Obamacare Reality Brings Terror to Democrats [Reader Post]

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Here it comes:

Large American companies, already facing rising health care costs along with their employees, also are struggling to figure out how the new federal health care law will affect them.

Helen Darling of the National Business Group on Health cited a survey of 72 large companies, which acknowledged “we are in middle of transformation, a transformation of how health care is financed and delivered in this country,” she said.

The large companies said they expect their health care costs to rise next year by about 9 percent, 2 percent more than they rose this year. They attribute 1 percent of the 2 percent increase to the early provisions of the new health care law.

And where will the burden fall?

The companies have several strategies for dealing with increased costs and many say they’ll do what they have been doing — ask workers to pick up a larger share:

The folly of Obamacare is coming home to roost and it is scaring the bejesus out of Democrats, especially as the November election nears. Barack Obama promised us that Obamacare was going to cost us less:

The only thing we’re going to try to do is lower costs so that those cost savings are passed on to you. And we estimate we can cut average family’s premium by about $2,500 per year.

In the triumph of hope over reality, Democrats swallowed it without a thought. Doubling down on fantasy, Obama said that health care premiums would go down by 3000%, and that business owners would be handing out raises with the savings! For the moment, let’s ignore the simple absurdity of the claim by the Constitutional genius.

Nancy Pelosi said that health care reform would lower costs:

The measure “covers 96 percent of all Americans, and it puts affordable coverage in reach for millions of uninsured and underinsured families, lowering health care costs for all of us,” boasted Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., at a ceremony attended by dozens of Democratic lawmakers.

They told us over and over and over that forcing people to buy health insurance wasn’t a tax, and the suddenly it was.

Now Democrats want you to forget what they said.

Key White House allies are dramatically shifting their attempts to defend health care legislation, abandoning claims that it will reduce costs and deficit, and instead stressing a promise to “improve it.”

Politico got hold of a confidential presentation by FamiliesUSA, who originally pressed for the reform. Contained in it is the disavowal of the promises made by Democrats about the cost of the program:

The confidential presentation, available in full here and provided to POLITICO by a source on the call, suggests that Democrats are acknowledging the failure of their predictions that the health care legislation would grow more popular after its passage, as its benefits became clear and rhetoric cooled.

And in the presentation it makes clear what Democrats are to do:

“Don’t say the law will reduce costs and deficits.”

Now let’s repeat that. Let me be clear:

Don’t say the law will reduce costs and deficits.”

Don’t say that the law will reduce family health insurance costs by $2500.

Don’t say that health care cost preimums will be lowered by 3000%.

There is special language for Latinos, the elderly and non-college educated women. Apparently these groups confuse easily because they’re not buying into this farce.

For those under 40, use sob stories. They’re susceptible.

And for the love of God, don’t promise what they’re already promised:

“The law is not perfect, but it does good things and helps many people. Now we’ll work to improve it.”

David Freddoso recalls a combative Barack Obama:

“If Republicans want to campaign against what we’ve done… that is a fight I want to have.” – Barack Obama on health care, Jan. 14.

Be careful what you wish for, especially with the advent of the first death panel.

The more sane among us knew that what Democrats were promising was ridiculous. The lesser liberal intellectual lights insisted on the Pelosi Gambit:

“We have to pass the bill so you can find out what’s in it.”

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HusseinCare has ALWAYS been about power and control, never health or care.

I’ve met a number of people in my life, who were so smart, they were stupid.

They convinced themselves of things which were easily prooven to be false… and now are stuck..

Its like the economists who somehow believe they can spend their way out of debt…

Or that somehow a bigger Governmental drag on the economy, helps the economy…

So dumb…

The burden is on the Kulaks, the American Business owners large and small.

Ask Skookum about the fate of Kulacks. He knows about it.

If You personally *own* a business, property or assets that neither the State or the meddlesome Congress, Obama Czars or other Treasonous folks control…Hang onto your guns, gold, wallets and be ready for the rollercoaster ride that will follow…

I am an American Kulak by definition by Lenin, Saul Alinsky and every one of the current Obama Socialist Regime.

If You are an American Kulack buy ammunition, firearms and I wish you the best of good luck.

Still up on Montana high ground and preparing for Winter.

Take Care FA Folks and Patriots!

I’m a college educated old lady who happens to be a medical professional. I also speak Spanish. Let me be perfectly clear: Health INSURANCE is NOT Health CARE. And I’m not buying any, no matter what they call it! This is what I have to say to Obama and the thieves currently running Congress:

MAKE ME

Ignore the new health care law and do whatever the hell we like. Screw Osh_ithead and his f’ng agenda!

Read the report yourself at http://www.businessgrouphealth.org/pdfs/Plan%20Design%20Survey%20Report%20Public.pdf

Pay very close attention to the wording throughout–such as, “Although 72 companies completed the survey, they did not find all the questions directly applicable.” Analysis of these statistics is a measure of reading skills.

How much of the article exhibits the views of the writer; and how much is based on the poll?

@tadcf

I don’t have to read a report to know how I’m affected. My company dropped the plan I am currently using, starting in 2011, because the insurance company has dropped it. Now, I am faced with paying the same premium amount with a higher deductible. In essence, I will be paying more for the same coverage. Many others around my community are faced with similar issues.

Don’t believe me tadcf, because I haven’t provided links? Guess what? You don’t have to. The issue will be made clear enough in Nov.

Question for you, tadcf. Why does the administration and democrats in general now espouse a selling line of doing “good” things and that they will work to make the law better, instead of continuing their previous assertions of lower cost? If we know that it doesn’t cost, then how can we believe any of their other claims about Obamacare?

It would be great if the only ones who had to go along with any of King Obama’s stuff would be those who donated to him. The rest of us would go along with our lives without government help. I am guessing that in a reasonably short time it would be like East and West Germany used to be after the wall was put up. Remember which side prospered and which side people were risking their lives to get out of?

Well I can tell you for sure how Obamacare is going to affect us. I have already talked to my employer about it. The first thing she said that it is a definite change and is non negotiable. She must provide health care coverage to all of us employees. Failure to do so will result in a $6,000 fine per employee to the IRS and jail time if compliance is not met by the next year.

Second thing she told me is that now the employee health benefits that she is now required and has provided will now be required to be reported as income on our W-4 which this additional income will now be taxable by the IRS. Health coverage that the employer typically pays for each employee can run between $9,000-$15,000 per year depending on the plan and the type of coverage. This will now be considered income.

Third thing, all employees must have health insurance and we must prove that we have it. If we don’t prove coverage, we will be fined and taxed additionally by the IRS.

Fourth insurance carriers are now raising rates and requiring higher premiums, higher deductibles, and higher out of pockets.

Currently, I have health coverage through my employer as primary and my husband’s employer as secondary. I will have to drop one of those coverages just to lower my income tax. We are also eligible for full coverage under TRICARE, as my husband is a veteran and a military retiree, but will those benefits be reported as well against my husband’s retirement income. And what about Medicare benefits. Will Medicare benefits provided by the government be assessed as reportable income to be offset against the Social Security benefits which are taxable.

Those are additional questions that I am seeking answers to? The Tricare concerns me. The bright side of this though is that all of us workers won’t really get to see the results of this Obamacare until we start to file for our 2011 taxes in early 2012, so it will give us time to plan and prepare for it.

The bad news is that when the reality of these additional earnings and taxes hit everyone, I have a feeling that Obamacare will be a dirty word. I have a feeling that all of those lower middle income families that are currently used to getting a $4,000 income tax refund when they do their taxes will find a completely different story when Obamacare hits their tax returns. They may actually have to ooops, cut a check for additional taxes. Woops did you vote for Obama and the Democrats?

I for the first time may buy some popcorn and sit and watch the howling began. Tax accountants, you better arm yourselves.

@Tammy: #9 Taxing the medical insurance will not just add the amount as income, it will probably put most employees in a higher income tax bracket, and they will wind up paying even more taxes than they normally would.

We will be paying for about 16,000 NEW IRS agents (also paying for their benefits) who’s only purpose will be to make sure people buy the insurance.

I am guessing (and hoping) that things like this will wake the good democrats and independents up to the fact that King Obama is on the wrong course for the USS America.