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School Children Asked to Pledge to Serve Obama?

Posted by: Mike's America @ 12:38 pm in Uncategorized  | 8,488 views

Hollywood libs who would refuse to say the Pledge of Allegiance and spit on the flag, are eager to ask school children to pledge service to Obama!

Curt fills us in on how Obama will use a nationwide address to all school children next week to further indoctrinate the young. And if you needed more proof of that, then read on…

The following video was shown to 850 students at a school assembly of the Eagle Bay Elementary School in Farmington, Utah:

“I pledge my service to Barack Obama.”
“I pledge to be a servant to our President.”

Hmmm… I thought public servants were supposed to serve the public, not the other way around!

Near the end, Ashton Kutcher asks “what’s your pledge?” I’ve got one: I pledge never to buy another movie ticket or rent of any film these people are in.

Q: When was the last time school children were asked to pledge to a national leader?

Hint: It was in the first half of the 20th Century in Europe!

Give up? Here’s a video reminder:

Hitler Youth Pledge: “I promise to do my duty in love and loyalty to the Führer and our flag.”

The only difference between the Hitler Youth pledge and the above is that the Hollywooders eliminated any mention of flag or country. I guess hero worship is more important!

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151 comments so far

Tom n
 1Reply to this comment  

My how times change. They won’t allow religion, Republicans, & the military in but Obama – NO Problem.

I wonder where we are headed.

September 2nd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
 2Reply to this comment  

I feel like I need a shower.

September 2nd, 2009 at 12:53 pm
SouthernRoots
 3Reply to this comment  

I pledge to give Barack Obama as much assistance as I can to return him to the private sector.

September 2nd, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Bookdoc
 4Reply to this comment  

“I pledge to give Barack Obama as much assistance as I can to return him to the private sector.”

I don’t think he can RETURN as obambi has never worked in the private sector and I doubt he’d last more than a week in a real business.

September 2nd, 2009 at 1:13 pm
bill-tb
 5Reply to this comment  

Looking more and more like the Fuhrer everyday.

September 2nd, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Joe Camel
 6Reply to this comment  

I pledge not to buy another ticket or watch another movie with any of those included in the above video!
I pledge to continue to ask those in the video to give up all their monies, time and energy to make all they want happen. After all, they are rich so why not give it all up and help us all out.
I pledge to continue to forward information out to the uninformed populace who don’t see what is happening right under their noses.
And finally, I pledge to uphold the constitution of our great land, and defend it from terrorists both foreign and domestic, that being our current president, house, senate and Hollywood elites.

September 2nd, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Larry Sheldon
 7Reply to this comment  

“return him to the private sector”

“return”?

When has he ever been in the private sector in the USA?

September 2nd, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Inspectorudy
 8Reply to this comment  

I’m starting to feel like a German citizen in 1939! I feel queazy and sick. This shit is way over the top and where the hell is the ACLU? Give me anyone’s religion over this BS and I will politely listen and show respect for your beliefs. But this crap is nothing but idol worship. And all of these meaningless pledges coming from the most immoral group on the planet means zero!

September 2nd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Old Trooper
 9Reply to this comment  

About three decades ago I swore an oath to the Constitution.of the United States. It still applies regardless of what personality cult buffoon is the temporary resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Anyone that believes that pampered overpaid Hollywood role players that do not have the good sense that God gave a crowbar are rational thinkers are delusional. I listen to John Voight. I trusted Ronald Reagan. The current crop are fools and don’t live in the real world and have nothing in common with me. I pay them no heed.

September 2nd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Rob in Houston
 10Reply to this comment  

Slavery? Slavery? I don’t know any slaves for slave owners? I maybe the should head to freaking Hugo Land or Africa where there is still some slavery. My gosh these people are dumb.

The slavery that is keeping black from realizing their full potential by hooking on them on the crack-train that is welfare. But that aside, I am happy that they feel the need to pledge, just don’t you dare pledge for me, especially the income that I work hard to provide for my family!!

September 2nd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Jay Galt
 11Reply to this comment  

That video is totally despicable. Those people are brain dead. They are the typical empty headed liberal who wants to be thought of as important and committed. They aren’t interested in thinking or researching because its easier to just commit to something that sounds good and lets them feel a part of something bigger than themselves. They have no idea that the world is not a two dimensional game board. Let’s free 1 million slaves over the next 5 years. What will they do now that they are freed? How will you stop them from being enslaved again? Does it matter that your actions encourage people to kidnap and raid for slaves because you are paying to release them.?

Why do they need to pledge in the first place? Why not just do good in your immediate part of the world quietly and without announcement? For them it would negate the whole purpose since they just want to use the pledge to feel self important. In the very young such blindness is expected; they haven’t learned that there is an elaborate system and you can’t just reach in and fix things without understanding the causes and planning for the effects of your changes. As a young person you feel that by wanting badly enough you can accomplish anything. Obama is acting like the Pied Piper and seducing the young people into believing in a fantasy rather than acting like an adult and pointing out the pitfalls and showing them how to best direct their efforts. It is sickening to see people so busy talking about doing good and getting such a buzz off it without really doing anything at all. The best part is that they pledge to that empty shirt Obama to direct their efforts and he has not done anything to help anyone other than political favors, and hopefully Michelle and his daughters, in his life. Its particularly repellent that many of the things they pledge to do are wrong headed and actually have a bad effect like getting a hybrid car, which is harder on the earth because of the manufacturing and battery disposal. But it all sounds good.

Like Obama they look good and sound good if you don’t really listen but they are rotten at the core just as he is.

September 2nd, 2009 at 2:21 pm
SouthernRoots
 12Reply to this comment  

Ok, Ok. Gotta update my pledge. I pledge to assist Barack Obama in every way possible to become a private citizen and former president.

I would avoid movies, etc. of many of these actors, but I only recognize a couple anyway.

Maybe I’ll change my ways when I see proof that these wealthy rich people living off the hard earned money of the working class have turned over 90%+ of their wealth to those not so fortunate. If they are still really wealthy after that, then they didn’t give enough and we should have the government take it from them….. or something.

September 2nd, 2009 at 2:27 pm
 13Reply to this comment  

Gee thanks Mike for totally pissing me off !

September 2nd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
jainphx
 14Reply to this comment  

You will Pledge or else we have a nice summer camp for you, except it will be open 24/7 365. You will work for the one you won’t pledge to. Don’t forget if you pledge it is your duty to tell us of those that wont

Your mother and father, did they pledge, how about your aunts and uncles. You should tell us of ANYBODY that refuses or else!

September 2nd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
AL
 15Reply to this comment  

I pledge to vote against obama in 2012.

September 2nd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Rides A Pale Horse
 16Reply to this comment  

Seig Heil Obamafuhrer!!

http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/RAPH6969/Obamajugend09.jpg

September 2nd, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Scrapiron
 17Reply to this comment  

Religion is schools has been banned by the democrats and the idiots on the SCOTUS so there is no way they can allow the practice of O’Dumboism in school. Any speach by O’Dumbo, god of the dumb, is banned and will be a felony. Indict and jail them all. I’ll go one better on the embargo of Holywood movies. I haven’t been to a movie or rented one (includes not purchasing CD/DVD’s) since before O’Dumbo was elected. I refuse to put a penny in the pockets of the anti-american Holywood crowd. It’s time to send all the p*** poor actors in Holywood to the welfare line. As for the music of the now crowd, I have a pack of coyotes in the area that sound better even when they’re fighting????

September 2nd, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Larry Sheldon
 18Reply to this comment  

“so there is no way they can allow the practice of O’Dumboism”

When you have the only guns in a disarmed crowd, you can pretty much do what ever you want to.

September 2nd, 2009 at 4:15 pm
JohnMcClane
 19Reply to this comment  

On the page, is that Demi Moore?
Anyway, I can see alot of school aged boys pledging to her.
I’m almost ready, too.

September 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
FedUp
 20Reply to this comment  

OVER.MY.DEAD.BODY! Bible and guns are ready… let’em come!

September 2nd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Steve In Tulsa
 21Reply to this comment  

Who else remembers the national socialist youth movement? Those leftist socialists in Berlin who gave the world Hitler and the NAZI party (national socialist party.) Now who here is ready to kill some jews for the common good?

September 2nd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Steve In Tulsa
 22Reply to this comment  

/Sarcasm

September 2nd, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Timothy
 23Reply to this comment  

Now kiddies…repeat after me….

Raise your right hand in salute

NEW OATH FOR THE OBAMA YOUTH CORPS

“Lord Obama, you are our great Führer. Thy name makes the enemy tremble. Thy Fourth Reich comes, thy will alone is law upon the earth. Let us hear daily thy voice and order us by thy leadership, for we will obey to the end and even with our lives. We praise thee! Heil Obama!”

“Führer, my Führer, give me by God. Protect and preserve my life for long. You saved Progressive Left in time of need. I thank you for my daily bread. Be with me for a long time, do not leave me, Führer, my Führer, my faith, my light, Hail to my Führer!”

September 2nd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Old Trooper
 24Reply to this comment  

Steve In Tulsa, despite Obama’s disdain for the State of Israel, he wants to kill the Rights and Wealth of other folks that “Look Like the Other Guys on US Currency”.

September 2nd, 2009 at 4:37 pm
The Chris Rock Show
 25Reply to this comment  

FedUp – I second that stance.

September 2nd, 2009 at 4:39 pm
 26Reply to this comment  

@Jay Galt makes a good point:

” Why do they need to pledge in the first place? Why not just do good in your immediate part of the world quietly and without announcement? “

Why is it that these Hollywooders never do anything without publicity? Do they always have to say “HEY…LOOK AT ME…I’M SUCH A GOOD PERSON.”

One wonders what kind of vile inhumanity they are trying to cover up with that routine.

September 2nd, 2009 at 4:40 pm
 27Reply to this comment  

This made my stomach hurt for these kids. I homeschool — it’s a hard job. But I just have to do it. I love how curriculum choices are growing – this year the kids are taking some online classes at Veritas Scholars Academy.

How about this pledge by Ayn Rand? “I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.”

Which also reminds me of St. Paul’s words: “Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men, since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward.”

FYI, at the Salt Lake Tribune’s website, I clicked on “comments” and got malware warnings.

September 2nd, 2009 at 4:49 pm
 28Reply to this comment  

I pledge: I will never forget I am an American, fighting for freedom, responsibile for my actions, and dedicated to the principles which made my country free. H/T to the Warrior Legacy Foundation.

September 2nd, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Blessings
 29Reply to this comment  

God save us all and save our beloved country.

September 2nd, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Old Trooper
 30Reply to this comment  

This is all about Power, Control and an Agenda that I reject on the basis that goes against everything I believe in. Intrusive Government and the Cult of Personality for this Pretender and his Socialist Lackeys is a just a huge no go for me. It violates every standard that I hold myself to as an American. A non representative and hostile Government that plans oppressive taxation and intrusion on most Americans Values, Freedom of Choice and Liberty is going to have a head on collision with reality before the 2010 elections.

I don’t know what they are smoking but the Protests at the Town Hall meetings sent a message. No one in DC got it. The message will get louder as the deficit and unemployment grows which it will in the coming months. If Obama and the leadership (little L) in Congress do not get it He won’t last until 2010. In Your Face Arrogance generates a lot of discontent.

My allegiance is to the Nation and the Constitution I that I swore Defend against All Enemies Foreign or Domestic, not some Marxist Punk Pretender.

September 2nd, 2009 at 5:40 pm
 31Reply to this comment  

I made two pledges in my life; to my country and my wife….there will not be a third

September 2nd, 2009 at 5:43 pm
ArmyLifer
 32Reply to this comment  

I am sitting here at 0400 hours in Germany , getting ready to go to work. My work, you ask? I am a career Soldier, having pledged to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America for the past 23 years. I cannot, do not, and will not pledge to support any particular individual, especially this “one” over my country. I’ve been to war, and no – it was not for oil, or imperial reasons, but for liberty, freedom and the chance for people to choose their own destinies.

What DO I pledge? I pledge to remain certain that my voter registration remains current in my home state. I pledge to remain even more current on issues than I already am. I pledge, that when it is time to vote, I VOTE.

OLDTROOPER and USMCdaughter1, thank you for your service and for that of those beloved to you.

September 2nd, 2009 at 7:10 pm
 33Reply to this comment  

I predict even lower poll numbers for “His Presidency.”

Just came back from a neighborhood association meeting (sounded like a recent health care townhall) …no neighborhood topics were discussed, instead parents adamantly voiced their upset with this attempt to propagandize their children.

I counted 17 parents saying they were pulling their children out of school that day — as the local school refused to allow them to attend during these activities…also, many neighbors relayed making phone calls, emails to WH and to our US Congressman, and Senators…we’ll all be on the newest WH “list”…but whatever.

I guess we were not alone…Good News seems to be surfacing about backing off on at least some content of this planned propaganda event..

As savvy as FA readers are, I’m sure you have already seen this…if not..Hot Air posted at 8:24pm EDT

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/02/wh-deletes-line-about-schoolkids-helping-obama-from-speech-prep-materials/

Lets aim to edit this event all the way down — to the bare bones — with the President speaking to encourage the students to study, work hard towards achievement and their future, etc….then maybe he could add something about volunteering to do chores at home… just sayin’

September 2nd, 2009 at 7:19 pm
braininahat
 34Reply to this comment  

I pledge to donate more to Sarah Palin.

September 2nd, 2009 at 7:26 pm
paul91740
 35Reply to this comment  

I pledge to boycott every movie, every song, everything these brain dead liberals stand for. I also pledge to boycott ABC, CBS, NBC etc etc. Who will join me?

September 2nd, 2009 at 7:43 pm
luva the scissors
 36Reply to this comment  

i pledge to stand for the freedom of this nation, the right to bear arms and the right to question authority. i pledge to raise my children with better values and morals than the liberals. i also pledge not to listen to night club shootin, crack and heroin usin pieces of crap. i pledge to be a good conservative american.

September 2nd, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Buffalobob
 37Reply to this comment  

I pledge to live my life as I have always lived it. I do not need, nor want, morons suggesting that I should subjugate myself to any human.
I am not afraid to say love, family, country and God in the same sentence to close friends or strangers.
I do not grovel, kiss up, suck up, or have a need to fit in with a group at the cost of my beliefs.
I believe in the motto to stand up for what is right and just even if you are the only one standing.
I believe the best judge of character is what a person does when no one is looking not when the camera is on.
I can proudly say that I have met more people in a day, that are on this tape, who make this country work, who help their fellow man, who give to charities, not because they are cajoled into giving but because they are true Americans not phony so called celebrities.

September 2nd, 2009 at 8:15 pm
 38Reply to this comment  

@ArmyLifer: Thank you for your service and for your voice from Germany. No doubt you have seen first hand what happens to a society which allows itself to be swept along on a cult of personality invested in the leader.

God forbid that should ever happen here.

September 2nd, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Wm T Sherman
 39Reply to this comment  

So these Hollywood douchebags are *still* not ashamed of that un-American, groveling, piece-of-shit fuehrer-worship video?

They will be ashamed. It’s only a matter of time. It must be preserved to grind into their faces.

September 2nd, 2009 at 8:36 pm
jhweath
 40Reply to this comment  

If I were the parents of these children, I would be all over the school principal and the school board and demand a public apology and a promise that left wing propoganda would be left outside shool property. After all they are paying for the school. I haven’t heard that is happening. Must all be left wing non-thinking freaks. Obama needs to go back to Africa where he came from and leave our children (and adults) alone.

September 2nd, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Wm T Sherman
 41Reply to this comment  

That video is about a year old, right?

September 2nd, 2009 at 8:44 pm
 42Reply to this comment  

Apparently, Oprah W was behind the production/Jan 2009 release of this “I pledge to serve the President” video.

I think it’s great to vocalize about volunteering or improving our country…but…we should not be pledging to be a “servant to our President.” MUCH LESS SHOW THIS TO OUR CHILDREN…and encourage them to this mind set?

Further — lot of problems in California — budgets burst supporting enormous number of non-essential social programs/spending, slave trafficking in San Francisco continues, Central Valley Farmers’ water getting cut off??? etc, etc, etc. where is all that “I pledge” for their own backyard? They could use their status to be helping save their own state!!!

I pledge never to watch another tv show, buy another movie ticket, buy another CD/DVD, rent any film — in which these people appear/vocalize/produce/direct…
(couldn’t id them all – can anyone else?)

David Arquette
Sean Combs
Courtney Cox
Kat Dennings
Cameron Diaz
Jenna Elfman
Dakota Fanning
Soleil Moon Frye
Anthony Kiedis (Red Hot Chili Peppers)
James King
Keshia Knight Pulliam
Ashton Kutcher
Laura Linley
Eva Longoria
George Lopez
Lucy Lui
Alyssa Milano
Eva Mendes
Demi Moore
Nicole Richie
Micheal Strahan (former NY Giant)
Marissa Tomei
Rumer Willis
Rita Wilson

September 2nd, 2009 at 8:45 pm
 43Reply to this comment  

I HOPE they dont change the “Pledge of Allegiance”.

I pledge allegiance to Obama and to the Republic that stands for him. One Nation under Socialism, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all, except Rightwing Haters.

September 2nd, 2009 at 8:52 pm
 44Reply to this comment  

Armylifer,

Unfortunately for me, I was found lacking by the USMC in both height and weight therefore, 3rd generation or not, they decided to look elsewhere for a recruit of the female persuasion. But I am damned proud of my heritage and I took the name to honor my great uncle and father as best I could.

Bless you and thank you for all you do to keep us safe. Know that we are proud of you and will always honor your service. You all keep your heads in the game there, we will take care of what needs to be done here. We will not let you down.

September 2nd, 2009 at 9:12 pm
AdrianS
 45Reply to this comment  

This is a nasty plan where Obama will molest young students and essentially pit them against parents who DO NOT support Obama. This is a most disturbing and disgusting plan — typical of perversion, manipulating children. The outrage across the country is hot. You’ve got it right; Obama has to be stopped.

September 2nd, 2009 at 9:21 pm
BarbaraS
 46Reply to this comment  

Thanks, American Voter, for identifying them. I didn’t know who they were except for Demi Moore and Cameron Diaz. I have one qwuestion though. Where the hell is Sean Penn, the biggest communist of them all?

I pledge to continue never watching TV, see movies or buy anything these idiots tout. It is very discouraging to see these millionaires bowing down and worshipping someone who wants to take all their money away from them and give it to deadbeats. Probably when they realize it, it will be too late. But then, they are so stupid they probably will never catch on.

What I want to see is a surtax imposed by the state of California on all involved in the movie industry to pull the state out of the abyss because of the agenda these idiots supported. It will never happen, of course. Eugene McCarthy was right. Hollywood is rampant with communists.

And it is sad that our youth look up to them.

September 2nd, 2009 at 9:29 pm
tfhr
 47Reply to this comment  

@JohnMcClane:

You’re right – and that seems to have worked on one – Kutcher.

(You should’ve stuck with Holly Gennaro.)

September 2nd, 2009 at 9:32 pm
 48Reply to this comment  

Adrian S is a troll. Just for those of you who dont catch that. This person is impersonating someone opposed to Obama’s cult of personality.

September 2nd, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Chicago Way Wanderer
 49Reply to this comment  

More info:
Annenberg Foundation – Obama & Ares.
Wild Billy Ares & his teaching plans
Arne “The Idiot” Duncan – check out his CV & his twisted educational vision
Chicago Public School’s graduation rate, maybe 50, maybe lower
Chicago Public School’s percentage of college grads might be 4%
Chicago Pubic School’s number of student shootings
Chicago Public School’s number of deaths
Chicago Public School’s clout entry
Chicago Public School’s failure of magnet schools
Chicago’s Public’s School’s dumbing down of material
Chicago’s Public School’s gang bangers’ influence
Chicago Public’s School’s drug and booze problems
CPC’s 70% teen’s birth rate
CPS’s baby sitting service
There so many more. The above are some facts why the Education Cabinet position should eliminated. State’s rights, baby, state’s rights.
How the head of the worst school system in the country was promoted to Sec. of Education is just bizarre. Basketball? Yeah, lower all schools to CSP’s standards. That’s the ticket! Everyone has to be equal, don’t ya know. This “school community organizing” is pure Chicago Way ideology. The children are only pawns in this “historic event.” Oh, and how much cash is being spent of this fiasco?

September 2nd, 2009 at 10:49 pm
spacelink
 50Reply to this comment  

I KNEW IT! Adrian S, you are absolutely CORRECT along with anyone else that see’s through the smoke and mirrors of this Manchurian Candidate… Obama bin Hitler! Impeachment is the ONLY way to rid our country of this treasonous slime bag.
Last night he hosted a dinner party for the muslims honoring romadamdon (purposely misspelled) in the WHITE HOUSE yet snubbed the National Day of Prayer on the 7th of May. Anyone want to refute the fact of his religious affiliation now?!

September 2nd, 2009 at 11:46 pm
spacelink
 51Reply to this comment  

I pledge to BOYCOTT EVERYONE of you! God have mercy on our Country!

September 2nd, 2009 at 11:53 pm
 52Reply to this comment  

How would those same Actors/Actresses have reacted had Bush done something similar? How would the left had reacted?

I can only imagine the outrage that would be heard from them all.

I can’t pledge to not buy tickets as I rarely go to the movies (The last one was Clone Wars with my son and before that – YEARS before). So that would just be an empty pledge and me mouthing words.

I can pledge that I don’t want my kids indoctrinated and will make sure that my school is aware that I protest this being shown.

If parents want their children to see this, then they can go to youtube AT THEIR HOME and show it.

September 3rd, 2009 at 12:21 am
frznagn
 53Reply to this comment  

I like braininahat’s idea.

What’s that old saying about “the hand that rocks the cradle”? Seems like they have that move down pat.

September 3rd, 2009 at 12:30 am
 54Reply to this comment  

Anyone have the list of celebs in this video?

Check out this link. Too funny!

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/dburge/2009/01/20/i-pledge/

September 3rd, 2009 at 1:07 am
AdrianS
 55Reply to this comment  

September 8, 2009: National Keep Your Child at Home Day

By AmericanElephant on September 1, 2009

http://americanelephant.com/blog/commentary/september-8-2009-national-keep-your-child-at-home

September 3rd, 2009 at 6:52 am
 56Reply to this comment  

@anticsrocks asks ” Anyone have the list of celebs in this video? ”

See the above:
@American Voter:

September 3rd, 2009 at 7:04 am
Slatrat
 57Reply to this comment  

I live in Draper, Utah. This item was on the news last night locally. I have a gut feeling that there will be severe consequences over this liberal propaganda. The head of our local Eagle Forum was on the news last night voicing her concerns. I know there are conservatives in Hollywood (albeit few), but I don’t know who the hell most of these Bozo’s are that have participated in Barack Earmonkeybama’s video. Could someone leave a list for me so that I will be sure not to watch or endorse any of these “Thespians” (I used to beat up Thespians for practice when I was in Middle Screwel). It’s funny to me that these Bozo’s who endorse Earmonkeybama would be the first ones on the elimination list when his Nationalist Socialist Party take full control of our country, over my dead body. Effen Nazi’s.
“Nazi’s….I Hate Nazi’s! Johnny Wisemiller in Tarzan vs the Nazi’s.

September 3rd, 2009 at 7:58 am
Hard Right
 58Reply to this comment  

Did my post get deleted or eaten by the filter? It was meant as satire.

September 3rd, 2009 at 8:11 am
 59Reply to this comment  

@Hard Right:

I don’t see you in the filter.

You may need to try it again.

September 3rd, 2009 at 8:19 am
 60Reply to this comment  

Now pay attention to our glorious leader children. After the video Johnny will lead us in the songs “Thank You Dear Leader for our Bounty” and Obama the Beautiful “

September 3rd, 2009 at 8:27 am
Larry Sheldon
 61Reply to this comment  

Re: lost post–I tried to post something a hour or so ao (seemed awfully important then–don’t rember what now) an ran into a database crash (”Database error” I think it screeched).

September 3rd, 2009 at 8:28 am
Eagle's Dominion
 63Reply to this comment  

Now….Let’s not forget how the left approached this subject in 1991!
http://tinyurl.com/mxyafb

September 3rd, 2009 at 9:23 am
Maggie
 64Reply to this comment  

Joel Madden is another one in the film.

September 3rd, 2009 at 10:53 am
Maggie
 65Reply to this comment  

Absolutely the most disgusting I have ever seen!! I have lost so much respect for these performers. SO MUCH!

September 3rd, 2009 at 11:00 am
 66Reply to this comment  

@Eagle’s Dominion: Good find!

Here’s an excerpt:

“The Department of Education should not be producing paid political advertising for the president, it should be helping us to produce smarter students,” House Majority Leader Richard A. Gephardt (D-Mo.) said. “And the president should be doing more about education than saying, ‘Lights, camera, action.’ ”

Two House committees demanded that the department explain the use of its funds for the speech, an explanation that Deputy Secretary David T. Kearns provided late in the day in a letter to Rep. William D. Ford (D-Mich.), chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee. Education Secretary Lamar Alexander was out of town. [...]
Rep. Patricia Schroeder (D-Colo.), chairwoman of the Select Committee on Children, Youth and Families, said it was outrageous for the White House to “start using precious dollars for campaigns” when “we are struggling for every silly dime we can get” for education programs.

Rep. Martin Frost (D-Tex.) said that if Bush feels obliged to use government funds to hire outside consultants “to make him look good,” then he should fire some of the public relations experts on the White House payroll. “Then the president might be more sympathetic to unemployment benefits,” Frost said, referring to Bush’s threat to veto legislation to extend benefits.

September 3rd, 2009 at 11:03 am
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The Stepford Citizens …

September 3rd, 2009 at 11:06 am
Madalyn
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Chuck Norris and Jon Voight are real citizens. They support our country, not a pinhead pretending to lead our country. If I think of anyone else who has their head on straight in Hollyweird, I will post.
God Bless America
Madalyn

September 3rd, 2009 at 11:26 am
 69Reply to this comment  

I was looking for a complete list. American Voter says he isn’t sure of all the celebs.

September 3rd, 2009 at 11:26 am
Ladella
 70Reply to this comment  

Is this for real? I am a skeptic of things like this. Has this been verifyed by anyone? Some people can make anything up and put on the internet. Is this one of those?

Don’t get me wrong. I am not for this brainwashing either. But, I have found too many people making statements as facts with no referencing to back it up.

September 3rd, 2009 at 11:48 am
Larry Sheldon
 71Reply to this comment  

Ladella: See if you an find something to work with here:

http://thedanashow.wordpress.com/2009/09/03/white-house-changes-lines-about-kids-serving-obama-from-98-activity-directives/

http://thedanashow.wordpress.com/2009/09/03/lt-gov-peter-kinder-weighs-in-on-98-school-presentation/

http://thedanashow.wordpress.com/ # has a lot of articles.

All of the White House outlets (CBS, MSNBC, whitehouse.gov…, http://www.barackobama.com/) have all been airbrushed.

September 3rd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Phil
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I just threw up in my mouth a little. I am sick that all these brain washed libs with a platform that could be used for some of the very notable charites mentioned in this video back it up by pledgeing to Obama. If anyone would have done that for either Bush or R. Regan, what would people have said to that? None of the 3 would have alowed it!

September 3rd, 2009 at 12:25 pm
mlajoie2
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Just got off the phone with my School Superintendent Office. I asked them whether they were going to show the Obama thing on September 8. She said the Super and Principals were going to meet later and that they had been “deluged” with calls from parents. “I assume you’re against it,” she said. I mentioned the video on this post that was shown in Utah which suggests us pledging to serve Obama. “Are you just worried about the content of the broadcast Tuesday?” she asked hopefully. “No, I don’t like the whole idea of it,” I said. It doesn’t seem right, beyond the politics of it. I even mentioned the word “subsidiarity”. I wonder if she’ll look it up!

The good thing was she couldn’t have been nicer and I complimented her on that and I thanked her for what she does. I come from a town in New Hampshire and I am encouraged that MANY other parents apparently have decided to pick up their phones on behalf of their kids and their country.

mlajoie2

September 3rd, 2009 at 12:39 pm
SoCal Chris
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I would say I’d boycott these actors’ movies, but then again, I probably don’t have to because their films/shows are ones I don’t like to begin with, so wouldn’t watch anyway. I think this just proves just how kookie they are, and desperate for publicity. I’m sure they mean well, but I think they need some reality therapy. Maybe their therapy could be to attend 3-4 townhalls and tea parties to see what the majority of Americans (all politcal parties) are truly thinking, and help them get out of the mind fog they are in? Kidding aside, that might not be a bad idea! ;)

September 3rd, 2009 at 12:54 pm
moe
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can anyone let me know if this pledge is online to read, I have dial up and can not see the videos Help

September 3rd, 2009 at 1:05 pm
mooseburger
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Yep, that darn Obama is tryin’ tuh get them there school kids to get inspired and take school seriously, by talkin’ to them.

When Bush was in office, that would never happen, and here is a good example of how Bush was helpin’ school kids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro3o-ld0CWw

When you have a Conservative President like Bush, you can easily see how he is cool under pressure and his calm, measured demeanor in a crisis speaks loudly that ” hey America, these kids are learnin’ something here, and it is not some leftist propaganda, so this is the level of commitment my administration has for good old book learnin’, even while America is being attacked!”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZOeFceoilQ

See, Bush’s schedule of events was put out for the press and the whole world to know about, everyone including the 911 hijackers knew Bush was at that school that day, and had a press conference later too. The hijackers could have at any point targeted the President and all those children. Bush knew that and stayed for a real long time listening to those kids read, because unlike the Socialist Obama, even though the Nation was now at war, and those kids and the school were a potential target and at extreme risk, Bush knew that interrupting those kids lessons that day was not an option, and the attack and the safety of the President and the Country came second to his honorable commitment to our children’s education and settin’ an example of listening to them read instead of filling their poor heads with Socialist propaganda. The man demonstrated that he has time to listen and help out those kids, no matter what. Only a man like Bush would do that, not the socialist Obama.

We all know that every bad thing that has ever happened in our country is the fault of leftist, socialist Liberals, even the 911 attack was all Clinton’s fault, right? This proves the fact that even when Republicans have the White House and the majority of both the Congress and Senate, we are not safe as long as there are liberals who wield Alinsky tactics for power and control. Even electing all Republican majorities and a Republican President can’t keep this country safe, because a large percentage of Americans continue to vote for Democrats, who hate America and work tirelessly night and day to see to it that America is destroyed, and have cause more damage than Republicans can possibly ever repair.

Now Obama is talking directly to our school kids, the Socialist with his Socialist Government subsidized lunch programs, Government funded after school programs, Federal Grants, Federal funding of the schools themselves, scholarships, funding for programs to help children with special needs….you get the idea, this is Socialist Government control of your children, and it is not in the Constitution.

Why just pull our kids out of school on the day Obama is speaking to them? Get them out of the Obama Socialist schools and keep them out, let the private sector take care of it, and for God’s sake give them more tax cuts so competition can thrive and the private sector educators can let the free market education system prosper. Or educate them at home where Conservative wisdom and knowledge can be taught and most assuredly save our country and restore all that is right to America. Abolish the US Dept of Education, one of the evil tools of the Alinsky controlled Socialist Obama youth movement. Abraham Lincoln learned and educated himself mostly by himself, your and my kids can too, and they don’t need those big fancy Government mandated and controlled after school sports events, where they let girls get the same type of sports as boys, in order to have a good conservative productive life. Get the Socialist Government off our backs and let the free market decide who gets a good education and who doesn’t without all the Government strings that are like ropes attached to the money they take from us and spend training our children to be socialist thugs, who someday may end up with a decent paying Union job further destroying America as we know it. It is NOT the governments job to indoctrinate our kids with Obama Socialist propaganda, and it is imperative that we take control, get them out of this Socialist environment and begin to indoctrinate our kids ourselves, starting with teaching them that only Conservative Republican values represent the real America, everyone else is only out to destroy America, even the people who passively allow the Liberals to take root and spread their Socialist tentacles across our great land. For God’s sake let us save our children from the Obama re education camps Rep. Bachman has warned us about, before it is too late!!

Most importantly, watch Fox news and especially Glen “I weep because I fear for my Country” Beck. Anytime you see a true Conservative cry like that, you know it is for real and not some ploy for ratings or an effort to just scare people. Evil conspiracies are afoot, Don’t tread on me Socialist Obama and the majority of people who voted for him! We don’t have respect for the will of the voters, and Socialist Obama trying to accomplish what he promised to do in his campaign because we know you really want to destroy America, because you are not Conservatives. Sorry for the rant, I just worry about our children and wonder why REAL Americans like Rush, Hannity, Dick Morris, O’Reilly, Coulter don’t run for President and take back our country, kill all our enemies and restore freedom to our country. Those great Americans would do anything for their country, even if they had to take a pay cut to do it I am sure. They are not just all talk, and soon I hope, will assume the responsibility of backing up their talk, putting it into action and rolling up their sleeves and as elected representatives of the Real America, talk the talk and walk the walk.

Don’t let Limbaugh’s addiction problems or his three divorces, or trip to Haiti for Viagra and young boys fool you, the man is all about good Conservative values and he would make a great President, and he would never try to indoctrinate our children like the Socialist Obama. Even with his Oxycontin destroyed ears, he would be a good listener to like minded Conservatives, the only real Americans.

September 3rd, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Larry Sheldon
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I wonder what school mooseburger was supposed to have attended.

September 3rd, 2009 at 1:39 pm
 78Reply to this comment  

The real shame here is that everybody, both supporter and critics, believe in their hearts that the President of the United States would (or should) use this speech to pitch a political agenda to school children.

Has the office been debased that much in a mere 7 months ?

September 3rd, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Hard Right
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moose is just happy he’ll be able to take a break from coloring and watch his hero on TV. School hasn’t been the same for him since they made him stop eating the glue.

September 3rd, 2009 at 1:49 pm
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@mooseburger: Oh that’s right… nothing to see here…

Sure….

In your twisted mind, how do you possibly compare Bush reading a book to school children on 9/11 to a nationwide address by the president to a captive audience of minor children forced to undergo examination and further curricula about the dear leader?

PUHLEASE!

Get a grip before your phony moral equivalence gags me and the rest of the readers here.

Sieg Heil Mossy! Welcome to Obama’s Reich! Feel free to report me to your neighborhood ACORN supervisor!

September 3rd, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Kelly
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I noticed to following in addition to #42 comment:

Bryce Dallas Howard
Ashley Simpson
Emily Deschanel (Bones)
Hayden Panettiere (Heroes)
Jaime Pressley (My Name Is Earl)
another one of the Willis girls besides Rumor, but I didn’t know which one

September 3rd, 2009 at 2:07 pm
mlajoie2
 82Reply to this comment  

Moose,

Seriously, take a moment and re-read what you just wrote. Are you honestly trying to characterize the people here with this hateful sarcasm? I admit, there are some sites that you wouldn’t be quite so far off on, but honor impels me to defend the people here. Such a screed says to us that you have us all figured out and that we are all ignorant and motivated by prejudice and fear. Is that really true? I think you have misread a lot of people that I know personally and through other organizations, also. Such a misrepresentation of our motives is hurtful and unjust. Why do that? What do you hope to achieve?

I don’t want to assume any such things about you. Why not deal more substantively with the events, ideas or occurrences that you feel strongly about without throwing the net of prejudice over a lot of good people? Maybe you actually have some good points to make.

No offense is intended. I’m just trying to be constructive.

mlajoie2

September 3rd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Brad in Vancouver,WA
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I’m 28 years old and wondering what happened to tradition in our country. Why would we want to step away from the things that made this country great in such a short period of time. What is happening to our society.

September 3rd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
gprice
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@mlajoie2: @mlajoie2:
Way to go!! If everyone would do this BEFORE this shows up at your local school, it won’t be a battle. The school is there to serve you and your children. That is your tax money paying their salary so don’t be afraid to let them know your viewpoint. Most schools do not want conflict with the parents so it is the one place where you actually have some clout!!

September 3rd, 2009 at 2:18 pm
mooseburger
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Mike: I been watching Glen Beck, I didn’t realize all the plots and conspiracies before. You folks are doing a great job exposing the Socialist Obama and his plot to destroy America. The enemy is everywhere, burrowed deep into even the school system. This insidious plot could never have been exposed without Conservatives, the only Real Americans, having stood up and called out the Devil by his true name.

No sense in waiting for the next election cycle either, in fact, it never has stopped from the last election cycle……if we as fellow Americans could only ask for one thing, it would be for the Conservatives to work even harder, dig deeper, and expose to the light of day the Godless Socialism and mind control of our children….before it is too late. Undermine this Socialist “elected” (Kenyan) leader in every way possible, he is not like us, he is not one of us, and undo the damage that the last 8 months of total destruction of America was wrought upon the land, this country is not strong enough to take it. Rick Perry might have it right, lets just give up on America and start breaking it up into pieces, a State at a time. If Obama thinks he can destroy America, Conservatives will show him how to to it even better.

Bush showed his commitment to those kids education in school that day of the 911 attack, and although he would endanger them by staying for 10 minutes or so knowing we were under attack, that he was a target, and doing nothing, I agree he would never, ever try to pull the mind control of poor captive school children toward a destruction of our country like the Socialist Obama.

September 3rd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Edgeplay_Cgo
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The Barack Obama Lied (Die Fahne hoch)

Flag high! Ranks closed tight!
The Acorn Troopers march with bold, firm step.
Loyal Union Batallions
March together within our ranks.

Clear the streets for the Acorn battalions.
Clear the streets for the Socialist men!
Millions already look hopefully up to the Messiah.
The day is breaking for hope and change!

For the last time now the call is sounded!
Already we stand all ready to fight!
Soon the Obama banners will flutter over the streets.
Our enemies won’t last much longer!

Flag high! Ranks closed tight!
The Acorn Troopers march with bold, firm step.
Loyal Union Batallions
March together within our ranks.

September 3rd, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Old Trooper
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mooseburger, Ok…

“Bush showed his commitment to those kids education in school that day of the 911 attack, and although he would endanger them by staying for 10 minutes or so knowing we were under attack, that he was a target, and doing nothing, I agree he would never, ever try to pull the mind control of poor captive school children toward a destruction of our country like the Socialist Obama.”

That is a lie pure and simple and You damn well know it.
Where were You on 9.11.01 and were you in any danger?
How were they endangered and by whom?

No one in that school was held captive by ANYONE.

I was at Ft. Drum, NY tearing up my retirement papers and in no danger. Months later I exited an aircraft in flight to offer the Taliban & Al Q more danger than they wanted over Kandahar.

I don’t know why You continue to post your fictional crap like that here.

Your Boy Obama and His crew of Marxist Activists are destroying the American Culture, Values, Traditions and bankrupt the Treasury at record rate aided by complete kool aid drinking idiots like you that do not know fact from fiction.

Answer the questions.

September 3rd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
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@mooseburger:

Hey moose….has anyone called you an asshole today?

If not, I’d like that honor.

September 3rd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Toothfairy
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Bush stayed at the school “for ten minutes or so” on 9/11 because he is a mature adult and father who did not want to cause those children to panic. As we now know, AQ was targeting buildings which were symbols of our democracy — not specific individuals.

September 3rd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Tom in CA
 90Reply to this comment  

Come on, leave ol Moose alone. He’s funny.

September 3rd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Larry Sheldon
 91Reply to this comment  

In the same sense that an abscessed tooth is “funny”.

September 3rd, 2009 at 4:02 pm
mooseburger
 92Reply to this comment  

Old Trooper:
If Bush wasn’t considered a target, why did he go up in Air Force One and fly around and around for hours after the attack later in the day? His schedule was posted that day for the press and the world, and among the very many things that were very strange about Bush’s actions that day, the secret service should have grabbed him up like they did Dick Cheney and whisked him off to a safe location pronto. The country is under attack, the enemy and all the world knows right where Bush is at, several Planes are unaccounted for with their transmitters shut off, and Bush sits there for 7-10 minutes, doesn’t initiate an order only the President could give, to shoot down any plane that is a threat, or any order for that matter and exposing those school kids to danger because it would be reasonable to figure he might be a target as was the Pentagon and Twin Towers. Nobody was a captive there, but if a threat to the President existed, it was also a threat to those in that classroom while he was there.

http://www.historycommons.org/essay.jsp?article=essayaninterestingday

I was impressed however in his devotion to those kids and them doing their reading in class despite the National Emergency unfolding without his direct involvement during the time he stayed in the classroom and also stayed for photos, not leaving until after even the press had left. Unlike the Socialist Obama who wants to brainwash our youth with his live talk and probably use some hidden Socialist messages in the video link that only vulnerable children can absorb.

Aye: I am indeed deeply moved by your calling me an asshole, when Conservatives call you an asshole, a man has some serious thinking to do….I’ll spend an inordinate amount of time contemplating your view of me and if I find it troubles me beyond what I can bear, I’ll come back and say I’m sorry. I guess if you don’t hear back from me about that, I’m probably not sorry then….

September 3rd, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Larry Sheldon
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Was I frightened?

Yeah. I was frightened.

From where I sit you can see forever to the west–on clear days you can see contrails of myriad aircraft carrying myriad people across flyover country.

That day and for many days the skies were empty and nobody understood quite what that meant.

We live a few miles north (more or less) of Offutt AFB. We don’t get much heavy traffic over head.
But that night there was some. And in the days that followed there were occasional heavies overhead–usually when somebody important was speaking in a public place.

And thinking about what that might mean is frightening.

For several years, I was not especially frightened except when one of our pols or their friends said something stupid.

Now I am frightened all the time. Frightened because our enemies are being encouraged to hurt us. Frightened because my age and condition suggest that I am soon to be sedated and left to die.

And I don’t want to die, I am still working on things that are not finished.

September 3rd, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Rachel McAllister
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I’m so disgusted I dont’ know where to begin. I’m an 8th grade teacher and I have to sit through the entire speech on the 9th because we have been “asked” to make it our lesson of the day. So I have to sit up there and smile and act like I agree with everything he is saying and then lead my classes in discussions. The only thing I’m so blessed to say is that my own children go to school in the same district and the two schools have said they won’t be participating in the airing of Obama’s speech. Junior high will have it available if students wish to watch it in the library, elementary won’t disrupt their academic day and air it. Thank God, for once, that I agree with those principals. It just goes to show you that demographics plays a huge role in deciding who will watch it and who won’t. And…you can’t say anything about it, speak out against it, because if you do then of course you’re a racist, conservative POS. Well if not pledging my allegiance to America’s Hitler, makes me a racist, then sign me up. I want to the president of the club. I pledge allegiance to my country and my love to my JESUS.

September 3rd, 2009 at 4:47 pm
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@mooseburger:

For all the whining on the left about people using 9/11 for political gain, why is it that the leftists are the ones who routinely engage in that behavior?

It’s disgusting to watch you sit there and second guess the events and reactions of the people involved on 9/11. People whose impeccable skill, devotion, and professionalism you could only dream of emulating.

You’re pointing fingers at, and finding fault with, decisions that were made by people who are willing to put themselves in front of a bullet or worse in order to preserve the life of the President and their other protectees. Their devotion and service to this country goes far beyond party loyalty or ideology.

You have not one inkling of a clue what the Secret Service is all about, yet you pontificate and posture and point your gnarled finger at them as if they really owe you some sort of explanation.

That’s what makes you such an asshole.

The Secret Service doesn’t owe you any sort of explanation for anything that they do or don’t do. They don’t have to justify to you their actions on 9/11. They did what was in the best interest of the President and this country.

They did what they are trained to do.

There is no doubt that the Secret Service has a lot more experience in protecting people than you do.

Those professionals, impeccably trained and highly experienced, are the ones who were making the decisions about the safety of the President that morning.

How dare you point your finger at them and criticize.

The events have been dissected, analyzed, disassembled, and then reassembled again. We’re now nearly eight long years out. How convenient for you.

What you’re not including in your amateurish analysis is the high level of uncertainty that existed on that morning. What you’re failing to include is that no one knew exactly what was going on. No one. Perhaps you’ve forgotten.

Would it have been wise to have quickly loaded the President into a waiting limo and then rush him headlong into a possible ambush along the highway because they didn’t take the necessary time to lock down the escape route?

Would it have been wise to load the President into his limo and then rush him to Air Force One to then have the plan sit there and wait to be ready to fly? In that particular situation, Air Force One would be a mighty big target.

What “safe location” could the Secret Service have whisked him off too? Does the school in Sarasota have some secret underground bunker that could have been utilized?

The answer, obviously, is no.

It would have been foolish for the Secret Service to have moved the President from the school without first assessing what the situation was and how to safely move him.

The school was the safest place for the President to be until an assessment could be made and a plan implemented.

Furthermore, as a routine matter, the airspace surrounding a Presidential appearance is always restricted and that is enforced by the military. Considering that fact alone, your insinuation that the children were endangered is just more worthless spittle flecked spew.

As to why President Bush didn’t return immediately to DC, that was another decision that the Secret Service made. They are entrusted with the well being of their protectees and, in the most critical of situations, they make the decisions that they deem best.

President Bush overrode the advice of the Secret Service later in the day and he returned to DC.

Obviously, you know nothing of the Secret Service and the techniques that they employ. It’s not my job or responsibility to inform you further and most of it is beyond your need to know anyway.

September 3rd, 2009 at 5:20 pm
SoCal Chris
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@Rachel McAllister:
That is GREAT news to hear some schools are choosing not to air this piece of possible biased propaganda for the democrat party. I hope others will have the courage to follow suit.

[Junior high will have it available if students wish to watch it in the library, elementary won’t disrupt their academic day and air it.]

I think this is at least a viable solution and reasonable compromise to disrupting their regular schedule for their first day of school. I prefer it not be at the schools at all (it just seems an inappropriate place) but maybe this is the better of the two options.

September 3rd, 2009 at 5:31 pm
PB
 97Reply to this comment  

To Serve Obama? Wasn’t that a cook book? But, the problem is; who is on the menu? Us or him?

September 3rd, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Old Trooper
 98Reply to this comment  

Moose, You are truly delusional and a sad cartoon character. I have no idea how you have lived this long in ignorance without having Divine Intervention or a handler that fed you the garbage mindset that just does not fly with me.

I will not call you an a_hole but your understanding of things rivals that of one of Pavlov’s dogs.
You salivate at the sound of leftist propaganda that meets your inner needs and validates your feelings but leaves logic wanting for anyone that reads your crapped up postings.

You answered none of my questions and responded with Party Line drivel that is not supported by Fact or Knowledge. You are a very sad case but as my Degrees are not in Psycho Therapy I can’t help you.

Aye offered you factual info and facts are not meeting your expectations or support your mindset.

I have a large Ranch to run and real life experiences that I share here. I pay more in taxes than what you make in about 10 years. I have the second largest privately owned cattle ranches in Montana and one of the top 10 in the nation. I have spent 28 years in boots and am not affiliated with any Political Party and despise Career Politicians and do not suffer Fools kindly.

I have deployed more often to Third World Countries than I can recall and spent more months at risk than You have held a steady job so spare me your BS.

The Nation was at risk and almost 3,000 Americans perished. The School Children were SAFE Dickweed!

Sorry good FA Folks but Moose just reminds me of a perceptual Idiot falls for the last LIE that He was told. We know better.

So that being said the Pretender in Chief wants to profess care for the children. BS.

I have fed and clothed more children on BIA run ghetto reservations than the Millionaire patched pants Affirmative Action Obama’s ever cared to do out of my Own pocket.

My ancestors destroyed the 7th US Cavalry with bows, arrows and bad rifles. When I exercise my prerogative as a Citizen that is seeing my Nation going on the wrong path, I will speak out to set it right.

America got fooled. Don’t get fooled again.

September 3rd, 2009 at 6:27 pm
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Smug, self-serving, self-righteous, sanctimonious, egotistical, and just plain stupid if they believe anyone cares what they want to pledge. I would be willing to bet though that none of them meant one thing they said. As for the slavery part…are they talking about their Hispanic illegals who clean their houses and water the grass?

I see that two of the slugs from “Entourage” are pledgers. Safe to say, I won’t be stopping by their HBO women hating fest any time soon.

September 3rd, 2009 at 6:31 pm
mooseburger
 100Reply to this comment  

Aye: Why does it upset you that questions are asked and the very worst is assumed until it is proved to not be true? And after it has been proven to not be true, the truth is ignored and the lie is told as fact. This is what is going on now, and worse right here in this thread. This seems to be the way some discuss politics here now at FA. I see it here all the time, you said:

“It’s disgusting to watch you sit there and second guess the events and reactions of the people involved on 9/11. People whose impeccable skill, devotion, and professionalism you could only dream of emulating.”

I say, well said, but this cuts both ways, and no outrage is mentioned when the worst motives and intentions are applied against Democrats, or the President, many here save and voice their indignation only to further their ideology, and refuse to call the truth the truth when it cuts against their ideology. As for:
Curt
Mataharley
Wordsmith
Mike
Scott
ChrisG
Skye
Aye
I will say you are strong advocates for your cause, and if it means much to you or not, I can absolutely respect that. And you too Old Trooper, however, the Nazi, Fascist, Socialist, and racial (comment # 57) venom goes unchallenged and I believe the above mentioned writers in fact condone and encourage it. It furthers their cause, while they can keep their hands “clean” at the same time. There is more than enough of that type of hate, and that’s exactly what it is, to go around on both sides. If it comes from the Conservative side, it is smiled upon here, like in this very post:

Comments # 5, 16, 21, (killing Jews), 23, 45, (molest young children), 50, (Obama bin Hitler), 57, (earmonkey Obama)

I don’t hear anyone speak up and say hey, that might be a bit over the line. If there is question of George Bush, or the Secrete service, outrage, and demand for apologies.

As long as I have been posting here, I have never witnessed anyone having the guts to call out some of the Rightwing nutjobs, as long as they are anti Obama, they seem to have a nice friendly home here posting their Nazi, molest young children, killing jews crap. There were protesters who did the same shit to Bush, they were fools and so are the ones here who do it. The authors here seem to have no problem with it, and in fact seem to be hoping to push it to mainstream levels. So yeah, Aye, I think this site had degenerated since I first came here, and that was only late March 2009. Why do you guys here who I know for a fact have some decency and honor go along with the extreme nutjob fringe, when you decry it so much coming from Liberals? Is it just because it is your own particular brand of the same crap?

Back on topic:

Would a Republican President ever broadcast an address to students on C-span and talk policy issues, take questions and defend and promote his administration?

http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1988/111488c.htm

And how dare I point my finger and criticize? Well, I do, just like you do.

September 3rd, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Chicago Way Wanderer
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I apologize for my, uh, rather disjointed post of last night. Never post when you are angry. To atone for the post, I would like to present the results of Arne Duncan’s “leadership” for the Chicago Public Schools:

“Chicago Public Schools officials say they’ll spend about $30 million to target about 1,200 high school students most at risk of committing violence or falling victim to it under a new safety and security plan outlined today.

The students will be selected using risk factors like grades, attendance and serious misconduct in school, District CEO Ron Huberman told the Tribune editorial board.

Based on those factors, district officials predict that 200 students have a more than 20 percent chance of being shot and another 1,000 face a 7.5 percent to 20 percent chance of the same fate.

Huberman said that by assigning full-time mentors to and getting jobs for the most at-risk students, the district can intervene before kids are enmeshed in violent behavior.

“If we don’t offer enough of a carrot to alter their lifestyle, they won’t bite,” Huberman said…..

“What we need is glue, someone who is literally going to have the time,” he (Huberman) said. The 24-7, 60-hour-a -week mentors will provide that service, he said.” – Chicago Tribune

Replacement parents and mentors! Arne also introduced incentives for paying students real cash money for attendance and for grades above a D.

September 3rd, 2009 at 7:07 pm
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@mooseburger: I’m glad you brought up Reagan. Do you have any documentation to show that Reagan’s Dept. of Education sent curricula guidance to every school in the country requesting that students make posters of quotes from Reagan’s speeches or read books about him???

Do you understand the difference here?

You might also review the fit that Democrats threw when the first President Bush gave a speech to school kids:

http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/09/02/school-children-asked-to-pledge-to-serve-obama/#comment-247248

Will Democrats in Congress be demanding to know how much money Obama’s Dept. of Education is spending on this propaganda exercise?

I wish you libs would be consistent for once but I realize that’s asking too much. You people bitched to high heaven when a Republican President did something much less suspect than the clear Obama propaganda effort and now you don’t like it when we complain?

Give me a break!

September 3rd, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Aqua
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@ mooseburger
While I’ll agree with you that it serves no purpose calling the president names, it’s pretty hard for me to blame anyone after living through the last 8 years of the left calling Bush everything from Hiltler to warmonger, from inbreed hick to intellectual midget. I didn’t hear just a whole lot of protest from the left trying to reel in their moonbats.
I personally wouldn’t have had a problem with the president addressing school children. But let’s face it, having them write letters detailing how they can help the president is just bs. Even the White House backed down on that.
On another note, I’m not a big Glenn Beck fan. I’d rather watch reruns of Stargate or Stargate Atlantis. But I catch some of his stuff on internet posts. If the Van Jones stuff doesn’t make you take pause, I don’t think anything Obama ever does will.

September 3rd, 2009 at 7:17 pm
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I posted the following link on another FA article, appearing today… is also appropriate to this conversation…

There was a lot of critique on this video during its’ debut…Andrew Breitbart’s critique was very apropos…and gave me another perspective.

Breitbart – Jan 19.2009…
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/abreitbart/2009/01/19/where-were-you-celebrities-after-911/

One of the harder-hitting passages included…
Twenty years ago AIDS was the number one cause for the Hollywood left. Remember the trendy red ribbons at all the self-aggrandizing awards shows? Hollywood has moved on (dot org) to better blame-your-fellow-American causes…

September 3rd, 2009 at 7:26 pm
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moose: I will say you are strong advocates for your cause, and if it means much to you or not, I can absolutely respect that. And you too Old Trooper, however, the Nazi, Fascist, Socialist, and racial (comment # 57) venom goes unchallenged and I believe the above mentioned writers in fact condone and encourage it. It furthers their cause, while they can keep their hands “clean” at the same time.

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I don’t hear anyone speak up and say hey, that might be a bit over the line.

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As long as I have been posting here, I have never witnessed anyone having the guts to call out some of the Rightwing nutjobs, as long as they are anti Obama, they seem to have a nice friendly home here posting their Nazi, molest young children, killing jews crap.

You are so full of moose manure, moose. I can only speak for myself since I can’t and won’t track every thread. But you have seen Mike and I challenge each other, my battles with the former Canadian “Craig” on this site, and my battles with many a libertarian on 2nd Amendment.

On the other hand, I don’t reside at FA merely to play nanny correction to every comment with which you take exception. It’s not my job to reprimand someone – or everyone – that does or does not have PC manners that meet your standards, or even mine for that matter. And in fact, if you have a problem with authors and moderators *not* reining in comments to your satisfaction, I suggest you stay away from DailyKOs, Huffpo, Firedoglake and other sundry popular left wing blogs. And I do believe that Aye Chi just recently did an entire post of offensive material by a blogger subscribed to the MyBarackObama DNC funded website.

So spare me your lack of moral equivalence, and your demand for cyber policing every one else’s comments that you may find offensive. Not my job, bubba. I suggest you look to the hate excuded by your own and work on them…. if you feel you have that little respect for the 1st amendment, and that thin of cyber skin.

And on topic….. I’d kick that guy out of my classroom… POTUS or not… if he even suggested they write about supporting HIM and not the country. “Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country ME, President Obama.” My how the accepted concept of “Camelot” has changed.

The man is offensive not only as a POTUS, but now as a human being. He and his handlers’ ego know no bounds.

September 3rd, 2009 at 8:41 pm
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@MataHarley: It’s so hypocritical of these lefties who for eight years under President Bush poured their poison down the well of political discourse and now complain about how bad the water tastes. They wrote these rules and now they don’t like it. We warned them not to do it and that payback would be a bitch, but they didn’t listen.

So screw ‘em. They’re only reaping what they have sown.

@American Voter: great find:

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/abreitbart/2009/01/19/where-were-you-celebrities-after-911/

It was written before the Inauguration in January. A couple of excerpts:\

God bless, President Obama. Even though I didn’t vote for him, and disagree with much of his agenda, he has my best wishes and all of my best efforts.

But that doesn’t mean I will forgive and forget an era of narcissism, petty complaining and conspiracy theory peddling from the majority celebrity class that began well before Iraq. [See "Hollywood, Interrupted " -- my book co-written with Mark Ebner -- which was written before and during the build-up to the Iraq war and before the WMDs weren't found. The public behavior from Hollywood even then was almost uniformly deplorable.]

Conspiracy theories of America’s complicity in 9/11 dominated cocktail party discussions for eight tedious years. They couldn’t simply disagree with Bush. They had to ascribe evil to his motivations and make sure the whole world agreed on that flawed premise.

Yet, hating the president doesn’t mean one can’t still help out the country in a great time of need. But many went to foreign countries and demeaned it instead. Called those that disagreed with them rubes and hicks. The elitism of the celebrities against flyover country America could not have been more pronounced. They made a boat-load of movies that affirmed this narrow and patronizing world view.

And now they want us back.

We’re all Americans — NOW.

This video illustrates that the current celebrity class are not citizens but serfs. They need a leader to put their minds in the right place to do the right thing. They are not heroic individualists seeking to extend America’s promise but conformists who chose to sit out and complain during the tough years in order to ensure their guy got in the next go-around.

Remember this video: It is a instructive relic of the era of celebrity decadence and boutique anti-Republican activism under President Bush. It is a sickening display that they want fast and easy absolution for having comported themselves like ill-behaved children for eight difficult and war-torn years.

Good luck, President Obama. The rest of you can go to hell.

September 3rd, 2009 at 9:25 pm
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@mooseburger:

Your screeds from earlier in this thread were directly related to the actions that the Secret Service took that day.

Oh, you tried to mask them with criticisms of President Bush, but anyone who knows the facts of that day will know that the Secret Service agents and the protective detail are the ones who were making the decisions that you are having such trouble with.

It was rather cute of you to point out various comments here and there through the thread as you try to change the original focus of what you were engaging in.

Let me ask you moose. If you didn’t like the comments that were posted way back in the thread then why the hell didn’t you post a response directed toward the individual comments yourself? Instead of doing that you go off on some partisan hack witch hunt aimed at the Secret Service.

I know why.

The reason why you didn’t address the previous comments is that they were a non issue from the beginning with you. You threw your little partisan foot stomping temper tantrum which promptly blew up in your face so then you were looking for a way to justify what was clearly over the line.

Sorry, that didn’t work out so well for you.

As I said before, the Secret Service knows no party. They know no ideology. They are professionals committed to a job and, as I said to you earlier, you could only dream of emulating their qualities.

In your latest emission you have attacked not only Curt, the blog founder and owner, but the entire list of authors here as well. It’s never a good idea to insult a homeowner while you’re a guest in his house.

Heck, you even went so far as to include ChrisG who is now deceased. How classy of you.

There have been people thrown out of here for less than what you did. We’ll have to see what Curt thinks about things when he gets a chance to read it.

Look on the bright side moose. If you don’t like what FA has to offer you, or if Curt deems you inadequate to remain, then AlGore’s Interwebz is a great big place.

You should have no trouble finding yourself some greener pastures in which to graze.

September 3rd, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Deb B
 108Reply to this comment  

Just take a look at the dictionary entry for the word pledge…

Main Entry: 1pledge
Pronunciation: \ˈplej\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English plegge security, from Anglo-French plege, from Late Latin plebium, from *plebere to pledge, probably of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German pflegan to take care of — more at plight
Date: 14th century
1 a : a bailment of a chattel as security for a debt or other obligation without involving transfer of title b : the chattel so delivered c : the contract incidental to such a bailment
2 a : the state of being held as a security or guaranty b : something given as security for the performance of an act
3 : a token, sign, or earnest of something else
4 : a gage of battle
5 : toast 3
6 a : a binding promise or agreement to do or forbear b (1) : a promise to join a fraternity, sorority, or secret society (2) : a person who has so promised

To summarize, what we are being asked to do is offer a security of our very selves on the condition of performance of an act of service. Such act is to be binding and have the effect of joining a fraternity under the auspices of service to President Obama. Phew! I thought it was something serious…(ein, zwei, drei)

http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pledge; accessed September 4, 2009 1:13 AST

September 4th, 2009 at 2:18 am
Deb B
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The transitive verb definition of pledge in the same source shows the word “pawn” which is hyperlinked in the source for further clarification. But, seriously, do we need much more clarification than this?

1 : to make a pledge of; especially : pawn
2 : to drink to the health of
3 : to bind by a pledge
4 : to promise the performance of by a pledge

September 4th, 2009 at 2:22 am
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@Deb B: Pawns seems to describe these Hollywooders very well.

September 4th, 2009 at 7:27 am
Rebecca in Ohio
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Hey, I could have written that script:

I pledge that – now that someone I agree with is in the White House – to do all the things I should have been doing any way.

I pledge to no longer reguard those who don’t agree with me as morons to be made fun of, but as misguided fools who need to be shown a better way – or possibly as anti-American terrorists.

I pledge to now expect America to solve all the world’s problems, instead of saying that we had no right to go into other countries and tell them how to live.

I pledge to now say I am pround to be an American, instead of saying I’m ashamed like I have been the past eith years.

I pledge to be the perfect, shining example that I have always been, so that others may know to which ideal to aspire.

I pledge allegence to Barack Obama
Of the United States of Barack Obama
And to the Barack Obama
For which he stands,
One nation under Barack Obama,
Indivisible,
With Barack Obama for all.

September 4th, 2009 at 10:27 am
mooseburger
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Aye: Do as you will, you called me an **shole because you didn’t like my sarcastic 180 degree milder version replay of the same crap you folks running this blog deem proper and in good taste, as I pointed out in comment 100. You point out the kooky left extreme who I agree as wrong headed, and your disgust for them, but condone your own brand of Nazi comparing hate. Those who do that and condone that are no better in the big picture of things than those you claim to despise on the left. By their actions they show they are cut from the same fabric.

There seems to be few rules here at FA except Conservatives good, Liberal bad, after that, anything including Jew hating Nazi Monkey ear Obama is readily accepted here. It has become a good portion of the everyday theme here, the glue that holds the hate together amongst the fraterenity of Americans who despise fellow Americans all while thumping the Bible and calling themselves Conservative Christians. The comment was made that it is not some “folks” job to be cyber policman, fair enough, except there is no shortage of zeal and ammo thrown at opposing views, they always always get challenged here. I don’t have a problem with that challenging, and in fact, is part of why I come here.

The point is folks running this blog find time, energy and info to defend heartily against any and all Liberal assertions, and knowingly wink at the Nazi references, the monkey ear crap, the idea that every Liberal, or maybe more correctly said, any non true Conservative hates America. I could dig through many many threads here and find the same thing over and over. How is that fair to any and all of the non true Conservative soldiers who may have served and even died for their Country? Did they hate America and want to destroy it? I really doubt it.

Can’t find the time and not your job to address or slow down that extreme hate stuff here? That is the exact same behavior that that is deplored from the extreme Libs, who by the way are guilty of it as well, and by your inactions you are just like them, some of you and the Libs who have extreme hate are the same in that regard. Not every person who voted for Obama pulled a straight ticket, believes in the radical extreme from either side, or has no capacity to know right from wrong or change their mind and vote differently next time. You call me an **shole, I don’t take it personal, it just shows that you are OK with gutter low tactics just like those from the Libs you hate so much, and that the Jr. High excuse of “they are just as bad or worse” and “they did it too” is good enough reason to tolerate the Hitler, child molesting, Jew Killing, Monkey ear trash that you allow to be repesentative of the blog here. As long as it promotes your own version of the same Bush is Hitler crap used before and hated by you, then it is just fine. They did it too. Your sensitivity is only engaged when an anti Conservative sentiment is posted.

Aye said: “Heck, you even went so far as to include ChrisG who is now deceased. How classy of you.”

My condolences on the loss of ChrisG, and I am sorry I put his name on the list.

and, how classy of you to allow the over the line comments and hate, Nazi, jew killin’ monkey ear crap be a representation of his name, (unless you knew him well enough that he would have been cool with that…..)

September 4th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
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@mooseburger: The very name you use to comment is in bad taste and yet you persist.

How would you like it if someone on our side persisted in using a comment name which was so clearly derogatory of Obama?

Heck, if we used anything like that we’d probably be arrested by the Secret Service.

Again, you people poisoned the well of polite political discourse during the Bush years and now complain about the taste of the water.

Get over it. You reap what you sow.

September 4th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
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@mooseburger:

You really aren’t too terribly bright are you?

Your first two diatribes were solely focused on the actions of President Bush on the morning of 9/11 criticizing him for this, that, and the other thing.

What you didn’t take the time to consider, however, is that his actions that morning were being directed and driven by the Secret Service. I took the time to type all of that out for you very slowly and in great detail so you wouldn’t be confused.

You’ll notice that while disassembling your argument I didn’t defend President Bush. I didn’t need to do that because, ultimately, the Secret Service was your target. I guess you weren’t astute enough to even realize where you were aiming your arrows.

Then, when it became apparent to you that your tactic had blown up in your face, that’s when you started whining about other comments on this site which you deem offensive or inappropriate.

The same comments mind you that you had multiple opportunities to speak up about but yet, for whatever reason, you didn’t.

You also didn’t click on any of the e-mail links which abound on these pages in order to send a note to Curt, or any one of the rest of us, to alert us to what was going on. You know that comments here are not moderated and common sense and basic logic should inform you that we’re not on these pages every minute of the day and night reading every comment that is posted.

Like I said earlier though, the reality is that those comments had nothing whatsoever to do with what you had to say. Your later complaints about them, after you failed to confront the person who posted them as well as not bringing them to someone’s attention ring empty and hollow.

Your efforts remind me a lot of the deathbed remorse we saw from Uncle Teddy last week. Too late and completely unconvincing.

In your latest steaming pile of dog squeeze you accuse us of excusing comments here under the reasoning that we just endured eight years of much worse even though the reality is something entirely different.

What’s striking however is that in the same post you gripe about the words of someone else you admit that you’re engaging in what you see as comparable behavior because someone else did it first.

How hypocritical can you get?

I called you an asshole because you attacked and maligned the Secret Service and demeaned their efforts while diminishing the events of 9/11 in order to score points.

The term fits.

September 4th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
mooseburger
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Mike: why is mooseburger derogatory? because I am not a Conservative? I think you are more offended by my views than by my username here. Would you prefer Squirrelburger? If you really, truly find that name offensive Mike, I will strongly consider using another handle here.

Lee Atwater really started the modern “peel the bark off the basta*d” movement, other than when Nixon sent those burglars into the Dem headquarters..Limbaugh had his America held hostage during the Clinton years, and yep, the Libs went Apesh** during Bush. The well is indeed bitter. It’s been going on a long time. Calling the President a Nazi or Hitler is wrong, wrong, wrong, no matter who does it, Right or Left wingers.

Aye: you speak of respect for the Secret Service while you condone the Nazi crap about the President. Or at least it seems like your going along with it….correct me if I’m wrong here.

My bringing up Bush in that school was sarcasm and not meant to be defended, and in fact, if I were posting the same or worse against Liberals and Obama, I doubt you would have had a problem with it at all. It is hard to take some of the things said here seriously sometimes. It seems like psyco Obama derangement syndrome, just like Bush DS, maybe up a notch or so and getting more mainstream. I can see how you could draw the distinction about the Secret Service, but that was not my intent. I just don’t believe that the President is trying to brainwash those kids by talking to them about doing well in school. The White House laid out the agenda imperfectly, and reeled it back some, and I am glad they did. I chose sarcasm because, #1 it is in my nature, and not one of my better characteristics, and 2# once Nazi and Hitler become part of the dialogue rational discussion is pretty much history at that point. The Hitler stuff came up way before I even found this posting and responded with my comments.

And Aye, if you recall I have spoken up in the past about some comments, but I didn’t realize that if I am offended or find comments inappropriate, it was a duty of mine to bring it up everytime. I can only figure that perhaps YOU don’t find them inappropriate, or feel a need to respond to them. Probably because anti Conservative comments jump out and offend you, whereas perhaps Nazi Jewhater Monkeyears Childmolester doesn’t bother you much as long as it’s directed at those whom you oppose. In other words:

Liberals spouting Liberal stuff here–folks repond swiftly, strongly, and even throw some cool words like stupid, UnAmerican, Nazi, Ect for good measure. It is cool and accepted practice to personally demean those who believe something different than we do here.

Conservatives spouting Nazi comparing, Jew hater, child molester Monkey ear stuff here:
Folks respond with the old Winky, Winky, I didn’t notice that since the comments are unmoderated…..and even when they are brought to your attention, it is still someone else’s fault or responsibility for them not following through on the issue. It’s been brought to your attention, and it does appear you have a much higher tolerance for Nazi monkeyear comparisons than I initially gave you credit for, or than would appear reasonable.

September 4th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
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@mooseburger, big mac, bkburger, or whatever…
so many words so little time…Can you say all of that again?

Your logic is so moronic — you must have made a mistake — too many fries on the brain? Even the neighbor’s home schoolers blew your posts apart with a laugh — go talk to Czar Johnson….you MAY make sense to him???? But hurry….

September 4th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Pledger
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I pledge God, small Government, and the 2nd amendment…. I do believe in Peace when I have the bigger gun. Can you say “Revolution?” My kids will be “sick” the morning of the event.

September 5th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
ditto
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@ Mooseburger.

I often disagree with people on both sides who post on this board. I quite often point out that I don’t trust either party. Democrats or Republicans. Nor am I wild about Libertarians who tend to be even more “Pro-Corporate” than most Republicans. Hell, I don’t like politicians in general. I don’t mind at all pointing out instances where both “major” parties have been guilty of the same or similar behavior. There is a lot that I disagree with Republicans, but the major posters and authors here in FA don’t slap me down as being a “___ing liberal commie!” (and worse, which I assure you I have had thrown at me Republican sites.) I think it is at least partially because I try to provide facts that prove and support my statements, rather than relying on propaganda and talking points. If you want to argue with people on this board, I’d advise you stop using the tactics used on the Huffington Post and KOS, and bring in good facts to back your side of the argument. (HINT: biased propaganda is not fact.) If you think they are wrong, or even if you think that a Republican is spouting propaganda, lies etc… use truth and fact to prove them wrong.

I detest Nancy Pelosi, Chris Dodd, Barny Frank, Chuck Shumer, Barbara Boxer, Waxman, that pompous ass Al Gore and that idiot Conyers. I used to think Harry Reid was “maybe ok” but no longer.

On the other hand, I detested David Duke, Bob Dole and former AG Gonzales. I didn’t like Cheney, Bob Dole, Rush Limbaugh, George Bush Jr or Sr. I enjoyed McCain as a person, but he was a poor choice to nominate. I didn’t like Arlen Specter before, and like him less now. I thought Gerald Ford was just about as clueless as Jimmy Carter.

While I didn’t agree with everything they said, I actually enjoyed listening to Ron Paul, Ross Perot, and while I think that they could be a little bit nutty sounding at times, they all often make very good points. I feel about the same about FOX New’s Glenn Beck.

I make no bones about the fact that I don’t like Obama. I think he is a self-serving fraud. An ideological charlatan who has been foisted on us by a propaganda machine of bunch of blind fools who are blissfully unaware they are being had. I happen to agree that his agenda and that of those of similar mind is a radical one to transform this country into yet another form of socialism. I was disgusted by the cowardly smear campaign on Sara Palin, and admired her fortitude and forthrightness as the MSM collective dropped all pretense of objectivity to destroy her. In fact, the more they did it, the more I liked her. The MSM has shown their true face and liberal bias, and that I consider the most welcome change that the Obama Campaign has had on society. The masks have come off.

Now buck-up and argue like a serious debater instead of some partisan wonk on Crossfire.

September 6th, 2009 at 4:06 am
memememememe
 119Reply to this comment  

end slavery by abolishing the IRS, stop being a 60 percent slave to the government.

September 6th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Maureen Sloan
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If this does not scare all of you nothing will…I am boycotting, especially Demi and Ashton who PLEDGE TO OBAMA directly, never to see another flick they make…They have theirs, and ours is being taken away…taking my kids out of school when and if this is presented…WE ARE AMERICANS AND OUR ALLEGIANCE IS TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA….NOT this man who is pushing socialism, socialized medicine down our throats, private militia…WE WILL BE LIKE CUBA….oh so wonderful….Ever talk to someone who has lived there….They stole their jewelry, took their property, etc…and all of Obama’s friends are from Venezuela, chavez, oh those wonderful Castro boys, and THIS CREEP BAD MOUTHS THE U.S OVERSEAS? He also was not up to the job of entertaining the Prime Minister of Ireland…”too tired…this is a tough job”….HE IS A DISGRACE AND NEEDS TO RESIGN, OR GET IMPEACHED…HE HAS BROUGHT THE COUNTRY TO IT’S KNEES IN JUST A FEW MONTHS…IMAGINE A FEW MORE YEARS? ANYONE OUT THERE PAYING ATTENTION…i SURE AM….planning on moving …And you all thought Bush was bad? Had no more attacks on the U.S. after 9/11….with this guy, he is decreasing the military and increasing BAILOUTS TO AIG…LET EM GO BANKRUPT LIKE THE REST OF US WHO CAN’T MAKE IT…..THESE GUYS GET BONUSES OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS? IS THIS INSANE…Oh, car dealers are not giving titles to the people who got the CAsh for Clunkers, another great program, because the feds, have no given the car dealers the $4500 so people cannot register the cars!!! What a guy…EVERYTHING HE TOUCHES TURNS TO DOO DOO….HE HAS TO GO….We own part of GM, AIG, chrysler motors…NOT ALLOWED IN CONSTIution….GUESS THE BAMA NEVER READ IT….HOW MANY TRILLION IN DEFICIT AND CLIMBING DAILY….AND YOU GUYS LIKE THIS FREAK? FINISH AND WIN THE WAR IN IRAQ/AFGHANISTAN…JUST NUKE EM AND GET IT OVER WITH…DON’T PUT SOLDIERS IN HARMS WAY…FOR GOD SAKE!

September 6th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
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@Maureen Sloan: I hear you Maureen. Just remember, we have at least three and a half more years of this stuff to endure (I hope conservatives who sat out 2006 and 2008 have learned their lesson).

Keep some of your powder dry so you don’t get burnt out on it all. Obama is pushing A LOT of our buttons on purpose hoping to drive us to despair.

We can’t let this poseur president win.

September 6th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
American Veteran
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I absolutely will not make a Pledge to the “baCZAR” Obama.

Perhaps Our real God is trying to get our attention in all of this. As a nation we have turned away from the one and true God of the Bible.
The God of Heaven and Earth is the ONLY God we need to worship and obey
I pledge to to do just that

September 7th, 2009 at 7:14 am
Deb B
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I read the transcript of the speech President Obama is scheduled to deliver to the nation’s school children tomorrow. I must say I was impressed. It is remarkably apolitical to my mind. Still, I can’t help but wonder what the original drafts may have contained…but, ah well…
I wonder too at the impotence of the dems–they have a theoretical lock on votes the repubs have never known, but they are finding they must still bend to pressure from what is supposedly a weak minority! Publishing the speech in advance (something that likely wasn’t planned until the furor over possible political content arose), the resignation of Van Jones (glory! hallelujah!), the apparent stagnation of the health reform legislation proposed by libs, all show that a vibrant vocal involved populus is exactly what is necessary to keep democratic discourse alive. Looking forward to 2010! Republicans and Independents: it is time to figure out what we’re about philosophically and individually and to communicate those ideals clearly.

September 7th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
AdrianS
 124Reply to this comment  

It’s not the MESSAGE, it’s the messenger. With what is known to be fact about Obama, his sinister lies and obfuscation of the issues, his socialistic plans, and the company that he entertains; Obama is NOT the role-model for any but the foolish and cynical.

September 7th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
JohnMcClane
 125Reply to this comment  

From the President of the United States:

Write me a letter — and I’m serious about this one — write me a letter about ways you can help us achieve our goals. I think you know the address.

President George H.W. Bush
October 1, 1991
http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?id=3450&year=1991&month=10

Former First Lady Laura Bush:

“I think there is a place for the president … to talk to schoolchildren and encourage” them, she said. Parents should follow his example and “encourage their own children to stay in school and to study hard and to try to achieve the dream that they have.”

Bush indicated that she didn’t think it was fair for Obama to be labeled a “socialist” by critics and expressed her disappointment with the intensely polarized nature of contemporary American politics.

September 7, 2009
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/07/laura.bush/

Who was the last person to call someone an a##&ole?
Van (not the Man) Jones

September 7th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
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@JohnMcClane: Do you not understand the difference between an invitation to schoolchildren to write letters to their elected officials and a requirement that students write letters on how they can help a particular leader (OBAMA)?

Enough with these phony comparisons. They are about as transparent as your comment name.

Oh, and since you cited Laura Bush, does this mean you are now more likely to vote Republican in 2010 and 2012?

Yeah… sure!

September 7th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Obama Bin Hussein
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After our Dear Leader’s spending and nationalization spree it’s obvious that our former Dear Leader, “W”, was wrong about 44 not being a Socialist.

It was rather ridiculous denying that Obama is a Socialist in the first place. Gordon Brown is a Socialist, but that is not a handicap in the UK. So “W” gave way too nice of a favor for Mr. Spread The Wealth Around.

Dont cut any slack for liars like Obama, Dodd, Murtha, Jackson Jr, Frank, Waters, Reid, Pelosi, etc… And these lowlife parasites live off of our taxpayer money? Holy Cow!!!!!!!!!!!! Don’t be afraid, show your dissent!

September 8th, 2009 at 1:29 am
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Dear “John McClane” I wrote the post you reference. Again, do you not grasp the difference between inviting students to write you a letter and instructions from teachers requiring you to do so? Did President Bush require students to be held “accountable” for the content of their letters?

Or should I have Sarah Planin explain it to you?

September 8th, 2009 at 8:22 am
JohnMcClane
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Or should I have Sarah Planin explain it to you?

Yeah, have Sarah Planin explain it to me!
You betcha!
Maybe she’ll do a better job of explain these “orders” and “requirements”

September 8th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Hard Right
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John, you don’t appear to be smart enough to understand.

And for you leftists, proof of what flaming hypocrites you are.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/When-Bush-spoke-to-students-Democrats-investigated-held-hearings-57694347.html

September 8th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
mooseburger
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Proof of what hypocrites some Conservatives are:

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-duvall10-2009sep10,0,2300584.story

The Capitol Resource Institute, a conservative, self-described “pro-family” advocacy organization that had given Duvall a “100%” score for his voting record on issues of concern to the group, denounced the lawmaker in a statement today. .

“It is always disappointing when a champion of traditional values does not practice the same in his private life,” said Karen England, executive director of CRI. “And this appears to be the case with Assemblyman Duvall.”

Well, at least the Capitol Resource Institute still considers him a “champion of traditional values”

So, when your calling out hypocrites, (not to mention other “champions” like Sanford, Ensign, ect.) just remember that some of the best world class hypocrites reside in both parties, and hardly have an ideological stranglehold on either party.

Obama won and the Democrats have the majority in both Houses. Obama ran on a platform and he is going to try to achieve it. Conservatives can accept the reality that they lost the election and both Houses, work hard to constructively promote their agenda while mitigating the Democrats agenda, using facts and logic, or not. They can continue to throw their tantrums, call names, and toss out their Nazi Socialist accusations and death panel threats. We are clear on what Conservatives are against (anything from Obama), but not so sure what they are for except for being “born again” anti deficit converts, after Dick “deficits don’t matter” Cheney and Companys preached the exact opposite in the last administration. They are in the minority now because of the judgment of the American people and that is the boat they find themselves in after 8 years of “leadership” and 6 years with total control of the whole shebang. The deficit and the economy were out of control before the Nov 2008 election even got here, back then, it was argued that it had little short term effect on the economy and was a vindications of Reagan’s record regarding the deficit.

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_52/b3914021_mz007.htm

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/245esggv.asp

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A26402-2004Jun8?language=printer

Now, the Conservatives have had their “come to Jesus” deficit epiphany, by the hand of the American Voters.

The people have voted and spoken, and with or without constructive input from the Republicans and some Blue Dog Dems, change has been demanded by the American voters, elections were held, the peoples will was made clear and change will happen. We voted for it and we demand it. If Conservatives don’t want to be involved in the solutions, fine, it will be shoved down their throats by default. This is what the Nov 2008 election was all about.

September 9th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
JohnMcClane
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I noticed that Mike has yet to provide evidence of the orders given to “require” students to write Obama and tell them how they will support him.
Did Reagan take responsibility for the fools he put in at the Education Department who went around talking about “Martin Lucifer Coon?

It seems Mike’s office at the EPA was where they dumped all the toxins and dioxins and other pollutants. How else can one explain such rabid stupidity?

It’s quite clear, to paraphrase one of my favorite historical characters, that Mike knows as much about the truth as he does about f*&^ing.

Atleast Cindy Sheehan has an explanation for her insanity.
Her son died in a war of dubious causes and his mission was mocked by his commander in chief.
As Walt Kowalski would say, well Glory F*7^ing Hallelujah.

September 9th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Hard Right
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Your rabid stupidity can be explained by inbreeding and drug abuse JM.
You trolls will not succeed in silencing the people on this site or disrupting it, so go back to puffho, DUNG, or romp with you fellow koslims.

September 9th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
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John McClaine: Your comment is pointless and a waste of time.

Just like Mooseburgers.

You guys need to grow up.

September 9th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Hard Right
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Moose, the one with issues accepting things is you and your kind. You can’t accept that obama and the dems are self destructing. You want to blame us. In your mind if we just bent over and played dead everything would be fine. It wouldn’t improve things any, but you foaming at the mouth leftist loons were never big on facing reality. The left attacked over anything and everything and destroyed civil debate. Now that we are going after legitimate issues with a fervor not seen in a long time while giving you a tatse of your own medicine you want to whine and cry about it. Guess what? It’s not going to stop and the suddenly increased attacks of your fellow vermin only tells us we are on the right track.
You are such an **shole and it only gets worse the more you post. You accuse the Reps of hurling insults and hate when it’s you and your kind that has been guilty of doing so to the point of openly wishing for Bush’s murder for 8 years.
You have been utterly embarrassed when you tried to debate more knowledgeable people here about healthcare, but claim they aren’t using facts. As usual you group think types just vomit what you’ve been told to say by your leaders. Your kind does it all in the name of gaining power and dominance at the expense and lives of others.
As for the National Socialist label, it fits you and that is why it is getting used. Like the American left, they too believed in eugenics and deciding what rights citizens should or should not have in addition to taking control of large swaths of industry. Whine all you want, you’ve exposed yourself as a scumbag.

September 9th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
mooseburger
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Hard Right: I love you too man.
Truth is, Dems are in power and Conservatives not. The American people decided that. They rejected Bush, McCain and Palin and your tactics as well. Cry and call folks **shole and scumbag all you like, it will not change reality. I’m glad to support your right to be uncivil if that’s your choice. The uncivil children in the room rarely keep the adults from doing what needs done. It will get done, because the people voted for Obama based on what he promised to do. And they expect it to get done, if that means by cooperation and agreement with the loyal opposition, or if that means shoving it down their throats.

As for Limp Rights accusation: “You are such an **shole and it only gets worse the more you post. You accuse the Reps of hurling insults and hate when it’s you and your kind that has been guilty of doing so to the point of openly wishing for Bush’s murder for 8 years.”

I have never said, advocated, thought, wished or hoped for such a thing as the Murder of Bush. Your way off based, and you should not accuse me of such a serious crime without proof….of which you have none in regard to me. Show anywhere where I even hinted at such a thing….ever…I won’t ask for an apology, because I know you have little capacity to even understand half of the crap and baseless accusations you throw out towards others in your outpouring of emotion while defending your views, and this is the method by which you hope to advance your Conservative agenda. And I hope you and the rest of the Conservatives keep it up. It works well for you and those like you, but it just shows the rest of the country why we rejected that type of tactic last election. Like Rep. Joe Wilson’s yelling out “Lie” during Obama’s speech:

http://www.politico.com/politico44/

Rep. Joe Wilson’s outburst – the South Carolina Republican shouted “lie” after Obama claimed his reform plans would not fund health care for illegal immigrants – was “totally disrespectful,” McCain told CNN’s Larry King.

Keep that up my friend, the whole country needs so see that type of statesmanship and solutions the Conservative bring to the table. Like a young child throwing a tantrum because he didn’t win and is unhappy, so are you being perceived by the nation, and if you think that helps your cause, pour it on Limpy.

September 9th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
JohnMcClane
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So Mike can’t provide the proof of the orders and requirements.

Yeah, evidence is pointless, Eye patch Mike.

September 9th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
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1. I don’t take anyone with a comment name like “John McClane” seriously. So you’ll understand why I don’t want to waste my time responding to you.

2. The lesson plans distributed by the Dept. of Education clearly state that students should write letters on how they can help Obama and then be held “accountable” for them.

You want to call that something other than an order or requirement that’s fine by me.

The fact is, these instructions are blatantly political.

Now go bother someone else. The adults are busy tonight!

September 9th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Hard Right
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Moosebrain, you are an *sshole AND a raging hypocrite. You DELIBERATELY ignore how the dems acted for 8 years so you can bash Conservatives when they so much as utter a peep you don’t approve of.
Let’s not forget how they attacked the average Joe for protesting and asking them hard questions at town hall meetings. Who is uncivil?
Again, the ONLY ones keeping the dems from getting anything done is the DEMS! Being a leftist like you means never having to deal with reality. When you lose in 2010 and 2012 you’ll probably blame “the right wing noise machine”…again. So spare me your tantrum about how you’re going to ram it down our throats. Your side is still trying to find it’s ass.

As for what the people voted for, they are truly learning what that is now. That’s why the obomination’s approval ratings are soooo low. Keep pretending massive govt. intrusion/taxes/destruction of the economy/country is what they wanted. You are going to learn the hard way that if the “health reform” bill goes thru, the dems that voted for it will be out of a job. In fact, it will likely serve to innoculate the public from voting dem for 10-20 years. So please keep believing people want what leftist vermin like you push and continue to push it.

Lastly, I talk civily with those that deserve it or those that are not bigotted leftists pretending to be something else. You do not deserve it, and are clearly a moonbat. When confronted with facts that prove you wrong you ignore them, switch subjects, move the goal posts, use straw men, try moral equivalence, or just become a flaming *sshole. I understand that talking to mooonbats such as yourself is like talking to the homeless guy chatting up a brick wall. Liberalism is definitely a mental illness and you, Joe, JM, and ken prove it.
I’m done with ya.

September 9th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
JohnMcClane
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2. The lesson plans distributed by the Dept. of Education clearly state that students should write letters on how they can help Obama and then be held “accountable” for them.

To who?
No one of course.

You want to call that something other than an order or requirement that’s fine by me.

As John McLaughlin would say
“I’m right, you’re wrong. Issue 2″.

Eye patch Mike.

Mike’s America
Like Mickey’s America
Only Goofier.

September 9th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
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“When confronted with facts that prove you wrong you ignore them, switch subjects, move the goal posts, use straw men, try moral equivalence, or just become a flaming *sshole. “

I couldn’t have said it better! But he’s only doing what his master Obama has shown him how to do…. Mossy is just a pawn in the Dems cynical game.

September 9th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
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>John “McLame” you have simply confirmed, not that it was necessary, that any time spent responding to you is a waste of time.

Clearly, you don’t really give a hoot how Obama misuses the Dept. of Education, or what instructions they give to teachers and ultimately to students.

Obviously, you are not a serious person with whom one could hope to have a useful exchange of ideas…

Now, perhaps you need to find some other blog post to haunt as further comments by you on this post will be deleted. I’ve wasted enough time on fools for today.

September 9th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
mooseburger
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Hard Right said: “Moosebrain, you are an *sshole AND a raging hypocrite. You DELIBERATELY ignore how the dems acted for 8 years so you can bash Conservatives when they so much as utter a peep you don’t approve of.
Let’s not forget how they attacked the average Joe for protesting and asking them hard questions at town hall meetings. Who is uncivil?
“Lastly, I talk civily with those that deserve it or those that are not bigotted leftists pretending to be something else.”

Point taken, so……but I have actually quit bashing Republicans and have started encouraging them to speak out, yell, Socialist, Marxist, liar, and any and all uneducated bad manners angry mob tactics they prefer. Like a one trick Pony, America is gettin’ tired of the same old show, and while those tactics get attention in the short term, you will lose respect in the long term, and it’s probably not helping you to advance your Conservative agenda. Even Joe Wilson tried to call Obama and grovel for forgiveness probably under pressure from fellow Republicans aware of the public perception of the Conservatives reaction to this event.

And I see you have not come up with ANY comment EVER where I said, implied, wished for Bush to be murdered. You can toss around and blame the Dems and their attacks for the last 8 years, yet accuse someone else of much worse, a Federal crime, and feel mighty good about that. Then say “I’m done with ya” because you can’t defend your BS all while you throw out more insults. That’s about the only effective tactic you got in your bag that you can sustain, because your credibility regarding your accusation is now zero since you can’t prove your utterly stupid accusation of what could be a Federal crime. But that’s OK because I hope you guys keep that behavior up and encourage your Conservative Representatives to do likewise. The nuttier your guys get, the more we like it and the longer it stays in the news cycle.

September 9th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
jloleigh
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I pledge to never be a part of Obama’s schemes…. He is not the one everyone thinks he is, he tells everyone what they want to hear, watch and see one day when we all have woke up, this world will be gone straight to hell! It was on the path before but what I am talking about will hit all at once. He wants to cut military why? he wants to take guns away why? he wants people to bow down to him! I do not bow to no one, my children will never bow down to know one. He wants to take Fox off the air because they tell the truth about him, he wants all christian radio stations off the air… what is wrong with this picture? JFK was nothing like this and ended up in the grave yard what is the problem with todays society. We as Americans must stand up for what we believe , President or no President he is getting the U.S. in more trouble and wants to be seen as a God in my book, there is only one God and it sure isnt Obama.

September 10th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Aqua
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@ mooseburger
I usually try to stick to the facts and argue the points. But dude, get off your high horse. First, the dems heckled and booed Bush during the 2005 State of the Union Address. While I agree to a point that calling the president out while he’s giving a speech to a joint session of congress may not be in good taste, who else is going to do it? The MSM? They are in bed with the man, lock, stock and barrell and all you have to do is look at Van Jones to know that.
You want to call out Joe Wilson? Fine. You gonna call out Charlie Rangle? How ’bout Tim Geitner? John Murtha? William Jefferson maybe? How about Loretta and Linda Sanchez?

Obama stood in the well of the People’s House and lied repeatedly last night. Who is going to call him out on that? He won’t debate. He said the time for debate is over. And I don’t have to point out all of his lies, he did it for me. Every time he said, “my plan” he lied. He has no plan. He didn’t deliver one to congress. The plan won’t cover illegal aliens? Then why did the democrats defeat an amendment that required verified identification? There were no death panels? Why did the dems pull the end of life counseling? The plan is budget neutral? Why did the CBO laugh at that?

You have no room, at all, to talk.

September 10th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

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