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I apologize for my, uh, rather disjointed post of last night. Never post when you are angry. To atone for the post, I would like to present the results of Arne Duncan’s “leadership” for the Chicago Public Schools:

“Chicago Public Schools officials say they’ll spend about $30 million to target about 1,200 high school students most at risk of committing violence or falling victim to it under a new safety and security plan outlined today.

The students will be selected using risk factors like grades, attendance and serious misconduct in school, District CEO Ron Huberman told the Tribune editorial board.

Based on those factors, district officials predict that 200 students have a more than 20 percent chance of being shot and another 1,000 face a 7.5 percent to 20 percent chance of the same fate.

Huberman said that by assigning full-time mentors to and getting jobs for the most at-risk students, the district can intervene before kids are enmeshed in violent behavior.

“If we don’t offer enough of a carrot to alter their lifestyle, they won’t bite,” Huberman said…..

“What we need is glue, someone who is literally going to have the time,” he (Huberman) said. The 24-7, 60-hour-a -week mentors will provide that service, he said.” – Chicago Tribune

Replacement parents and mentors! Arne also introduced incentives for paying students real cash money for attendance and for grades above a D.

@mooseburger: I’m glad you brought up Reagan. Do you have any documentation to show that Reagan’s Dept. of Education sent curricula guidance to every school in the country requesting that students make posters of quotes from Reagan’s speeches or read books about him???

Do you understand the difference here?

You might also review the fit that Democrats threw when the first President Bush gave a speech to school kids:

School Children Asked to Pledge to Serve Obama?

Will Democrats in Congress be demanding to know how much money Obama’s Dept. of Education is spending on this propaganda exercise?

I wish you libs would be consistent for once but I realize that’s asking too much. You people bitched to high heaven when a Republican President did something much less suspect than the clear Obama propaganda effort and now you don’t like it when we complain?

Give me a break!

@ mooseburger
While I’ll agree with you that it serves no purpose calling the president names, it’s pretty hard for me to blame anyone after living through the last 8 years of the left calling Bush everything from Hiltler to warmonger, from inbreed hick to intellectual midget. I didn’t hear just a whole lot of protest from the left trying to reel in their moonbats.
I personally wouldn’t have had a problem with the president addressing school children. But let’s face it, having them write letters detailing how they can help the president is just bs. Even the White House backed down on that.
On another note, I’m not a big Glenn Beck fan. I’d rather watch reruns of Stargate or Stargate Atlantis. But I catch some of his stuff on internet posts. If the Van Jones stuff doesn’t make you take pause, I don’t think anything Obama ever does will.

I posted the following link on another FA article, appearing today… is also appropriate to this conversation…

There was a lot of critique on this video during its’ debut…Andrew Breitbart’s critique was very apropos…and gave me another perspective.

Breitbart – Jan 19.2009…
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/abreitbart/2009/01/19/where-were-you-celebrities-after-911/

One of the harder-hitting passages included…
Twenty years ago AIDS was the number one cause for the Hollywood left. Remember the trendy red ribbons at all the self-aggrandizing awards shows? Hollywood has moved on (dot org) to better blame-your-fellow-American causes…

@MataHarley: It’s so hypocritical of these lefties who for eight years under President Bush poured their poison down the well of political discourse and now complain about how bad the water tastes. They wrote these rules and now they don’t like it. We warned them not to do it and that payback would be a bitch, but they didn’t listen.

So screw ’em. They’re only reaping what they have sown.

@American Voter: great find:

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/abreitbart/2009/01/19/where-were-you-celebrities-after-911/

It was written before the Inauguration in January. A couple of excerpts:\

God bless, President Obama. Even though I didn’t vote for him, and disagree with much of his agenda, he has my best wishes and all of my best efforts.

But that doesn’t mean I will forgive and forget an era of narcissism, petty complaining and conspiracy theory peddling from the majority celebrity class that began well before Iraq. [See “Hollywood, Interrupted ” — my book co-written with Mark Ebner — which was written before and during the build-up to the Iraq war and before the WMDs weren’t found. The public behavior from Hollywood even then was almost uniformly deplorable.]

Conspiracy theories of America’s complicity in 9/11 dominated cocktail party discussions for eight tedious years. They couldn’t simply disagree with Bush. They had to ascribe evil to his motivations and make sure the whole world agreed on that flawed premise.

Yet, hating the president doesn’t mean one can’t still help out the country in a great time of need. But many went to foreign countries and demeaned it instead. Called those that disagreed with them rubes and hicks. The elitism of the celebrities against flyover country America could not have been more pronounced. They made a boat-load of movies that affirmed this narrow and patronizing world view.

And now they want us back.

We’re all Americans — NOW.

This video illustrates that the current celebrity class are not citizens but serfs. They need a leader to put their minds in the right place to do the right thing. They are not heroic individualists seeking to extend America’s promise but conformists who chose to sit out and complain during the tough years in order to ensure their guy got in the next go-around.

Remember this video: It is a instructive relic of the era of celebrity decadence and boutique anti-Republican activism under President Bush. It is a sickening display that they want fast and easy absolution for having comported themselves like ill-behaved children for eight difficult and war-torn years.

Good luck, President Obama. The rest of you can go to hell.

@mooseburger:

Your screeds from earlier in this thread were directly related to the actions that the Secret Service took that day.

Oh, you tried to mask them with criticisms of President Bush, but anyone who knows the facts of that day will know that the Secret Service agents and the protective detail are the ones who were making the decisions that you are having such trouble with.

It was rather cute of you to point out various comments here and there through the thread as you try to change the original focus of what you were engaging in.

Let me ask you moose. If you didn’t like the comments that were posted way back in the thread then why the hell didn’t you post a response directed toward the individual comments yourself? Instead of doing that you go off on some partisan hack witch hunt aimed at the Secret Service.

I know why.

The reason why you didn’t address the previous comments is that they were a non issue from the beginning with you. You threw your little partisan foot stomping temper tantrum which promptly blew up in your face so then you were looking for a way to justify what was clearly over the line.

Sorry, that didn’t work out so well for you.

As I said before, the Secret Service knows no party. They know no ideology. They are professionals committed to a job and, as I said to you earlier, you could only dream of emulating their qualities.

In your latest emission you have attacked not only Curt, the blog founder and owner, but the entire list of authors here as well. It’s never a good idea to insult a homeowner while you’re a guest in his house.

Heck, you even went so far as to include ChrisG who is now deceased. How classy of you.

There have been people thrown out of here for less than what you did. We’ll have to see what Curt thinks about things when he gets a chance to read it.

Look on the bright side moose. If you don’t like what FA has to offer you, or if Curt deems you inadequate to remain, then AlGore’s Interwebz is a great big place.

You should have no trouble finding yourself some greener pastures in which to graze.

Just take a look at the dictionary entry for the word pledge…

Main Entry: 1pledge
Pronunciation: \ˈplej\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English plegge security, from Anglo-French plege, from Late Latin plebium, from *plebere to pledge, probably of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German pflegan to take care of — more at plight
Date: 14th century
1 a : a bailment of a chattel as security for a debt or other obligation without involving transfer of title b : the chattel so delivered c : the contract incidental to such a bailment
2 a : the state of being held as a security or guaranty b : something given as security for the performance of an act
3 : a token, sign, or earnest of something else
4 : a gage of battle
5 : toast 3
6 a : a binding promise or agreement to do or forbear b (1) : a promise to join a fraternity, sorority, or secret society (2) : a person who has so promised

To summarize, what we are being asked to do is offer a security of our very selves on the condition of performance of an act of service. Such act is to be binding and have the effect of joining a fraternity under the auspices of service to President Obama. Phew! I thought it was something serious…(ein, zwei, drei)

http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pledge; accessed September 4, 2009 1:13 AST

The transitive verb definition of pledge in the same source shows the word “pawn” which is hyperlinked in the source for further clarification. But, seriously, do we need much more clarification than this?

1 : to make a pledge of; especially : pawn
2 : to drink to the health of
3 : to bind by a pledge
4 : to promise the performance of by a pledge

@Deb B: Pawns seems to describe these Hollywooders very well.

Hey, I could have written that script:

I pledge that – now that someone I agree with is in the White House – to do all the things I should have been doing any way.

I pledge to no longer reguard those who don’t agree with me as morons to be made fun of, but as misguided fools who need to be shown a better way – or possibly as anti-American terrorists.

I pledge to now expect America to solve all the world’s problems, instead of saying that we had no right to go into other countries and tell them how to live.

I pledge to now say I am pround to be an American, instead of saying I’m ashamed like I have been the past eith years.

I pledge to be the perfect, shining example that I have always been, so that others may know to which ideal to aspire.

I pledge allegence to Barack Obama
Of the United States of Barack Obama
And to the Barack Obama
For which he stands,
One nation under Barack Obama,
Indivisible,
With Barack Obama for all.

Aye: Do as you will, you called me an **shole because you didn’t like my sarcastic 180 degree milder version replay of the same crap you folks running this blog deem proper and in good taste, as I pointed out in comment 100. You point out the kooky left extreme who I agree as wrong headed, and your disgust for them, but condone your own brand of Nazi comparing hate. Those who do that and condone that are no better in the big picture of things than those you claim to despise on the left. By their actions they show they are cut from the same fabric.

There seems to be few rules here at FA except Conservatives good, Liberal bad, after that, anything including Jew hating Nazi Monkey ear Obama is readily accepted here. It has become a good portion of the everyday theme here, the glue that holds the hate together amongst the fraterenity of Americans who despise fellow Americans all while thumping the Bible and calling themselves Conservative Christians. The comment was made that it is not some “folks” job to be cyber policman, fair enough, except there is no shortage of zeal and ammo thrown at opposing views, they always always get challenged here. I don’t have a problem with that challenging, and in fact, is part of why I come here.

The point is folks running this blog find time, energy and info to defend heartily against any and all Liberal assertions, and knowingly wink at the Nazi references, the monkey ear crap, the idea that every Liberal, or maybe more correctly said, any non true Conservative hates America. I could dig through many many threads here and find the same thing over and over. How is that fair to any and all of the non true Conservative soldiers who may have served and even died for their Country? Did they hate America and want to destroy it? I really doubt it.

Can’t find the time and not your job to address or slow down that extreme hate stuff here? That is the exact same behavior that that is deplored from the extreme Libs, who by the way are guilty of it as well, and by your inactions you are just like them, some of you and the Libs who have extreme hate are the same in that regard. Not every person who voted for Obama pulled a straight ticket, believes in the radical extreme from either side, or has no capacity to know right from wrong or change their mind and vote differently next time. You call me an **shole, I don’t take it personal, it just shows that you are OK with gutter low tactics just like those from the Libs you hate so much, and that the Jr. High excuse of “they are just as bad or worse” and “they did it too” is good enough reason to tolerate the Hitler, child molesting, Jew Killing, Monkey ear trash that you allow to be repesentative of the blog here. As long as it promotes your own version of the same Bush is Hitler crap used before and hated by you, then it is just fine. They did it too. Your sensitivity is only engaged when an anti Conservative sentiment is posted.

Aye said: “Heck, you even went so far as to include ChrisG who is now deceased. How classy of you.”

My condolences on the loss of ChrisG, and I am sorry I put his name on the list.

and, how classy of you to allow the over the line comments and hate, Nazi, jew killin’ monkey ear crap be a representation of his name, (unless you knew him well enough that he would have been cool with that…..)

@mooseburger: The very name you use to comment is in bad taste and yet you persist.

How would you like it if someone on our side persisted in using a comment name which was so clearly derogatory of Obama?

Heck, if we used anything like that we’d probably be arrested by the Secret Service.

Again, you people poisoned the well of polite political discourse during the Bush years and now complain about the taste of the water.

Get over it. You reap what you sow.

@mooseburger:

You really aren’t too terribly bright are you?

Your first two diatribes were solely focused on the actions of President Bush on the morning of 9/11 criticizing him for this, that, and the other thing.

What you didn’t take the time to consider, however, is that his actions that morning were being directed and driven by the Secret Service. I took the time to type all of that out for you very slowly and in great detail so you wouldn’t be confused.

You’ll notice that while disassembling your argument I didn’t defend President Bush. I didn’t need to do that because, ultimately, the Secret Service was your target. I guess you weren’t astute enough to even realize where you were aiming your arrows.

Then, when it became apparent to you that your tactic had blown up in your face, that’s when you started whining about other comments on this site which you deem offensive or inappropriate.

The same comments mind you that you had multiple opportunities to speak up about but yet, for whatever reason, you didn’t.

You also didn’t click on any of the e-mail links which abound on these pages in order to send a note to Curt, or any one of the rest of us, to alert us to what was going on. You know that comments here are not moderated and common sense and basic logic should inform you that we’re not on these pages every minute of the day and night reading every comment that is posted.

Like I said earlier though, the reality is that those comments had nothing whatsoever to do with what you had to say. Your later complaints about them, after you failed to confront the person who posted them as well as not bringing them to someone’s attention ring empty and hollow.

Your efforts remind me a lot of the deathbed remorse we saw from Uncle Teddy last week. Too late and completely unconvincing.

In your latest steaming pile of dog squeeze you accuse us of excusing comments here under the reasoning that we just endured eight years of much worse even though the reality is something entirely different.

What’s striking however is that in the same post you gripe about the words of someone else you admit that you’re engaging in what you see as comparable behavior because someone else did it first.

How hypocritical can you get?

I called you an asshole because you attacked and maligned the Secret Service and demeaned their efforts while diminishing the events of 9/11 in order to score points.

The term fits.

Mike: why is mooseburger derogatory? because I am not a Conservative? I think you are more offended by my views than by my username here. Would you prefer Squirrelburger? If you really, truly find that name offensive Mike, I will strongly consider using another handle here.

Lee Atwater really started the modern “peel the bark off the basta*d” movement, other than when Nixon sent those burglars into the Dem headquarters..Limbaugh had his America held hostage during the Clinton years, and yep, the Libs went Apesh** during Bush. The well is indeed bitter. It’s been going on a long time. Calling the President a Nazi or Hitler is wrong, wrong, wrong, no matter who does it, Right or Left wingers.

Aye: you speak of respect for the Secret Service while you condone the Nazi crap about the President. Or at least it seems like your going along with it….correct me if I’m wrong here.

My bringing up Bush in that school was sarcasm and not meant to be defended, and in fact, if I were posting the same or worse against Liberals and Obama, I doubt you would have had a problem with it at all. It is hard to take some of the things said here seriously sometimes. It seems like psyco Obama derangement syndrome, just like Bush DS, maybe up a notch or so and getting more mainstream. I can see how you could draw the distinction about the Secret Service, but that was not my intent. I just don’t believe that the President is trying to brainwash those kids by talking to them about doing well in school. The White House laid out the agenda imperfectly, and reeled it back some, and I am glad they did. I chose sarcasm because, #1 it is in my nature, and not one of my better characteristics, and 2# once Nazi and Hitler become part of the dialogue rational discussion is pretty much history at that point. The Hitler stuff came up way before I even found this posting and responded with my comments.

And Aye, if you recall I have spoken up in the past about some comments, but I didn’t realize that if I am offended or find comments inappropriate, it was a duty of mine to bring it up everytime. I can only figure that perhaps YOU don’t find them inappropriate, or feel a need to respond to them. Probably because anti Conservative comments jump out and offend you, whereas perhaps Nazi Jewhater Monkeyears Childmolester doesn’t bother you much as long as it’s directed at those whom you oppose. In other words:

Liberals spouting Liberal stuff here–folks repond swiftly, strongly, and even throw some cool words like stupid, UnAmerican, Nazi, Ect for good measure. It is cool and accepted practice to personally demean those who believe something different than we do here.

Conservatives spouting Nazi comparing, Jew hater, child molester Monkey ear stuff here:
Folks respond with the old Winky, Winky, I didn’t notice that since the comments are unmoderated…..and even when they are brought to your attention, it is still someone else’s fault or responsibility for them not following through on the issue. It’s been brought to your attention, and it does appear you have a much higher tolerance for Nazi monkeyear comparisons than I initially gave you credit for, or than would appear reasonable.

@mooseburger, big mac, bkburger, or whatever…
so many words so little time…Can you say all of that again?

Your logic is so moronic — you must have made a mistake — too many fries on the brain? Even the neighbor’s home schoolers blew your posts apart with a laugh — go talk to Czar Johnson….you MAY make sense to him???? But hurry….

I pledge God, small Government, and the 2nd amendment…. I do believe in Peace when I have the bigger gun. Can you say “Revolution?” My kids will be “sick” the morning of the event.

@ Mooseburger.

I often disagree with people on both sides who post on this board. I quite often point out that I don’t trust either party. Democrats or Republicans. Nor am I wild about Libertarians who tend to be even more “Pro-Corporate” than most Republicans. Hell, I don’t like politicians in general. I don’t mind at all pointing out instances where both “major” parties have been guilty of the same or similar behavior. There is a lot that I disagree with Republicans, but the major posters and authors here in FA don’t slap me down as being a “___ing liberal commie!” (and worse, which I assure you I have had thrown at me Republican sites.) I think it is at least partially because I try to provide facts that prove and support my statements, rather than relying on propaganda and talking points. If you want to argue with people on this board, I’d advise you stop using the tactics used on the Huffington Post and KOS, and bring in good facts to back your side of the argument. (HINT: biased propaganda is not fact.) If you think they are wrong, or even if you think that a Republican is spouting propaganda, lies etc… use truth and fact to prove them wrong.

I detest Nancy Pelosi, Chris Dodd, Barny Frank, Chuck Shumer, Barbara Boxer, Waxman, that pompous ass Al Gore and that idiot Conyers. I used to think Harry Reid was “maybe ok” but no longer.

On the other hand, I detested David Duke, Bob Dole and former AG Gonzales. I didn’t like Cheney, Bob Dole, Rush Limbaugh, George Bush Jr or Sr. I enjoyed McCain as a person, but he was a poor choice to nominate. I didn’t like Arlen Specter before, and like him less now. I thought Gerald Ford was just about as clueless as Jimmy Carter.

While I didn’t agree with everything they said, I actually enjoyed listening to Ron Paul, Ross Perot, and while I think that they could be a little bit nutty sounding at times, they all often make very good points. I feel about the same about FOX New’s Glenn Beck.

I make no bones about the fact that I don’t like Obama. I think he is a self-serving fraud. An ideological charlatan who has been foisted on us by a propaganda machine of bunch of blind fools who are blissfully unaware they are being had. I happen to agree that his agenda and that of those of similar mind is a radical one to transform this country into yet another form of socialism. I was disgusted by the cowardly smear campaign on Sara Palin, and admired her fortitude and forthrightness as the MSM collective dropped all pretense of objectivity to destroy her. In fact, the more they did it, the more I liked her. The MSM has shown their true face and liberal bias, and that I consider the most welcome change that the Obama Campaign has had on society. The masks have come off.

Now buck-up and argue like a serious debater instead of some partisan wonk on Crossfire.

end slavery by abolishing the IRS, stop being a 60 percent slave to the government.

If this does not scare all of you nothing will…I am boycotting, especially Demi and Ashton who PLEDGE TO OBAMA directly, never to see another flick they make…They have theirs, and ours is being taken away…taking my kids out of school when and if this is presented…WE ARE AMERICANS AND OUR ALLEGIANCE IS TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA….NOT this man who is pushing socialism, socialized medicine down our throats, private militia…WE WILL BE LIKE CUBA….oh so wonderful….Ever talk to someone who has lived there….They stole their jewelry, took their property, etc…and all of Obama’s friends are from Venezuela, chavez, oh those wonderful Castro boys, and THIS CREEP BAD MOUTHS THE U.S OVERSEAS? He also was not up to the job of entertaining the Prime Minister of Ireland…”too tired…this is a tough job”….HE IS A DISGRACE AND NEEDS TO RESIGN, OR GET IMPEACHED…HE HAS BROUGHT THE COUNTRY TO IT’S KNEES IN JUST A FEW MONTHS…IMAGINE A FEW MORE YEARS? ANYONE OUT THERE PAYING ATTENTION…i SURE AM….planning on moving …And you all thought Bush was bad? Had no more attacks on the U.S. after 9/11….with this guy, he is decreasing the military and increasing BAILOUTS TO AIG…LET EM GO BANKRUPT LIKE THE REST OF US WHO CAN’T MAKE IT…..THESE GUYS GET BONUSES OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS? IS THIS INSANE…Oh, car dealers are not giving titles to the people who got the CAsh for Clunkers, another great program, because the feds, have no given the car dealers the $4500 so people cannot register the cars!!! What a guy…EVERYTHING HE TOUCHES TURNS TO DOO DOO….HE HAS TO GO….We own part of GM, AIG, chrysler motors…NOT ALLOWED IN CONSTIution….GUESS THE BAMA NEVER READ IT….HOW MANY TRILLION IN DEFICIT AND CLIMBING DAILY….AND YOU GUYS LIKE THIS FREAK? FINISH AND WIN THE WAR IN IRAQ/AFGHANISTAN…JUST NUKE EM AND GET IT OVER WITH…DON’T PUT SOLDIERS IN HARMS WAY…FOR GOD SAKE!

@Maureen Sloan: I hear you Maureen. Just remember, we have at least three and a half more years of this stuff to endure (I hope conservatives who sat out 2006 and 2008 have learned their lesson).

Keep some of your powder dry so you don’t get burnt out on it all. Obama is pushing A LOT of our buttons on purpose hoping to drive us to despair.

We can’t let this poseur president win.

I absolutely will not make a Pledge to the “baCZAR” Obama.

Perhaps Our real God is trying to get our attention in all of this. As a nation we have turned away from the one and true God of the Bible.
The God of Heaven and Earth is the ONLY God we need to worship and obey
I pledge to to do just that

I read the transcript of the speech President Obama is scheduled to deliver to the nation’s school children tomorrow. I must say I was impressed. It is remarkably apolitical to my mind. Still, I can’t help but wonder what the original drafts may have contained…but, ah well…
I wonder too at the impotence of the dems–they have a theoretical lock on votes the repubs have never known, but they are finding they must still bend to pressure from what is supposedly a weak minority! Publishing the speech in advance (something that likely wasn’t planned until the furor over possible political content arose), the resignation of Van Jones (glory! hallelujah!), the apparent stagnation of the health reform legislation proposed by libs, all show that a vibrant vocal involved populus is exactly what is necessary to keep democratic discourse alive. Looking forward to 2010! Republicans and Independents: it is time to figure out what we’re about philosophically and individually and to communicate those ideals clearly.

It’s not the MESSAGE, it’s the messenger. With what is known to be fact about Obama, his sinister lies and obfuscation of the issues, his socialistic plans, and the company that he entertains; Obama is NOT the role-model for any but the foolish and cynical.

From the President of the United States:

Write me a letter — and I’m serious about this one — write me a letter about ways you can help us achieve our goals. I think you know the address.

President George H.W. Bush
October 1, 1991
http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?id=3450&year=1991&month=10

Former First Lady Laura Bush:

“I think there is a place for the president … to talk to schoolchildren and encourage” them, she said. Parents should follow his example and “encourage their own children to stay in school and to study hard and to try to achieve the dream that they have.”

Bush indicated that she didn’t think it was fair for Obama to be labeled a “socialist” by critics and expressed her disappointment with the intensely polarized nature of contemporary American politics.

September 7, 2009
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/07/laura.bush/

Who was the last person to call someone an a##&ole?
Van (not the Man) Jones

@JohnMcClane: Do you not understand the difference between an invitation to schoolchildren to write letters to their elected officials and a requirement that students write letters on how they can help a particular leader (OBAMA)?

Enough with these phony comparisons. They are about as transparent as your comment name.

Oh, and since you cited Laura Bush, does this mean you are now more likely to vote Republican in 2010 and 2012?

Yeah… sure!

After our Dear Leader’s spending and nationalization spree it’s obvious that our former Dear Leader, “W”, was wrong about 44 not being a Socialist.

It was rather ridiculous denying that Obama is a Socialist in the first place. Gordon Brown is a Socialist, but that is not a handicap in the UK. So “W” gave way too nice of a favor for Mr. Spread The Wealth Around.

Dont cut any slack for liars like Obama, Dodd, Murtha, Jackson Jr, Frank, Waters, Reid, Pelosi, etc… And these lowlife parasites live off of our taxpayer money? Holy Cow!!!!!!!!!!!! Don’t be afraid, show your dissent!

Dear Mike,

See

No Moral Equivalence Between Reagan and Bush Address to School Children and Obama Indoctrination

Dear “John McClane” I wrote the post you reference. Again, do you not grasp the difference between inviting students to write you a letter and instructions from teachers requiring you to do so? Did President Bush require students to be held “accountable” for the content of their letters?

Or should I have Sarah Planin explain it to you?

Or should I have Sarah Planin explain it to you?

Yeah, have Sarah Planin explain it to me!
You betcha!
Maybe she’ll do a better job of explain these “orders” and “requirements”

John, you don’t appear to be smart enough to understand.

And for you leftists, proof of what flaming hypocrites you are.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/When-Bush-spoke-to-students-Democrats-investigated-held-hearings-57694347.html

Proof of what hypocrites some Conservatives are:

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-duvall10-2009sep10,0,2300584.story

The Capitol Resource Institute, a conservative, self-described “pro-family” advocacy organization that had given Duvall a “100%” score for his voting record on issues of concern to the group, denounced the lawmaker in a statement today. .

“It is always disappointing when a champion of traditional values does not practice the same in his private life,” said Karen England, executive director of CRI. “And this appears to be the case with Assemblyman Duvall.”

Well, at least the Capitol Resource Institute still considers him a “champion of traditional values”

So, when your calling out hypocrites, (not to mention other “champions” like Sanford, Ensign, ect.) just remember that some of the best world class hypocrites reside in both parties, and hardly have an ideological stranglehold on either party.

Obama won and the Democrats have the majority in both Houses. Obama ran on a platform and he is going to try to achieve it. Conservatives can accept the reality that they lost the election and both Houses, work hard to constructively promote their agenda while mitigating the Democrats agenda, using facts and logic, or not. They can continue to throw their tantrums, call names, and toss out their Nazi Socialist accusations and death panel threats. We are clear on what Conservatives are against (anything from Obama), but not so sure what they are for except for being “born again” anti deficit converts, after Dick “deficits don’t matter” Cheney and Companys preached the exact opposite in the last administration. They are in the minority now because of the judgment of the American people and that is the boat they find themselves in after 8 years of “leadership” and 6 years with total control of the whole shebang. The deficit and the economy were out of control before the Nov 2008 election even got here, back then, it was argued that it had little short term effect on the economy and was a vindications of Reagan’s record regarding the deficit.

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_52/b3914021_mz007.htm

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/245esggv.asp

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A26402-2004Jun8?language=printer

Now, the Conservatives have had their “come to Jesus” deficit epiphany, by the hand of the American Voters.

The people have voted and spoken, and with or without constructive input from the Republicans and some Blue Dog Dems, change has been demanded by the American voters, elections were held, the peoples will was made clear and change will happen. We voted for it and we demand it. If Conservatives don’t want to be involved in the solutions, fine, it will be shoved down their throats by default. This is what the Nov 2008 election was all about.

I noticed that Mike has yet to provide evidence of the orders given to “require” students to write Obama and tell them how they will support him.
Did Reagan take responsibility for the fools he put in at the Education Department who went around talking about “Martin Lucifer Coon?

It seems Mike’s office at the EPA was where they dumped all the toxins and dioxins and other pollutants. How else can one explain such rabid stupidity?

It’s quite clear, to paraphrase one of my favorite historical characters, that Mike knows as much about the truth as he does about f*&^ing.

Atleast Cindy Sheehan has an explanation for her insanity.
Her son died in a war of dubious causes and his mission was mocked by his commander in chief.
As Walt Kowalski would say, well Glory F*7^ing Hallelujah.

Your rabid stupidity can be explained by inbreeding and drug abuse JM.
You trolls will not succeed in silencing the people on this site or disrupting it, so go back to puffho, DUNG, or romp with you fellow koslims.

John McClaine: Your comment is pointless and a waste of time.

Just like Mooseburgers.

You guys need to grow up.

Moose, the one with issues accepting things is you and your kind. You can’t accept that obama and the dems are self destructing. You want to blame us. In your mind if we just bent over and played dead everything would be fine. It wouldn’t improve things any, but you foaming at the mouth leftist loons were never big on facing reality. The left attacked over anything and everything and destroyed civil debate. Now that we are going after legitimate issues with a fervor not seen in a long time while giving you a tatse of your own medicine you want to whine and cry about it. Guess what? It’s not going to stop and the suddenly increased attacks of your fellow vermin only tells us we are on the right track.
You are such an **shole and it only gets worse the more you post. You accuse the Reps of hurling insults and hate when it’s you and your kind that has been guilty of doing so to the point of openly wishing for Bush’s murder for 8 years.
You have been utterly embarrassed when you tried to debate more knowledgeable people here about healthcare, but claim they aren’t using facts. As usual you group think types just vomit what you’ve been told to say by your leaders. Your kind does it all in the name of gaining power and dominance at the expense and lives of others.
As for the National Socialist label, it fits you and that is why it is getting used. Like the American left, they too believed in eugenics and deciding what rights citizens should or should not have in addition to taking control of large swaths of industry. Whine all you want, you’ve exposed yourself as a scumbag.

Hard Right: I love you too man.
Truth is, Dems are in power and Conservatives not. The American people decided that. They rejected Bush, McCain and Palin and your tactics as well. Cry and call folks **shole and scumbag all you like, it will not change reality. I’m glad to support your right to be uncivil if that’s your choice. The uncivil children in the room rarely keep the adults from doing what needs done. It will get done, because the people voted for Obama based on what he promised to do. And they expect it to get done, if that means by cooperation and agreement with the loyal opposition, or if that means shoving it down their throats.

As for Limp Rights accusation: “You are such an **shole and it only gets worse the more you post. You accuse the Reps of hurling insults and hate when it’s you and your kind that has been guilty of doing so to the point of openly wishing for Bush’s murder for 8 years.”

I have never said, advocated, thought, wished or hoped for such a thing as the Murder of Bush. Your way off based, and you should not accuse me of such a serious crime without proof….of which you have none in regard to me. Show anywhere where I even hinted at such a thing….ever…I won’t ask for an apology, because I know you have little capacity to even understand half of the crap and baseless accusations you throw out towards others in your outpouring of emotion while defending your views, and this is the method by which you hope to advance your Conservative agenda. And I hope you and the rest of the Conservatives keep it up. It works well for you and those like you, but it just shows the rest of the country why we rejected that type of tactic last election. Like Rep. Joe Wilson’s yelling out “Lie” during Obama’s speech:

http://www.politico.com/politico44/

Rep. Joe Wilson’s outburst – the South Carolina Republican shouted “lie” after Obama claimed his reform plans would not fund health care for illegal immigrants – was “totally disrespectful,” McCain told CNN’s Larry King.

Keep that up my friend, the whole country needs so see that type of statesmanship and solutions the Conservative bring to the table. Like a young child throwing a tantrum because he didn’t win and is unhappy, so are you being perceived by the nation, and if you think that helps your cause, pour it on Limpy.

So Mike can’t provide the proof of the orders and requirements.

Yeah, evidence is pointless, Eye patch Mike.

1. I don’t take anyone with a comment name like “John McClane” seriously. So you’ll understand why I don’t want to waste my time responding to you.

2. The lesson plans distributed by the Dept. of Education clearly state that students should write letters on how they can help Obama and then be held “accountable” for them.

You want to call that something other than an order or requirement that’s fine by me.

The fact is, these instructions are blatantly political.

Now go bother someone else. The adults are busy tonight!

Moosebrain, you are an *sshole AND a raging hypocrite. You DELIBERATELY ignore how the dems acted for 8 years so you can bash Conservatives when they so much as utter a peep you don’t approve of.
Let’s not forget how they attacked the average Joe for protesting and asking them hard questions at town hall meetings. Who is uncivil?
Again, the ONLY ones keeping the dems from getting anything done is the DEMS! Being a leftist like you means never having to deal with reality. When you lose in 2010 and 2012 you’ll probably blame “the right wing noise machine”…again. So spare me your tantrum about how you’re going to ram it down our throats. Your side is still trying to find it’s ass.

As for what the people voted for, they are truly learning what that is now. That’s why the obomination’s approval ratings are soooo low. Keep pretending massive govt. intrusion/taxes/destruction of the economy/country is what they wanted. You are going to learn the hard way that if the “health reform” bill goes thru, the dems that voted for it will be out of a job. In fact, it will likely serve to innoculate the public from voting dem for 10-20 years. So please keep believing people want what leftist vermin like you push and continue to push it.

Lastly, I talk civily with those that deserve it or those that are not bigotted leftists pretending to be something else. You do not deserve it, and are clearly a moonbat. When confronted with facts that prove you wrong you ignore them, switch subjects, move the goal posts, use straw men, try moral equivalence, or just become a flaming *sshole. I understand that talking to mooonbats such as yourself is like talking to the homeless guy chatting up a brick wall. Liberalism is definitely a mental illness and you, Joe, JM, and ken prove it.
I’m done with ya.

2. The lesson plans distributed by the Dept. of Education clearly state that students should write letters on how they can help Obama and then be held “accountable” for them.

To who?
No one of course.

You want to call that something other than an order or requirement that’s fine by me.

As John McLaughlin would say
“I’m right, you’re wrong. Issue 2”.

Eye patch Mike.

Mike’s America
Like Mickey’s America
Only Goofier.

“When confronted with facts that prove you wrong you ignore them, switch subjects, move the goal posts, use straw men, try moral equivalence, or just become a flaming *sshole. “

I couldn’t have said it better! But he’s only doing what his master Obama has shown him how to do…. Mossy is just a pawn in the Dems cynical game.

>John “McLame” you have simply confirmed, not that it was necessary, that any time spent responding to you is a waste of time.

Clearly, you don’t really give a hoot how Obama misuses the Dept. of Education, or what instructions they give to teachers and ultimately to students.

Obviously, you are not a serious person with whom one could hope to have a useful exchange of ideas…

Now, perhaps you need to find some other blog post to haunt as further comments by you on this post will be deleted. I’ve wasted enough time on fools for today.

Hard Right said: “Moosebrain, you are an *sshole AND a raging hypocrite. You DELIBERATELY ignore how the dems acted for 8 years so you can bash Conservatives when they so much as utter a peep you don’t approve of.
Let’s not forget how they attacked the average Joe for protesting and asking them hard questions at town hall meetings. Who is uncivil?
“Lastly, I talk civily with those that deserve it or those that are not bigotted leftists pretending to be something else.”

Point taken, so……but I have actually quit bashing Republicans and have started encouraging them to speak out, yell, Socialist, Marxist, liar, and any and all uneducated bad manners angry mob tactics they prefer. Like a one trick Pony, America is gettin’ tired of the same old show, and while those tactics get attention in the short term, you will lose respect in the long term, and it’s probably not helping you to advance your Conservative agenda. Even Joe Wilson tried to call Obama and grovel for forgiveness probably under pressure from fellow Republicans aware of the public perception of the Conservatives reaction to this event.

And I see you have not come up with ANY comment EVER where I said, implied, wished for Bush to be murdered. You can toss around and blame the Dems and their attacks for the last 8 years, yet accuse someone else of much worse, a Federal crime, and feel mighty good about that. Then say “I’m done with ya” because you can’t defend your BS all while you throw out more insults. That’s about the only effective tactic you got in your bag that you can sustain, because your credibility regarding your accusation is now zero since you can’t prove your utterly stupid accusation of what could be a Federal crime. But that’s OK because I hope you guys keep that behavior up and encourage your Conservative Representatives to do likewise. The nuttier your guys get, the more we like it and the longer it stays in the news cycle.

I pledge to never be a part of Obama’s schemes…. He is not the one everyone thinks he is, he tells everyone what they want to hear, watch and see one day when we all have woke up, this world will be gone straight to hell! It was on the path before but what I am talking about will hit all at once. He wants to cut military why? he wants to take guns away why? he wants people to bow down to him! I do not bow to no one, my children will never bow down to know one. He wants to take Fox off the air because they tell the truth about him, he wants all christian radio stations off the air… what is wrong with this picture? JFK was nothing like this and ended up in the grave yard what is the problem with todays society. We as Americans must stand up for what we believe , President or no President he is getting the U.S. in more trouble and wants to be seen as a God in my book, there is only one God and it sure isnt Obama.

@ mooseburger
I usually try to stick to the facts and argue the points. But dude, get off your high horse. First, the dems heckled and booed Bush during the 2005 State of the Union Address. While I agree to a point that calling the president out while he’s giving a speech to a joint session of congress may not be in good taste, who else is going to do it? The MSM? They are in bed with the man, lock, stock and barrell and all you have to do is look at Van Jones to know that.
You want to call out Joe Wilson? Fine. You gonna call out Charlie Rangle? How ’bout Tim Geitner? John Murtha? William Jefferson maybe? How about Loretta and Linda Sanchez?

Obama stood in the well of the People’s House and lied repeatedly last night. Who is going to call him out on that? He won’t debate. He said the time for debate is over. And I don’t have to point out all of his lies, he did it for me. Every time he said, “my plan” he lied. He has no plan. He didn’t deliver one to congress. The plan won’t cover illegal aliens? Then why did the democrats defeat an amendment that required verified identification? There were no death panels? Why did the dems pull the end of life counseling? The plan is budget neutral? Why did the CBO laugh at that?

You have no room, at all, to talk.