Congressman Calls Obama a “Liar” During Health Care Speech

The emperor has no clothes.

Points of interest regarding Obama’s speech:

1. If that’s the best he has, the Obamacare “reform” plan is dead.

2. Obama has, no doubt, been practicing his lying skills. Those who know the truth and have read the various drafts of health care bills know that Obama is lying or at the very least obfuscating.

3. When Obama began to speak about malpractice, I and many in the audience were expecting Obama’s “new” ideas; I was expecting him to say that he would now consider tort reform to curb excessive waste in malpractice suits. But, during a lengthy pause, which I am sure he rehearsed, he mumbled and then said he would work for “safety features” for doctors in their practices. What a FOOL! We know that lawyers have contributed massive amounts of money to his campaigning and Obama is protecting them instead of protecting the public; the voters. So much for his sincerity and “heart-touching” Teddy moments. For Obama this issue had to be the lose-lose moment.

4. Why did Hillary Clinton, Barbara Feinstein and others stand up when Obama criticized the “wasteful” spending on the Iraq and Afghanistan wars? These people voted for the spending on several occasions. The hypocrisy of it was very telling.

5. This one is as odd as they come. Obama said his door was open for those who wished to come to him to negotiate. If this is anything like his promise to be transparent, forget it. He’s lying through his teeth. This is the guy who has blocked any access to his birth certificate and other relevant information on his qualifications to be president. And, on several occasions has had to be sued using the Freedom of Information Act to pry information from him. And, Obama has then the gall to say he serves up the information voluntarily. Lies. Nothing but lies.

6. Obama also said he would not sign a bill that added one singe dime to taxes or the deficit. This is wordplay because he would add millions of dimes to the deficit and taxes.

7. Also, Obama mentioned the historical passage of Medicate and stated a) that there were areas where the government could save by enforcing some kind of efficiency. What I say is why hasn’t he started already; and b) Medicare is more of a subsidy than a wholesale government takeover of an entire system. We don’t need another AmTrak or Post Office with billions of dollars in losses. (see GROVER NORQUIST: We Don’t Need Another Post Office
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/09/09/grover-norquist-obama-health-care-817970110/).

8. After saying that the conservatives were using deplorable tactics in the healthcare debate, including scare tactics: Obama himself, when he said “if we don’t do anything”, began to try to scare with a string of lies and threats on what would happen if we did nothing.

Obama’s speech was a dodging of the main issues, lying. If you want to read about what Obama and his ultimate plans are, consider reading this article:

The Blogger Who Nailed Van Jones.
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/the-blogger-who-nailed-van-jones/. Van Jones, much like Obama, has an inherently malignant view of what our govenment should be – a socialist government.

Obama is NOT fooling anyone. If this is the best Obama has to offer, Obama is lost and the Obamacare “reform” is dead.

I would like you all to know that Joe Wilson is MY Congressman. I voted for him and will gladly do so again!

It’s about time we started speaking truth to power.

Thanks for posting the photo Aye!

P.S. I did get through to the Congressman’s web site and have the link in my post above. I left a message: “THANK YOU!!!!”

My question is which part?

The whole thing is a lie from the beginning saying he brought us from the brink of collapse. Are you kidding me?

9.7% unemployment – actually at 16% – 17%

Highest Deficit Ever!

He must be drinking his own kool-aid.

But at least someone has some BALLS to call this man what he is. The beautiful thing is that this will dominate and not his speech. Hillarious!

Hey Joe Smith: I bet you thought it was hilarious when Harry Reid called Bush a “liar” and a “loser.”

This newfound Dem respect for the President is amazing. I bet it doesn’t last long. Sort of like their concern for the welfare of CIA agents when another Joe Wilson stirred up that hornets nest about uranium in Africa.

Hey Joe Smith:
Look what the left was saying when Harry Reid called George W. Bush a liar:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/rawstory/rs060105/
(Original story is here: http://www.rawstory.com/exclusives/reid_060105.htm)
Looks like more chickens are coming home to roost for the Democratic party. Doesn’t it?

I find Obama’s lies far more despicable than Senator Wilson’s interruption.

Joe: Sorry, but I’m not buying any more snake oil tonight…. Obama already tried to push a load earlier…

Joe Smith: Is a dual ethical/moral system when Reid calls Bush, who spoke the truth, a liar and Wilson calls Obama, who is lying, a liar? Are these two situations morally equivalent?

That illegal aliens will not be getting health insurance isn’t a lie. That there are no death panels isn’t lie.

That there were WMDs, that Iraq were involved in 911, now that wasn’t true! Did these things get over 4000 Americans killed and 10,000 injured? Now that is a truth.

I see Joe finally came out of the left wing closet.

No one ever said that Iraq was involved in 911 Joe. THAT IS A LIE to suggest someone did.

They actually DID find WMD’s in Iraq. Just not in large quantities.

And Obama in his own words admitted that an independent panel would decide what care is appropriate for terminal cases and others. Sounds like a death panel to me!

You keep right on pushing that civility line of yours. I’m sure you will be repeating it again in four years when after we throw this lying bum Obama out of the White House.

Obama: I used to say 47 million uninsured. Now, it’s 30 million.
http://www.sfexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Obama-I-used-to-say-47-million-uninsured–Now-its-30-million-58237842.html

Was Obama telling the truth when he told us 47 million Americans did not have health insurance?
Why is it now 30 million?

Hey Joe….maybe we should throw our shoes at Obama

yeah baby….dats da ticket !!!!!

So, “connections between Al Qaeda and Iraq” is equivalent to “Iraq was involved in 9-11″?
Sorry Joe. You lose that argument.
There was no extensive collaboration but there were indeed connections between Al Qaeda and Iraq.

From ABC News in 1999 when it was cool to link Osama and Saddam:

Aye: in comment 10 you said “enter the defenders”
You were right, here they are and there are Conservatives!

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/09/joe.wilson/

Even Joe Wilson apologized:

” After the speech, South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson issued a statement apologizing for his outburst.

“This evening, I let my emotions get the best of me when listening to the president’s remarks regarding the coverage of illegal immigrants in the health care bill,” the statement said. “While I disagree with the president’s statement, my comments were inappropriate and regrettable. I extend sincere apologies to the president for this lack of civility.”

Joe Wilson is not even defending himself, but all is well.

Rush will do that tomorrow, and will probably have McCain and any of the Republicans who agree with McCain backing off and apologizing for not jumping in and chanting liar with Joe during the speech.

Mata: The problem with both issues, and also for abortion and others, is that the regulators who set up the framework for implementing the legislation will have a free hand to do what Obama wants anyway, which is to cover illegals, abortions, sex changes etc.

That’s the reason Dems voted against specific amendments offered by the GOP in the House bill that dealt with that and other issues.

If they really didn’t want illegals to get care, then why not vote for the amendment which specifically forbid it?

Mooseburger… With your comment name, you’re the last person who should be lecturing on civility or hypocrisy.

Joe seems like he wants to talk about something else.

By the way, Mooseburger, being a progressive, you should change your handle….your leftist Senators (must be your heroes) are on the verge of confirming Cass Sunstein.

He wants to institute no hunting and the right for animals to sue humans…as you are an obvious liberal — do you understand how to draw the line from this thinking to your blog name? You might end up on his enemies list!

If you need help understanding this…

Sorry for so many posts in same thread but speaking of Kennedys…another buzz around the hall, in Raleigh NC, tonight….the Camelot/kennedy myth trying to be superimposed over the Nobamas … notice his airbrushed grey pattern (Kennedy, tonight, some said FDR) and Michelle (said to be beiing prepared to be the first female president) was wearing a Jackie Kenedy styled suit/pink colored/hairstyled appearance….this coupled with the JFK/JFK jr look alike photo with Obama and his younger daughter — posted this week…my goodness…if these Chicago migrants were not desperate..we would not be exposed to this junk.

Unbelievable…A coincidence?…

@Joe Smith – Read The War Against The Terror Masters” by Michael Ledeen if you think there was no connection between Al Qaeda and Iraq. Iraq played no direct part in 9/11, but it did have ties with all the major terrorist organizations.

Brave Mr. Wilson darted off the floor – like Booth. Brave Mr. Wilson’s staff has taken his website down – seems the lie is on the other foot – site maintenance???. Right. A coward with no class. The true face of the Republican Party.
It just seems that South Carolina, and the rest of the South still hasn’t moved beyond that big loss in 65′. Remember, it was only the wealthy who had the slaves. Oh, that’s right; they had you all fooled then too. It was the poor whites who fought that war for the rich, just like now.

President Obama acted like a child caught in lie, (head on one side, eyes down, mumbling “it’s not true” ….

Rep. Wilson mearly stated a proven fact .. President Obama is a liar.
Way to go Joe, Thank you for speaking out …. Free speech use it or loose it.

could not fit this in on the edit side, but remember the Russians have always tormented the United States, in secret or not and then sat back and pretend they haven’t done a thing against us.
They have been urging the middle east against us since the 30’s and earlier, starting propaganda , blame america because you live in the sand, see how rich she is she took it from you , B.S. They get us all kinds of trouble and they set back with complete deniability.

off subject a sec.
We made a mistake putting in all the oil fields and not running them. We were to polilte and set them up and said, hey we can buy some of this oil, right. The Brits would have kept control and maybe keep alot of the wealth out of terrorist hand. I read that is why king , i think his name was Faad at the time not sure, picked the USA to put in the fields because he knew we never colonized and took over as the brits tended to do.

So anyway, iraq is another way the russians jump into our business to embarass the States again in the eyes of the world. and where would they be without us. The way things are going maybe they will get to find out.

Read the Looming Tower, by Lawrance Wright. The book shows how it all started between the middle east and the West. Sometimes i wish i never read some of these books, it was much easier not knowing the facts, kind of like the libs. Just want money , other peoples money, and power, to hell with the facts.

There were so many lies said by our Resident last night that it is really hard to pick just one, but you have to remember one thing- this is the party where they have trouble, apparently, in defining what the definition of the word”is” is-
So it is really not too surprising that the WON has a hard time knowing what the truth is, because for him, the truth is malleable, something he can mold to fit the occasion and audience.
Not true, Mr. Resident- I would call you liar also, but louder and more often.
n a side note, did anyone see Botox Nan’s face? It actually moved!

From Instapundit:
“It was a breach of decorum and civility. But someone who says ‘get in their face’ and ‘punch back twice as hard’ has little standing to bring that up. If you want to benefit from traditions of civility, you should respect them, and that has hardly been a hallmark of this administration, which has gone out of its way to try to demonize and shout down opponents.”

The fact is…he DID lie. More than that, he KNEW that he was lying, not just about illegals, but other points as well.

Just on illegals being covered… What changed was, and what all the sycophants are spewing as the new talking point, (and I suspect was added for just that purpose), is the following:

H.R. 3200: Sec 246 – NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS: Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.

I see it all over the blogs this morning and about 50 times in Youtube video comments. They say Obama was correct because Section 246 of the House Bill excludes illegals from receiving Individual Affordability Credits. That is true, and one of the few exceptions under the Bill. But it is the exception which proves the rule. IAC’s are just one small part of the benefits covered in the bill. If the standard is the full House Bill, HR3200, then it appears that Obama was lying through his teeth. There is nothing in HR3200 that excludes illegal aliens from any of the OTHER various coverage provisions (with a few limited exceptions).

As Aye states above, the Congressional Research Service agrees with this assessment. The full report is linked here:

Treatment of non citizens in HR 3200
http://assets.opencrs.com/rpts/R40773_20090825.pdf

It’s not that long a report, and I highly recommend it be read. It deals just with the question of illegals.

The Congressional Research Service (CRS), is the public policy research arm of the United States Congress. It’s a legislative branch agency within the Library of Congress, CRS works exclusively and directly for Members of Congress, their Committees and staff. Their job is to “interpret” bills for idiot legislators too lazy or ignorant to either read them themselves or understand them if they actually do…

For example, with regard to health care exchanges, the CRS found:

H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitzens—whether legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently—participating in the Exchange.

As the CRS found, illegal aliens can participate in virtually ALL of the critical aspects of the government health system including the health care exchanges. Since Obama wanted a full House vote passing HR3200 prior to the August recess, Obama was okay with a bill that included illegal aliens. Will these provisions be in a final bill? Count on it. They are designed to not just cover illegals, but to fast track amnesty as well.

How do I get there?

Obama added another new section last night, and to me, it’s a marvel of duplicity; mandatory compliance. EVERYONE has to have insurance. More than being (IMHO) unconstitutional, it appears to have a more nefarious purpose. If everyone has to have insurance, it will be interesting to see how long the exclusion of illegal aliens from getting the credits lasts, since as the CRS notes, illegal aliens are subject to the health care mandate; one can anticipate the argument that if the House Bill requires illegals to have qualified health insurance, some accommodation needs to be made for those who cannot afford it. What might that accommodation be, I wonder…

I bet La Raza and other groups representing illegals that are pushing so hard for this legislation know…

Amnesty. With Obama, you always watch the other hand, not the shiny thing he’s showing…

(h/t to Legal Insurrection for info on CRS)

wardogs

Wardogs- the mandatory compliance was always there in HR3200-, including giving the IRS the power to go into your bank accounts and withdraw whatever they felt was “your fair share”.

@Wordsmith:

Here’s another sick lie he walked into the hallowed hall and told, one he’s repeated:

From Obama’s speech:

“One man from Illinois lost his coverage in the middle of chemotherapy because his insurer found that he hadn’t reported gallstones that he didn’t even know about. They delayed his treatment, and he died because of it.”

This is the sad story of Mr. Otto Raddatz, a case that Mr. Obama has cited several times before, including in his August 16th editorial in the New York Times.

For the record, however, the case is not exactly the way Mr. Obama has characterized it, at least according to the sworn testimony of Mr. Raddatz’s sister.

And, the rest of the story:

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-story-about-lost-insurance

Blast- I am guessing that Rep. Wilson has more respect for THE OFFICE of the presidency than Demmies do- I know I damn sure do not respect the man who sits in that office, that’s for sure. He has proven to be a liar, straight up, and that’s just the good side of him.
As I said, I would not apologize, but then I have a very Low BS tolerance, and a disability I call “Voluntary Tourette’s”, so Hussein would have heard a lot more from me.
That is why I am not a Politician.

Awe, come on you Conservatives, this should be a bi-partisan Bill, your spoiling the moment with all this decent. It’s easy, have you ever went to buy a car? Remember the nice man that told you all about the car, you know the honest one who would never lie about a nice ole lady owning it.

It’s easy, just put your brain to sleep, fall in line behind the Pied Piper Obama, and sing Kum-by-Ya and drink the cool aide when it’s handed to you…