Did Obama lie in his joint address to Congress when he said “no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions?”

cue to 1:28 for “YOU LIE”

Last summer and earlier this fall Obama repeatedly claimed that those on our side who expressed concerns about many aspects of the health bills working their way through Congress were lying about certain provisions. One of those “lies” was the GOP claim that money from the government run plans would be used to fund abortions.

When Joe Wilson shouted “YOU LIE” during Obama’s speech to Congress, Joe wasn’t just talking about illegal immigrants getting benefits under these plans (they do). Despite the vote taken in the House to strike abortion funding from their version of the bill, Harry Reid put it back in the Senate bill.

This from House Leader John Boehner (R-OH):

Just like the original 2,032-page, government-run health care plan from Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-CA), Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-NV) massive, 2,074-page bill would levy a new “abortion premium” fee on Americans in the government-run plan.

Beginning on line 7, p. 118, section 1303 under “Voluntary Choice of Coverage of Abortion Services” the Health and Human Services Secretary is given the authority to determine when abortion is allowed under the government-run health plan. Leader Reid’s plan also requires that at least one insurance plan offered in the Exchange covers abortions (line 13, p. 120).

What is even more alarming is that a monthly abortion premium will be charged of all enrollees in the government-run health plan. It’s right there beginning on line 11, page 122, section 1303, under “Actuarial Value of Optional Service Coverage.” The premium will be paid into a U.S. Treasury account – and these federal funds will be used to pay for the abortion services.

Section 1303(a)(2)(C) describes the process in which the Health Benefits Commissioner is to assess the monthly premiums that will be used to pay for elective abortions under the government-run health plan and for those who are given an affordability credit to purchase insurance coverage that includes abortion through the Exchange. The Commissioner must charge at a minimum $1 per enrollee per month.

A majority of Americans believe that health care plans should not be mandated to provide elective abortion coverage, and a majority of Americans do not believe government health care plans should include abortion coverage. Currently, federal appropriations bills include language known as the Hyde Amendment that prohibits the use of federal funds to pay for elective abortions under the Medicare and Medicaid programs, while another provision, known as the Smith Amendment, prohibits federal funding of abortion under the federal employees’ health benefits plan.

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Senate Republicans will fight hard against this and other abominations in the Reid bill.

And once again, when Democrats talk about lying, they are talking about themselves!

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8 comments so far

Spike
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Lie! He lies every F’NG time he opens his ugly Mouth!

November 19th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Madalyn
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What an insult to our Christian nation. I have never had an abortion. I do not believe in abortion. I feel abortion is first degree murder. Under this new plan, I will have to pay for a deliberate killing of an innocent person. Am I right in assuming that “taxation without reprsentation” falls into this category. NO ABORTIONS ON MY WATCH YOU BABY KILLERS!
Madalyn

November 19th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Liam
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this would be a point at which I would consider leaving the country. However, where would you go? Each country is either there or on the brink. Guess I should research a little more, but I draw the line at using my dollars to support the massacre of babies. And if I don’t pay? I (and my family) go to prison.. not a likely plan. Seems like we are running out of options. Take our country back by force, or find another america which doesn’t exist. Unless of course, we just trade with mexico and reinvent the wheel.

November 19th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Inspectorudy
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This should come as no surprise to any of us. The dems are all about moral equivalence and they ALWAYS give in to the party line. Nelson and Landreau will both vote yes and I suspect Liberman will also. The will of the people are never considered by ideologues because they always know whats good for us. Our only hope is that when the Bush tax cuts go away at the end of 2010 and the new Obama tax increases come on line that the public will go nuts and throw the bums out. Maybe after that the new republican Congress can revisit the health care bill.

November 19th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Patvann
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Did Obama lie in his joint address to Congress when he said “no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions?”

His lips were moving when he said it, so the answer is yes. Remember…everything he says comes with an expiration date of his choosing.

November 19th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Trevor
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Yup, he lied.
Canon 915, need I say more?
Brave enough to kill innocent life, but not to hunt terrorists. My cmdr-in-chief

November 21st, 2009 at 10:27 am
Andy
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I’ve got to say, this is hilarious. Never seen such uneducated floundering GOP misinformed posts in my life… well, maybe I have on the Facebook NObama group. “What an insult to our Christian nation. I have never had an abortion. I do not believe in abortion. I feel abortion is first degree murder. Under this new plan, I will have to pay for a deliberate killing of an innocent person. Am I right in assuming that “taxation without reprsentation” falls into this category. NO ABORTIONS ON MY WATCH YOU BABY KILLERS!”

To address you Madalyn, we are not a Christian nation, for religion to rule the blessed-nation of America, we would be a theocracy. We’d be no better then 1600’s England or European countries. We would be ruled out of fear of afterlife, not by the present, so we would do everything we could to appease a supposedly real Almighty One. Secondly, the GOP’s misinformation campaign, is darn-near the same as the one that the GOP used Clinton-Era to shoot down Clinton’s campaign. Whilst you may not agree with me, there is solid evidence of the previous statement. Now, considering as how we live in the greatest nation in the world, do we not deserve competetive health care? I don’t know what your insurance is like, but mine charges an arm and a leg for something as simple as stitches, and God-forbid anything more serious then stitches happens. I’m not necessarily backing Obama’s plan, but I am backing my personal ideology of “If you’re going to make yourself sound stupid, don’t say anything at all.”

Thanks for reading, and Happy Turkey day all.

November 26th, 2009 at 12:03 pm

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