Ah Grasshopper…. you are wise beyond your years!!! LOL!!

Given those options, how can the Dems call themselves the “party of choice”?

Was DOPE meant to be dope with emphasis or Delaware’s Own Plagiarizing Egotist, in acronym form? Twenty years in the Army turns anything into an acronym. Just wondering.

“”do we really want to have Joe Biden take Obama’s place? (shudder)”"

I’d rather eat, well, you get the idea!! What a choice!! A Chitown CREEP or an East Coast DOPE!!
OHHHHHHH MYYYYYYYY !!!!

Agreed.

I do believe that Obama’s poltical fortunes are now in such a steep decline that he will have to step up and make the necessary decisions that he has evaded with Afghanistan. He may have a few more “reprieves” left but his continued dithering will cost him internationally and domestically, whether he realizes the full extent or not. 2013’s Inauguration Day cannot come soon enough for me but to return to my earlier theme cautioning against impeachment fervor, do we really want to have Joe Biden take Obama’s place? (shudder)

Tfhr…You said..”"Thompson’s comments, as shown above, suggest that his point was that Obama was going to lose the war for lack of will. That is something very different than saying that Afghanistan cannot be won.”"

I see where you are coming from, BUT, since we’re stuck with this bunch of idiots for 4 years, in this time period it CAN’T be won…. the CIC doesn’t want to. and 4 years from now, who knows what the field conditions will be…….. what a waste of human life and effort…..

It’s also got some disbelief, and some pity.

It needs a new adjective.

If we become defeatist then Obama wins and we all lose.

Dont give Obama an out. Keep the pressure on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Heckuva job, Fred!

Harry said the war is unwinnable no matter what. Surge or not. Presidential and military leadership, or not.

Fred said the war is unwinnable because the CiC does not want to fight it, nor does he support his his own hand-chosen military leadership.

Big difference, and it matters not what position the two men are currently holding.

I have gone past being pissed off. I am now in a state I am unfamiliar with, and have yet to label.

Nobody is saying that he can’t speak his mind but to suggest that a loss is a foregone conclusion is just nonsense. People were saying that about Iraq because their politics motivated them to do so but that was not accurate as has been demonstrated.

Thompson’s comments, as shown above, suggest that his point was that Obama was going to lose the war for lack of will. That is something very different than saying that Afghanistan cannot be won.

I didn’t hear the Thompson comment myself but until I get a chance to do so, I’m also of the same opinion as you. Fortunately he is not an office holder at this time as that would only make matters that much worse.

I get your basic point but I do beg to differ in the opinion that the Korean War was lost. There is the simple fact that it is not over, technically, but the more important fact is that millions of Koreans thrive in a democratic nation of their own south of the DMZ.

I’m not saying that to nit pick but to help make the point that even in the most desperate conditions and in a land completely foreign to American principles of democracy, there is still ample opportunity to achieve tremendous success.