The “Other” Protest this Past Weekend…

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THE protest of the weekend being the one against the healthcare bill.

No, not the ANSWER clowns

“Wake up and smell the cafecito!”:

Tens of thousands of immigrants and their supporters from across the United States packed the Mall on Sunday in a last-ditch effort to spur Congress and the White House to overhaul the nation’s immigration system and offer its 10.8 million illegal immigrants a path to citizenship this year against increasingly long odds.

Warmed by occasional bursts of sunshine, the festive crowd beat drums and waved American flags and placards reading “Change takes Courage” and “Obama Don’t Forget Your Promise!”

“We’ve been patient long enough. We’ve listened quietly. We’ve asked politely. We’ve turned the other cheek so many times our heads are spinning,” Rep. Luis V. Gutierrez (D-Ill.), who has led the push for immigration legislation within the House of Representatives, shouted, to roars of approval. “It’s time to let immigrants come out of the shadows into the light and for America to embrace them and protect them.”

Immigrants don’t need to “come out of the shadows”. ILLEGAL immigrants do, so they can be thrown out.

prominent Latino figures such as Janet Murguía, president of the National Council of La Raza, were joined by leaders of Asian American organizations and smaller groups representing immigrants from countries including Haiti.

You know what? I was wrong about America not being a racist nation. It is racist, thanks to the likes of La Raza, “Asian American organizations”, and all the other special interest groups who don’t rally together based upon shared values and politics, but around shared ethnicity and skin color. So long as people engage in race identity, we will be quagmired on race. I’m sick of it.

Numerous speakers pointed to the political muscle Latinos demonstrated during the presidential election, when 57 percent voted for Barack Obama.

“Wake up and smell the cafecito!” yelled Maria Rodriguez, executive director of the Florida Immigrant Coalition. “Latino workers, campesinos [farm workers] and families are here to stay. To be counted in the ballot box.”

Ah yes, Democrats have an incentive to support illegal immigrants becoming citizens to increase their potential voting block.

President Obama, who appeared in a video message played at the demonstration, immediately endorsed the plan, although he stopped short of earlier promises to move on a bill this year. Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) also promised floor time if the bill emerges from the Judiciary Committee.

However, Sunday’s rally also highlighted the challenges of taking on the immigration system with midterm elections approaching in the fall and at a time of 10 percent unemployment. Noticeably absent were business groups, such as the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which was a key backer of the 2007 legislation. The chamber has expressed doubts about details of this year’s proposal.

Still, the mood of the crowd remained hopeful and often defiant.

Defiant? They break the law, root and anchor and chain themselves here, then demand they be given citizen rights and move in permanently. Would any of their supporters be willing to let strangers come into their homes unannounced, overstay their “welcome”, put their feet up on the furniture, raid the fridge, and demand of their host, “I live here too, now”?

Cue the violins for ILLEGAL immigration sob stories:

The three immigrants wearing ankle bracelets couldn’t stay for the whole march. The bracelets’ batteries were running low. If they didn’t recharge them, immigration agents would be after them again.

The first time had been enough.

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Torres’s job in the meeting was to raise the subject of workplace raids, which he believes sweep up people whose only crime was crossing the border in search of work. The Obama administration has significantly reduced the number of workplace raids, but most immigrants removed through all enforcement measures continue to be non-criminals.

Focus on people who’ve committed crimes, Torres urged the president, according to participants. Obama replied that he must enforce existing law, but he directed Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano to meet with the leaders to discuss ways to lessen the impact on hardworking immigrants.

Torres left the White House feeling optimistic. Then he checked his phone. His top organizer had sent a text message.

“Dealing with raid,” the organizer said. “YOU NEED TO CALL ME NOW.”

Just a couple of hours earlier, about 10:45 a.m., a kitchen worker at Timbuktu Restaurant in Hanover was going to a refrigerator to get some potatoes when he saw agents coming in a rear door. He ran into the main part of the kitchen. “Immigration!” he warned his co-workers.

Police vans, unmarked SUVs and squad cars had wheeled into the driveways and parking lots of two restaurants, an office and several residences in Anne Arundel and Baltimore counties. Dozens of ICE agents and local police surrounded the properties and secured the exits.

Immigration, they said on entering, according to witnesses. Don’t move. Stay calm. Nothing’s going to happen. We’re only going to identify each person.

(Immigration enforcement officials declined to discuss details of the raids because the investigation is ongoing.)

There was no escape. One desperate immigrant dived into a large walk-in refrigerator and slid under a shelf holding cases of beer. He muted his cellphone and watched as heavy black shoes paced up and down the chilly chamber.

The agents asked the workers if they had proof of legal residency. They bound suspected illegal immigrants with white plastic handcuffs behind their backs.

At the raided locations, 28 men and one woman from Guatemala, Ecuador, El Salvador, Honduras, Mexico and Bangladesh were detained. So far, none has been charged with a crime. All are suspected of “administrative” violations of immigration law. All but six were released by Friday. The six are those who have prior immigration violations. The fates of the others will be decided by immigration officials in coming weeks.

The questioning went on for hours. Where are you from? When did you arrive? Where did you enter?

Timbuktu busboy Walter Rosas Alvarez, 34, answered: He came from Guayaquil, Ecuador, about five years ago. He is single with no children and was helping support his parents back in his homeland. He had never been in trouble with the police or immigration officials in either country and had been paying taxes with an IRS tax ID number.

Later, Rosas Alvarez would say that he dreamed of staying in the United States and had been counting on immigration reform making that possible. He had been saving his money and buying sophisticated woodworking tools to continue the skilled carpentry work he once did in Ecuador. Now he expects to be deported. “For five years, all I did was work,” he said. “I came suffering, and I leave suffering.”

A similar scene unfolded at By the Docks restaurant in Middle River, just outside Baltimore. Agents searched the restaurants’ offices for paperwork and took computer hard drives, according to witnesses.

In the redbrick rambler next door to Timbuktu, where about nine of the immigrant workers lived, Jose Martinez, 35, a cook from Cuenca, Ecuador, heard agents shouting commands to open the door. But before Martinez could answer, a battering ram crashed through the door and three agents entered the living room, guns pointed at him, Martinez recalled later.

Three other workers, including Josue Perez, 21, were also in the house. Perez, a busboy, explained later that he was working to support his elderly parents and three younger brothers who are deaf and unable to speak.

The agents cuffed the men and questioned them. They searched the rooms, pulling out belongings and throwing things on the floor, Martinez said. Later, the agents marched the workers to vans and drove them to the detention centers in Howard and Carroll counties.

After seven hours in the refrigerator at Timbuktu, the hidden immigrant stuck his head out from under the beer shelf. He felt frozen. He couldn’t walk. Two acquaintances carried him close to the kitchen oven, to warm him.

He had escaped the raid. But now what?

Trying to lie low

About the same time Torres was heading into the White House, and 29 handcuffed immigrants were answering questions, Valerie Yahlouskaya was driving on Eastern Boulevard in Middle River.

Yahlouskaya passed By the Docks, where her husband worked in the kitchen. She thought it was strange that police cars were blocking the entrance and exit to the parking lot. She saw a waitress crying on the restaurant porch.

Yahlouskaya tried to call her husband. No answer. She called the restaurant. No answer. Then she got a call, and a waitress, between sobs, talked low and fast before abruptly hanging up: The cops came and they took all the guys. . . . A cop is coming, I have to go!

“I was in shock,” Yahlouskaya said, recalling events later. “It was surreal. I got scared.”

She spoke on the condition that her husband’s name and his home country in Central America not be disclosed. (Immigration officials declined to identify any of the suspects.)

Yahlouskaya and her husband, both 30, met in 2003 and married in 2004. They have three children, American citizens, ages 2, 3 and 5.

Her husband worked in the restaurant kitchen six days a week, up to 12 hours a day. They had been getting ready to buy a house, Yahlouskaya said. “We kept waiting to see — maybe they’ll pass the [immigration reform] law,” she said. “We got a new president. . . . It was just lay low and see if something changes.”

Now her husband faces possible deportation.

“No way, I don’t want to think about it,” Yahlouskaya says. Neither she nor the children speak Spanish, she said, and she’s not sure she could relocate to Central America.

But if she didn’t, “he won’t see his kids, they won’t see their father.”

The ripple effects of the raid know no borders.

In the little town of Quebrada de Arena, Honduras, Esperanza Pineda learned that her husband had been detained. He had been sending home $900 a month, the sole support for his wife and four children, ages 14 and younger.

Maria Perez’s cellphone rang in Langley Park. It was her uncle, who works construction in Maryland: Had she heard from her brother Josue? Josue was picked up in the raid on the group house.

“I thought it was a bad joke,” said Maria Perez, 20, a waitress.

She would have to tell their parents in Central America. (A lawyer advised her not to disclose the country.)

Josue had come to the United States five years ago, Maria three years ago. Together they sent home $150 a month to help support their parents and disabled brothers — about a quarter of the family’s monthly budget, according to their mother, Elvida Esperanza Oliva Cardona.

“He went away, risking and suffering to support his brothers,” Oliva Cardona said in a telephone interview, bursting into tears. “He is our right hand.”

Now with Josue’s future uncertain, “it’s up to me to stay, more than ever,” Maria Perez said. “It’s a big responsibility.”

You know what? None of these raids, the painful uprooting of families would be happening if they weren’t here illegally in the first place.

The healthcare debate is not over- not according to President Obama; not according to us. But we also have other looming battles ahead of us, including the issue of illegal immigration reform.

No, I don’t think kicking them all out is the viable, realistic, pragmatic solution; and in some sense, we must reap what we’ve sown and take into account some of the “sob stories”. We’re in part responsible for the mess we’ve created in allowing it to get to this point where we did not enforce existing laws after the first go-round of amnesty; we should fix it and be tough, but also do so as humanely as possible.

But I’ll be damned if I allow the president to grant Obamnesty to 10+ million home invaders. I’ll be damned if he begins channeling Reagan the way he did Teddy Roosevelt.

And I’ll be damned if I watch Nancy Pelosi and Democratic leaders walk arm-in-arm again like they’re “fighting the good fight” in a civil rights movement/struggle. Good grief!

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It’s time for the 2nd Revolution.

With Obamacare being forced down our throats, now is not the time to shrivel away. Now is the time to stand up and fight back harder then ever before. Will you join us on a campaign to DESTROY THE MOUTHPIECE OF OBAMA’S SOCIALIST AGENDA, THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA? WE ARE IN A FIGHT FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY, A FIGHT FOR OUR CHILDREN’S FUTURE. Join the fight here, http://sosssn.blogspot.com/

Illegal aliens sending money, $900 a month, out of this country to support aging parents in whatever, banana republic they are from are committing economic rape of our system.

American workers would spend that money in America, putting into place that economic phenomenon known as the “multiplier effect”. Sales tax on $900 could be as much as $90 to local government for support of local schools, fire departments, and law enforcement. And the businesses where that money was spent would in turn hire more americans who would in turn spend money and “stimulate” our own local economies and further fund the necessary services that government should provide.

Stop the money transfers NOW… GOP Congressmen… write and introduce legislation that requires individuals wiring money to countries outside of the US to provide proof of citizenship and an affidavit declaring that they are not transfering funds on behalf of any third party… violations punishable by prison time.

Illegal Alien Amnesty should be in the form of a 90 day window for individuals in this country illegally to liquidate their assets and return to their country of origin. After the expiration of the “amnesty window”, illegal aliens caught should have all assets sold at auction and and any income derived should be used to pay down the National debt, then immediate deportation.

“Path to citizenship”?

The “path” is go back to your country of origin, then get in line behind your countrymen who have been honestly waiting.

You can fight back immediately by attacking the most guilty of the media giants, GENERAL ELECTRIC. This is the scumbag company that owns MSNBC, the Voice of Socialism. Sign off all of your posts, blogs, and emails with

BOYCOTT GENERAL ELECTRIC

Don, in the Progressive Socialist Vision, the illegal is made a citizen: then he brings his parents here to live on welfare; he can then spend his $900 in the US and we will collect the $90 worth of sales tax.

It is a win/win situation. Three Democrat votes for only two welfare cases: that my friend is Progress, Socialist Progress!

The Democrats have taken my one dream in life and dashed it upon the rocks… Simply to be left alone. I don’t even think Canada, as socialistic as it is, requires its citizens to purchase a product in order to be a citizen in good standing. With the passage of Obamacare I have overnight become a slave to the State or a criminal by doing nothing and harming no one.

Maybe we should just open the borders and let the Mexicans and other illegal entities have it. They at least have the choice of enslaving themselves.

It is utterly unfair to those like me, LEGAL immigrants who follow the law coming to this country. I was never illegal. I sacrificed, I went poor because was not allowed to work, was NEVER on welfare because it’s so damn humiliating for an able bodied person like me at the age of 27, I got a debilitating job first then I started to move up as my knowledge about the system improved. I did what any person out there with dignity and integrity would do: pay the proper respect to a country that shelters you and not take advantage of it. Now I am waiting for my last 2 years when I’ll qualify to apply for my citizenship… The illegal immigrants have a chance of getting it sooner than that…After all the burden they put on the American people, after everything I have done to avoid that, THEY come out as worthier of sympathy and understanding and of that ultimate gift: American citizenship…
Would someone please explain this “logic” to me?

Ruthless, welcome to the non sequitur that is now America… I’m proud of you going about becoming a US Citizen the right way… we’re with you buddy. The asshloes here illegally… screw em.

Ruthless – We are proud of the kind of person you are and for following the law. You will be welcome with open arms when you get here.
Madalyn

Where was ICE and the enforcement agents while all of this was going on?

I agree with Don Bly – and I DO think it possible to deport virtually all of the illegals. It certainly won’t happen overnight, but if we show our resolve and actually enforce our laws, they will begin self-deportation also in order to avoid getting caught and losing it all. And sorry, I do not feel responsible for any of the so-called sob stories – they certainly would not have happened if the law wasn’t broken in the first place. I see too many jobs – even locally – taken from construction workers, developmentally disabled, and high school and college kids to give a damn about interlopers stealing from us all.

It seems to me that in my neighborhood, a lot have self-deported. And Sheriff Joe did his bit this weekend by rounding up 111 criminals including 78 aliens. He is under constant attack by various Hispanic activists–sometimes he also steps in it himself as he did recently trying to investigate the County Commissioners. I’m sure they are as corrupt as he suspects they are, but it’s like working against the DOJ with Holder in charge.

So, who are we going to blame? People who cross the border from povertry-stricken nations to work? Or US business owners who give them the reason to come by disregarding our law and employing them?

We don’t need any massive deportation effort. We simply need to enforce existing laws against hiring illegal aliens. Universal use of E-Verify would go a long way in that direction. Unfortunately, it’s been repeatedly blocked by a de facto coalition of democrats who want a fast-lane to citizenship and republicans who want a dirt-cheap labor pool.

Greg, you are right but notice the talk by Graham about ID cards. Why do citizens need ID cards to prove they aren’t illegals? We have these passport things and pretty good drivers licenses already. The ID card is another control scheme, methinks. Better to make a biometric “green card” for the ones that are here legitimately, and control them, imo.

Wordsmith,

You might try not referring to the people who read opinions of the writers at “Flopping Aces” clowns. I probably agree with much or all of what you said but I won’t be reading your columns anymore. I’ll be finding my commentaries elsewhere and leave this site to the clowns. I’m no clown and don’t appreciate the suggestion that anyone reading here is. Those here (for the most part,) are aware and engaged. I’m sure the majority knew about the “amnesty” marches in DC this weekend. They don’t need to be called clowns even if they did not.

@Notasheep, I believe you misinterpret Word’s use of “clowns”. He uses that term to refer to the specific organization, ANSWER (Act Now to Stop War and Racism), not those reading the post.

This means it’s only personally relevant if you are a part of the group, ANSWER.

@Notasheep

Did you even get past the first sentence?

After you’ve read up and educated yourself about “International ANSWER” (Act Now to Stop War and Racism), please return, and re-read Word’s ENTIRE piece. (Google it)

…then muster yourself up an apology to Mr. Word.

My apologies to Word. I’ve been reading articles on Flopping Aces for quite some time and somehow missed the ANSWER reference. Thank you for the comments.

Then allow me to be the first to say, “welcome back, notasheep”…. LOL We’re happy to clear that misunderstanding up for you.

I once knew a illegal, 30 years old, that was here working, making good money as a cook, $20 hr. and sending it all home to Mexico to build his house there. He once told me that when it’s built he’ll be going back to RETIRE at age 35! WTF??
Does this government even realize this is going on? How about all the American Citizens that are out of a job and would kill for a $20 hr. job?
Today I noticed, with the weather getting nice, that all the illegals were out working thier landscaping jobs. How many unemployed adults and/or young graduates fresh out of school can we find to fill these jobs? Millions!!
IMO… Anyone that hires or even rents housing to these illegals should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I could go on and on, but…
We are the greatest country in the world and we can’t even secure our borders nor even uphold our laws. This country is going to hell and the Illegal Mexicans are going to drag us there.
SECURE OUR BORDERS NOW!!!

sickofitall, you are making some blanket assumptions that I don’t cotton to any more than I like listening to billy bob and rich wheeler doing from their progressive aspect.

First of all, not all hispanic landscapers are illegal. My landscaper and his family are friends, as well as we have business ties. He owns a home, pays taxes and property taxes and is not an illegal. Your paintbrush is too broad, and that is an offensive statement.

Secondly, depending upon the specifics of the cook, most restaurants are paying payroll taxes on their employees, and giving them some for of income tax statements at the end of the year. Therefore it’s entirely likely that, unless the cook was being paid $20 per hour under the table, he was also paying taxes. One would need to define what “sending it all home” to Mexico means…. and that’s likely to be his net after taxes and US living expenses. He has a right to do whatever he wishes with his earnings.

Lastly, if you think that most college grads are seeking landscaping work post grad, you’re mistaken. Hardly the reason they went for higher learning. Additionally, it’s back breaking work and I have to say that my own landscaper’s work ethic is one I wish I saw in more American born citizens.

So do not make the error of broad based class warfare here. It’s just as detestable of commentary coming from the right as it is from the left.

Lastly, if you think that most college grads are seeking landscaping work post grad, you’re mistaken. Hardly the reason they went for higher learning. Additionally, it’s back breaking work and I have to say that my own landscaper’s work ethic is one I wish I saw in more American born citizens.

Your statement focuses soley on the college graduate and misrepresents what Sickofitall asked.

How many unemployed adults and/or young graduates fresh out of school can we find to fill these jobs?

There are in fact many that would be quite happy to have any job working in whatever business. For liberal arts majors, landscaping might be a refreshing change from flipping burgers. In addition Sickofitall did not say all people in landscaping jobs are illegal aliens he is however commenting on a situation that we all know is true, illegal aliens are definitely overly represented in certain businesses.

My stepfather employed migrant mexican workers, they had green cards, were here legally and each winter returned to mexico. The illegal alien that comes here outside the system , breaks the law and cheats other hard working Mexicans that follow the rules and go through proper channels in their efforts to come here for work.

Again… I would propose that it be against the law for those that come here illegally to transfer money back to their country of origin. Here legally, fine, send all you want home.

The immigration laws on the books, if enforced, would go a long way to curbing this rampant invasion of our country. No jobs, no welfare, no housing, no anchor babies, no medical care, no free schooling, no nothing.

If the whole bullshit justification for allowing them to violate our immigration laws is that we are “obligate or owe” the poor seeking a better life, then shouldn’t we be sending boats/planes over to africa, middle east, north korea, and all the other shit holes on the planet to “help” them too? How hypocritical and racists it is to only allow latinos, chicanos, hispanics to benefit from the American taxpayer. Bring em all over so we can take care of them too. //sarcasm off//

The liar in chief is creating the perfect storm and I’m sure it’s intentional. I don’t think he anticipates much of a push back based on our history of allowing the government/liberals to roll over us again and again. I hope they continue to underestimate the anger brewing and push this “amnesty” soon. As the unemployment rates continue to climb and when the taxes needed to pay for “health care reform” kick in, I have faith the good people of this country will rise up and fight for this country and our way of life. History supports that it will happen.

Donald, I’ll concede a mea culpa on high school graduates vs college grads… and/ or adults… for landscaping jobs. Tho I will again say that landscaping is back breaking work. I know I’ve tried to keep up with my landscaper by working side by side with a heavy work load, and he runs rings about me. I doubt anyone would hire me, at my age, to do the job over a younger, more able body.

So please accept my apology on that particular point, sickofitall.

INRE the comment:

Today I noticed, with the weather getting nice, that all the illegals were out working thier landscaping jobs.

I do not retract my comment, or the impression it leaves on this chosen phrase. I will certainly leave it up to sickofitall to clarify, for him/herself, exactly how he/she knows that because they are Hispanic, and working in landscaping, they are illegals. That is a blanket assumption that is, as I said, just as offensive as billy bob and rich wheeler’s broad stroke racist commentaries.

A simple fact is that employers are forbidden by law to determine citizen status when hiring. So how does sickofitall, driving around and noticing Hispanics at work, make such a call? It is stereotyping that is simply unacceptable.

I will again point out that, just because someone entered here without the proper paperwork, that does not mean they are not contributing income taxes, property taxes, and most definitely sales taxes in the appropriate states… etal. I was married to an illegal who then gained his green card…. a Brit. Prior to our marriage, he most certainly filed taxes and contributed to all save property taxes, as he didn’t own a home. Then again, neither did I at that time. He is not the only one who behaves as a productive citizen, without official recognition.

I understand the passion behind the immigration debate. We’ll have ample time to address this, as it’s the next entree on the Obama/Pelosi/Reid menu. And I am most certainly an advocate of better policing of our borders, and other appropriate measures as they arise. But I do split from the crowd on mass round ups and citizen status checks at this point. I know “illegals” that contribute more in work ethic and federal/state tax payments than some American born citizens.

So when it comes to the immigration debate, these sweeping assumptions are not helpful, nor accurate. And they still remain, to me, offensive. And I will continue to call out what I believe is beyond reasonable as rhetoric.

On your last comment:

Again… I would propose that it be against the law for those that come here illegally to transfer money back to their country of origin. Here legally, fine, send all you want home.

Whoa there nellie. If one is here, and paying into the system the same as any citizen, just who are you to dictate what they do with their net? Would you also like to dictate what foreign non citizens bring into our country as well?

BTW, Feb BLS overview unemployment breakdowns (with no mention of citizen status, of course) state:

Among the major worker groups, the unemployment rates for adult men (10.0 percent), adult women (8.0 percent), whites (8.8 percent), blacks (15.8 percent), Hispanics (12.4 percent), and teenagers (25.0 percent) showed little to no change in February. The jobless rate for Asians was 8.4 percent, not seasonally adjusted. (See tables A-1, A-2, and A-3.)

So, Donald and sickofitall, if an employer isn’t allowed to verify citizen status by law, are they now supposed to steer the job to who they believe is an American born citizen based on gender, ethnicity or skin color? In which case, which gender, skin color or ethnicity would you pick?

@ MataHarley

I agree totally that blanket assumptions are unacceptable, but I also know that certain industries do have larger numbers of undocumented workers as a percentage. I owned a yard and landscaping business, before the large influx of illegals and it is definitely hard work and one that I was more than happy to move on from. But, jobs are not necessarily careers and there are plenty of people willing to work at hard labor jobs for a time, maybe not a lifetime.

I am all for some form of national ID card that is tamper proof and counterproof with some form of biometric identification so that we can get a grip on this issue. I mean really, if the police stop you, you’d better have some form of ID on you, so a national ID isn’t that big of a deal.

We currently have laws on our books in some jurisdictions that say criminals cannot profit from their crimes. I equate coming here illegally and sending money earned to some foreign country as ill gotten gain, regardless of taxes paid.

I can only ask one thing of your husband. Why didn’t he do it the right way?

The smart cards can have your whole life history on them, and soon will be able to have their own gps, etc. It isn’t science fiction at all. You will be walking down the street and Big Brother’s monitors will know exactly where you are. Your unique ID is on file with them. The flip side of “checking” is that you will be unable to do anything, eventually, without a card. I repeat, what’s wrong with screening at the border and having the approved visitors carry the cards? Like, you know, visas? Part of the visa process. This way the government could be tracking the aliens, which IDing the citizens doesn’t do. And there is a law here against knowingly hiring illegals, not that it’s much good.

@Pat

I hate to break it to you Pat but the government can already identify you through biometric facial identification and from there pull up your data . No card needed. This technology is already deployed in limited scope.

Having a legal visitor carrying a card does no good in separating those here illegally from citizens as neither would have a card.

Don
I do know that and about nano technology, why I said it isn’t science fiction, if the Sharper Image hadn’t folded it would be there for Christmas. But we aren’t quite to the camera-on-every-corner of Singapore and the UK, and I feel it would be a really good thing to drag heels until the control freaks are gone. This is more important than aliens.
The reason for the card is that it is the green card that allows them to work. I’m sure there will always be aliens coming in. They need to be tracked and they aren’t. They are here to make money and that means either work or crime.
If work, the employer knows he has a valid work permit. These cards would be like gold to immigrants so they have to be biometric because otherwise what man can design, man can forge. It may not do everything but even better green cards would be a big help. Those who don’t have the cards are at a great disadvantage and tend to move on, or back.
If crime, some will go uncaught like all criminals, but these are hardcore problems to society, even the regular illegals definitely would like to see them caught as they are often victims. Around here the law is going after coyotes more and more, getting to the source. No card carried by an American will help fend off people smugglers, they are the lowest of low. The sheriff concentrates on these suppliers and gets plenty of fallout illegals in the process. But there aren’t enough cops to keep them down when there are hundreds a day coming in. Sadly, it seems like hard times mean a greater number of the criminals, and meaner ones. I saw an estimate that 100,000 illegals have left the state over the last year, and I can believe that, but still now we have shootouts and kidnappings all the time between coyotes and druggies.

@ Pat

I’m in disagreement on this one. Being a legal alien and having a biomentric green card, still does nothing to thwart the illegal alien. I’d rather pick some other battle than the one concerning a national ID card. When I apply for a job I still, as a citizen have to prove that I’m an American Citizen. I would much rather present a counterfeit proof, tamper proof national ID card than the current system of presenting documents like a birth certificate and social security card that are presented to a human resource department that is not trained in spotting forgeries and bogus documents. Illegal aliens can get all types of forged documents to allow them to masquarade as citizens

The standard defense a company uses when they get caught hiring illegal aliens is “well the documents looked real to me”. Then what?