi there; of course you may be right and I may be wrong, we’re both human and we can be in error about our assessments, and that includes both of us.

The heated discussion taking place here is due to the fact that all of us have different perceptions about America, Americans and its immediate (like the 2010 November elections, the 2012 Presidential elections) and its distant (say ten years down the road) future, and we try to obtain feedback on these perceptions. In doing so, some of our deeply held beliefs are being challenged, and this unsettles us. As a result, some resort to offensive name calling, foul language etc, and others to various types of psychological warfare, but at the end all is done in good humor and somehow we get that feedback.

I have explained at length why I currently can not support Sarah Palin (and the Libertarian wing of the Conservative movement); in short, because she isn’t the kind of Christian I would have liked her to be. Were she that, then she might have had the chance to do something for America; as it stands now, she’s as good as any one of the rest.

@ Missy: are you Chrissy Matthews in disguise? Is this exchange to continue? I hope not.

@AC:

That white paper (which I would have loved to produce and publish) will cost you my ongoing rate: $500/hour; I estimate to take about ten hours to finish, for a total of US$5,000.00 To that total, please add 25% overhead cost (i.e., $1,250.00) for a Grand Total of $6,250.00). I accept all credit cards, a personal or bank check.

What is Governor Sarah Palin’s position on homosexuality and homosexual rights including, but not limited to, gay marriage and civil unions?

PALIN: Well, not if it goes closer and closer towards redefining the traditional definition of marriage between one man and one woman. And unfortunately that’s sometimes where those steps lead. I don’t support defining marriage as anything but between one man and one woman, and I think through nuances we can go round and round about what that actually means. I’m being as straight up with Americans as I can in my non- support for anything but a traditional definition of marriage.

Q: Let’s try to avoid nuance. Do you support gay marriage?

BIDEN: No. We do not support that. That is a decision to be able to be left to faiths.

PALIN: My answer is the same as his and it is that I do not.
Source: 2008 Vice Presidential debate Oct 2, 2008

Ms. Palin said she supported Alaska’s decision to amend its Constitution to ban same-sex marriage. But she used her first veto as governor to block a bill that would have prohibited the state from granting health benefits to same-sex partners of public employees. Ms. Palin said she vetoed the bill because it was unconstitutional, but raised the possibility of amending the state Constitution so the ban could pass muster.
Source: New York Times, pp. A1 & A10, “An Outsider Who Charms” Aug 29, 2008

Governor Sarah Palin today announced that, per the recent ruling of the Supreme Court of Alaska, the State of Alaska’s regulations are in effect to begin providing state benefits to same sex partners beginning January 1, 2007. “The Supreme Court has ordered adoption of the regulations by the State of Alaska to begin providing benefits January 1,” said Governor Palin. “We have no more judicial options. We may disagree with the rationale behind the ruling, but our responsibility is to proceed forward with the law and follow the Constitution.“

What is Governor Sarah Palin’s position regarding the use of marijuana and other recreational drugs?

Palin doesn’t support legalizing marijuana, worrying about the message it would send to her four kids. But when it comes to cracking down on drugs, she says methamphetamines are the greater threat and should have a higher priority.
Source: Anchorage Daily News, “Little play,” by K. Hopkins Aug 6, 2006

Palin said she has smoked marijuana–remember, it was legal under state law, she said, even if illegal under U.S. law–but says she didn’t like it and doesn’t smoke it now. Palin adds, “I can’t claim a Bill Clinton and say that I never inhaled.”
Source: Anchorage Daily News, “Little play,” by K. Hopkins Aug 6, 2006

@ P B, What is your disguise? We get a lot of Angry Little Men and Angry Little Girls that post here like painting their graffiti on public restroom walls. Expect to be challenged, cite sources and see opinions that differ from yours.FA is just that kinda place.

Your Marathon discussion leads me to inquire, how did you find FA and why are you angry?
If Sarah Palin let you down, save that for her. If you are one of those that stay away from the voting booth, why piss on everyone’s boots here? How about that Bucko? You can’t Vote here.

Why not go vote, because your commentary will never make a difference like casting a vote.

Just asking. You seem to be literate and have done some homework. Remember that old Ivory Soap Ad about 98.9% Pure?

Politics soils you and no Politician will be clean or pure enough for you.

Don’t quiz me on the Constitution or quiz Mata on SCOTUS decisions as both She and Aye read the whole thing and not the Cliffs Notes version.

If you need a job, come up to Montana. I need some smart folks that are handy with a pitchfork and a shovel. If you can ride a horse or tend cattle that pays more but I do not pay my folks to play on the internet. I don’t hire Masked Men BTW…

OK?

@ Randy… on Custer you have that right. My ancestors destroyed the “US 7th By God US Cavalry” but I send the Lakota Sioux beef cattle every year for meat. About 60 head of Montana grass fed Herefords and I have read Palin’s book and agree with her 98%

I will send you an email later on for a conference at my place, a “campfire” as such but a weeks worth of “redemption” and good grub on what I consider the Final Frontier of Capitalism.

@OT2:

This cracks me up; I wonder what you mean by “tolerance” here? That’s rhetorical, don’t bother responding.

As for the job offer, I’m fine in retirement, thanx – go look for a non-angry pony among other “conservatives” commenting here. But I’ll tell you what: since I love digging, and I understand Montana has some nice duck billed dinosaur speciments, I may take you up on your offer sometime – if it comes with free lodging.

Well, PB must be a Democrat since he wants everything for free but get paid $500/hr for work!

@P B:

I’m done, my little exercise is over. Just as I suspected, for someone so critical of Sarah Palin’s conservative values, that someone wasn’t above engaging in childish, tit for tat, name calling.

Noticed a bit of it with your earlier exchange with Mata, and then Aye….. just checking to see how far you would go, you didn’t disappoint. 😆

And….IMHO, on tolerance and temper, you’ve got issues, Sarah’s sure got you beat there, yes, she sure does.

Sarah Palin on Abortion

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Sarah_Palin_Abortion.htm

Your other Palin issues have been addressed above. Thanks for playing. 😉

@ all of you folks:

I just forgot to answer OT2’s question and to reveal my “cover” …

Well, the NSA and the local branch of the FBI, as well as the European branch of the CIA sent me here, to spy on and agitate all of you. My code name is “Democrat.”

Now that we cleared that up, let me respond to my new friend Mata Harley (I sincerely like you, and I’m sure my wife won’t mind me saying so, although she got pissed when someone – I forget now who, ie., first, called me a “bigot” here so much so that she asked me to stop posting, but I calmed her down telling her that all this is done in good humor), well I don’t mind you sharing this info about me with the rest.

You all have a lovely evening – we’re going for dinner to some friend’s house to continue the analysis of the current events there. Ta ta.

BTW, James F and P.B. are one and the same person, two different computers in our home.

JAMES F: hi, so you are P B also?, do you do that all the time to good AMERICANS?,
do’nt you have enough with the ennemys of AMERICA?, it did look strange,to read
a no compromise person. AND what do you do with this?
SO the DEMOCRATS are using under the belt tactics with your agency,
HOW low can they be, and you should have enough work without doing that
on your own. bye

@ FA readers they are both bogus. Jimmy F and PB are to be ignored or OMG banned!

Dirty socks! PB tried to “salt the mine” at FA and I saw it.

Jim B and Judith B, my neighbors are good folks.

In two weeks from now a “bonfire” can be possible, on the frontier of Capitalism and NOT Capitulation.

@P B:

That white paper (which I would have loved to produce and publish) will cost you my ongoing rate: $500/hour

Yeah, you probably don’t want to be holding your breath eagerly awaiting the arrival of the postman with your check there pardner. Wouldn’t want you to get light headed, fall over, and hit your head.

What I will point out is that you’ve unwittingly proven another of my theories about you. You don’t have the stonz to engage and back up what you’re typing.

In other words, your keyboard is writing checks your azz can’t cash and in the process you’re getting yourself kicked from one side of these pages to the other.

You’re not the first piece of overedumakated riffraff to wash ashore here. You won’t likely be the last either.

Personally, I don’t think you’re a Conservative at all. With the far outside the mainstream extremist, intolerant, and bigoted positions you’ve expressed toward homosexuals and Islam it’s becoming more and more apparent that you’re nothing more than just another concern troll dispatched by your keepers with instructions to stir up trouble on the Interwebz.

You wouldn’t be the first of those we’ve seen here either, and you’re certainly not the best. Too bad for you that we, The Great Unwashed,TM are smart enough to recognize you a mile away.

Over and over again you stated that Palin has espoused “liberal” views regarding homosexuality, Islam, and marijuana.

In spite of repeated requests to support your contentions, you’ve done nothing.

Instead, multiple members of The Great UnwashedTM have done your work for you, laying out a veritable smorgasbord of Palin’s statements on the very positions with which you are attempting, very poorly, to besmirch her on.

Frankly, the Palin statements and positions that have been quoted by others, due to your laziness and intransigence, in the posts above are not at all liberal.

Once again, just as with the “Establishment Clause” issue, you’ve put your your veracity into question.

So, dig in to those policy positions from Mrs. Palin as provided above and let’s see how you do.

Let’s see if you’re worth even a nickle per hour.

So far, you’ve proven to be worth bupkis.

Randy, contrary to accepted belief, cavalry units used the advantage of speed to get into a good position and then dismounted to fight. Losing one trooper out of five to hold horses during the firefight. Horses are generally unpredictable under the stress of battle.

Jeb Stuart, the last great cavalry general cavalier, a different breed than NB Forrest (my favorite) engaged in a meaningless cavalry battle before Gettysburg and deprived Lee of his scouts, an action that condemned the battle and the war; although, it was the largest cavalry battle fought on American soil. Horses are a tactical advantage, offering speed in deployment, but their value diminishes quickly in the chaos of battle. Saber strokes are inefficient, carbine and pistol accuracy is wishful thinking and even maintaining control can be challenging. I am sure many troopers who were expected to hold 5 or 6 horses behind the lines were wishing they were deployed on the front lines once the rifles and cannons started firing.

It may be imprudent to judge whether the decision to dismount for battle was given too early. I have toured the battle field twice and judged the situation about the same as I did Lee at Gettysburg, that is to say, “What the Hell were they thinking?” Of course it is much easier to be a Sunday morning quarterback. I am relying on having an intimate knowledge of the horse and having learned to ride (Jumpers) and shoe from a former US cavalryman, who had known troopers who had fought in the Indian Wars.

One of my favorite subjects

@ Skookum,…Airborne Infantry arrives in less than 72 hours and is careful… 😉

OT: Thank goodness! We don’t have that many guys that can hold onto 5 or 6 horses that are leaping and diving. (I have a hard time with one at a time) It’s worse when they get really scared and run over the top of you. Airborne has the distinct advantage of not delegating 20% of their troopers to hold horses. You’ve probably heard how Obama likes to play politics with troop strength: we just can’t waste that kind of troop strength with Obama calling the shots.

@ OT2 (and whom ever it may concern at FA):

Oh, yes, you’ve got it – you are such a smart fellow, too smart for me; I came to “salt the mine” indeed, but I found so much dung in it, it didn’t work.

I’m out of here. Too much paranoia for me to deal with, coupled with so much “tolerance.”

Some here need professional help.

Skook, Reno’s mission was to draw the fighters away from the women and children. When Bloody Knife’s brains were spattered all over his face, Reno lost all composure and retreated in a very irregular manner. He had lost only one man at that point. The indian accounts described their chasing down Reno’s company like chasing and striking down rabbits.

The fire at the Little Bighorn in the 1980s allowed an indepth archaeological survey that added a lot of information to previous thoughts as to what had happened. I f Reno had not dismounted and orderly retreated in fromt of the fighters, he would not have been flanked and could have retreated back to the ford instead of crossing in a deep part of the river.

The lesson I learned from the battle field walk is never go to war or do anything meaningful with people you can not trust at your back!

Randy, excellent history lesson, my tours were in the 70’s, it sounds like I am behind times to be sure. Of course, I have empathy for the difficulty of the dismount and assumption of a skirmish line. I had assumed the possibility of the necessity to dismount and the chaos that ensued.

If the CO panicked and discipline broke down, disaster was the result.

Not doing anything meaningful without people you can trust at your back, that is a telling remark. I don’t trust the men who lead us. The officers at the Little Big Horn were experienced from the Civil War and in the Indian Wars; however, the ferocity or sheer numbers of the opposition caused a breakdown and massacre. What will we do if our leaders break ranks in face of the opposition?

I think I will have an opportunity to tour the battlefield again this next year. I seem to remember the claim that the horses had been spooked. Of course, if the horses are gone the unit has no choice, but to fight for survival, even if the line doesn’t break.

I doubt that we have courageous leaders who are willing to stand up to formidable odds: sadly, I think they are likely to capitulate at the first opportunity, if they are not in league with our enemy. This is the confidence they inspire.

I sure believe that the FBI have more class than this person,who lied all the way,
SO he is still lying representing the DEMOCRATS.
and FBI

PB must have stood for “Pure Bullsh*t.” My bet is that that this sock-puppet only poses as a “conservative” so that they can put out a fabricated, ridiculous pseudo-conservative line of cr*p. Just like those fake Tea Party infiltrators, and hoping that they could get some readers to buy the BS. My opinion is block this putz so they don’t waste our time correcting their tripe.

MATA
HI, THIS POST OF YOUR’ ES IS PERFECT FOR TODAY’S EXPECTATIONS ON 28 APRIL 2012,
WE WILL ENCOUNTER SOME PB, AND WE WILL TAKE THE LESSONS WE LEARNED HERE
WITH JAMES F,
BY THE WAY JAMES YOU WOULDN’T BE ONE OF THOSE IN COLUMBIA?
HOPE NOT BECAUSE YOU MUST BE FIRED BY NOW,
TELL ME, HOW DOES THE SECRET SERVICES WILL MANAGE TO BE DOING A GOOD JOB WITH SO MANY GONE? SHOULD WE BE WORRY THAT INFILTRATORS COULD BE WAITING JUST FOR THAT OPEN DOOR TO SNEAK IN, YOU GUYS KNOW THEY ARE MASTER OF DISGUISE AND KNOW THAT JOB WELL ENOUGH TO HAVE GET Y’ALL IN THE CLING, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN PREPARE LONG BEFORE THE PRESIDENT TRIP TO COLOMBIA, HOW DO WE EXPECT NOT TO DISCOVER ANY TRICK FROM GOVERNMENT IF YOU ALL AS SECRET AGENT GET FOOLED BY SKEEMS LIKE THAT,
NOW IT’S THE TIME FOR YOU ALL TO LEVEL WITH THE PEOPLE BEFORE ANYONE ELSE,
AND TELL US THAT YOU STUPIDLY GOT LURED INTO THAT LIKE SCHOOL BOYES WITH THEIR FIRST
DESIRE FOR SEX.