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		<title>By: Ditto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ditto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the far left is blatantly guilty of hypocrisy in their protests to &quot;legislation of morality&quot;, as they are quite eager to force their own particular brand of morality on everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the far left is blatantly guilty of hypocrisy in their protests to &#8220;legislation of morality&#8221;, as they are quite eager to force their own particular brand of morality on everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: o.u.</title>
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		<dc:creator>o.u.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Spartans practiced enforced homosexuality, had a strong moral code (such as it was) and were the feared military power in their domain. In fairness, they would by today&#039;s standards be considered an unpleasant, possibly evil culture, in the way they treated other human beings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Spartans practiced enforced homosexuality, had a strong moral code (such as it was) and were the feared military power in their domain. In fairness, they would by today&#8217;s standards be considered an unpleasant, possibly evil culture, in the way they treated other human beings.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Trooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Trooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morality in it&#039;s most raw form has been Legislated. Federal, State and Municipal Statutes address all manner of criminal acts that folks can commit against others. The Bill of Rights clearly addresses Freedom of Religion.

Where America seems to be falling short is in the belief that Freedom without Responsibility is acceptable. Responsibility or lack of it is learned from the early years of life from Parents. Most religions reinforce that. Most cultures drive that message in the form of punishments and rewards in the form of Laws. All of the &quot;isms&quot; mentioned in previous posts rely upon changing values through ideologies that control behavior but the State removes freedoms from individuals in the process that pushes punishment for the many but do little to foster individual responsibility.

I see America drifting away from the values of the Founding Fathers as the State takes more liberties away but promises security and social programs in return. There is where the danger lies.

Individual responsibility goes away when individual liberties are removed. A Federal Government that is too large and controlling, over regulating and over taxing to pay for bread and circus programs is happening right now. 

With responsibly exercised freedom, the Individual is mighty. When Government over reaches your liberties just go away and We the People is just gone. The Founding Fathers had it right.

That&#039;s why the Tenth Amendment was written into the Bill of Rights and ratified on December 15, 1791.

&quot;The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morality in it&#8217;s most raw form has been Legislated. Federal, State and Municipal Statutes address all manner of criminal acts that folks can commit against others. The Bill of Rights clearly addresses Freedom of Religion.</p>
<p>Where America seems to be falling short is in the belief that Freedom without Responsibility is acceptable. Responsibility or lack of it is learned from the early years of life from Parents. Most religions reinforce that. Most cultures drive that message in the form of punishments and rewards in the form of Laws. All of the &#8220;isms&#8221; mentioned in previous posts rely upon changing values through ideologies that control behavior but the State removes freedoms from individuals in the process that pushes punishment for the many but do little to foster individual responsibility.</p>
<p>I see America drifting away from the values of the Founding Fathers as the State takes more liberties away but promises security and social programs in return. There is where the danger lies.</p>
<p>Individual responsibility goes away when individual liberties are removed. A Federal Government that is too large and controlling, over regulating and over taxing to pay for bread and circus programs is happening right now. </p>
<p>With responsibly exercised freedom, the Individual is mighty. When Government over reaches your liberties just go away and We the People is just gone. The Founding Fathers had it right.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why the Tenth Amendment was written into the Bill of Rights and ratified on December 15, 1791.</p>
<p>&#8220;The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: American Voter</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Voter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 05:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Compelling article...thanks for writing.

After monitoring King Barry move up the Chicago/National political ladder, coupled with demonstrated blatant favoritism of companies, nations, and control/$ giveaways to the Unions, I  have posted thoughts that Barry&#039;s restructure America plan may be rooted in -- Syndicalism. I never saw a response or could convince any like minded acquaintences of my theory.

Then I saw this article...link below..a compelling theory is made that Syndicalism has evolved to NeoSyndicalism...under King Barry. The proposed Health Care Exchange is but one possible example of Barry&#039;s master plan.
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http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/obama_and_neosyndicalism.html
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Syndicalism, a political philosophy originating in the late 19th century, aspires to place industry, businesses, and government under the control of a conglomeration of labor unions (for the benefit of the &quot;worker&quot;) - by force, as necessary - employing tactics such as general strikes, manipulation, and sabotage.

Syndicalism has influenced Facism, Communism, and Socialism -- and attracted interest from notables such as such as Marx, Hitler, Mossolini, AND SAL ALINSKY.

Forewarned is forearmed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compelling article&#8230;thanks for writing.</p>
<p>After monitoring King Barry move up the Chicago/National political ladder, coupled with demonstrated blatant favoritism of companies, nations, and control/$ giveaways to the Unions, I  have posted thoughts that Barry&#8217;s restructure America plan may be rooted in &#8212; Syndicalism. I never saw a response or could convince any like minded acquaintences of my theory.</p>
<p>Then I saw this article&#8230;link below..a compelling theory is made that Syndicalism has evolved to NeoSyndicalism&#8230;under King Barry. The proposed Health Care Exchange is but one possible example of Barry&#8217;s master plan.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
<a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/obama_and_neosyndicalism.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/obama_and_neosyndicalism.html</a><br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Syndicalism, a political philosophy originating in the late 19th century, aspires to place industry, businesses, and government under the control of a conglomeration of labor unions (for the benefit of the &#8220;worker&#8221;) &#8211; by force, as necessary &#8211; employing tactics such as general strikes, manipulation, and sabotage.</p>
<p>Syndicalism has influenced Facism, Communism, and Socialism &#8212; and attracted interest from notables such as such as Marx, Hitler, Mossolini, AND SAL ALINSKY.</p>
<p>Forewarned is forearmed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tercel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tercel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Maybe we should start there.  If we reverenced God more and esteemed ourselves less, we would be at least headed in the right direction.

&quot;If My people, who are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land&quot;. 2 Chron 7:14.

Are you called by His name? It doesn&#039;t say if &quot;those others&quot; humble themselves. It starts in our own house and then we clean up the rest. Be salt and light. Be different. Walk you talk. Then yell it from the roof tops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Maybe we should start there.  If we reverenced God more and esteemed ourselves less, we would be at least headed in the right direction.</p>
<p>&#8220;If My people, who are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land&#8221;. 2 Chron 7:14.</p>
<p>Are you called by His name? It doesn&#8217;t say if &#8220;those others&#8221; humble themselves. It starts in our own house and then we clean up the rest. Be salt and light. Be different. Walk you talk. Then yell it from the roof tops.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PDill, 

I get why some would be against same sex marriage and I have no issue with people having that opinion based on religious beliefs. And I agree that in today&#039;s society we are far too accepting of questionably moral behavior and have lowered a lot of moral standards under guise &quot;to each his own&quot;. I&#039;m not cool with seeing seven year-old girls dancing like Beyonce but some think its cute. 

The easy part is identifying some of the issues but I think the hard part is where to draw the line. I support a woman&#039;s right to choose but would never make that an option for myself if I were in a situation with a woman and she became pregnant. How far do we go in having God play a larger role in our society? We don&#039;t allow cursing on network television but that line is now blurred more than what I&#039;m comfortable with. We see openly gay people on shows all of the time now... should we move to ban those characters? 

Is displaying the Ten Commandments in school enough or should it be a part of the curriculum? How much of the curriculum and where do you draw the line so you do not violate the rights of parents with children of different faiths? 

I believe the line should be drawn that allows for the most freedom for individuals. Sure, that wrecks havoc on our moral sensibilities but that&#039;s the price we pay for living in a free society. 

When it comes to marriage, I believe the divorce rate has a far more devastating impact on families than does the idea of gay marriage. Mike Duvall is opposed to gay marriage but he was having an affair. That is his moral failings, not two guys living in a loft in San Francisco whom he&#039;s never met.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PDill, </p>
<p>I get why some would be against same sex marriage and I have no issue with people having that opinion based on religious beliefs. And I agree that in today&#8217;s society we are far too accepting of questionably moral behavior and have lowered a lot of moral standards under guise &#8220;to each his own&#8221;. I&#8217;m not cool with seeing seven year-old girls dancing like Beyonce but some think its cute. </p>
<p>The easy part is identifying some of the issues but I think the hard part is where to draw the line. I support a woman&#8217;s right to choose but would never make that an option for myself if I were in a situation with a woman and she became pregnant. How far do we go in having God play a larger role in our society? We don&#8217;t allow cursing on network television but that line is now blurred more than what I&#8217;m comfortable with. We see openly gay people on shows all of the time now&#8230; should we move to ban those characters? </p>
<p>Is displaying the Ten Commandments in school enough or should it be a part of the curriculum? How much of the curriculum and where do you draw the line so you do not violate the rights of parents with children of different faiths? </p>
<p>I believe the line should be drawn that allows for the most freedom for individuals. Sure, that wrecks havoc on our moral sensibilities but that&#8217;s the price we pay for living in a free society. </p>
<p>When it comes to marriage, I believe the divorce rate has a far more devastating impact on families than does the idea of gay marriage. Mike Duvall is opposed to gay marriage but he was having an affair. That is his moral failings, not two guys living in a loft in San Francisco whom he&#8217;s never met.</p>
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		<title>By: PDill</title>
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		<dc:creator>PDill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James I’m certainly NOT suggesting “legislating religion or morality. “  That would be both impossible and unconstitutional.    I’m also not purposing that we all become ‘religious’, only that we wake up to the fact that Christianity in America is not only under attack, but greatly destroyed. 

We have gotten ourselves into moral bankruptcy largely by allowing God to be thrown out of everything from schools to Christmas.  How many even know that “political correctness” is right out the Communist Manifesto?  I suspect about as many who don’t see the perils of same sex ‘marriage’, 50 million abortions, legal euthanasia, and a sex obsessed culture.  And that’s just for starters!

Indeed James human nature will always have corruption, but the good thing about a religious society, is that it can only spread so far.  Eventually, a society of moral people simple revolt.  In a moral relativistic society, which is pretty much what we have become, there is no longer any “standard” (which of course is based on natural and God’s laws); consequently, “anything goes.”  

While I agree with you that America isn’t new to corruption or moral failures, we are for the first time in unchartered territory.   Biotechnology, for the most part, is totally unregulated with potential horrors (if MISUSED), so horrendous, most are probably best not knowing.   We’ve done everything from manipulating human life to creating it ourselves (at least in theory), to deciding when and if to end it.  

We send our hard earned money off to tax cheats and a corrupt manipulating Federal Reserve, and “blindly trust” that what they tell is the truth.  In the meantime, we are about to financially collapse as a nation as a result of their greed and insatiable need for power.  

As for your ‘no big deal attitude’ for allowing gays to marry, you make my point James.  From all I can gather, you are one of the good guys James.  Yet, you don’t “see” it.  You, like many, don’t or can’t see the consequences of gay marriage upon family and society, chalking it off to “changin’ with the times”, which in reality, is simply false compassion. 
  
That’s why a society needs God.   He’s immutable, and saves us all from our own “changing selves.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James I’m certainly NOT suggesting “legislating religion or morality. “  That would be both impossible and unconstitutional.    I’m also not purposing that we all become ‘religious’, only that we wake up to the fact that Christianity in America is not only under attack, but greatly destroyed. </p>
<p>We have gotten ourselves into moral bankruptcy largely by allowing God to be thrown out of everything from schools to Christmas.  How many even know that “political correctness” is right out the Communist Manifesto?  I suspect about as many who don’t see the perils of same sex ‘marriage’, 50 million abortions, legal euthanasia, and a sex obsessed culture.  And that’s just for starters!</p>
<p>Indeed James human nature will always have corruption, but the good thing about a religious society, is that it can only spread so far.  Eventually, a society of moral people simple revolt.  In a moral relativistic society, which is pretty much what we have become, there is no longer any “standard” (which of course is based on natural and God’s laws); consequently, “anything goes.”  </p>
<p>While I agree with you that America isn’t new to corruption or moral failures, we are for the first time in unchartered territory.   Biotechnology, for the most part, is totally unregulated with potential horrors (if MISUSED), so horrendous, most are probably best not knowing.   We’ve done everything from manipulating human life to creating it ourselves (at least in theory), to deciding when and if to end it.  </p>
<p>We send our hard earned money off to tax cheats and a corrupt manipulating Federal Reserve, and “blindly trust” that what they tell is the truth.  In the meantime, we are about to financially collapse as a nation as a result of their greed and insatiable need for power.  </p>
<p>As for your ‘no big deal attitude’ for allowing gays to marry, you make my point James.  From all I can gather, you are one of the good guys James.  Yet, you don’t “see” it.  You, like many, don’t or can’t see the consequences of gay marriage upon family and society, chalking it off to “changin’ with the times”, which in reality, is simply false compassion. </p>
<p>That’s why a society needs God.   He’s immutable, and saves us all from our own “changing selves.”</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hasn&#039;t America always grappled with issues of morality? From its inception it wrestled with slavery, the slaughter on Native Americans, internment camps and much more. What is acceptable changes over time and certainly morality is a compass that provide guiding principles, but if America survived the Civil War and the Civil Rights movement, I&#039;m not concerned about her ability to survive gays being allowed to marry. 

Now, where I agree with you that standards are needed and it is sad how so many of our political leaders have fallen. The question that I have is, how far do with go this idea about God when we live in a free society where people are allowed to worship, or not worship as they please? You cannot legislate God or morality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasn&#8217;t America always grappled with issues of morality? From its inception it wrestled with slavery, the slaughter on Native Americans, internment camps and much more. What is acceptable changes over time and certainly morality is a compass that provide guiding principles, but if America survived the Civil War and the Civil Rights movement, I&#8217;m not concerned about her ability to survive gays being allowed to marry. </p>
<p>Now, where I agree with you that standards are needed and it is sad how so many of our political leaders have fallen. The question that I have is, how far do with go this idea about God when we live in a free society where people are allowed to worship, or not worship as they please? You cannot legislate God or morality.</p>
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		<title>By: Patvann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patvann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article!

It is my view that the Left saw the &quot;wave&quot; that Sarah was creating, and put up a tidal-break as soon as they could. I don&#039;t even think they knew what is was enough to put words to it, but what they saw building toward a crest, scared the hell out of them.

-That wave is building once again, and I can only hope it&#039;s &quot;tidal&quot; in it&#039;s nature.

Every major problem we have in this country, is a result of the failure to commit to morals. It does not necessarily need to be strictly religious-based (but it helps), because even Ayn Rand saw the need for honesty and integrity as well.

-There IS truth, and there IS right and wrong, regardless of what the moral-equivalence bunch would have us believe, and what they have deluded themselves into.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!</p>
<p>It is my view that the Left saw the &#8220;wave&#8221; that Sarah was creating, and put up a tidal-break as soon as they could. I don&#8217;t even think they knew what is was enough to put words to it, but what they saw building toward a crest, scared the hell out of them.</p>
<p>-That wave is building once again, and I can only hope it&#8217;s &#8220;tidal&#8221; in it&#8217;s nature.</p>
<p>Every major problem we have in this country, is a result of the failure to commit to morals. It does not necessarily need to be strictly religious-based (but it helps), because even Ayn Rand saw the need for honesty and integrity as well.</p>
<p>-There IS truth, and there IS right and wrong, regardless of what the moral-equivalence bunch would have us believe, and what they have deluded themselves into.</p>
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