There will be no recovery as long as Obama is President [Reader Post]

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3/13/2010

WASHINGTON (AP) – Confronting misgivings, even in his own party, President Barack Obama mounted a stout defense of his blueprint to overhaul the economy Thursday, declaring the national crisis is “not as bad as we think” and his plans will speed recovery.

Barack Obama recently named Austan Goolsbee, the wanna-be comedian, to lead the Council of Economic Advisers. Goolsbee tells America that unemployment will remain high for, well, likely as long as Obama remains President:

“I don’t think the unemployment rate will be coming down significantly at any time in the near future,” according to POLITICO’s Mike Allen.

Obama has described Goolsbee as

“…someone who has a deep appreciation of how the economy affects everyday people,”

Sounds great, if only you could believe it. Goolsbee is just another policy wonk who has zero experience in the real business world. He is the perfect fit for the Obama administration.

But Goolsbee doesn’t hold a candle to Larry Summers or Tim Geithner. Summers, a key player in the first stimulus package, is often described as a genius, but his genius seems to lie in his crystal clear hindsight.

He was all for a stimulus package in late 2008, but in 2001 argued against stimulus spending:

“The idea that a huge spending program is the way to stimulate the economy, or the idea that the way to get better at high tech is for the government to take over the technology industries, these kinds of ideas basically have become passe because they’ve been disproven,”

He is described as foreseeing the mortgage crisis;

“Three months ago it was reasonable to expect that the subprime credit crisis would be a financially significant event but not one that would threaten the overall pattern of economic growth. This is still a possible outcome but no longer the preponderant probability,”

Yet Summers was an architect of that crisis.

In 1998 Brooksley Born, chair of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, decided that derivatives ought to be regulated but encountered a buzzsaw of opposition:

She ran into a firewall called the Working Group: Alan Greenspan, chairman of the Federal Reserve, Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, Assistant Treasury Secretary Larry Summers and SEC chairman Arthur Levitt. Rubin, Levitt, Summers and Greenspan lobbied Congress to pass a law to stop Born and strip her agency of its regulatory power, which they did after working her over in committee hearings. She ended up resigning, feeling that she could not do what she believed was her job to, because that power had been stripped away in what seemed like the seediest of manners.

The guy who argued that new bank reforms would end “too big to fail” is the same guy who made “too big to fail” possible:

As a 1999 New York Times article entitled “Congress Passes Wide-Ranging Bill Easing Bank Laws” quotes Summers as saying:

”Today Congress voted to update the rules that have governed financial services since the Great Depression and replace them with a system for the 21st century,” Treasury Secretary Lawrence H. Summers said. ”This historic legislation will better enable American companies to compete in the new economy.”

In an eerily prescient article, Mark Ames predicted the mess that Summers would create

We all know in the backs of our minds that Barack Obama’s incredible victory will eventually be followed by disappointment. But does it have to come so soon, and hit so hard? The answer will be yes, if Lawrence Summers is named treasury secretary in the president-elect’s cabinet, as many observers believe will be the case. Summers was one of the key architects of our financial crisis — hiring him to fix the economy makes as much sense as appointing Paul Wolfowitz to oversee the Iraq withdrawal. And when you look at the trail of economic destruction Summers left behind in other crisis-stricken countries who sought his advice in the past, then “terror” might be a more appropriate word than “disappointment.”

And two weeks later:

Obama picks Summers as top economic adviser

Summers, who uses Google searches as a means of measuring economic progress

The number of people searching for the term “economic depression” on Google is down to normal levels, Summers said.

made his own predictions about the effect of the stimulus:

“Given lags in spending and hiring, the peak impact of the stimulus on jobs was expected not to be achieved until the end of 2010,” Summers said in a speech at the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington.

Unemployment is at 9.6% and Goolsbee says there’s basically no hope in sight.

Obama’s chief economic adviser is largely responsible for putting the US into its current financial crisis.

But more importantly, Summers is the guy responsible for:

•Allowing the banks to carry extraordinary levels of debt, thirty-to-one fractional reserve banking margins

•Ensuring that derivatives were not regulated, and that AIG could operate as a giant hedge fund
•Repealing New Deal era legislation which separated investment banks from commercial banks, insurers and stock brokers, and which kept companies from becoming “too big to fail”

And Obama’s Treasury Secretary- the guy who can’t figure out Turbo Tax?? His job was to keep an eye on CitiGroup:

As president of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, Timothy Geithner often preached that gargantuan financial firms like Citigroup should be held to the highest regulatory standards to make sure they couldn’t take on too much risk.

But when it came to supervising Citigroup in recent years, the record shows that the New York Fed eased the reins as the company blew billions on subprime mortgages and other risky deals that ultimately forced the biggest bank rescue in U.S. history.

Two of the biggest failures in financial history are in charge of our financial future.

The stimulus has failed.

This discussion would be remiss in not including a fun snippet from J. Bradford Delong, a virulently anti-Republican economist:

On the phone just now, Larry Summers just moved me appreciably toward enthusiastic support of the stimulus package by arguing, roughly:

•The big arguments against the stimulus package are two:
◦It will become a destructive lobbyist Christmas tree
◦It will increase the deficit and yet fail to stimulate the economy

And that second argument?

The second argument is incoherent

The much-heralded financial reform law left two huge loopholes for derivatives and Fannie and Freddie are still “too big to fail.”

To paraphrase Einstein, insanity is enlisting the aid of the same people who caused this mess in the hopes of a different outcome.

Goolsbee can always go back to stand-up.

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Obama is taking our economy back to 1939. If he gets his way all the Soviet five year plans ad infinitem won’t bring it back. He will destroy this nation if allowed to do so. Time to make him and his minions go bye bye.

If the GOP controls ONE house of congress, there will be an economic recovery. The recent stock market rally is pricing in a GOP victory in Nov.

Yep. Obviously a better approach to economic recovery is to:

(1) give the wealthiest–who are already sitting on the biggest heap of money in American history–another round of tax cuts, at a cost of hundreds of billions per year in increased deficits;

(2) deny tax relief to everyone else if you can’t get the first item, by seeing to it that their taxes will be raised by default; and

(3) block budget-neutral legislation that provides tax relief and encourages new lines of credit to America’s small businesses for as long as possible–even though many of your own ideas have been incorporated into that legislation.

Greg the braindead shows why the left will lose big in Nov. The left is incapable of doing anything but pushing theit socialist agenda. No matter how badly it fails, they insist they need to do it again, but even bigger than last time.
They are like a skipping record. Tax the rich, tax the rich, tax the rich…

“No matter how badly it fails, they insist they need to do it again, but even bigger than last time.”

I believe you’ve just summed up my chief concern about the current republican agenda.

@Greg

I believe you’ve just summed up my chief concern about the current republican agenda.

Yours may be a concern, while we know for certain the liberal economic model does not work. It seems Europe knows this too, as well as China, hence their move towards capitalism and away from socialist programming.

Whoops, a Mutiny on the Good Ship Lollipop!

House Democrats Join Republicans in Opposing Obama Tax Plan

WASHINGTON — More Democrats joined Republicans on Wednesday in calling for the preservation of tax breaks for Americans of every income level, bolting this election season from President Barack Obama’s plan to preserve cuts for families who earn less than $250,000 and let taxes rise for the wealthiest Americans.

But Obama placed the blame for the stalled proposal squarely on Republicans.

“They want to hold these middle class tax cuts hostage until they get an additional tax cut for the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans,” the president said in afternoon remarks.

“Doesn’t it make sense for us to move forward with the tax cuts that we all agree on?” Obama added. “We should be able to extend, right now, middle-class tax relief on the first $250,000 of income.”

Nervous Democrats are among those with concerns about the president’s plan.

::snip::

“If we’re serious about helping our economy this month we need to stop the tax hikes, and we need to cut spending,” Boehner said.

The expiring tax cuts are the most sweeping in a generation, affecting taxpayers at every income level. Obama wants to make the tax cuts permanent for individuals making less than $200,000 and married couples making less than $250,000.

Republicans support a full renewal of all tax cuts, regardless of income, despite a 10-year cost to the government of about $700 billion above Obama’s plan.

Outstanding! Let them try to push their Agenda before the Elections!

Duhh!

It seems to me that if Obama is trying to pass a new $50 billion dollar “stimulus” plan, mentioned earlier this month, does he not know that he is talking out of both of his orifices?

Here’s the problem. Today there’s news that the Dems will not venture to vote for Obama’s tax ideas; namely cutting off the tax breaks for millionaires, while leaving tax incentives for those earning $200,000 or less. Not with an election coming up; which Dems are already losing big time.

Obama said that he does not want to extend the tax breaks for the wealthy because it would cost $700 Billion dollars and amount to about $100,000 per wealthy taxpayer. These are his numbers, I guess. But here’s the problem. Obama says that the $700 Billion would not do much to help the economy. It is too little relief.

What I say is what I’ve always said since Obama took (or stole) office; and that is that Obama does not know what the heck he’s saying at anytime of the day on anything he chooses to talk about.

If $700 Billion will not serve to stir the economy, then what the heck, or why the heck, is Obama promoting a $50 Billion dollar plan? If $700 Billion won’t do anything, can you image what a pittance $50 Billion in tax relief won’t do.

I’m not kidding when I say that having Obama decide anything at all, especially on economic issues, is like having an exceedingly drunk driver trying to steer a vehicle.

America cannot afford to have increased taxes at a time when so many prices are going up. The sizes of products are shrinking. And there are layoffs, firings, cutbacks, bankruptcies, record breaking business failures and foreclosures. Obama is DUMB to all of this. What we need are tax cuts across the board. Wealthy individuals and businesses are the ones who hire, not the poor, and right now we need to incentivize these folks.

In truth, right now, the best thing that could happen in America is the resignation or removal of Obama. There is no room in our America for Obama’s socialist policies and the overwhelming support by voters of conservatives running for congress is proof that America needs to get back on the RIGHT track.

Greenspan: Stimulus package “worked far less than expected

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/09/15/greenspan-stimulus-package-worked-far-less-than-expected/

The former head of the Federal Reserve said fiscal stimulus efforts have fallen far short of expectations, and the government now needs to get out of the way and allow businesses and markets to power the recovery.

“We have to find a way to simmer down the extent of activism that is going on” with government stimulus spending “and allow the economy to heal” itself, former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan told a gathering held at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York on Wednesday.

At this point, “we’d probably be better off doing less than more” because “you’d be far better off to allow the normal market forces to operate here,” Greenspan said. That’s largely because stimulus spending is not proving as effective as many had hoped. “To the extent the evidence suggests very large deficits concurrently crowd out capital investment, there is a debit to the stimulus program that is somewhere between a third and a half of what the gross stimulus is,” he said.

Greenspan isn’t the only person speaking out on the failure of the stimulus package. Paul Otellini, who runs a little business called Intel, says that the main problem in the economy are the massive uncertainties introduced by the Obama administration is acting as a drag on investment. Furthermore, long-term economic growth does not come from building swimming pools in Mississippi

“The decisions so far have not resulted in either job growth or increased confidence. When what you’re doing isn’t working you rethink it and I think we need to rethink some plans,” he said at the Intel Developers Forum in San Francisco. …

But Otellini said the $787 billion economic stimulus package passed last year has not done enough to solve problems in the job market. He argued that money not yet spent from that program might be better off allocated elsewhere and took the administration to task for focusing on short-term projects.

“It doesn’t seem to be working the way it is. Swimming pools in Mississippi are not going to create lasting jobs.”

Otellini says that the results from the Democratic Congress and the Obama administration still don’t get it. They’re sinking billions of dollars into 19th-century infrastructure like trains while ignoring what really gets investors interested in the US. Otellini also rejects the new proposal from Obama on the second stimulus, scoffing at a one-year R&D investment credit. The R&D cycle last for years, and a single-year tax credit will not incentivize businesses to start multi-year projects. It will only inject more uncertainty into the business environment.

Be sure to listen to all of Otellini’s advice. Unfortunately, if you do, you’ll be far ahead of this White House.

Greenspan, 1967: ” The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves.”

So there you have it Folks. A Billion $$$ here, a Billion $$$ there and after a while you are talking about a whole lot of borrowed money being pissed away by the most Economically Illiterate Regime and POTUS ever.

Rev II

OLD TROOPER 2: hi, YES and they where warned from the beginning, not to go this way
WARNED by EXPERTS and very knowledgeble peoples.

@ ilovebeeswarzone, Absolutely, every American school kid knows that you can’t go to the candy store with 5 cents and buy $20.00 worth of candy. But then the Current Congress and Regime are spending OPM, Other Peoples Money.

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money. ”
— Margaret Thatcher

OLD TROOPER EXACTLY true, YEARS ago ,I had an uncle who was always borrowing money,
from each one he could get,and we learned that he was known to be very generous with his friends,
and he would never pay back the one he owe it to, I was so angry to learn that,
I decide to go after him and demand the money for the lenders who where taking it from their budget to help him. that was a good learning lesson, when later I encounter another one
with same attitude, to spend other people’s money on trivial expanses,
IT seems that there is many of those in power jobs,out to ruin the PEOPLE, but
IT take only one to transfer his MENTALITY to other to follow him toward destruction

Top headline on FOX this morning: “Home Foreclosures Jumped to Their Highest Rate Since Crisis Began”. More evidence the Stimulus Prgram has done a real outstanding job. It’ll be interesting to see how the administration and their sheep spin this one.

@Old Trooper 2:

I’m going to e-mail your post to family and friends, hope it circulates far and wide. 😉

I wonder if MR BUFFET and BILL GATE are still friendly with THE LEADERSHIP of the DEMOCRATS
AND their ACCOMPLICES.

@ another vet…Not to worry, Pardner…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

The man is an absolute genius…

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@ Missy, Just another rainy day at my spread, temps in the 50s so I have the time to reflect on the Current Regime’s achievements and wonder what they will pull out of their backsides today.

We know what has happened so far…

The destruction of the nation, the economy, the financial sector and the trampling of our liberty are DELIBERATE!!! That’s why there will be no recovery with Hussein in the Whitey House!! I hope to GOD people are finally beginning to understand that !

@Old Trooper 2:

Well, it’s raining here too so I will have time to roast that turkey I was supposed to do yesterday when I had to much to do outside.

Wondering what they are going to “pull out of their backsides next?”

No recovery as long as Obama is President and Harry Reid remains Senate Majority Leader:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has hit a new low by slipping an amnesty plan for illegal immigrants into a defense funding bill. In effect, he’s holding U.S. troops hostage to advance his own political career.

Longtime members of the Senate Armed Services Committee are shuddering at the way the defense budget has become a Christmas tree for political ornaments. Since last year, Democrats have used appropriations for U.S. troops in Afghanistan to attach riders that couldn’t otherwise pass muster.

Now Reid has hung the ugliest ornament of them all — the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act — and has scheduled a vote on it next week.

“This is an all-time low for me being in the Senate, and that’s saying something,” committee member Lindsay Graham told Foreign Policy magazine. “The one area that’s been kept off limits from partisan politics has been the defense of our nation. To say that you’re going to bring up a defense bill and put the DREAM Act on it … to me is very offensive.”

But Reid, D-Nev., apparently couldn’t care less. He sees a political payoff — for himself — by offering amnesty to the children of illegal immigrants via the DREAM Act in a bid to energize the Latino vote.

As representative of the state with the highest number of illegal immigrants (as well as the highest unemployment rate at 14.2%), Reid is hoping he can break away from Republican challenger Sharron Angle in his own dead-heat reelection race by delivering amnesty to that constituency.

He’s also betting that Republicans will be forced to go along because of their strong support of the military. Reid has also slipped in a second rider, this one for ending the Pentagon’s “don’t ask-don’t tell” policy on gay servicemen without waiting for the military’s input.

Both riders stand to wreak havoc in the U.S. if this bill passes. The act is outright amnesty for the children of illegal immigrants, and offers a no-penalty path to citizenship for anyone connected with them.

It says that any child of an illegal who arrives in the U.S. before age 16, spends five years here and completes two years of college or military service in a six-year span without felonies gets a green card ahead of others who have waited patiently for their papers.

They will have access to taxpayer-funded loans and grants, and may crowd out children of U.S. citizens at state and community colleges. They are not required to pay back the loans, learn English or maintain a decent GPA. They can start the process up to age 35, and get six years to finish a mere two years of college or military service.

And once they’ve been granted citizenship, they can bring all their relatives to the U.S. in what will be the mother of chain migrations.

Even worse, there’s no cutoff date on when an illegal immigrant can begin the process, so the bill becomes a dinner triangle to would-be immigrants everywhere to ship their teenagers to the states before they turn 16. Mexican cartels that smuggle illegals for $10,000 a pop must be slavering at the possible new business.

Thanks to an effective propaganda campaign based on sob stories from immigrant lobbies, most of these facts about the DREAM Act aren’t well-known. But make no mistake: The legislation as written amounts to amnesty for almost everyone.

This may be why, despite the measure being around the Senate for seven years, it has never garnered enough votes for passage. It has come close, but public opposition has stopped it when the facts are made known. That should be the result when Reid selfishly tries to get away with it again next week.

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/547416/201009151907/Reids-DREAM-Rider.htm

@ DrJohn…or you have grifters like Maxine Waters that would Nationalize the Candy manufacturers and hand it out on street corners for future votes. 😉

MISSY: hi, HARRY REID is showing WHO he is with that bill, hopfully no rooted AMERICAN would allowe that to be past and the REPUBLICANS should not see any goodys there for the MILITARYS,
THIS show how low they will go to sacrifice the AMERICANS and the MILITARYS at war, getting hurt and dying for their country, HOPE SHARON expose that person to be corrupt not fit to serve AMERICA’s interest , and has never been before. how low can he get, and he did,
GO SHARRON ANGLE, GET him out FOR THE SAKE OF AMERICA THE BEAUTIFULL.

Ummm Greg, the GOP wants to do what has worked in the past to stimulate the economy and provide more freedom to the people. I’m not surprised you have a problem with that.

, #23:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has hit a new low by slipping an amnesty plan for illegal immigrants into a defense funding bill.

Was it considered a new low when republicans previously voted to do the same thing with the same plan? Senators Orrin Hatch and Bob Bennett of Utah both voted in favor of adding the bill to the defense authorization bill only 3 years ago.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/50292492-76/act-dream-bill-hatch.html.csp

The Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act was originally introduced and sponsored by Senator Hatch during the 107th Congress, as S.1291. There were 6 republican co-sponsors:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s107-1291

Senator Hatch sponsored it again during the 108th Congress, as S.1545. There were 5 republican co-sponsors.

It was introduced and sponsored during the 109th Congress by Senator Richard Durbin, a democrat, as S.774. There were 5 republican co-sponsors.

It was introduced by Durbin this time around, too, but now there’s only one republican co-sponsor, who apparently hasn’t gotten word yet about the menace of undocumented kids who want to attend college or go into the military to serve the country they’ve found themselves growing up in.

@ Greg, More than a few Thousand have Served in the Military, became Citizens and now have GI Bill Benefits to attend University, Community College or Voc Tech Institutes as “Citizens” that are valued members of society.

So..what is your point?

This is what happens when you send a boy to do a man’s job. Our MSM must share the blame for 0-bama and his failures. It was they who failed to do their job and tell America how out of touch and un qualified this guy was. He’s too stupid to know it.

@OldTrooper2, #29:

“So..what is your point?”

My point is that I don’t think it’s a bad bill. Neither did a lot of republicans. The bill hasn’t really changed much. What’s happened is that partisan political posturing is distorting perception. Some things that should matters of common concern and agreement aren’t, simply because of politics.

@ Greg, there is a Legal pathway to Citizenship. Reid and others are just pandering for votes.
Just writing more Laws is foolish and a waste of time. It is a cheap political stunt no matter Who backs it.

How about that Summer of Recovery and getting a Bang for the Taxpayer’s Buck?

L.A.: $111M in Stimulus Saved Just 55 Jobs

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/16/los-angeles-official-disappointed-city-used-stimulus-funds/

More than a year after Congress
approved $800 billion in stimulus funds, the Los Angeles city controller has released a 40-page report on how the city spent its share, and the results are not living up to expectations.

“I’m disappointed that we’ve only created or retained 55 jobs after receiving $111 million,” said Wendy Greuel, the city’s controller. “With our local unemployment rate over 12 percent we need to do a better job cutting red tape and putting Angelenos back to work.”

According to the audit, the Los Angeles Department of Public Works spent $70 million in stimulus funds — in return, it created seven private sector jobs and saved seven workers from layoffs. Taxpayer cost per job: $1.5 million.

The Los Angeles Department of Transportation created even fewer jobs per dollar, spending $40 million but netting just nine jobs. Taxpayer cost per job: $4.4 million.

Greuel blamed the dismal numbers on several factors:

Aug. 13: Several thousand people protest demanding jobs outside City Hall in Los Angeles.

1. Bureaucratic red tape: Four highway projects did not even go out to bid until seven months after they were authorized.

2. Projects that were supposed to be competitively bid in the private sector went instead went to city workers.

3. Stimulus money was not properly tracked within departments

4. Both departments could not report the jobs created and retained in a timely fashion..

“I would say maybe in a grade, a B- in creating the jobs,” Greuel told Fox News. “They have started to spend those dollars but it took seven months to get some of those contracts out. We think in the city that we should move quickly and not in the same usual bureaucratic ways.”

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I’d give them an F. 111 Million $$$ for 55 Jobs? WTF?

OT:

I’d give them an F. 111 Million $$$ for 55 Jobs? WTF?

The wage scale is much higher in SoCal.

Besides it sounds like they are going to try much harder on Stimulus 2.

Don’t worry Pelosi, Waters, and Lee will be on the next stimulus. You can bet that all new outhouses will be two seaters, there is too much inefficiency in our government and it will take women of high principle to sort it out. Don’t forget we have Boxer and the other nitwit also, you can trust that every dime will be spent!

@ Skookum, I recall the tale of the two story outhouse. The taxpayers always seem to get the bottom floor. 😯

OT: You’re familiar with the term “Cheap Seats”.

@ Skookum, yeah like during the Clinton Regime, I got two for the price of one. Deployments to both Somalia and the old Yugo Republic but no frequent flyer miles. Actually front row seats to witness years of Foreign Policy failure. Some folks paid dearly for those deployments but I’m still
around to see more of the same from my patch of Montana high ground and not a patch of Rocks and Sand that God Forgot or a piece of Hell in Eastern Europe.

OLD TROOPER
today APRIL 28 2012 , time went by but today is equivalent of this POST,
AS IF SUSPENDED IN TIME.
EXCEPT FOR THE UNKNOWN