Obama’s Dr. Mengele Admits Health Care “Reform” Will Kill Old People Sooner

““D” after your name on the voter registation roles, what do you bet your chances of receiving care will be?”

Or if there is an R after your name, what do you bet your chances of having your medical history leaked during a campaign will be?

The Joe The Plumber experience taught us what can happen when you have partisans in positions to peruse records and if the government will, under this plan, get access to everyone’s medical AND financial records, the risk is just too great for abuse.

I can see it now … “Candidate saw psychiatrist 20 years ago, had STD when in college!”.

@ PB
Health Affairs
The article cited is about halfway down the page.

@ICanCopyAndPasteToo:

“A less obvious example is guaranteeing neuropsychological services to ensure children with learning disabilities can read and learn to reason.“

Since the Left already can’t reason, it’ll be hard to sell them on the need for that in any case.

Let’s see. Withholding medical care to those who would be considered squandering it….

1. It could backfire and cut medical care to the gay community. After all, we can greatly stop the spread of AIDS in the USA if the gays had self control. Why cure AIDS if it can be minimized or practically eliminated by self control? Imagine the money saved!

2. Next stop would the black community. If you are caught doing something wrong, convicted, and put in prison… under this plan you would just rot while you are there. Especially if you are on death row.

3. If you are on welfare, and HAVE BEEN for a long time (lazy you!), then your health care should be cut too, because you are not contributing to the common good either — you are just a taker.

4. If you are an alcoholic/drug user/etc. then you would be denied help too. Because let’s face it, you’ll be wasting all that precious medical knowledge that was applied to your body only to drink another beer, or take another hit on dope.

So ironically, this whole process will benefit the middle class ‘average joe’ folk who have to work for a living. Now that’s a change.

… services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia.

A less obvious example is guaranteeing neuropsychological services to ensure children with learning disabilities can read and learn to reason.

I have to admit that after reading those two paragraphs in the linked reports, I feel physically ill.

If we, as a society, get to the point where it is considered acceptable or normal to pick and choose who will receive or not receive health care based on economics or the patients’ ability to be a productive, participating citizen that will be the day that our society has doomed itself.

Unfortunately, we have already opened the door by allowing the unborn to be targeted in this way.

In a recent interview Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg said “at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”

So, if a child is not aborted, Emanuel says that it’s OK to not guarantee medial care to that child.

If a person’s burden on society becomes heavier than their contribution to society, then it’s OK to not guarantee medical care.

So far, only the young and the elderly have been singled out. How soon before those ideas spread to the point that they affect a wider range?

This smells of eugenics. This smells of the heinous, unspeakable acts of prior despots.

Ladies and gentlemen I simply have to call this by its’ name: EVIL.

There really is just no other word to describe it, and I find it chilling.

@Aye Chihuahua:

Ladies and gentlemen I simply have to call this by its’ name: EVIL.

Yes, that’s what it is, all right.

So, Bader-Ginsberg really admitted it was a form of extermination of unwanted humans? I don’t quite follow what seems to be her “reasoning.” She seems to know what she’s talking about, but what comes across to me are more feelings than thoughts, and I’m not comfortable with that because they are so vague. I don’t think that’s a good quality in a judge, to put feelings above reason.

Are Hitler’s gas chambers still operatonal? The “Big O” might save even more money by renting them instead of having to build new ones later in his “presidential career”.

The proponents of this “healthcare” plan are sick, power-starved wackos. At least some dialog has begun. Obama might settle for having a raffle to see who “wins” health care. What a bunch of egotistical, cold-hearted jerkoffs. If this doesn’t wake the almost normal Democrats up, what in the world would it take?

Non-caring Republicans? The conservatives now look like Mother Teresa by comparison!

I’ve got an idea!

Instead of being afraid of what “may” happen and throwing around childish terms like Fascism, Nazi’s and Hitler, why don’t we all see what the official health reform BILL turns out to be and “IF” it gets voted in?

Hmmm. Using your heads? Getting the facts when the Bill’s presented….sounds reasonable to me!

I don’t have time for fear-mongering. Please leave the bible speak in church. If the boogie men are coming to get us, I’ll be right there standing with ya’ll, but until I hear FACTS, and P don’t give a rats a$$ about what someone who’s a BROTHER of someone in the White House thinks.

Emmanuel doesn’t WRITE, PRESENT, DICTATE, OR HAVE ANY SAY about the LAWS of this great country or how they get enforced and what does or doesn’t get passed…If I remember right the President doesn’t create laws either, that’s what’s great about our form of government!

The fact is our health care system is TERRIBLE. It’s about time something is done it’s only been sixty years (1947) since this problem was brought up!

I’m going to read the BILL when it’s presented, then I’ll make a decision and then contact my representative.

God I love this country!

Hard Right: You mean likely portions of which ? HR 767, HR3200, The Senates?..the Houses?…I don’t want bad health care any more than you do I haven’t seen anything move forward yet. What would “likely appear” out of the three I know about, I think that’s anyones guess right now.” There’s a lot that could STILL likely appear, I may not be an but “OBAMABNUT ?” but I’m not interested in getting excited about ANYTHING Emanuel says.

I will get excited if any of these referendums don’t get costs down so small businesses can compete in the marketplace and people starting businesses can afford healthcare and offer it to their employees.

I heard some claim there would even be a Death board?, please give me a break…that kind of dialog really helps.

(The name calling always helps too!)

Bless you Hard Right..I’m keeping an eye on Congress too …we’ll git ‘er done…for both our sakes I hope!

Wait until the “final bill” comes out to start fighting it?

You mean the way Cap and Tax came out in it’s mega-page and last-minute hundreds of pages added form just a couple hours before the vote and was pushed through the vote? The dems, without republicans, have the numbers to pass this death penalty (and it IS just that for the people of this nation and our economy, not to mention to healthcare professionals).

The people crafting this “healthcare” plan for this country have one goal in mind … controlling from womb to grave who gets what care if any. If you haven’t concluded that from just what you may have read of the bill, if you’ve read anything, then you’re either blind to reading between the lines, or agree with the damn thing and the people who would be health dictators in this country.

The government has no right or business in our healthcare system. It’s NOT “broke” … it’s a sloppy mess because Medicare/Medicaid are “broke” and doctors have to go bankrupt to pay for malpractice insurance against bullshit law suits, and the “evil” insurance companies have chains around them that do not allow a more open market for competition.

They can deny it all they want but they are looking to force us into GB’s and Canada’s socialized healthcare system as a model.

Seems certain people pushing for that crap in our country are deaf to people already in those systems warning us DON’T DO IT!!!

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The pro-abortion left in this country always likes to point out “back allies” …

You ain’t seen nothing until ObamaCare screws-up our healthcare and doctors/surgeons/nurses open a black market in this country to treat people with what they are being denied.

THEN our healthcare system WILL be BROKEN.

But nothing to see here … just move along. They’ll give you a ring when the final solution … I mean bill is ready for you to read in 60 seconds before they railroad it through and force it down your throat.

Sitting back and waiting for decades is what has gotten us to this crap tsunami with our government … time to sink or swim your ass off …

Just think of it as a “first trimester” abortion of this highly defective bill.

BTW, those of us with “special needs” children/family members and elderly family have had their “spider senses” highly alerted with this obamanation of a “healthcare” bill … it IS rife with coldhearted death …

If you ain’t worried just move out of the way and let the “mob” do the dirty work for you.

Another example of Republicans not having any constructive additions to the health care argument and attempting to pander to their base. I understand why they cannot unequivocally deny these spurious claims – It all boils down to the retention of power. Republicans are intimately aware that in order to retain their political positions, they must not alienate their base. But holding onto that base by not speaking out against the overt and covert racist antics directed toward our President, forecloses Republicans from expanding their support beyond their dwindling base. Moderate white Independents (like myself) and moderate Republicans are not going to vote for politicians that conveniently allow these volatile shenanigans to continue. One would have thought that the failed McCain/Palin attempt at this in 2008, would provide Republicans with insight- but it has not. In order to win a nationwide election or debate on any issue, the winner must have the support of Independents and moderates. In 2012, Republicans will again lose the Independent vote and ultimately the election.

As an aside, it is apparent that some of these baseless assertions are racially motivated. I cannot understand what causes people to have such racial animus because the concept of race is not biological, but cultural. Racist do not seem to fathom that all humanity is descended from Africa, therefore, unless you are from another planet, every human is simply a different shade of black.

Aye Chihuahua:
Another example of a misled rightwing wacko, from the loonies led by Linmbaugh, passing through with false slurs including, but not limited to accusations of marxism, nazisim, socialism and senseless bigotry, just to see what will stick. Good for laughs, but worth little else. The REAL facts show how wrong you are. Better ask Rush for better material.

I see obama has emptied out the insane asylums and sent his zombie hordes to do his bidding.

The left’s matra seems to be: It’s NOT propaganda when we say it!

We’ll get big savings by cutting 500 billion from Medicare…

First, we get the direct savings of 500 billion and then we get the added benefit of drastically reducing the number of seniors that are currently receiving social security benefits. Obama and crew can “kill” two birds with one stone! Reduce Medicare costs and Social Security Costs. They should petition the OMB to include these additional cost savings in their assessment of Universal Bad Health Care Reform.

In addition we’ll get the added benefit of eliminating a great number of individuals that missed out on the “socialism is great”, “capitalism is bad”, education that our current crop of youth have had the benefit of receiving at the hands of the NEA and uber liberal college professors.