Connection between Saddam’s Regime and Al Queda CAPTURED

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Suspected leader of Ansar Al-Islam, 7 criminal associates arrested

BAGHDAD – Iraqi Security Forces arrested the suspected leader of Ansar al-Islam and seven criminal associates during a series of joint security operations conducted in Mansour and Adhamiyah today.

ISF and U.S. advisors searched several residential buildings for the wanted individual who allegedly has links to senior Al-Qaeda leadership.

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Must be some mistake. EVERYBODY knows there were NO Islamic terrorists in Iraq. And no “weapons of mass destruction.” After all…CNN SAYS so!!

What to believe in a sea of lies …

Common sense says Saddam had plenty things he shouldn’t have, would use them if he could, and of course all sorts of terrorists found refuge in Iraq- he had training facilities there too, particularly for the PLO and Abu Nidal was hiding there… but we’ll just give Saddam the benefit of the doubt because he’s such a nice guy.

BTW, the 1991 war WAS NOT over yet… Saddam broke every line of the armistice, so screw him

Hey, I remember Abu Nidal. Wasn’t he the Black September leader.

Word has it that he committed suicide, because he had cancer and a bad heart.

Upon further investigation, he had 8 slugs in him, and 2 were in the back of the head. Must have been an assisted suicide?

As long as nobody punched the poor fellows in their tummies. 😥

What evidence has ever linked Ansar Al-Islam to the Saddam regime? There has never been anything more than pre-invasion assertions from the Bush administration.

Saddam is known to have considered them a threat. The leader of Ansar Al-Islam referred to Saddam Hussein as his sworn enemy.

Greg: What evidence has ever linked Ansar Al-Islam to the Saddam regime? There has never been anything more than pre-invasion assertions from the Bush administration.

Well, let’s see… there was the captured 20 yr Iraq intel officer, Abu Iman al-Baghdadi, who said that Saddam smuggled arms to the Ansar in order to combat their mutual enemy, the PUK. See also the BBC article on him. Also al-Baghdadi added that many Ansar were trained in those Iraq terrorist camps that most of the clueless say never existed pre-2003. Then, of course, there’s the pesky fact they were joining with Saddam’s Ba’athists and AQ to pick up the while Saddam was hiding in his rabbit hole. Odd thing to do for those who supposedly did little with each other prior.

Then there’s Abdul Rahman al-Shamari, who served in Saddam’s Mukhabarat, who says he was the one who got Saddam with the Ansar.

Then you can add Mohamed Gharib, Ansar al Islam’s Media chief, who said they took assistance from Saddam.

Want more? Qassem Hussein Mohamed, another in Saddam’s Mukhabarat for 20 years, told reporters that Saddam had been secretly aiding, arming and funding Ansar al Islam and al-Qaeda for years.

But wait! There’s MORE to this jihad infomercial!

Haqi Ismail, a Mosul native with relatives at the top of Iraq’s Mukhabarat and spent time in al-Qaeda/al Ansar camps in Afghanistan and Northern Iraq before being caught by Kurdish security, indicated that he was working for Saddam Hussein’s Intelligence Service.

With the Harmony docs and ISG data we seized after the fall of Saddam, this supports his methods since 1993 of using jihad elements as an unofficial state weapon.

I don’t know how many more involved need to give the same story before you start believing them, Greg. For those who prefer to believe that these sundry jihad groups did not join forces to fight a common foe, I doubt there will be the “smoking gun” as evidence they crave. But then, there are few crimes where you’ve got eyewitnesses.

I suppose we’ll have to write off as erroneous the contrary conclusions of the 2004 9/11 Commission Report, the 2004 Senate Report of Pre-war Intelligence on Iraq, the 2004 CIA Report and its 2005 Update, 2006 Pentagon conclusions based on analysis of the captured Harmony database documents, and the 2006 Senate Report of Pre-War Intelligence.

The 2008 Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Report could be added, but there’s little point in citing anything subsequent to the 2006 elections. The conlcusions of the earlier investigations predate the current democratic majority.

I don’t doubt there were “connections” between Saddam Hussein and al Queda. I’m just not convinced that in the greater scheme of things and prior to our invasion of Iraq those tenuous connections had much relevence to U.S. security.

That was then and this is now. Our invasion and prolonged occupation have changed al Qaeda’s level of involvement in Iraq dramatically.

Mata,

Let’s throw this one in there as well:

ON HIS AFFILIATION:

Investigator: What organization do you belong to?

Abed: Ansar Al-Islam.

Investigator: What organization is this?

Abed: It is Bin-Laden’s group.

ON BIN LADEN’S AL-QAEDA TRAINING CAMPS IN FALLUJAH UNDER SADDAM:
Abed: Our Ansar Al-Islam military camps were in Halabja.

Investigator: This was in the days of the previous regime?

Abed: Yes.

Investigator: And now?

Abed: Now, there is nothing. They were all scattered. The training area was in Falluja.

Investigator: And then?

Abed: After Falluja was hit, they would come through Syria to Mosul… I mean, through Falluja to Mosul.

Greg, if you ask Amy Proctor nicely, she will probably re-upload the videos of Ramzi Hashem Abed being debriefed.

Ansar Al-Islam was Saddam’s means of influence in the Kurdish north, to use as proxy against his Kurdish enemies.

@Greg:

I suppose we’ll have to write off as erroneous the contrary conclusions of the 2004 9/11 Commission Report, the 2004 Senate Report of Pre-war Intelligence on Iraq, the 2004 CIA Report and its 2005 Update, 2006 Pentagon conclusions based on analysis of the captured Harmony database documents, and the 2006 Senate Report of Pre-War Intelligence.

The 2008 Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Report could be added, but there’s little point in citing anything subsequent to the 2006 elections. The conlcusions of the earlier investigations predate the current democratic majority.

Greg, all of those have been addressed quite extensively here at FA. Check the archives. You can start with one of the highlighted posts on the sidebar.

@Greg: I suppose we’ll have to write off as erroneous the contrary conclusions of the 2004 9/11 Commission Report, the 2004 Senate Report of Pre-war Intelligence on Iraq, the 2004 CIA Report and its 2005 Update, 2006 Pentagon conclusions based on analysis of the captured Harmony database documents, and the 2006 Senate Report of Pre-War Intelligence.

Of course not, Greg. We’ll just have to give you a timeline reality check. The Harmony and ISG docs did not get incorporated in the final update until the Pentagon report released Nov 2007. There is no information in there that counters the interviews with the above mentioned – as well as Word’s additional witness – were false testimony.

911 Commission… BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

It’s nice you can lift/paste the names of the reports, guy. Now all you need to do is read them? I keep ’em stored on my desktop for easy searching.

Care to try again?

Greg, if your IQ was 1 less you would be a plant!! You may be a robot already, obviously you don’t think for yourself!!

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@Greg: Nearly every Iraqi I met with told us that AQ was working with Saddam and training in Iraq. I was there over 3 years and got to know the locals quite well. How many years did you spend there Greg?